Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Dear All I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the case. If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be litigating on our own. If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. Many thanks Zahid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi Everyone Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.But here is my advice to all considering legal action:Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a satisfactory response.Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. From: Zahid AhmadSent: 23 February 2011 07:59dentaljournalclub ; ; ldsnore Subject: JULY LDS people Dear All I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the case. If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be litigating on our own.If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.Many thanks Zahid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 hi guys i request the people who are waiting for lds2.... to plz suport the cause and fight against royal college as the decision what they made is absolutely ridiculous.....plz cooperate with us in dealing this issue with the royal college.... thanks pramod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore?TcAqsaFrom: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> ; dentaljournalclub ; ldsnore Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AMSubject: RE: JULY LDS people Hi Everyone Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.But here is my advice to all considering legal action:Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a satisfactory response.Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. From: Zahid AhmadSent: 23 February 2011 07:59dentaljournalclub ; ; ldsnore Subject: JULY LDS people Dear All I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the case. If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be litigating on our own.If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.Many thanks Zahid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Sb mentioned earlier that these groups r monitored, so my sincere advice just act discreetly -- I sent this from my mobile -- -original message- Subject: Re: JULY LDS people From: " Aqsa Fatima Burki " <aqsaburki@...> Date: 23/02/2011 11:42 am I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? Tc Aqsa ________________________________ From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> ; dentaljournalclub ; ldsnore Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM Subject: RE: JULY LDS people Hi Everyone Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. But here is my advice to all considering legal action: Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a satisfactory response. Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. ________________________________ From: Zahid Ahmad Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 dentaljournalclub ; ; ldsnore Subject: JULY LDS people Dear All I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the case. If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be litigating on our own. If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. Many thanks Zahid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 put a ban !!!!!! no we live in the uk ,,no one dare to do this From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? Tc Aqsa From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> ; dentaljournalclub ; ldsnore Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AMSubject: RE: JULY LDS people Hi Everyone Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.But here is my advice to all considering legal action:Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a satisfactory response.Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. From: Zahid AhmadSent: 23 February 2011 07:59dentaljournalclub ; ; ldsnore Subject: JULY LDS people Dear All I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the case. If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be litigating on our own.If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.Many thanks Zahid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 GDC has the right to even cut one from their register, we are only in the process not even registered!From: Hind Saleh <saleh.hind@...> Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 3:17:55 PMSubject: Re: JULY LDS people put a ban !!!!!! no we live in the uk ,,no one dare to do this From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? Tc Aqsa From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> ; dentaljournalclub ; ldsnore Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AMSubject: RE: JULY LDS people Hi Everyone Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.But here is my advice to all considering legal action:Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a satisfactory response.Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. From: Zahid AhmadSent: 23 February 2011 07:59dentaljournalclub ; ; ldsnore Subject: JULY LDS people Dear All I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the case. If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be litigating on our own.If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.Many thanks Zahid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ... First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us .. am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action . We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 . people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , ......... Regards Ahmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people > > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 > > > > > > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? > > > > > >Tc > > > >Aqsa > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> > > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM > >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. > >But here is my advice to all considering legal action: > >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. > >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. > >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response. > > > >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Zahid Ahmad > >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 > >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > > > >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own. > >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. > >Many thanks > >Zahid > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Thumb up -- I sent this from my mobile -- -original message- Subject: Re: JULY LDS people From: " semioo104 " <semioo104@...> Date: 23/02/2011 5:45 pm Hi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ... First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us .. am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action . We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 . people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , ......... Regards Ahmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people > > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 > > > > > > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? > > > > > >Tc > > > >Aqsa > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> > > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM > >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. > >But here is my advice to all considering legal action: > >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. > >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. > >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response. > > > >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Zahid Ahmad > >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 > >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > > > >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own. > >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. > >Many thanks > >Zahid > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dear colleagues:As I mentioned before, even when I'm not part of the group affected by the RCS disorganization and the put on hold of the LDS, I think it's great that you stand up and claim your rights.But I also agree that you should find a way to meet the Chair members at the RCS. They will eventually realize (if they haven't done so yet), how their mistakes are affecting candidates and the legal consequences this will bring for them.Thats actually the right order of steps you should follow. If the RCS give you no answer or sensible solution for the problem, then you can go to a lawyer.Hope you get a happy ending for this issue.;)MarcelaFrom: semioo104 <semioo104@...> Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 12:44:53Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Hi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ... First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action . We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 . people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , ......... Regards Ahmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people > > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 > > > > > > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? > > > > > >Tc > > > >Aqsa > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> > > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM > >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. > >But here is my advice to all considering legal action: > >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. > >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. > >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response. > > > >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Zahid Ahmad > >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 > >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > > > >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own. > >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. > >Many thanks > >Zahid > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hey no worries do what you guys think is best. Just don't set about doing anything with the hope of getting a big compensation or anything else (no one can promise anyone a big compensation) do it because you have tried and exhausted every other avenue because in case you lose you will know that you tried your best and had no other option.Anyway, I was just suggesting a more sensible route, if you concentrate your efforts in speaking as one voice to RCS rather than legal action you might get a satisfactory response without spending a penny. You may have tried individually but have you tried collectively?What's the harm in trying it? Also, are there any BDA members among you, has anyone spoken to them?Sorry if I upset anyone, am just trying to helpAll the best in whatever you do. From: ahmedabdou7583@...Sent: 23 February 2011 17:53Cc: Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Thumb up -- I sent this from my mobile ---original message-Subject: Re: JULY LDS peopleFrom: "semioo104" <semioo104@...>Date: 23/02/2011 5:45 pmHi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ...First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action .We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 .people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , .........RegardsAhmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people> > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42> >> >> > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore?> >> >> >Tc> >> >Aqsa> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...>> > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM> >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people> >> > > >Hi Everyone > >> >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.> >But here is my advice to all considering legal action:> >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.> >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.> >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response.> >> >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > >> >> ________________________________> From: Zahid Ahmad> >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59> >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people> >> > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > >> >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own.> >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.> >Many thanks > >Zahid> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 i have spoken to Hazel. everytime as a representative of all. and she knows me as ODA president. but of no use. even if we go for legal route first step is to speak to them through a legal notice to resolve it in our favour . rest you should contact sanooj if you wana support sanoj_majeed@... From: vabvyas@...Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:41:09 +0000Subject: RE: JULY LDS people Hey no worries do what you guys think is best. Just don't set about doing anything with the hope of getting a big compensation or anything else (no one can promise anyone a big compensation) do it because you have tried and exhausted every other avenue because in case you lose you will know that you tried your best and had no other option.Anyway, I was just suggesting a more sensible route, if you concentrate your efforts in speaking as one voice to RCS rather than legal action you might get a satisfactory response without spending a penny. You may have tried individually but have you tried collectively?What's the harm in trying it? Also, are there any BDA members among you, has anyone spoken to them?Sorry if I upset anyone, am just trying to helpAll the best in whatever you do. From: ahmedabdou7583@...Sent: 23 February 2011 17:53Cc: Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Thumb up -- I sent this from my mobile ---original message-Subject: Re: JULY LDS peopleFrom: "semioo104" <semioo104@...>Date: 23/02/2011 5:45 pmHi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ...First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action .We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 .people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , .........RegardsAhmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people> > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42> >> >> > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore?> >> >> >Tc> >> >Aqsa> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...>> > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM> >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people> >> > > >Hi Everyone > >> >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.> >But here is my advice to all considering legal action:> >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.> >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.> >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response.> >> >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > >> >> ________________________________> From: Zahid Ahmad> >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59> >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people> >> > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > >> >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own.> >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.> >Many thanks > >Zahid> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Zahid wt do u mean resolve in our favor? Did hazel say or give a hint? From: Zahid Ahmad <zahiddentalsurgeon@...>; To: < >; Subject: RE: JULY LDS people Sent: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 8:00:20 PM i have spoken to Hazel. everytime as a representative of all. and she knows me as ODA president. but of no use. even if we go for legal route first step is to speak to them through a legal notice to resolve it in our favour . rest you should contact sanooj if you wana support sanoj_majeed@... From: vabvyas@...Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:41:09 +0000Subject: RE: JULY LDS people Hey no worries do what you guys think is best. Just don't set about doing anything with the hope of getting a big compensation or anything else (no one can promise anyone a big compensation) do it because you have tried and exhausted every other avenue because in case you lose you will know that you tried your best and had no other option.Anyway, I was just suggesting a more sensible route, if you concentrate your efforts in speaking as one voice to RCS rather than legal action you might get a satisfactory response without spending a penny. You may have tried individually but have you tried collectively?What's the harm in trying it? Also, are there any BDA members among you, has anyone spoken to them?Sorry if I upset anyone, am just trying to helpAll the best in whatever you do. From: ahmedabdou7583@...Sent: 23 February 2011 17:53Cc: Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Thumb up -- I sent this from my mobile ---original message-Subject: Re: JULY LDS peopleFrom: " semioo104 " <semioo104@...>Date: 23/02/2011 5:45 pmHi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ...First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action .We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 .people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , .........RegardsAhmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people> > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42> >> >> > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore?> >> >> >Tc> >> >Aqsa> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...>> > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM> >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people> >> > > >Hi Everyone > >> >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue.> >But here is my advice to all considering legal action:> >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it.> >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started.> >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response.> >> >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > >> >> ________________________________> From: Zahid Ahmad> >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59> >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people> >> > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > >> >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own.> >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group.> >Many thanks > >Zahid> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have something positive to say and that's for everyone here so i am just thinking selflessly unlike you as they say ' a sore thumb sticks out'!!!! between its only because we feel for you we are advising you towards the right path, if you don't think we care, why don't you go and make your own LDS group! Secondly in your case you have option to go back to your country and practice but what about the others involved who have to stay here for their life for any reason like marriage etc so don't just think about yourself, think about everyone involved.I am sorry guys but my support is with all those who have suffered but you don't have any choice.If you are not going for GDC and just challenging you RCS then what makes you think they will actually grant you a bail to jump to ORE part 2???? Doesn't make any sense to me...oh yeah it wouldn't make any sense to any other sensible person either....RegardsAqsaFrom: semioo104 <semioo104@...> Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 5:44:53 PMSubject: Re: JULY LDS people Hi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ... First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action . We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 . people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , ......... Regards Ahmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people > > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 > > > > > > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? > > > > > >Tc > > > >Aqsa > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> > > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM > >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. > >But here is my advice to all considering legal action: > >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. > >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. > >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response. > > > >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Zahid Ahmad > >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 > >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > > > >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own. > >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. > >Many thanks > >Zahid > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 To all LDS people in trouble, Please let us contact each other on personal ID... No one knows how we feel, unless they are in our shoes... and no one knows anything about our situation except us. Thank u very much for everyone's support... but let's just keep our problems to ourselves, and not burden anybody else. Sent from on Android From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>; To: < >; Subject: Re: JULY LDS people Sent: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 8:25:33 PM I have something positive to say and that's for everyone here so i am just thinking selflessly unlike you as they say ' a sore thumb sticks out'!!!! between its only because we feel for you we are advising you towards the right path, if you don't think we care, why don't you go and make your own LDS group! Secondly in your case you have option to go back to your country and practice but what about the others involved who have to stay here for their life for any reason like marriage etc so don't just think about yourself, think about everyone involved.I am sorry guys but my support is with all those who have suffered but you don't have any choice.If you are not going for GDC and just challenging you RCS then what makes you think they will actually grant you a bail to jump to ORE part 2???? Doesn't make any sense to me...oh yeah it wouldn't make any sense to any other sensible person either....RegardsAqsaFrom: semioo104 <semioo104@...> Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 5:44:53 PMSubject: Re: JULY LDS people Hi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ... First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action . We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 . people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , ......... Regards Ahmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people > > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 > > > > > > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? > > > > > >Tc > > > >Aqsa > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> > > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM > >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. > >But here is my advice to all considering legal action: > >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. > >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. > >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response. > > > >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Zahid Ahmad > >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 > >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > > > >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own. > >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. > >Many thanks > >Zahid > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi ,hope u doin well.some emails r really irritating,and its shame that senders were called one day professionals..i think u should be professional in ur behaviour and attitude before ur job.i think u should go back and learn how to speak. And if Iam married to a british citizen this doesn't mean Iam married to the queen.we r all foreigners doesn't matter Wt color is ur passport coz this country has got its natives.i wish I were the admin :-) -- I sent this from my mobile -- -original message- Subject: Re: JULY LDS people From: " Farid " <nancyfarid@...> Date: 23/02/2011 8:56 pm <p>To all LDS people in trouble, Please let us contact each other on personal ID... No one knows how we feel, unless they are in our shoes... and no one knows anything about our situation except us. Thank u very much for everyone's support... but let's just keep our problems to ourselves, and not burden anybody else. <br><br><br></p> <p>Sent from on Android</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi Ahmed..Hope u r well too..I'm quite surprised actually, instead of support we are attacked.. I don't know why!!We're in a horrible situation, we wasted all this time, effort, and money, nevertheless, the frustration... Maybe others don't feel, what we feel, we have a saying in my country "the one who has his hands in water is not like the one whose hands are in fire"Probably that's the situation here..Let's all pray for the best.Thanks for your supportTcFrom: "ahmedabdou7583@..." <ahmedabdou7583@...>Cc: Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:23:36 PMSubject: Re: JULY LDS people Hi ,hope u doin well.some emails r really irritating,and its shame that senders were called one day professionals..i think u should be professional in ur behaviour and attitude before ur job.i think u should go back and learn how to speak. And if Iam married to a british citizen this doesn't mean Iam married to the queen.we r all foreigners doesn't matter Wt color is ur passport coz this country has got its natives.i wish I were the admin :-) -- I sent this from my mobile -- -original message- Subject: Re: JULY LDS people From: " Farid" <nancyfarid@...> Date: 23/02/2011 8:56 pm <p>To all LDS people in trouble, Please let us contact each other on personal ID... No one knows how we feel, unless they are in our shoes... and no one knows anything about our situation except us. Thank u very much for everyone's support... but let's just keep our problems to ourselves, and not burden anybody else. <br><br><br></p> <p>Sent from on Android</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 hahahaha....We are better off such professionals because atleast we are not like some people who just want to listen something which is in their good interest.One cannot expect Patient's benefit from such professionals atleast. As far as learning manners is concerned it wasn't me who started misbehaving in the beginning, some ppl should just look inside their own collar first.@No offence to you or anyone else nancy, as far as i am concerned even i could have been the victim of this because i also planned to give LDS in the first place but changed my mind on the last min.I just pointed out something which could have been the possibilty not that i wished it to happen to you guys.I wish you all the best and have all my prayers with you.The good thing about this forum is that everyone has the right to speak and if Mr Ahmed didn't like the idea, its his problem.I never meant it bring harm to him or anyone else personally...My deep prayers are with you and everyone else apart from someone who knows.RegardsAqsaFrom: "ahmedabdou7583@..." <ahmedabdou7583@...>Cc: Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:23:36 PMSubject: Re: JULY LDS people Hi ,hope u doin well.some emails r really irritating,and its shame that senders were called one day professionals..i think u should be professional in ur behaviour and attitude before ur job.i think u should go back and learn how to speak. And if Iam married to a british citizen this doesn't mean Iam married to the queen.we r all foreigners doesn't matter Wt color is ur passport coz this country has got its natives.i wish I were the admin :-) -- I sent this from my mobile -- -original message- Subject: Re: JULY LDS people From: " Farid" <nancyfarid@...> Date: 23/02/2011 8:56 pm <p>To all LDS people in trouble, Please let us contact each other on personal ID... No one knows how we feel, unless they are in our shoes... and no one knows anything about our situation except us. Thank u very much for everyone's support... but let's just keep our problems to ourselves, and not burden anybody else. <br><br><br></p> <p>Sent from on Android</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Aqsa:It is hard sometimes to know in what "tone" people mean things when written, but this email didn't sound nice at all, sounded quite rude actually.Nobody owns this group and the LDS candidates are just looking for advice and different opinions. That's what sensible people do.Also, from their emails, I never read or understood they are expecting to be "exempt" from LDS and "jumped" to ORE 2 so really don't know why you got it that way.Respect and tolerance are indicators of our level of education. So please, mind your words and try to be more polite.Thanks:)From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 15:25:33Subject: Re: JULY LDS people I have something positive to say and that's for everyone here so i am just thinking selflessly unlike you as they say ' a sore thumb sticks out'!!!! between its only because we feel for you we are advising you towards the right path, if you don't think we care, why don't you go and make your own LDS group! Secondly in your case you have option to go back to your country and practice but what about the others involved who have to stay here for their life for any reason like marriage etc so don't just think about yourself, think about everyone involved.I am sorry guys but my support is with all those who have suffered but you don't have any choice.If you are not going for GDC and just challenging you RCS then what makes you think they will actually grant you a bail to jump to ORE part 2???? Doesn't make any sense to me...oh yeah it wouldn't make any sense to any other sensible person either....RegardsAqsaFrom: semioo104 <semioo104@...> Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 5:44:53 PMSubject: Re: JULY LDS people Hi , sorry but your message really really annoyed me ... First we will sue the royal college not the GDC ... so forget the idea of getting banned ... second we already wasted money toward the exam,transport,accomodation,Flight ... etc so may as well pay few extra money toward legal action which should not be high as it will be divided on all of us . am happy to pay all the exam money that they intend to refund us toward a legal action . We will either get a big ( and I mean big ) compensation Or we will push them to get us a solution like putting us directly to ORE 2 . people who are NOT involved in the LDS don't feel how we are suffering now ... so please if you have something positive to say , say it ... If not , ......... Regards Ahmed Sam > > > >From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > >Subject: Re: JULY LDS people > > > >Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 11:42 > > > > > > > >I agree with Vaibhav here because if in the end u lost, u will end up losing > >your money and u will have to pay for their lawyer too plus they might put a ban > >on you for the legal action and who knows u might never appear in ore? > > > > > >Tc > > > >Aqsa > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vaibhav <vabvyas@...> > > ; dentaljournalclub ; > >ldsnore > >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:51 AM > >Subject: RE: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Hi Everyone > > > >Could I just add my comments here. Firstly I am sorry some of you guys are in > >this situation, to be honest I am not entirely sure what injustice you have been > >subject too as I dont understand this LDS issue. > >But here is my advice to all considering legal action: > >Has anyone approached the RCS and spoken to someone in Authority there? If you > >have a strong case and you approach the RCS collectively maybe they will listen. > >Why waste your time and money on legal action if it can be resolved without it. > >Secondly, do not listen to lawyers they are out to grab your money. You really > >need to explore all avenues and think long and hard before you take that action. > >You may end up paying a lot of money to get what you want but in the end it may > >not be worth it and if you fail in your legal action you will end up paying a > >lot of money to the lawyers and be much worse off than you started. > >So to summarise, speak collectively to RCS (speak to the Dean if you have to) > >tell them how you feel and tell them you are considering legal action and don't > >take the legal action route until you have done that and are not getting a > >satisfactory response. > > > >Never take legal action on the advice of a lawyer. Think about it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Zahid Ahmad > >Sent: 23 February 2011 07:59 > >dentaljournalclub ; ; > >ldsnore > >Subject: JULY LDS people > > > > > >Dear All > >I want to hear from any one from July Part 2 people who have gone for judicial > >review . we are 15 people we can contribute and be the interested party in the > >case. > > > >If interested please contact me on my personal id .Otherwise we will be > >litigating on our own. > >If you want to know more about developments join us at LDSnORE group. > >Many thanks > >Zahid > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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