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The acetone thing is quite common in vinegar making, it isn't acetone though,

it's an aldehyde, it happens when the fermentation is incomplete, probably

because it's not getting enough O2, in vinegar at least, but acetobacter is part

of the brew isn't it? I've only had it with some red wine that I didn't dilute

enough, once I added more water and started doing the proper maths it stopped.

Jim

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Hi Jill and EveryOne,

I've been reading this list since 1995, on almost a daily basis, and

although the subject of Acetone has come up a few times, evidently

from reading the same book you did, no one has ever said that they

experienced their KT having Acetone or smelling like it.

Can't imagine drinking anything that smelled like nail polish remover....

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> I just read today in a book on kombucha that older, stronger Kombucha

> that is kept in the fridge, and not covered but actually capped, can

> develop into acetone. It sad that if your kombucha smelled a bit like

> nail polish remover, don't drink it. That it can cause kidney damage

> and etc.

>

> I wonder if this is true? Does anyone on the forum know?

>

> Jill! \o/

>

Take care,

Jim

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*The acetone thing is quite common in vinegar making, it isn't

acetone though, it's an aldehyde, it happens when the fermentation is

incomplete, probably because it's not getting enough O2, in vinegar

at least, but acetobacter is part of the brew isn't it? I've only had

it with some red wine that I didn't dilute enough, once I added more

water and started doing the proper maths it stopped.

Jim*

The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

to be wrong!

So, is there a danger in leaving the kombucha covered in the frisdge

too long and then drinking it, or not, in your knowledge?

Thanks, Jill! \o/

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*The acetone thing is quite common in vinegar making, it isn't

acetone though, it's an aldehyde, it happens when the fermentation is

incomplete, probably because it's not getting enough O2, in vinegar

at least, but acetobacter is part of the brew isn't it? I've only had

it with some red wine that I didn't dilute enough, once I added more

water and started doing the proper maths it stopped.

Jim*

The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

to be wrong!

So, is there a danger in leaving the kombucha covered in the frisdge

too long and then drinking it, or not, in your knowledge?

Thanks, Jill! \o/

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>

> The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

> have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

> to be wrong!

>

>

Did she say why? I have no idea why (in small amounts) we should not

give it to children. Are there any more thoughts on this?

Maggie

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>

> The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

> have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

> to be wrong!

>

>

Did she say why? I have no idea why (in small amounts) we should not

give it to children. Are there any more thoughts on this?

Maggie

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I've read in a few places that children shouldn't be given kombucha,

something to do with flushing out the liver, but just after reading

this I wouldn't give it to children. However don't take my word for

it. I don't know anything about kombucha worth its salt.

" The water-soluble toxins of Aspergillus can be highly carcinogenic.

Several species are known killers. Since the public can not be

expected to distinguish a clean fermented culture from one which is

not, I fear that the unreserved use of this tea will result, has

resulted in illness, if not death. (See Newsweek, April 25th, 1995,

pg. 6.) "

http://www.fungi.com/info/articles/blob.html

Jim

On 14 Sep 2007, at 13:28, lillisilly wrote:

> The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

> have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

> to be wrong!

>

> So, is there a danger in leaving the kombucha covered in the frisdge

> too long and then drinking it, or not, in your knowledge?

>

> Thanks, Jill! \o/

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I've read in a few places that children shouldn't be given kombucha,

something to do with flushing out the liver, but just after reading

this I wouldn't give it to children. However don't take my word for

it. I don't know anything about kombucha worth its salt.

" The water-soluble toxins of Aspergillus can be highly carcinogenic.

Several species are known killers. Since the public can not be

expected to distinguish a clean fermented culture from one which is

not, I fear that the unreserved use of this tea will result, has

resulted in illness, if not death. (See Newsweek, April 25th, 1995,

pg. 6.) "

http://www.fungi.com/info/articles/blob.html

Jim

On 14 Sep 2007, at 13:28, lillisilly wrote:

> The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

> have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

> to be wrong!

>

> So, is there a danger in leaving the kombucha covered in the frisdge

> too long and then drinking it, or not, in your knowledge?

>

> Thanks, Jill! \o/

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In message <fceauv+5o02eGroups> you wrote:

> > The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

> > have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

> > to be wrong!

That's my opinion too!

> Did she say why? I have no idea why (in small amounts) we should not

> give it to children. Are there any more thoughts on this?

>

Hi Maggie, There are 2 camps, one that okays KT for ages (I belong to that,

as does Baker), while the Happy Herbalist Ed is not so happy about

the idea.

It's all to do with the growing immune system.

From what I have experienced, Kombucha (as do all fermented foods) undergird

and help the body's functioning, e.g. disease fighting. My own children

have thrived on KT and are very well balanced and healthy adults.

In my experience, Kombucha can only assist the body, being an adult or

child one. Kombucha is not a drug, but a superfood from which everyone can

benefit... and that includes children. If they like and accept it I would

take it as a sign that it will be good for them - it was and is for mine!

Cast fears aside and enjoy the Creator's special health draught.

kombuchaly,

Margret:-)

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In message <fceauv+5o02eGroups> you wrote:

> > The woman who wrote this book also said that children should never

> > have kombucha. I know very little about this, but I thought that had

> > to be wrong!

That's my opinion too!

> Did she say why? I have no idea why (in small amounts) we should not

> give it to children. Are there any more thoughts on this?

>

Hi Maggie, There are 2 camps, one that okays KT for ages (I belong to that,

as does Baker), while the Happy Herbalist Ed is not so happy about

the idea.

It's all to do with the growing immune system.

From what I have experienced, Kombucha (as do all fermented foods) undergird

and help the body's functioning, e.g. disease fighting. My own children

have thrived on KT and are very well balanced and healthy adults.

In my experience, Kombucha can only assist the body, being an adult or

child one. Kombucha is not a drug, but a superfood from which everyone can

benefit... and that includes children. If they like and accept it I would

take it as a sign that it will be good for them - it was and is for mine!

Cast fears aside and enjoy the Creator's special health draught.

kombuchaly,

Margret:-)

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" The water-soluble toxins of Aspergillus can be highly carcinogenic.

Several species are known killers. Since the public can not be

expected to distinguish a clean fermented culture from one which is

not, I fear that the unreserved use of this tea will result, has

resulted in illness, if not death. (See Newsweek, April 25th, 1995,

pg. 6.) "

Cobblers!(?)

Nn. England.

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" The water-soluble toxins of Aspergillus can be highly carcinogenic.

Several species are known killers. Since the public can not be

expected to distinguish a clean fermented culture from one which is

not, I fear that the unreserved use of this tea will result, has

resulted in illness, if not death. (See Newsweek, April 25th, 1995,

pg. 6.) "

Cobblers!(?)

Nn. England.

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In message <318313E0-10D2-4D57-AFF5-655728AE5586@...> you

wrote:

>

> I've read in a few places that children shouldn't be given kombucha,

> something to do with flushing out the liver, but just after reading

> this I wouldn't give it to children. However don't take my word for

> it. I don't know anything about kombucha worth its salt.

>

> " The water-soluble toxins of Aspergillus can be highly carcinogenic.

> Several species are known killers. Since the public can not be

> expected to distinguish a clean fermented culture from one which is

> not, I fear that the unreserved use of this tea will result, has

> resulted in illness, if not death. (See Newsweek, April 25th, 1995,

> pg. 6.) "

>

> http://www.fungi.com/info/articles/blob.html

>

Jim, As I have said in a recent post, this article is to a large degree

ill-informed and best ignored, unless you want to join the rank of the

paranoid.

To speak about Kombucha as though it is a mushroom/fungus, shows the

height of ignorance. It is NOT a fungus, but a symbiotic culture of

yeasts and bacteria - quite different biologically.

, who wrote the article obviously thrives on scepticism and does

not seem to have even properly tried Kombucha.

The supposed 'death by Kombucha poisoning' never happened, as the persons

concerned died of causes due to their massive health problems, not

Kombucha and this was even established by the health authorities.

It's just old prejudicial tripe warmed up ... no wonder you get a bad

digestion if you take that article seriously ;-)

I give the article in question an unreserved 'thumbs-down' and I am actually

quite cross that the wrong ideas in it are dished up yet again to cause

insecurity among first time brewers.

Trust yourself and your Kombucha and your healthy common-sense instincts

that go with it.

Breathing fire from the Bavarian Lion's lair,

Margret;-)

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In message <318313E0-10D2-4D57-AFF5-655728AE5586@...> you

wrote:

>

> I've read in a few places that children shouldn't be given kombucha,

> something to do with flushing out the liver, but just after reading

> this I wouldn't give it to children. However don't take my word for

> it. I don't know anything about kombucha worth its salt.

>

> " The water-soluble toxins of Aspergillus can be highly carcinogenic.

> Several species are known killers. Since the public can not be

> expected to distinguish a clean fermented culture from one which is

> not, I fear that the unreserved use of this tea will result, has

> resulted in illness, if not death. (See Newsweek, April 25th, 1995,

> pg. 6.) "

>

> http://www.fungi.com/info/articles/blob.html

>

Jim, As I have said in a recent post, this article is to a large degree

ill-informed and best ignored, unless you want to join the rank of the

paranoid.

To speak about Kombucha as though it is a mushroom/fungus, shows the

height of ignorance. It is NOT a fungus, but a symbiotic culture of

yeasts and bacteria - quite different biologically.

, who wrote the article obviously thrives on scepticism and does

not seem to have even properly tried Kombucha.

The supposed 'death by Kombucha poisoning' never happened, as the persons

concerned died of causes due to their massive health problems, not

Kombucha and this was even established by the health authorities.

It's just old prejudicial tripe warmed up ... no wonder you get a bad

digestion if you take that article seriously ;-)

I give the article in question an unreserved 'thumbs-down' and I am actually

quite cross that the wrong ideas in it are dished up yet again to cause

insecurity among first time brewers.

Trust yourself and your Kombucha and your healthy common-sense instincts

that go with it.

Breathing fire from the Bavarian Lion's lair,

Margret;-)

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 22:07, Margret Pegg wrote:

> Jim, As I have said in a recent post, this article is to a large

> degree

> ill-informed and best ignored, unless you want to join the rank of the

> paranoid.

>

> To speak about Kombucha as though it is a mushroom/fungus, shows the

> height of ignorance. It is NOT a fungus, but a symbiotic culture of

> yeasts and bacteria - quite different biologically.

>

> , who wrote the article obviously thrives on scepticism and does

> not seem to have even properly tried Kombucha.

>

> The supposed 'death by Kombucha poisoning' never happened, as the

> persons

> concerned died of causes due to their massive health problems, not

> Kombucha and this was even established by the health authorities.

> It's just old prejudicial tripe warmed up ... no wonder you get a bad

> digestion if you take that article seriously ;-)

>

> I give the article in question an unreserved 'thumbs-down' and I am

> actually

> quite cross that the wrong ideas in it are dished up yet again to

> cause

> insecurity among first time brewers.

>

> Trust yourself and your Kombucha and your healthy common-sense

> instincts

> that go with it.

>

> Breathing fire from the Bavarian Lion's lair,

>

> Margret;-)

> no wonder you get a bad

> digestion if you take that article seriously ;-)

There's nothing wrong with my digestion. : -)

Actually I thought it was very well balanced. I really don't think

that it's a bad thing to be cautious about what you're brewing in

your kitchen. Toxins in the environment are real. People die all the

time from eating contaminated food. We need to exercise our judgement

and not throw caution to the wind when we prepare our food for

others. What we do for ourselves is our own concern.

Anyway. Balance is what it is all about and what all of us need in

our lives. Practising the extreme is what makes many people ill in

the first place.

Jim

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 22:07, Margret Pegg wrote:

> Jim, As I have said in a recent post, this article is to a large

> degree

> ill-informed and best ignored, unless you want to join the rank of the

> paranoid.

>

> To speak about Kombucha as though it is a mushroom/fungus, shows the

> height of ignorance. It is NOT a fungus, but a symbiotic culture of

> yeasts and bacteria - quite different biologically.

>

> , who wrote the article obviously thrives on scepticism and does

> not seem to have even properly tried Kombucha.

>

> The supposed 'death by Kombucha poisoning' never happened, as the

> persons

> concerned died of causes due to their massive health problems, not

> Kombucha and this was even established by the health authorities.

> It's just old prejudicial tripe warmed up ... no wonder you get a bad

> digestion if you take that article seriously ;-)

>

> I give the article in question an unreserved 'thumbs-down' and I am

> actually

> quite cross that the wrong ideas in it are dished up yet again to

> cause

> insecurity among first time brewers.

>

> Trust yourself and your Kombucha and your healthy common-sense

> instincts

> that go with it.

>

> Breathing fire from the Bavarian Lion's lair,

>

> Margret;-)

> no wonder you get a bad

> digestion if you take that article seriously ;-)

There's nothing wrong with my digestion. : -)

Actually I thought it was very well balanced. I really don't think

that it's a bad thing to be cautious about what you're brewing in

your kitchen. Toxins in the environment are real. People die all the

time from eating contaminated food. We need to exercise our judgement

and not throw caution to the wind when we prepare our food for

others. What we do for ourselves is our own concern.

Anyway. Balance is what it is all about and what all of us need in

our lives. Practising the extreme is what makes many people ill in

the first place.

Jim

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Thank you, Margaret, for your reasoned assurances. I've been giving

a little watered-down KT to my 2 y.o. granddaughter and she loves

it! She actually asks for it! She is the picture of health having

gone from breast milk to raw cow's milk and kefir(my own cow) at 10

mos of age. So I guess I already feed " dangerous " things to her

anyway. By the way, she very rarely ever gets sick, and I can't even

remember the last time she saw a doctor. Oh and ditto for my friend

with 3 kids who drink KT and raw milk.

Maggie

> >

>

>

> It's all to do with the growing immune system.

> From what I have experienced, Kombucha (as do all fermented foods)

undergird

> and help the body's functioning, e.g. disease fighting. My own

children

> have thrived on KT and are very well balanced and healthy adults.

>

> In my experience, Kombucha can only assist the body, being an

adult or

> child one. Kombucha is not a drug, but a superfood from which

everyone can

> benefit... and that includes children. If they like and accept it

I would

> take it as a sign that it will be good for them - it was and is

for mine!

>

>

> Cast fears aside and enjoy the Creator's special health draught.

>

> kombuchaly,

>

> Margret:-)

>

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>

> ...whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, adnirable,

excellent

> or praiseworthy, think about such things! (Phil.4:8)

>

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Thank you, Margaret, for your reasoned assurances. I've been giving

a little watered-down KT to my 2 y.o. granddaughter and she loves

it! She actually asks for it! She is the picture of health having

gone from breast milk to raw cow's milk and kefir(my own cow) at 10

mos of age. So I guess I already feed " dangerous " things to her

anyway. By the way, she very rarely ever gets sick, and I can't even

remember the last time she saw a doctor. Oh and ditto for my friend

with 3 kids who drink KT and raw milk.

Maggie

> >

>

>

> It's all to do with the growing immune system.

> From what I have experienced, Kombucha (as do all fermented foods)

undergird

> and help the body's functioning, e.g. disease fighting. My own

children

> have thrived on KT and are very well balanced and healthy adults.

>

> In my experience, Kombucha can only assist the body, being an

adult or

> child one. Kombucha is not a drug, but a superfood from which

everyone can

> benefit... and that includes children. If they like and accept it

I would

> take it as a sign that it will be good for them - it was and is

for mine!

>

>

> Cast fears aside and enjoy the Creator's special health draught.

>

> kombuchaly,

>

> Margret:-)

>

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> http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com

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>

> ...whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, adnirable,

excellent

> or praiseworthy, think about such things! (Phil.4:8)

>

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Hi Doris,

I hope someone has suggestions for you, as I may use them myself. I

have a 12 year old who has decided he isn't going to work at school

and is shutting down in classes (regular ed classrooms). He then

refuses to go out with the teacher, dean, or anyone else. So he is

coming home with hours of homework from all the work he didn't get

done in classes, and we have it piling up at home. I have tried

removing his Nintendo DS privileges but then he goes in his bedroom

and reads. He said last night " ...then I'll just quit school " , which

really sent me into fits as I think he really does believe school has

no purpose!

He does have a BIP and FBA but I just can't seem to impress on him at

home how what he does at school directly effects how much free time

he has at home. I can't take this, every night is consumed with

homework until I have to throw a dinner together, and this is after

sub teaching all day.

Help, for any suggestions!

>

> My 12 year old has gotten pretty mouthy. When I ask him to do

something, he replies, " You know that I don't have to mind you! "

or " Make me! " I can't make him do anything and half of the time he

is doing what I asked as he is smarting off. The only effective

punishment I can mete out is to ground him from the computer.

>

> Any suggestions or ideas or help?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Doris M of OK

>

>

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Our son is 13 and was doing the same thing. What helped with him was a

behavior re-director that built a relationship with him and got to know him.

She figured out that he would work for time away from work. For example, his

classes are 45 minutes. If he finishes his work before the end of class, he

gets to choose what to do with the rest of the time. His choices are

computer time, time with a few select adults, or playing with his trains.

If he has a good day he gets out of school 5 minutes before everyone else.

If the whole week has been good, he gets out 15 minutes early on Friday.

It's been a powerful motivator for him & costs the school nothing.

Tonya

Re: Help!

Hi Doris,

I hope someone has suggestions for you, as I may use them myself. I

have a 12 year old who has decided he isn't going to work at school

and is shutting down in classes (regular ed classrooms). He then

refuses to go out with the teacher, dean, or anyone else. So he is

coming home with hours of homework from all the work he didn't get

done in classes, and we have it piling up at home. I have tried

removing his Nintendo DS privileges but then he goes in his bedroom

and reads. He said last night " ...then I'll just quit school " , which

really sent me into fits as I think he really does believe school has

no purpose!

He does have a BIP and FBA but I just can't seem to impress on him at

home how what he does at school directly effects how much free time

he has at home. I can't take this, every night is consumed with

homework until I have to throw a dinner together, and this is after

sub teaching all day.

Help, for any suggestions!

>

> My 12 year old has gotten pretty mouthy. When I ask him to do

something, he replies, " You know that I don't have to mind you! "

or " Make me! " I can't make him do anything and half of the time he

is doing what I asked as he is smarting off. The only effective

punishment I can mete out is to ground him from the computer.

>

> Any suggestions or ideas or help?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Doris M of OK

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

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>

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Our son is 13 and was doing the same thing. What helped with him was a

behavior re-director that built a relationship with him and got to know him.

She figured out that he would work for time away from work. For example, his

classes are 45 minutes. If he finishes his work before the end of class, he

gets to choose what to do with the rest of the time. His choices are

computer time, time with a few select adults, or playing with his trains.

If he has a good day he gets out of school 5 minutes before everyone else.

If the whole week has been good, he gets out 15 minutes early on Friday.

It's been a powerful motivator for him & costs the school nothing.

Tonya

Re: Help!

Hi Doris,

I hope someone has suggestions for you, as I may use them myself. I

have a 12 year old who has decided he isn't going to work at school

and is shutting down in classes (regular ed classrooms). He then

refuses to go out with the teacher, dean, or anyone else. So he is

coming home with hours of homework from all the work he didn't get

done in classes, and we have it piling up at home. I have tried

removing his Nintendo DS privileges but then he goes in his bedroom

and reads. He said last night " ...then I'll just quit school " , which

really sent me into fits as I think he really does believe school has

no purpose!

He does have a BIP and FBA but I just can't seem to impress on him at

home how what he does at school directly effects how much free time

he has at home. I can't take this, every night is consumed with

homework until I have to throw a dinner together, and this is after

sub teaching all day.

Help, for any suggestions!

>

> My 12 year old has gotten pretty mouthy. When I ask him to do

something, he replies, " You know that I don't have to mind you! "

or " Make me! " I can't make him do anything and half of the time he

is doing what I asked as he is smarting off. The only effective

punishment I can mete out is to ground him from the computer.

>

> Any suggestions or ideas or help?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Doris M of OK

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

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What is the quickest way I can get shea butter, beeswax and lavender EO for

my hand creme? Who is the quickest to ship? I live in Central New York.

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Maggie, I'd go with our own Kae. Here is her site.

http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/catalog/

Maggie wrote:

I just found out I got in the biggest show I have ever applied for which

takes place in one week (I was wait listed and got the call tonight).

What is the quickest way I can get shea butter, beeswax and lavender EO

for my hand creme? Who is the quickest to ship? I live in Central New

York. Please help!

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Hi Maggie, Try The Scent Shack or Wholesale Supplies Plus they both ship super

fast.

Susie

Maggie <bundaflicka@...> wrote:

I just found out I got in the biggest show I have ever applied for

which takes place in one week (I was wait listed and got the call tonight). What

is the quickest way I can get shea butter, beeswax and lavender EO for my hand

creme? Who is the quickest to ship? I live in Central New York. Please help!

Maggie , Shepherd

Central New York, US

www.bundaflicka.blogspot.com

www.adoptalambny.blogspot.com

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Yup, that's it. Thanks, Gabby. I knew there was something about salt, LOL.

Beth

_www.soapandgarden.com_ (http://www.soapandgarden.com/)

Be good to your skin!

www.saponifier.com

In a message dated 4/26/2008 9:04:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

wakerens@... writes:

It is called Salt City Soapworks

<https://www.saltcitysoapworks.com/newshop/>

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It is called Salt City Soapworks

<https://www.saltcitysoapworks.com/newshop/>

I hope the link works!!

Gabby

>

> There's someone in Syracuse that sells soaping ingredients. Who is it,

> guys? I'm drawing a blank.

>

> Between them and Kae at _www.olivetreesoaps.com_

> (http://www.olivetreesoaps.com) , I think you'll be able to find

everything. :-)

>

> Beth

> _www.soapandgarden.com_ (http://www.soapandgarden.com/)

> Be good to your skin!

> www.saponifier.com

>

>

> In a message dated 4/25/2008 8:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> bundaflicka@... writes:

>

> What is the quickest way I can get shea butter, beeswax and lavender

EO for

> my hand creme? Who is the quickest to ship? I live in Central New

York.

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S.

used car

> listings at AOL Autos.

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

>

>

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