Guest guest Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Before I left for New York, I gathered all my kefir milk grains from multiple sources and placed them in a plastic sandwich bag in the freezer. I had rinsed them off, but forgot to check on how clean the bag was. When I got back I rinsed them again and placed them in milk. The next day the kefir tasted " off " , but I drank some anyway and them removed the grains, rinsed them and placed them in fresh milk. I saved the off batch and mixed in some live yogurt and buttermilk to improve the taste. The next morning I had the runs, so I decided to use the bad batch only in cooking, mixing it with scrambled eggs before frying them. Even then, I sipped some to see if the flavor improved. The second day's batch smelled off, so I dumped it, rinsing the grains and remixing them with fresh milk. That afternoon I threw up everything I had eaten in the last 18 or so hours, and it was barely digested. Later I had stomach cramps and realized I had a case of food poisoning. I've read about how " off " grains can be revived and refreshed by remixing and rinsing daily with milk. My grains, however, might have a pathogen in them from contamination caused by my carelessness. Would such a bad bug go away on its own eventually or should I give up on my grains and toss them? I'm reluctant because it cost me time and money to buy and nurture them. I really should have left them in the fridge like Al said. I'm feeling better today. I'm scared to try my grains again and dread throwing them away. It'll be a while before I can afford to buy new grains after my expensive trip to NYC. Meanwhile I keep refreshing the grains and hoping. What should I do? I sent this to the Off-Topic group first by mistake. This is very much on topic. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi Larry, What milk are you using? In the future, never drink or use kefir that smells or tastes ‘off.’ Always use clean utensils and containers. The method I use to freeze grains successfully is rinse them and gently but thoroughly pat dry with a clean paper towel. If there is milk or water on the grains, it will expand when it freezes and can damage the grains. Place in a FoodSaver bag and use the gentle setting of the FoodSaver to remove the air. If you don’t have a FoodSaver, you can use a zip top freezer bag, removing all the air that you can. If you choose to keep them in the refrigerator for an extended period, the colony may become ‘unbalanced,’ but they can usually be rebalanced with a few cycles of culturing. You can try to revive the grains. Rinse them in cool, non-chlorinated water and examine the grains. What do they look like? How do they feel when you gently squeeze them? Place them in a jar with a little milk and wait until it sets up or separates, then strain. Discard the kefir. Rinse again, gently squeeze the grains and cover with milk again. Do this for several cycles (do not drink or use the kefir) until the grains produce kefir that has the typical clean, refreshing aroma of kefir. Once it smells and tastes right, you can gradually increase the amount of milk until you arrive at the normal ratio. Keep us posted. From: ljlemer Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:33 AM Subject: Contaminated grains got me sick! Now what? Before I left for New York, I gathered all my kefir milk grains from multiple sources and placed them in a plastic sandwich bag in the freezer. I had rinsed them off, but forgot to check on how clean the bag was. When I got back I rinsed them again and placed them in milk. The next day the kefir tasted " off " , but I drank some anyway and them removed the grains, rinsed them and placed them in fresh milk. I saved the off batch and mixed in some live yogurt and buttermilk to improve the taste. The next morning I had the runs, so I decided to use the bad batch only in cooking, mixing it with scrambled eggs before frying them. Even then, I sipped some to see if the flavor improved. The second day's batch smelled off, so I dumped it, rinsing the grains and remixing them with fresh milk. That afternoon I threw up everything I had eaten in the last 18 or so hours, and it was barely digested. Later I had stomach cramps and realized I had a case of food poisoning. I've read about how " off " grains can be revived and refreshed by remixing and rinsing daily with milk. My grains, however, might have a pathogen in them from contamination caused by my carelessness. Would such a bad bug go away on its own eventually or should I give up on my grains and toss them? I'm reluctant because it cost me time and money to buy and nurture them. I really should have left them in the fridge like Al said. I'm feeling better today. I'm scared to try my grains again and dread throwing them away. It'll be a while before I can afford to buy new grains after my expensive trip to NYC. Meanwhile I keep refreshing the grains and hoping. What should I do? I sent this to the Off-Topic group first by mistake. This is very much on topic. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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