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Good point. I'm a horrible liar though. I'm hoping that, and

spending 1000 dollars will be enough.

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> ,

>

> If you are non committal to yourself, as far as the eating goes,

then what is to keep you from fibbing to this guy if you get off

track?

>

> C

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--- AAAHHH that is sooo much money. Just a thought, How would it

be if you eased up a bit on yourself. Instead of hurrying to lose the

last ten, maybe take a break for a month and maintain where you are.

You are punishing yourself, which isn't worth it. Maybe ifyou take a

month off you will be in a head space where you are ready to tackle it

again. Keep working out, but maybe allow yourself some leway(sp) in

your eating.

In , " ekaraim

<cadchick@h...> " <cadchick@h...> wrote:

> Good point. I'm a horrible liar though. I'm hoping that, and

> spending 1000 dollars will be enough.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > If you are non committal to yourself, as far as the eating goes,

> then what is to keep you from fibbing to this guy if you get off

> track?

> >

> > C

> >

> >

> >

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Only you can make yourself commit to changing

your way of eating..A personal trainer can't

do that for you. You said that you barely miss

work outs, so what is the need for him then ??

He can't come home with you and tell you not to

eat badly. Were here to support you if that is

what you need. I personaly think anyone can do

BFL on their own. It just takes will power which

I know isn't easy. There are pleanty of wise woman

here that can help you with any question you have.

BFL will work for you if you let it !!!

Sheryll N.

> I need help! I have fallen on my butt so hard when it comes to

food,

> it's pathetic. I feel like the last 2 months has been a complete

> write-off for me. I have barely missed one gym appointment but am

> eating like a starved pig. And not good food either. I'm getting

> desperate. I'm looking at one expensive option to get myself back

on

> track, and that is hiring a personal trainer. This guy is good,

and

> I mean real good. I went to a presentation put on by him last

> weekend and he was so motivating! So I'm looking at $250 a month

> commiting to a 4 month period. Am I insane? He will design me an

> eating plan, track my progress, and scream at me when I screw

> up. ;) I feel like a shmuck for saying this is what I think I

need,

> shouldn't I already know all of this? I'm so sick of feeling

sorry

> for myself and making dumb excuses.

>

> Has anyone else been this desperate to spend this much money?

>

> BAH!

>

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I know, it is allot of money! Which is why I'm thinking this just

might work. I think my problem is I did take some time off, after

my first challenge (which ended in December) and I never really got

back on track with my food. I've been trying, but I'm making myself

insane obsessing about it. I keep hoping I'll be remotivated to eat

proper, but it never occurs. I always think, next meal I will not

eat crap, and for some stupid reason, I don't.

> --- AAAHHH that is sooo much money. Just a thought, How

would it

> be if you eased up a bit on yourself. Instead of hurrying to lose

the

> last ten, maybe take a break for a month and maintain where you

are.

> You are punishing yourself, which isn't worth it. Maybe ifyou

take a

> month off you will be in a head space where you are ready to

tackle it

> again. Keep working out, but maybe allow yourself some leway(sp)

in

> your eating.

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So, where is this crap you're eating coming from? Do you have it in

your house?

I've found that not only during the week, but even on free day, it's

practically impossible for me to eat bad because there's nothing bad

in the house!!! On free day, I actually have to go in search of it.

> I know, it is allot of money! Which is why I'm thinking this just

> might work. I think my problem is I did take some time off, after

> my first challenge (which ended in December) and I never really got

> back on track with my food. I've been trying, but I'm making

myself

> insane obsessing about it. I keep hoping I'll be remotivated to

eat

> proper, but it never occurs. I always think, next meal I will not

> eat crap, and for some stupid reason, I don't.

>

>

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That's what's messed up, I know it works! I lost 20 pounds with my

first challenge. I know what I have to do, I just can't seem to do

it. When I was 50 pounds over weight, it seemed easier. I had so

far to go, I couldn't afford to screw up. But now that I've lost

all the weight I originally set out to I want a hot body. I'm tired

of looking at this flabby, loose skin. I'm just sick of it. I've

been fighting this battle for over a year, and I need to do

something different. I think I'm just exhausted and burned out. My

brain can't handle this constant obsession over what's good and

what's bad for me. Maybe if I had a trainer lay it all out for me,

exactly what to eat, how much cardio and weights to do, I won't have

to think about it anymore. I know BFL does that, but my brain can't

even seem to handle that anymore. I'm just so emotionally

exhausted, I feel like crying as I right this. I know I can't have

someone tell me what to eat forever, 4 months will be all I can

afford anyways (haha) but I just want to look good.

> Only you can make yourself commit to changing

> your way of eating..A personal trainer can't

> do that for you. You said that you barely miss

> work outs, so what is the need for him then ??

> He can't come home with you and tell you not to

> eat badly. Were here to support you if that is

> what you need. I personaly think anyone can do

> BFL on their own. It just takes will power which

> I know isn't easy. There are pleanty of wise woman

> here that can help you with any question you have.

> BFL will work for you if you let it !!!

>

> Sheryll N.

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Sort of... My hubby isn't keen on that idea, he can eat everything and

anything and thinks not eating something is as simple as just not eating it.

He doesn't get it, no matter how much I talk to him about it. But then I

have to deal with my friends, muffins and donuts at the office, the gas

station, the corner store... etc. If I could lock myself in the bathroom,

I'd do great!

>

>Would it be possible for you to get rid of all the junk food in the house?

>

>C

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ARGH! I've tried to respond to this message 3 times, this better work.

I really like this idea! It's funny you mention it, because I am going away

on my own next Tuesday for a week. I'm going to take advantage of this time

to give myself a pampering, maybe I'll feel better about myself when I get

back. I'm not going to make any decision on the trainer until I get back.

>

>,

>

>I think for a grand I would go to a great weekend spa and collect myself,

>try to get a new set of goals and refresh, then start again. Just a

>thought.

>

>C

>

>

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It comes from everywhere. I just don't seem to have will power anymore.

>So, where is this crap you're eating coming from? Do you have it in your

>house?

>

>I've found that not only during the week, but even on free day, it's

>practically impossible for me to eat bad because there's nothing bad in the

>house!!! On free day, I actually have to go in search of it.

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It's not about willpower. Even if it were about willpower, that's not something

you can buy. Here's a big rambling re-post about a great book. You should try to

read it before you sign an expensive contract with a trainer. Paying somebody to

help you would be a total waste of money if you're not ready to change.

~~~

I found a really great book for BFLers struggling with motivation. It's called

" The Quest for Peace, Love and a 24 " Waist " by Deborah Low. She talks about

intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation. If you're extrinsically motivated, you're

focused on things outside of yourself - fitting into a certain pair of jeans,

looking great at a party. If you're intrinsically motivated, it's like when you

were playing your favorite game as a kid. It was rewarding on its own. It was

effortless. You were motivated by your own curiosity and excitement. She says

that as adults we still want that kind of effortlessness and passion in other

areas of our life - like weight loss!

She helps you find it through a series of written exercises that help you get

intrinsically motivated and discover your " soul food " (the emotional stuff

you're *really* craving when you start wolfing down cookies).

This woman is a personal trainer and a psychologist. She understands what makes

emotional eaters and failed dieters tick. She's not all foofy doofy stupid about

fitness and nutrition. She doesn't tell you to eat cookie dough to your heart's

content (...like someone who's name rhymes with Geneen Roth. LOL) She talks

about the importance of " high performance fuel " and getting enough protein. She

wants to challenge your beliefs, and help you see things more clearly. She has

lots of great written exercises. I've been doing them all and making these big

lists in my head.

She asks you to think about the times in your life when you felt carefree,

deeply connected, lost in the moment, energized, and happy to be alive. What

were you doing? To help you come up with ideas, she asks you to take a minute to

remember what you were doing when you last experienced each of the following

words:

freedom, excitement, joy, effortlessness, peace, gratitude, love, competence,

creativity, serenity, elation, empowerment, bliss, inspiration, connectedness,

happiness...

I went ahead and did it for every word. Trust me, sitting and thinking about

things like that shifts your whole focus. You start thinking in terms of how

your fitness program can help you be happy and live fully, not how you're going

to sacrifice and suffer. Cool stuff!

Here's a link to her web site http://deborahlow.com

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It comes from everywhere. I just don't seem to have will power anymore.

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Thanks . I bought that book awhile ago, and have read it

twice. Obviously, it's time to get it out again! I used to be

intrinsicly motivated, but somehow lost it along the way. I'm so

ready for *more* of a change, it's not even funny. Before, it was

about being healthy, I was worried about my health. Now it's gone

way beyond that. Fitness is a way of life for me, but now that's

not good enough. I *need* to look good in a bikini. I never

dreamed that would have been an option a year ago. Right now, it's

not a question as to if I can run a 10K and enjoy every second of

it. Right now, it's about how I look. I can't stand it and it

really bothers me. No one else gets it, my friends all say I look

great now, but they don't have to see me naked.

> It's not about willpower. Even if it were about willpower, that's

not something

> you can buy. Here's a big rambling re-post about a great book. You

should try to

> read it before you sign an expensive contract with a trainer.

Paying somebody to

> help you would be a total waste of money if you're not ready to

change.

>

> ~~~

> I found a really great book for BFLers struggling with motivation.

It's called

> " The Quest for Peace, Love and a 24 " Waist " by Deborah Low. She

talks about

> intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation. If you're extrinsically

motivated, you're

> focused on things outside of yourself - fitting into a certain

pair of jeans,

> looking great at a party. If you're intrinsically motivated, it's

like when you

> were playing your favorite game as a kid. It was rewarding on its

own. It was

> effortless. You were motivated by your own curiosity and

excitement. She says

> that as adults we still want that kind of effortlessness and

passion in other

> areas of our life - like weight loss!

>

> She helps you find it through a series of written exercises that

help you get

> intrinsically motivated and discover your " soul food " (the

emotional stuff

> you're *really* craving when you start wolfing down cookies).

>

> This woman is a personal trainer and a psychologist. She

understands what makes

> emotional eaters and failed dieters tick. She's not all foofy

doofy stupid about

> fitness and nutrition. She doesn't tell you to eat cookie dough to

your heart's

> content (...like someone who's name rhymes with Geneen Roth. LOL)

She talks

> about the importance of " high performance fuel " and getting enough

protein. She

> wants to challenge your beliefs, and help you see things more

clearly. She has

> lots of great written exercises. I've been doing them all and

making these big

> lists in my head.

>

> She asks you to think about the times in your life when you felt

carefree,

> deeply connected, lost in the moment, energized, and happy to be

alive. What

> were you doing? To help you come up with ideas, she asks you to

take a minute to

> remember what you were doing when you last experienced each of the

following

> words:

>

> freedom, excitement, joy, effortlessness, peace, gratitude, love,

competence,

> creativity, serenity, elation, empowerment, bliss, inspiration,

connectedness,

> happiness...

>

> I went ahead and did it for every word. Trust me, sitting and

thinking about

> things like that shifts your whole focus. You start thinking in

terms of how

> your fitness program can help you be happy and live fully, not how

you're going

> to sacrifice and suffer. Cool stuff!

>

> Here's a link to her web site http://deborahlow.com

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This is really good advice. I second it! I wished I had done this a

couple of years ago. Another friend gave me this advice. You will be

ready to start fresh in a month. Get your head clear and cut yourself

a small break. I have seen your pics and you look great! Sometimes we

go in this Sick Cycle Carousel round and round till we just don't

know where we are headed anymore on this program. I love this idea

below. I only wished I had done that!

Kathi (who's just another name)

In , lymanheather

<no_reply@y...> wrote:

> --- AAAHHH that is sooo much money. Just a thought, How would

it

> be if you eased up a bit on yourself. Instead of hurrying to lose

the

> last ten, maybe take a break for a month and maintain where you

are.

> You are punishing yourself, which isn't worth it. Maybe ifyou take

a

> month off you will be in a head space where you are ready to tackle

it

> again. Keep working out, but maybe allow yourself some leway(sp)

in

> your eating.

> In , " ekaraim

> <cadchick@h...> " <cadchick@h...> wrote:

> > Good point. I'm a horrible liar though. I'm hoping that, and

> > spending 1000 dollars will be enough.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > If you are non committal to yourself, as far as the eating

goes,

> > then what is to keep you from fibbing to this guy if you get off

> > track?

> > >

> > > C

> > >

> > >

> > >

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,

No matter what I do, how much diff diets or exercise plans I try, I

always always end up returning to the Body for Life plan. You have

done so good on this plan. You could just not take a chance and not

give your time and money to something you just don't know is gonna

work. YOu could just say hey! and go with what you do know has worked

for you in the past. You could like pretend you are starting over. I

mean try following it from the book again. Pretend your not a vetran

Bfler. Read the book again, make a new commitment, and see if that

helps. That is what I have ended up having to do this time around and

it is working for me. I guess it all comes down to getting back to

the real basics of this program. But if all else fails, do not tweak

your eating at all. Follow the eating the right way, takin your free

days if you want, watching your portions, but never cheating during

the week, and just change your workout plan. That could change things

up just enough. I highly believe if you are stuck in a rut you could

just change your workout plan, but for me, I must never change the

bfl eating. It has always backfired on me. I hope this helped a bit

or not just confused ya. Good luck with your choice. I still like the

take a break idea, although you said you already did that. But if you

are takin a break ready for a new fresh outlook on the program that

would be awesome!

Kathi (who's just another name)

- In , " ekaraim

<cadchick@h...> " <cadchick@h...> wrote:

> I know, it is allot of money! Which is why I'm thinking this just

> might work. I think my problem is I did take some time off, after

> my first challenge (which ended in December) and I never really got

> back on track with my food. I've been trying, but I'm making

myself

> insane obsessing about it. I keep hoping I'll be remotivated to

eat

> proper, but it never occurs. I always think, next meal I will not

> eat crap, and for some stupid reason, I don't.

>

>

>

>

> > --- AAAHHH that is sooo much money. Just a thought, How

> would it

> > be if you eased up a bit on yourself. Instead of hurrying to

lose

> the

> > last ten, maybe take a break for a month and maintain where you

> are.

> > You are punishing yourself, which isn't worth it. Maybe ifyou

> take a

> > month off you will be in a head space where you are ready to

> tackle it

> > again. Keep working out, but maybe allow yourself some leway(sp)

> in

> > your eating.

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Highly Agree!!!

Kathi (who's just another name)

Hey aren't you glad you clicked on this message so you could see 7

small words!

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<tinifer@s...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I think for a grand I would go to a great weekend spa and collect

myself, try to get a new set of goals and refresh, then start again.

Just a thought.

>

> C

>

>

>

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Me too, actually we have a tradition that we go shopping saturday

night for free day food. Normal bill is 30 dollars although it has

been less lately. My kids love free day. it has been our tradtion now

for 3 years mostly. In between me falling off the program and such.

Kathi (who's just another name)

You really can throw out your junk! Go ahead !! Yipee!!! Throwing

away junk!!!!

- In , " seattle_lady2003

<seattle_lady2003@y...> " <seattle_lady2003@y...> wrote:

> So, where is this crap you're eating coming from? Do you have it in

> your house?

>

> I've found that not only during the week, but even on free day,

it's

> practically impossible for me to eat bad because there's nothing

bad

> in the house!!! On free day, I actually have to go in search of it.

>

>

> > I know, it is allot of money! Which is why I'm thinking this

just

> > might work. I think my problem is I did take some time off,

after

> > my first challenge (which ended in December) and I never really

got

> > back on track with my food. I've been trying, but I'm making

> myself

> > insane obsessing about it. I keep hoping I'll be remotivated to

> eat

> > proper, but it never occurs. I always think, next meal I will

not

> > eat crap, and for some stupid reason, I don't.

> >

> >

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UMMMMM, I don't want a 24 inch waist right now. All is wish is for my

32 back. What the heck is 24? LIke size 2?

Kathi (who's just another name)

-- In , " Skwigg " <skwigg@k...>

wrote:

> It's not about willpower. Even if it were about willpower, that's

not something

> you can buy. Here's a big rambling re-post about a great book. You

should try to

> read it before you sign an expensive contract with a trainer.

Paying somebody to

> help you would be a total waste of money if you're not ready to

change.

>

> ~~~

> I found a really great book for BFLers struggling with motivation.

It's called

> " The Quest for Peace, Love and a 24 " Waist " by Deborah Low. She

talks about

> intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation. If you're extrinsically

motivated, you're

> focused on things outside of yourself - fitting into a certain pair

of jeans,

> looking great at a party. If you're intrinsically motivated, it's

like when you

> were playing your favorite game as a kid. It was rewarding on its

own. It was

> effortless. You were motivated by your own curiosity and

excitement. She says

> that as adults we still want that kind of effortlessness and

passion in other

> areas of our life - like weight loss!

>

> She helps you find it through a series of written exercises that

help you get

> intrinsically motivated and discover your " soul food " (the

emotional stuff

> you're *really* craving when you start wolfing down cookies).

>

> This woman is a personal trainer and a psychologist. She

understands what makes

> emotional eaters and failed dieters tick. She's not all foofy doofy

stupid about

> fitness and nutrition. She doesn't tell you to eat cookie dough to

your heart's

> content (...like someone who's name rhymes with Geneen Roth. LOL)

She talks

> about the importance of " high performance fuel " and getting enough

protein. She

> wants to challenge your beliefs, and help you see things more

clearly. She has

> lots of great written exercises. I've been doing them all and

making these big

> lists in my head.

>

> She asks you to think about the times in your life when you felt

carefree,

> deeply connected, lost in the moment, energized, and happy to be

alive. What

> were you doing? To help you come up with ideas, she asks you to

take a minute to

> remember what you were doing when you last experienced each of the

following

> words:

>

> freedom, excitement, joy, effortlessness, peace, gratitude, love,

competence,

> creativity, serenity, elation, empowerment, bliss, inspiration,

connectedness,

> happiness...

>

> I went ahead and did it for every word. Trust me, sitting and

thinking about

> things like that shifts your whole focus. You start thinking in

terms of how

> your fitness program can help you be happy and live fully, not how

you're going

> to sacrifice and suffer. Cool stuff!

>

> Here's a link to her web site http://deborahlow.com

>

>

>

>

> Re: Help!

>

>

> It comes from everywhere. I just don't seem to have will power

anymore.

>

>

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Thanks Kathi. :)

> ---

>

> This is really good advice. I second it! I wished I had done this a

> couple of years ago. Another friend gave me this advice. You will

be

> ready to start fresh in a month. Get your head clear and cut

yourself

> a small break. I have seen your pics and you look great! Sometimes

we

> go in this Sick Cycle Carousel round and round till we just don't

> know where we are headed anymore on this program. I love this idea

> below. I only wished I had done that!

> Kathi (who's just another name)

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Thanks Kathi. I know what I have to do, quit being such a whiner and

get my ass back on track. I really have to get back to the BFL way

of eating because it does work. And I have to QUIT WHINING AND DO

IT!

> --

> ,

> No matter what I do, how much diff diets or exercise plans I try, I

> always always end up returning to the Body for Life plan. You have

> done so good on this plan. You could just not take a chance and not

> give your time and money to something you just don't know is gonna

> work. YOu could just say hey! and go with what you do know has

worked

> for you in the past. You could like pretend you are starting over.

I

> mean try following it from the book again. Pretend your not a

vetran

> Bfler. Read the book again, make a new commitment, and see if that

> helps. That is what I have ended up having to do this time around

and

> it is working for me. I guess it all comes down to getting back to

> the real basics of this program. But if all else fails, do not

tweak

> your eating at all. Follow the eating the right way, takin your

free

> days if you want, watching your portions, but never cheating during

> the week, and just change your workout plan. That could change

things

> up just enough. I highly believe if you are stuck in a rut you

could

> just change your workout plan, but for me, I must never change the

> bfl eating. It has always backfired on me. I hope this helped a bit

> or not just confused ya. Good luck with your choice. I still like

the

> take a break idea, although you said you already did that. But if

you

> are takin a break ready for a new fresh outlook on the program that

> would be awesome!

> Kathi (who's just another name)

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Hi

Aldo - what do you want to know about the historical aspects of health visiting. It is fascinating. Also the archives for the HVA are at the Welcome Institute and can tell you a great deal.

Can talk you through lots - give me ring either on my mobile 07721 891 397 or my home/work number in the evening 01252 681 513.

Regards

Margaret

Dr of Health Visiting - Scholarships

Totally agree with June, when I was a lecturer/course leader for the health visitor course at Liverpool University I tried my very best to produce students who were not affraid to challenge the establishment and hope that I had a degree of success. As regards the CPHVA (of which I am a reluctant member and only enjoy receiving the journal if I am honest) silence means NO.

On a more positive note. I am currently undertaking a three year 'Doctorate in Health Visiting (Public Health)' at the University of Essex having been successful in changing the course titile from Dr of Nursing to Dr of Helath Visiting (Public Health) thus defending the health visiting corner and playing my part in keeping the health visiting title alive.

For anyone interested in starting their Dr of Health Visiting (Public Health) at the University of Essex this year, they are currently accepting applications for scholarships. Go on to their website http://www.essex.ac.uk or feel free to contact me if anybody wants to ask any questions about the course.

Aldo

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-----Original Message-----From: junet579@... [mailto:junet579@...]Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: Re: agenda for change, you have just voiced what I have periodic fits of depression about, and which has surfaced again recently, as a colleague has just retired. It is expected that she will be replaced by a newly qualified HV, but what depresses me is that new HVs like so many 'old ones' appear to be so unpolitical/nonspunky, unradical/passive, call it what you will, about the way health visiting is changing for the worse. Or to put it another way, they don't come into the profession and make 'waves' anymore. Or am I maligning new Hvs I have also been reading with interest the comments from Margaret, et al re the way the CPHVA is so unsupportive , and have been waiting for someone from the CPHVA to reply along the lines: 'we're still with health visitors and will fight for your status, paygrading, etc, all the way.' Sadly, the silence from the CPHVA is deafening, and perhaps says it all. June T

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Have they tried a Phenergan suppository for ? That way, he could

keep fluids down and possibly avoid dehydration. My prayers will be with you

guys. Please let us know what's going on.

Sandi

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Aye yi yi!!! Don't have a clue about what that could be so I'm not much help but

wanted you to know that I am praying for !!! Please keep us posted on how

he is doing!!

Diane, Mom to Kody

help!

Thisafternoon began screaming with abdominal pain, drawing knees up,

very distressed. Nothing I tried helped so I called ur doctors office and told

them I was on my way. Got to the car and he vomitted without warning. It

seemed top ease the severe pain. Drowsy in car, but by the time we were in the

office the pain had built again and another vomit followed. I was told he was

so white he was glowing. Dr decided either gastro virus or early appendicitis.

Bought him home with a few stops on the way (thankgoodness for the bucket I'd

thought to bring) and the pain/vomit cycle continued every 15 minutes from there

until he fell asleep at 8.15 pm. Two and a half hours into being home from

the doctors, and 9 vomits later little round dark brown/black balls appeared

with a vomit, and they have not stopped since. I am familiar with coffee

grounds in vomit but these look like poppy seed, some tiny. but none bigger than

a real poppy seed like you see on bread rolls. By 6.30 the vomitting was

still every 15 minutes and was beginning to develop light sensitivity,

so I took him down to our local drs rooms, along with a sample of the 'poppy

seeds' I had collected an kept from one of the vommits. The dr was baffled with

these, said a number of things spring to mind but they are so rare. He has sent

them off to pathology for identification, I saw the query on the form

'gallstones?'. Has anyone heard of or dealt with vomitting gallstones??????

Although is vomiting as much water as he is drinking, he is still not

dehydrated enough that he needs to be admitted. I expect we wont be able to

avoid that if he continues waking in his sleep, although he has gone down to

hourly vomits now that he has fallen asleep for the night, I am hoping to not

have to go in to hospital for rehydration, although the pathology results may

see him admitted anyhow. To make matters worse, the severe croup of last week

which activated severe asthma and then progressed to LRI over the weekend has

not cleared well after 5 days of Augmentin. I was told tonight the right lobe

was very bad and will be having an xray first thing in the am to access.

The dr was concerned perhaps the particles were due to aspiration somehow

although I'm not sure where he was going with that.

Sorry to have been absent so long. I know I have alot of catching up to do.

Thanks for any wise words you can pass my way,

, mum to (7) and (5) both with pids and various other

complications.

PS It seems s' chronic abdominal problems may be due to 'chronic

intestinal pseudo-obstruction', but we have not had the diagnosis confirmed yet.

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With the paleness and the dark colored things in the vomit, could that be

some sort of dried blood? I worry about a GI bleed.

Sending prayers your way -- please let us know what pathology shows. Take

care --

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02, dairy intolerant; and , age 4, dairy

intolerant -- currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had

transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs)

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