Re: How do you compete with these prices.........

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In a message dated 9/14/2004 7:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cpfarm@... writes:

I don't have the time as I have a full time dairy

farm. I have a set group of customers that usually buy 10 or more bars at a

time.

Chris

Do you any of the dairy milk in your soaps?? One woman at the farmers

market has a goat farm, she makes goat cheese. I used to use her goatsmilk in

my

soap, but have run out. She has since then been making her own goatsmilk

soap. Nice big healthy bars which she sells for around $4.50. (and she gets

it)

If I go up to $3.50 I don't get it. I get 73 bars out of an 11 lb. batch.

Cut them 3x2x3/4 " . small but I dress them up. My average bar is around 50

cents (dressing and all)

in Cambridge

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/14/2004 7:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cpfarm@... writes:

I don't have the time as I have a full time dairy

farm. I have a set group of customers that usually buy 10 or more bars at a

time.

Chris

Do you any of the dairy milk in your soaps?? One woman at the farmers

market has a goat farm, she makes goat cheese. I used to use her goatsmilk in

my

soap, but have run out. She has since then been making her own goatsmilk

soap. Nice big healthy bars which she sells for around $4.50. (and she gets

it)

If I go up to $3.50 I don't get it. I get 73 bars out of an 11 lb. batch.

Cut them 3x2x3/4 " . small but I dress them up. My average bar is around 50

cents (dressing and all)

in Cambridge

~~Madness takes its toll, please have the exact change~~

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/14/2004 7:54:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ledliana@... writes:

Hi ....hope you don't mind my asking........I do HP, could I use castor

oil at the end of the cook ? How much would i use in a 1 kg batch ? Never

used it before! I usually add shea at the end , so can i use shea and a bit

of castor ? Thanks so much...........hugs, .

Sure you can. I have no idea what 1kg is though..... What is shea like at

the end. When I use shea, I use 5 ounces and subtract it from the amount of

palm I'm using.

in Cambridge

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/14/2004 7:54:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ledliana@... writes:

Hi ....hope you don't mind my asking........I do HP, could I use castor

oil at the end of the cook ? How much would i use in a 1 kg batch ? Never

used it before! I usually add shea at the end , so can i use shea and a bit

of castor ? Thanks so much...........hugs, .

Sure you can. I have no idea what 1kg is though..... What is shea like at

the end. When I use shea, I use 5 ounces and subtract it from the amount of

palm I'm using.

in Cambridge

~~Madness takes its toll, please have the exact change~~

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/14/2004 8:10:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cpfarm@... writes:

I tell you what your send me your mailing address and I will send you a bar

of soap and they your can change your own mind.

Chris

>

> No you didn't hurt my feelings, but if you want to change my mind, you'll

> have to cut off my head.

Oh thanks but that's ok, I have a lot of work to do. Maybe another time, I

have tons of soap.

in Cambridge

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/14/2004 8:10:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cpfarm@... writes:

I tell you what your send me your mailing address and I will send you a bar

of soap and they your can change your own mind.

Chris

>

> No you didn't hurt my feelings, but if you want to change my mind, you'll

> have to cut off my head.

Oh thanks but that's ok, I have a lot of work to do. Maybe another time, I

have tons of soap.

in Cambridge

~~Madness takes its toll, please have the exact change~~

[Guest guest]

Alice

Probably the least expensive soap is Melt and Pour Soap and not cold

processed soap and therefore is not expensive to make.

You can get Aloe Vera Juice in Walmart in the pharmacy section for

about $8.00 a gallon which is what we use in soapmaking.

Different soaps command different prices depending upon the process

and the contents of the soap. Soap does NOT need to list ingredients

if no claims are made other than it cleans. If you say that your

soap will mositurize or beautify, etc, then it becomes a cosmetic and

proper labeling is required. BUT soap does require the net weight

and the manuf. name, address on the label.

You will have to charge cost plus a percentage for labor. And again

it depends on the cost of ingredients, and labor involved in

production. As far a competition goes, make your soap something

special that others are not making, and you will find your niche.

hth

Sherry

Natural Care E-books, booklet, spreadsheets, free downloads

www.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com

[Guest guest]

Thanx! I'm gonna try it!

> I use Olive as the main part of my soap because it is mild and

reasonable in

> price.

> Coconut and Palm Kernel for hardness and lather

> Castor for lather

> Coco butter for harness and moisturizing

> Shea for it's wonderful feel and because it has so many

unsponifiables

> I am also very fond of Sunflower, Apricot Kernel and Avocado

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ...and thank you. I am going to give that a try. Shea at the end of

the cook is wonderful...I love it.

1 kg is approx' 2 lbs 4 oz. Hugs, .

Subject: Re: How do you compete with these prices.........

>

> Sure you can. I have no idea what 1kg is though..... What is shea like

at

> the end. When I use shea, I use 5 ounces and subtract it from the amount

of

> palm I'm using.

>

> in Cambridge

> ~~Madness takes its toll, please have the exact change~~

[Guest guest]

Hi

I started out using heavy cream in my soap added at trace. Then people

found out I had raw milk and now I don't have enough milk to sell to them

and feed my calves and do soap. I am raising another heifer to milk but it

will be a while. I had goats and was milking 10 to 15 goats a day. I am

really not a goat person and I get 8 gallons a day from one cow. So the

goats went and now I just have cows. I sell beef and pork and milk and eggs

along with my soap. I find that 3.00 for a 4 oz bar is as high as I can

get. I sell them for 2.50 if they buy 10 or more bars at a time. So now

most of my customers do it that way. I am not fancy with the soap, no label

or packaging. So far I have not had any complaints. I do get fancier for

Christmas. I would love to make cheese but again I can't do this until I

get more milk. I get 3.50 a gallon so customers come first.

Chris

> I don't have the time as I have a full time dairy

> farm. I have a set group of customers that usually buy 10 or more bars

at a

> time.

> Chris

> Do you any of the dairy milk in your soaps?? One woman at the farmers

> market has a goat farm, she makes goat cheese. I used to use her

goatsmilk in my

> soap, but have run out. She has since then been making her own goatsmilk

> soap. Nice big healthy bars which she sells for around $4.50. (and she

gets it)

>

> If I go up to $3.50 I don't get it. I get 73 bars out of an 11 lb.

batch.

> Cut them 3x2x3/4 " . small but I dress them up. My average bar is around

50

> cents (dressing and all)

>

> in Cambridge

> ~~Madness takes its toll, please have the exact change~~

[Guest guest]

What an interesting story. I remember adding milk at trace when I didn HP.

I had to freeze the milk and heat the honey. It was weird. I do 100% goats

milk soap now (Oatmeal, Milk and Honey) - Sounds like you have an

interesting sideline going, plus a lot of work.

Good luck

Hi

I started out using heavy cream in my soap added at trace. Then people

found out I had raw milk and now I don't have enough milk to sell to them

and feed my calves and do soap. I am raising another heifer to milk but it

will be a while. I had goats and was milking 10 to 15 goats a day. I am

really not a goat person and I get 8 gallons a day from one cow. So the

goats went and now I just have cows. I sell beef and pork and milk and eggs

along with my soap. I find that 3.00 for a 4 oz bar is as high as I can

get. I sell them for 2.50 if they buy 10 or more bars at a time.

in Cambridge

~~Madness takes its toll, please have the exact change~~

[Guest guest]

I've always wanted a milk cow and chickens. My life has been spent

with me in the wrong place.

How much cream at trace? I'd think that works better than adding it

to the lye water, as it'd keep more of the milky goodies in it,

right?

> Hi

> I started out using heavy cream in my soap added at trace. milk

and eggs

> along with my soap.

[Guest guest]

I have chickens and usually have more eggs than we can eat. Any

ideas for incorporating eggs into soaps or lotions?? Hydrolyzed

albumin maybe???

> > Hi

> > I started out using heavy cream in my soap added at trace. milk

> and eggs

> > along with my soap.

[Guest guest]

Dont know for sure, but I think the protein (egg white) would burn and be

stinky...However, the egg yolks are fat and somewhere I have seen a sap value!

Sandy

Re: How do you compete with these prices.........

I have chickens and usually have more eggs than we can eat. Any

ideas for incorporating eggs into soaps or lotions?? Hydrolyzed

albumin maybe???

> > Hi

> > I started out using heavy cream in my soap added at trace. milk

> and eggs

> > along with my soap.

[Guest guest]

I was adding about 4 or 5 ounces and yes this does leave the cream more

available for your skin. This is what most of the milk people that I talk

to are doing. There is much less margin of error this way.

Chris

> I've always wanted a milk cow and chickens. My life has been spent

> with me in the wrong place.

> How much cream at trace? I'd think that works better than adding it

> to the lye water, as it'd keep more of the milky goodies in it,

> right?