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Andy,

I agree with in that the US S & C is interesting. Sometimes finding a job

is more about who you know than what you know - that at least had been my

experience. As someone who doesn't network very well, it took me some time to

break into the field.

Casey Gallagher CSCS

Snohomish, WA USA

what is the best route into S & C

> in the US? What qualification do you believe will open the most doors?

> What qualification do you believe is actually worthwhile from a

> developmental view point.

> -----

>

> Andy,

>

> In my opinion you now have the gold standard right there in your back yard:

the UKSCA's Accredited S & C Coach program.

> www.uksca.org.uk

>

> The Center of Excellence for Sport Science & Coach Education @ East Tennessee

State University, directed by Meg Stone, hosts the exam each year at its annual

Coaches & Sports Science College.

> www.sportscienceed.com

> The event has quickly gained recognition. The credential should continue to do

so as well. The folks who develop and administer it are doing things right.

>

> Having said all that - S & C here in the USA is an interesting scene. There are

some very good coaches and programs, but the noise is out of control. That's not

making it easy to find a best route for finding jobs.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Shelton CT

> www.excelsiorsports.com

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

>

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Andy,

I agree with in that the US S & C is interesting. Sometimes finding a job

is more about who you know than what you know - that at least had been my

experience. As someone who doesn't network very well, it took me some time to

break into the field.

Casey Gallagher CSCS

Snohomish, WA USA

what is the best route into S & C

> in the US? What qualification do you believe will open the most doors?

> What qualification do you believe is actually worthwhile from a

> developmental view point.

> -----

>

> Andy,

>

> In my opinion you now have the gold standard right there in your back yard:

the UKSCA's Accredited S & C Coach program.

> www.uksca.org.uk

>

> The Center of Excellence for Sport Science & Coach Education @ East Tennessee

State University, directed by Meg Stone, hosts the exam each year at its annual

Coaches & Sports Science College.

> www.sportscienceed.com

> The event has quickly gained recognition. The credential should continue to do

so as well. The folks who develop and administer it are doing things right.

>

> Having said all that - S & C here in the USA is an interesting scene. There are

some very good coaches and programs, but the noise is out of control. That's not

making it easy to find a best route for finding jobs.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Shelton CT

> www.excelsiorsports.com

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

>

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Casey and

Thanks for your input,

Things probably aren't that different over here in terms of networking and

getting a foot up. It's certainly is how I got set up in professional sport in

the UK. I like to think that you get a job through who you know but you keep it

through what you know. Networking is a reason in and of its self to be a member

of a governing body.

, I agree about the UKSCA although the bigger it gets the more politics

comes in. Any accreditation is a little limited in scope to some degree but when

you see some of the conference topics/speakers from last week you can see they

are forward thinking. Do you know if it is in any way recognised over in the US?

I know both Meg and Mike Stone a little as well from their time in Edinburgh so

I will check out that web site, it looks interesting.

Interestingly many of my colleagues in England are very dismissive of the UKSCA

whereas in Scotland it seems to be more mandatory. I suppose the problem I have

with it is that I know where I'm strong and where I'm weak so signing up to any

of the existing development plans (i.e. UKSCA or NSCA accreditations) feels a

bit like putting a square peg in a round hole and paying for the privilege.

I suppose that's another issue with both governing bodies. If as S & C

professionals we want to be taken more seriously we need to ensure high

standards throughout the field. Now if I was an accountant I would need to

become chartered or a lawyer would need to sit the Bar. I recon you won't get

much change out of £1000 once you get either CSCS or UKSCA certified. I can't

help but feel both have become good little money earners. I don't have a problem

with making money but looking at the CSCS and the exams I feel like I'm a 1st

year undergrad again. If I spend my £1000 (and I've probably spend that and more

over the last year on text books and going to seminars) I want to learn new

stuff (note I do know some of the UKSCA content is top notch).

Thanks again for your input

Andy Mclean

Edinburgh

Scotland

what is the best route into S & C

> > in the US? What qualification do you believe will open the most doors?

> > What qualification do you believe is actually worthwhile from a

> > developmental view point.

> > -----

> >

> > Andy,

> >

> > In my opinion you now have the gold standard right there in your back yard:

the UKSCA's Accredited S & C Coach program.

> > www.uksca.org.uk

> >

> > The Center of Excellence for Sport Science & Coach Education @ East

Tennessee State University, directed by Meg Stone, hosts the exam each year at

its annual Coaches & Sports Science College.

> > www.sportscienceed.com

> > The event has quickly gained recognition. The credential should continue to

do so as well. The folks who develop and administer it are doing things right.

> >

> > Having said all that - S & C here in the USA is an interesting scene. There

are some very good coaches and programs, but the noise is out of control. That's

not making it easy to find a best route for finding jobs.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Plisk

> > Excelsior Sports

> > Shelton CT

> > www.excelsiorsports.com

> > Prepare To Be A Champion!

> >

> >

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Casey and

Thanks for your input,

Things probably aren't that different over here in terms of networking and

getting a foot up. It's certainly is how I got set up in professional sport in

the UK. I like to think that you get a job through who you know but you keep it

through what you know. Networking is a reason in and of its self to be a member

of a governing body.

, I agree about the UKSCA although the bigger it gets the more politics

comes in. Any accreditation is a little limited in scope to some degree but when

you see some of the conference topics/speakers from last week you can see they

are forward thinking. Do you know if it is in any way recognised over in the US?

I know both Meg and Mike Stone a little as well from their time in Edinburgh so

I will check out that web site, it looks interesting.

Interestingly many of my colleagues in England are very dismissive of the UKSCA

whereas in Scotland it seems to be more mandatory. I suppose the problem I have

with it is that I know where I'm strong and where I'm weak so signing up to any

of the existing development plans (i.e. UKSCA or NSCA accreditations) feels a

bit like putting a square peg in a round hole and paying for the privilege.

I suppose that's another issue with both governing bodies. If as S & C

professionals we want to be taken more seriously we need to ensure high

standards throughout the field. Now if I was an accountant I would need to

become chartered or a lawyer would need to sit the Bar. I recon you won't get

much change out of £1000 once you get either CSCS or UKSCA certified. I can't

help but feel both have become good little money earners. I don't have a problem

with making money but looking at the CSCS and the exams I feel like I'm a 1st

year undergrad again. If I spend my £1000 (and I've probably spend that and more

over the last year on text books and going to seminars) I want to learn new

stuff (note I do know some of the UKSCA content is top notch).

Thanks again for your input

Andy Mclean

Edinburgh

Scotland

what is the best route into S & C

> > in the US? What qualification do you believe will open the most doors?

> > What qualification do you believe is actually worthwhile from a

> > developmental view point.

> > -----

> >

> > Andy,

> >

> > In my opinion you now have the gold standard right there in your back yard:

the UKSCA's Accredited S & C Coach program.

> > www.uksca.org.uk

> >

> > The Center of Excellence for Sport Science & Coach Education @ East

Tennessee State University, directed by Meg Stone, hosts the exam each year at

its annual Coaches & Sports Science College.

> > www.sportscienceed.com

> > The event has quickly gained recognition. The credential should continue to

do so as well. The folks who develop and administer it are doing things right.

> >

> > Having said all that - S & C here in the USA is an interesting scene. There

are some very good coaches and programs, but the noise is out of control. That's

not making it easy to find a best route for finding jobs.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Plisk

> > Excelsior Sports

> > Shelton CT

> > www.excelsiorsports.com

> > Prepare To Be A Champion!

> >

> >

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Probably hadnt fully appreciated the web site when I replied. It was very

informative and even watching the video clips I feel I picked up one or two

little bits.

Interesting that Meg and Mike Stone are running a UKSCA test over there. If I

were to apply for a job in the US with the UKSCA certification how do you think

that would be received?

Thanks

Andy Mclean

Edinburgh

what is the best route into S & C

> in the US? What qualification do you believe will open the most doors?

> What qualification do you believe is actually worthwhile from a

> developmental view point.

> -----

>

> Andy,

>

> In my opinion you now have the gold standard right there in your back yard:

the UKSCA's Accredited S & C Coach program.

> www.uksca.org.uk

>

> The Center of Excellence for Sport Science & Coach Education @ East Tennessee

State University, directed by Meg Stone, hosts the exam each year at its annual

Coaches & Sports Science College.

> www.sportscienceed.com

> The event has quickly gained recognition. The credential should continue to do

so as well. The folks who develop and administer it are doing things right.

>

> Having said all that - S & C here in the USA is an interesting scene. There are

some very good coaches and programs, but the noise is out of control. That's not

making it easy to find a best route for finding jobs.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Plisk

> Excelsior Sports

> Shelton CT

> www.excelsiorsports.com

> Prepare To Be A Champion!

>

>

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Andy Mclean wrote:

Interesting that Meg and Mike Stone are running a UKSCA test over there. If I

were to apply for a job in the US with the UKSCA certification how do you think

that would be received?

-----

Andy,

As the UKSCA continues gaining recognition among S & C professionals, hopefully it

is already highly valued within the field and continuing to gain respect.

As for what employers are looking for, that's tough to say.Unfortunatelyit seems

to be a crapshoot. With so many belief systems and 'certifications' available -

some reputable, many not - there's a little bit of everything.

Regards,

Plisk

Excelsior Sports

Shelton CT

www.excelsiorsports.com

Prepare To Be A Champion!

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Andy Mclean wrote:

Interesting that Meg and Mike Stone are running a UKSCA test over there. If I

were to apply for a job in the US with the UKSCA certification how do you think

that would be received?

-----

Andy,

As the UKSCA continues gaining recognition among S & C professionals, hopefully it

is already highly valued within the field and continuing to gain respect.

As for what employers are looking for, that's tough to say.Unfortunatelyit seems

to be a crapshoot. With so many belief systems and 'certifications' available -

some reputable, many not - there's a little bit of everything.

Regards,

Plisk

Excelsior Sports

Shelton CT

www.excelsiorsports.com

Prepare To Be A Champion!

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At my age and with my (lack of) credentials, the only way to positively

influence others is to become amazingly healthy and to live a long and healthy

life. And isn't being a good influence to others an expression of love. And

aren't we here to become more loving?

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You will grow to understand why I do what I do. I'm in my mid 40's and have

been unhealthy for almost my entire adult life. I know what its like to be sick

and I know how good it feels to have the veil of health problems lifted when I

go serious and changed my diet and lifestyle. I used to eat all those yukky

foods that tasted good. My taste buds were trained to like that junk. But what

I didn't realize was how sooo much better healthy foods taste and how much

better I feel after eating it.

I understand about the budget constraints as I used to struggle putting

food...Ramen on the table. But knowing what I know now, I would never go back

to the SAD diet and destroy my health again. I just hope that you would give it

a try because there are so many people, poor college students and large families

that switch over and make the sacrifices because its more important to have good

health than the cable bill or the daily Starbucks coffee. Those that do are

usually surprised to find out their food went farther than thought. You may

want to sit and meditate or pray about your decision or not. Either way, its

your decision.

One of my healing ministries is helping others heal their bodies just as I have,

but hopefully without having to go thru all the wasted time and mistakes I made.

Al

credentials

At my age and with my (lack of) credentials, the only way to positively

influence others is to become amazingly healthy and to live a long and healthy

life. And isn't being a good influence to others an expression of love. And

aren't we here to become more loving?

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I also believe that all diseases can be healed but not every person. Read

blog #6 by Jack Kruse and tell me if these people with the so-called

" incurable " disease and " genetic " disease tried this protocol for 30 days

and received no benefit. It is time to understand what the word epigenetic

means. Epigenetics is way more important than genetics.

http://jackkruse.com/cold-thermogenesis-6-the-ancient-pathway/

You have to think way out of the box to do something like this, but if this

is the answer, this man deserves a Nobel Prize for discovering it. It is up

to us to make a choice to do the right things. All the science is there to

make an intelligent decision. If I had an " incurable " disease I'd for go it

because I would have nothing to lose.

Marilyn,

also sending to off topic chat group where this belongs.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Tigertame4 <tigertame4@...> wrote:

> I wish it were true that there are no diseases that cannot be healed. In

> addition to my oldest brother having type I diabetes, my other brother and

> his son both have amyloidosis which is also incur able and genetic. There

> are many diseases that cannot be healed and there are a lot of bogus cues

> floating around the Internet preying on the hope of suffering people.

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> Lee Anne, pennsylvania

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The SAD is based on the Foor Pyramid which makes Grains the basic food and foods

which should be good for us including milk & meats and butter are at the " eat

very skimpy " recommended part of this SAD food pyramid. Most Americans do eat

the food pyramid SAD way. Of course, this includes all the prepackaged,

processed, low fat, bad veggie oils, fast food stuff that most Americans do eat

daily. I have Never gone to a wedding, picnic or event where About everybody or

Everybody BUT ME didn't eat these kinds of foods.

Alice

Yes, ***please,*** let’s return to kefir discussion. It is getting so

uncomfortable to read all the hostile and preachy posts.

Belinda, SAD stands for Standard American Diet. I’m not sure what that is

though. Americans are a very diverse people and just because someone is American

doesn’t mean they eat a certain way.

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Lee Ann,

I'm not the person that says there are no incurable disease, only incurable

people. Bell, homeopath; Dr. King, DC, ND; Dr. Leonard

Coldwell; Dr. Rashid Buttar and many, many more say it. Dr. Buttar is one of

the top 50 doctors in the world and he talks with every Monday on the

Bell show.

You could even call up and leave a question for he and Dr. Buttar or Dr.

King (say who you would like to address the question) to answer about your

brother and nephew. It's an answering machine, so ask your question (giving as

much detail about their current treatment, diet, etc. or what specific

treatments they've tried in the past). Be as specific as you can and they will

most likely play the recording of your question on the show and answer the

question with what treatments they would recommend. 1-866-939-2355 There is no

harm in making the phone call as it might help others who are listening to the

show who have the same condition. Dr. Buttar comes on every Monday and Dr. King

is on every Friday, so if is going to answer the question, it will

probably be on those days. He may take a could weeks to get to your question,

depending on how many other questions he has before yours.

Then listen to the show on http://radio.naturalnews.com/

Why do you lump all alternative therapies in with " bogus cures " ? Homeopathy is

a very powerful treatment that can do what allopathy can only dream of doing.

What treatments have your brother and his son tried for their condition? You

can't say all of them because there are literally hundreds of different

treatments? Who told you or your brother that the alternative treatments don't

work? What specific therpies have they tried and for how long? Have they

changed their diet and lifestyle to a healthy one or are they eating the

standard american diet (SAD) diet? Sometimes, there is needed a combination of

treatments to do the job because just one won't do it and everybody is a little

different.

http://hpathy.com/ask-homeopathy-doctors/can-homeopathy-be-given-to-a-immunosupp\

ressed-patient/

Do you know which type of amyloidosis it is or the cause of the amyloidosis is

it? Because it looks like the Rife Machine has a frequency for it.

http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter135/frequecies.htm

Have they ever seen a Naturopathic Doctor? Please do not say that all

alternative therapies do not work because that is absolutely not true. The

allopathic doctors will tell you that so that you keep coming to them.

Al

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I do not discount all alternative medicine but, I have had experience with a

couple of friends with cancer who were exploited by so-called alternative

practioners who charged exorbanant fees for questionable treatments which did

not help. There are so very many alternative treatments that have never been

subjected to any sort of tests. They are unproven and prey upon the most

vulnerable. At this point my brother has had many surgeries to remove the

amyloid growths and has no use of his hands. Even if these practioners could

cure him. My nephew has the amyloid in his organs. If you know of people who

have been cured of real diseasesthen that is great and I am happy for them. I

just have never found real measurable results for serious disease.

Lee Anne, Pennsylvania

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> I'm not the person that says there are no incurable disease, only incurable

people. Bell, homeopath; Dr. King, DC, ND; Dr. Leonard

Coldwell; Dr. Rashid Buttar and many, many more say it. Dr. Buttar is one of

the top 50 doctors in the world and he talks with every Monday on the

Bell show.

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Greetings,

Come on over to Cancercured at , there are a ton of us that

have cured or held in remission our cancers using a mixture of

alternative and mainstream, whatever is best for that person.

Personally, I just beat melanoma by diet and alternatives. However, I

totally agree with you about the rip off artists. On that list, we have

several very good practitioners that will evaluate the hype and help the

rest of us not waste our money on rip offs.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

On 7/20/2012 3:20 PM, Tigertame4 wrote:

> I do not discount all alternative medicine but, I have had experience

> with a couple of friends with cancer who were exploited by so-called

> alternative practioners who charged exorbanant fees for questionable

> treatments which did not help. There are so very many alternative

> treatments that have never been subjected to any sort of tests. They are

> unproven and prey upon the most vulnerable. At this point my brother has

> had many surgeries to remove the amyloid growths and has no use of his

> hands. Even if these practioners could cure him. My nephew has the

> amyloid in his organs. If you know of people who have been cured of real

> diseasesthen that is great and I am happy for them. I just have never

> found real measurable results for serious disease.

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> Lee Anne, Pennsylvania

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> > Lee Ann,

> >

> > I'm not the person that says there are no incurable disease, only

> incurable people. Bell, homeopath; Dr. King, DC, ND;

> Dr. Leonard Coldwell; Dr. Rashid Buttar and many, many more say it. Dr.

> Buttar is one of the top 50 doctors in the world and he talks with

> every Monday on the Bell show.

> >

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It has been my experience that the more that one has to pay a healer, the less

useful they are. In other words, the volume of money coming out of your pocket

(or the insurance company's coffers) is inversely proportional to the amount of

benefit you can expect to gain.

My introduction to Bach flower remedies is instructive. I sat on the floor in

the hippy pad of a new devotee of Meher Baba who gave me some flower remedies

for depression or whatever it was at the time, and the problems literally jumped

out of my head and ran down the hall and jumped out the window. His fee:

$zero.

But the expensive chiropractor who charged the insurance company $3600 on my

behalf, bless his heart for sincerely trying, accomplished absolutely nothing

for months. The anthroposophical medical doctor from Holland said about the

pinched nerve in my neck that the previous chiropractor couldn't fix said, " Oh,

its just anxiety. Here, take this tincture. " And it worked immediately and

like magic. His charge: $zero

I could go on and on. And Marilyn, she charges for very health promoting kefir

that just keeps getting cheaper and cheaper every time I make a batch.

>

> From: gartht@...

> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:37:35 -0500

> Subject: Re: Re: credentials

>

> Greetings,

>

> Come on over to Cancercured at , there are a ton of us that

> have cured or held in remission our cancers using a mixture of

> alternative and mainstream, whatever is best for that person.

> Personally, I just beat melanoma by diet and alternatives. However, I

> totally agree with you about the rip off artists. On that list, we have

> several very good practitioners that will evaluate the hype and help the

> rest of us not waste our money on rip offs.

>

> Bright Blessings,

> Garth & Kim

> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

> Bedias, Texas

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Good to see that so many people are going alternative and having good

results. Pooling knowledge and helping one another is so good. On the

other hand, I see the biggest rip 0ff is the AMA and their snake oil

treatments that kill huge numbers of people every year with drugs/cancer

treatments and so on. Conventional medicene is big money, bigger than oil

money. To make matters worse, the AMA has power to FORCE their killer

treatments on people and FORCE alternative practices away from us, jailing

and fining the alternative doctors.

Just like selling raw milk is illegal, the AMA makes alternative treatment

hard with communist laws that are forcing us to all drink government

subsidized dairy products and use the government sanctioned medical system.

Why, because the raw milk/alternative medical treatments are not part of the

power system of making money off of drugs, cancer, degenerative disease and

such. I never ever saw where some alternative treatment raided, fined or

jailed AMA medical system.

At least people seem to look out for rip-off alternative med people but in

conventional med, people in general just trust doctors and get burned.

Alice

> Greetings,

>

> Come on over to Cancercured at , there are a ton of us that

> have cured or held in remission our cancers using a mixture of

> alternative and mainstream, whatever is best for that person.

> Personally, I just beat melanoma by diet and alternatives. However, I

> totally agree with you about the rip off artists. On that list, we have

> several very good practitioners that will evaluate the hype and help the

> rest of us not waste our money on rip offs.

>

> Bright Blessings,

> Garth & Kim

> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

> Bedias, Texas

>

>

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Alice,

Shake your kefir several times a day. (:->)

I think that there are other causes to this problem that you described besides

just the greed of the players involved. The public has become so materialistic

(in the philosophical and experiencial sense), with no room in their heads or

hearts that there could be an afterlife, a glorious afterlife, that they are

scared out of their wits, literally, and want to believe desperately that

doctors have the answer, no matter how many times you tell them and show them

that doctors do not have the answer.

Also, our society functions so well via specialization. The mechanic is good at

fixing cars, and if I tried to get up to speed as a mechanic so that I didn't

have to trust and pay the mechanic, I wouldn't have time for other things. And

if I had to hustle getting my own groceries without the aid of the experts at my

local big grocery store, I would get nothing else done. I have experts who cut

wood for me, and I buy it from them. This system works wonderfully. It is

called modern civilization. Someone builds roads for me; he specializes in

building roads. God knows I know next to zip about building roads.

But what happens when one of these specialists get stuck in past knowledge or if

their knowledge becomes corrupted by monied interests? And what happens if

those specialists are otherwise very smart in the fractionalistic thinking sense

of science and very impressive in their demeanor and how they carry themselves?

Society as a whole just can't bring themselves to tear themselves away from

their fixation on these people. And the doctors don't even know that they are

phucked up. They are just as fooled as we the people are. It usually takes a

lot of pain, a lot of courage, and a lot of insight to stop worshiping at the

altar of modern medicine. For me it was pain and insight. I don't recall any

courage.

>

> From: abconn@...

> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:42:25 -0500

> Subject: Re: Re: credentials

>

> Good to see that so many people are going alternative and having good

> results. Pooling knowledge and helping one another is so good. On the

> other hand, I see the biggest rip 0ff is the AMA and their snake oil

> treatments that kill huge numbers of people every year with drugs/cancer

> treatments and so on. Conventional medicene is big money, bigger than oil

> money. To make matters worse, the AMA has power to FORCE their killer

> treatments on people and FORCE alternative practices away from us, jailing

> and fining the alternative doctors.

>

> Just like selling raw milk is illegal, the AMA makes alternative treatment

> hard with communist laws that are forcing us to all drink government

> subsidized dairy products and use the government sanctioned medical system.

> Why, because the raw milk/alternative medical treatments are not part of the

> power system of making money off of drugs, cancer, degenerative disease and

> such. I never ever saw where some alternative treatment raided, fined or

> jailed AMA medical system.

>

> At least people seem to look out for rip-off alternative med people but in

> conventional med, people in general just trust doctors and get burned.

>

> Alice

>

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