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Deedee,Your first email was rather rude to those who initially posted the info, believing it to be true. As for what I'm scared of....... not birdmites; they can run all over me & never bite me. I care about my mother & some other dear people I have got to know while trying to help my mother. I suppose I am maybe more sensitive than necessary to those who might be hurt by unsympathetic cover. As I said I have no television & have not had one for most of my adult life. As for others....of course, they must do whatever they want.

KrysOn 13 January 2012 21:50, deedee <hair2cut00@...> wrote:

 

i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me????? been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for answers......

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting show on

> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people

> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show

> > then let me know...

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

>

> I keep six honest serving-men

> (They taught me all I knew);

> Their names are What and Why and When

> And How and Where and Who.

>

> *Rudyard Kipling*

>

--

I met a traveller from an antique land

Who said: two vast and trunkless legs of stone

Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,

half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown

And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command

Tell that its sculptor well those passions read

Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed;

And on the pedestal these words appear

" My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair! "

Nothing beside remains. Round the decayOf that colossal wreck, boundless and bare

The lone and level sands stretch far away. Ozymandias ~

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So many of these programmes are sensationalist

They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the problem

Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for the

cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

So the mite free can say..

Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

Or even worse....

That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

Etc etc

I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

So I said...

Have u looked it up in internet?

Do u know how awful this is?

Not just for me

But for many others!!!

She hadnt even looked it up

But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

Make us feel further alienated

And misunderstood

Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n far

between in this harsh world we live in!

We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

We have suffered enough!!!!

C

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>

>i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to hear is 1

on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what i hear because

maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me????? been through all that

crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for answers......

>

>>

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting show on

>> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people

>> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show

>> > then let me know...

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> I keep six honest serving-men

>> (They taught me all I knew);

>> Their names are What and Why and When

>> And How and Where and Who.

>>

>> *Rudyard Kipling*

>>

>

>

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DeeDee,

I think what Krys means by saying the program might hurt rather than help (correct me Krys if I'm wrong), is that it might portray those of us infested as " crazies. "  

I highly doubt you would get ANY helpful info from a t.v. show.  In fact, this group has the most helpful up to date info you can find...since we're all experiencing it.

In fact,  from reading all of the emails, we could probably put out a better show than anyone.

We are here to help...not hurt.

E

On Jan 14, 2012 5:53 AM, " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

 

So many of these programmes are sensationalist

They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the problem

Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

So the mite free can say..

Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

Or even worse....

That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

Etc etc

I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

So I said...

Have u looked it up in internet?

Do u know how awful this is?

Not just for me

But for many others!!!

She hadnt even looked it up

But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

Make us feel further alienated

And misunderstood

Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n far between in this harsh world we live in!

We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

We have suffered enough!!!!

C

------------------------------On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:>>i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not...>> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting show on

>> > ticks recluse s...>> -- >> >> I keep six honest serving-men>> (They taught me all I knew);>> Their names are What ...

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I thought the show would give some validation to the problem, even if people with this problem become somewhat obsessive. The obsession comes as a result of the insidiousness... because the mites in early stages are so difficult to see, because they leave a trail of fungus and bring us bacterias and parasites. My brother was looking forward to seeing the show too. He believes me. From: "Laurel" <l.santi@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:07:29 AMSubject: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sentAfter watching the trailer link, I will have to agree with you Krys. I was disappointed, but wanting to watch with my husband for validation since I'm not sure he believed me. You are right he probably would have latched onto the obsession part and I still wouldn't have the validation I'm looking for.> > > **> >> >> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting show on> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show> > then let me know...> >> > > >> > > > -- > > I keep six honest serving-men> (They taught me all I knew);> Their names are What and Why and When> And How and Where and Who.> > *Rudyard Kipling*>------------------------------------

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I agree.  I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal Planet producers.  We are human beings with feelings who have lost possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us. 

 

Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

 

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

 

So many of these programmes are sensationalistThey dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the problemOften these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

So the mite free can say..Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!Or even worse....That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ottEtc etcI agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

So I said...Have u looked it up in internet?Do u know how awful this is?Not just for meBut for many others!!!She hadnt even looked it upBut assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

People can be reactionary about things they dont understand They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our causeMake us feel further alienated

And misunderstoodIntelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n far between in this harsh world we live in!We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!We have suffered enough!!!!

C--------------------------->>i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me????? been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for answers......

>>> >> > **>> >>> >

>> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting show on>> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people>> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show

>> > then let me know...>> >>> > >> >>> >> >>

>> -- >> >> I keep six honest serving-men>> (They taught me all I knew);>> Their names are What and Why and When>> And How and Where and Who.>>

>> *Rudyard Kipling*>>>>

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Elissa

Thanks for herb info the other day

I take some of the supplements already

Started on samento cats claw today

If doesmt help will go down doxy route in a month

Best wishes

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 07:55 PST Elissa wrote:

>DeeDee,

>

>I think what Krys means by saying the program might hurt rather than help

>(correct me Krys if I'm wrong), is that it might portray those of us

>infested as " crazies. "

>

>I highly doubt you would get ANY helpful info from a t.v. show. In fact,

>this group has the most helpful up to date info you can find...since we're

>all experiencing it.

>

>In fact, from reading all of the emails, we could probably put out a

>better show than anyone.

>

>We are here to help...not hurt.

>

>E

>

>On Jan 14, 2012 5:53 AM, " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>**

>

>

>

>So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>problem

>Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>So the mite free can say..

>Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>Or even worse....

>That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>Etc etc

>I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>So I said...

>Have u looked it up in internet?

>Do u know how awful this is?

>Not just for me

>But for many others!!!

>She hadnt even looked it up

>But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>Make us feel further alienated

>And misunderstood

>Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>far between in this harsh world we live in!

>We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>We have suffered enough!!!!

>C

>

>------------------------------

>

>

>On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>

>>

>>i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not...

>

>> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>show on

>> > ticks recluse s...

>

>> --

>>

>> I keep six honest serving-men

>> (They taught me all I knew);

>> Their names are What ...

>

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Yes teresa

This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

A friend says she scared to hug me

Fair enough but hurts!

Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

I said ...

I dont need a doctor to tell me

I will know when my body has healed!

I got told....

Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

I was furious

He said it was a joke

But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

Im sick of people makin comments

When I still am bitten

Crawly itch

Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

People dont have a clue!!!

Ur life gets taken away!:-(

Its hard

N yeah we fight

N we woll continue to fight

But its very lonely

N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

Lots of love to everyone suffering this

From

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>

>Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>

>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> problem

>> Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> So the mite free can say..

>> Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> Or even worse....

>> That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> Etc etc

>> I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> So I said...

>> Have u looked it up in internet?

>> Do u know how awful this is?

>> Not just for me

>> But for many others!!!

>> She hadnt even looked it up

>> But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> Make us feel further alienated

>> And misunderstood

>> Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> We have suffered enough!!!!

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what

>> i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for

>> answers......

>> >

>> >

>> > > **

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> show on

>> > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> people

>> > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> show

>> > > then let me know...

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > And How and Where and Who.

>> >

>> > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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Yes C, it is hard to be Poppins.  I have heard the same comments over the last 8 months.  For instance, last summer my neighbor told me " You don't have any mites in your house or car --  (I was just about suicidal at the time). 

My sister-in-law said " You don't have any mites and I'm going to give you a big hug to show you that I'm not afraid. "   My supervisor asked me to show her my bites -- I told her " I dont have any now. "   I only had visible bites b4 I threw out the mattress and b4 I started spraying the sofa. 

My mother tells me " You just need to get that out of your head. "   So no one in my life anyway tries to understand except for those on this forum.  I still haven't gotten used to that but I'm trying. 

Yes, it is lonely and difficult.  I thank God again for the people on this forum.   Switching gears, I need to change my on-line ID too to remain anonymous.  Did you go under and get a new one?  Can you call me " T " from here on out?  Thanks. 

    On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

 

Yes teresa

This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

A friend says she scared to hug me

Fair enough but hurts!

Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

I said ...

I dont need a doctor to tell me

I will know when my body has healed!

I got told....

Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

I was furious

He said it was a joke

But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

Im sick of people makin comments

When I still am bitten

Crawly itch

Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

People dont have a clue!!!

Ur life gets taken away!:-(

Its hard

N yeah we fight

N we woll continue to fight

But its very lonely

N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

Lots of love to everyone suffering this

From

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>

>Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>

>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> problem

>> Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> So the mite free can say..

>> Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> Or even worse....

>> That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> Etc etc

>> I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> So I said...

>> Have u looked it up in internet?

>> Do u know how awful this is?

>> Not just for me

>> But for many others!!!

>> She hadnt even looked it up

>> But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> Make us feel further alienated

>> And misunderstood

>> Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> We have suffered enough!!!!

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what

>> i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for

>> answers......

>> >

>> >

>> > > **

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> show on

>> > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> people

>> > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> show

>> > > then let me know...

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > And How and Where and Who.

>> >

>> > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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It realy helps to be understood by the folk on here,then we are not alone in our

suffering.

Also it so important that folk been.healed n.give excelent advice,to help others

thru.the same hell they travelled through!

We will get better teresa

I only started to.think that a few days ago

Its because for the first time since this started in june

The crawly sensation a lil bit beter on my thighs tho still itchy n bites

But glad c some improvement

The

Sulphur soap left on patted dry

Scrub before wi epsom salts or bicarb

Then put a cocktail of apple cider vinegar,neem oil,tea

tree,rosemary,eucalyptus,lavender and clove mixed wi water on my body,n hair,

Pat dry

It helps

Also burn menthol crystals every evening now

Just started samento

So will see if helps

Does anyone have experience with any of the internal herbs for lyme

Oxyclear in wash

Dettol in home

Bit by bit

Only couple days more hopeful

Its a war

Weve got to win!!!!

Yes make new account

N change wi birdmite.org

It helps me feel less vulnerable bein anonymous

You are goin thru a hell o a lot too

Tc

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 15:45 PST wrote:

>Yes C, it is hard to be Poppins. I have heard the same comments over

>the last 8 months.

>For instance, last summer my neighbor told me " You don't have any mites in

>your house or car -- (I was just about suicidal at the time).

>My sister-in-law said " You don't have any mites and I'm going to give you a

>big hug to show you that I'm not afraid. "

>My supervisor asked me to show her my bites -- I told her " I dont have any

>now. " I only had visible bites b4 I threw out the mattress and b4 I

>started spraying the sofa.

>My mother tells me " You just need to get that out of your head. "

>So no one in my life anyway tries to understand except for those on this

>forum. I still haven't gotten used to that but I'm trying.

>Yes, it is lonely and difficult.

>I thank God again for the people on this forum.

>

>Switching gears, I need to change my on-line ID too to remain anonymous.

>Did you go under and get a new one? Can you call me " T " from here on

>out? Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> Yes teresa

>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

>> A friend says she scared to hug me

>> Fair enough but hurts!

>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

>> I said ...

>> I dont need a doctor to tell me

>> I will know when my body has healed!

>> I got told....

>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

>>

>> I was furious

>> He said it was a joke

>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

>> Im sick of people makin comments

>> When I still am bitten

>> Crawly itch

>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

>> People dont have a clue!!!

>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(

>> Its hard

>> N yeah we fight

>> N we woll continue to fight

>> But its very lonely

>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

>> Lots of love to everyone suffering this

>> From

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>>

>> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>> >

>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>> >

>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...

>> >wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> > problem

>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but

>> for

>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> > So the mite free can say..

>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> > Or even worse....

>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> > Etc etc

>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> > So I said...

>> > Have u looked it up in internet?

>> > Do u know how awful this is?

>> > Not just for me

>> > But for many others!!!

>> > She hadnt even looked it up

>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> > Make us feel further alienated

>> > And misunderstood

>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is

>> few n

>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> > We have suffered enough!!!!

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> >

>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care

>> what

>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking

>> for

>> > answers......

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > > **

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> > show on

>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> > people

>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> > show

>> > > > then let me know...

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > >

>> > > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > > And How and Where and Who.

>> > >

>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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Sorry!!!

Your name is now t.

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 15:45 PST wrote:

>Yes C, it is hard to be Poppins. I have heard the same comments over

>the last 8 months.

>For instance, last summer my neighbor told me " You don't have any mites in

>your house or car -- (I was just about suicidal at the time).

>My sister-in-law said " You don't have any mites and I'm going to give you a

>big hug to show you that I'm not afraid. "

>My supervisor asked me to show her my bites -- I told her " I dont have any

>now. " I only had visible bites b4 I threw out the mattress and b4 I

>started spraying the sofa.

>My mother tells me " You just need to get that out of your head. "

>So no one in my life anyway tries to understand except for those on this

>forum. I still haven't gotten used to that but I'm trying.

>Yes, it is lonely and difficult.

>I thank God again for the people on this forum.

>

>Switching gears, I need to change my on-line ID too to remain anonymous.

>Did you go under and get a new one? Can you call me " T " from here on

>out? Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> Yes teresa

>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

>> A friend says she scared to hug me

>> Fair enough but hurts!

>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

>> I said ...

>> I dont need a doctor to tell me

>> I will know when my body has healed!

>> I got told....

>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

>>

>> I was furious

>> He said it was a joke

>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

>> Im sick of people makin comments

>> When I still am bitten

>> Crawly itch

>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

>> People dont have a clue!!!

>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(

>> Its hard

>> N yeah we fight

>> N we woll continue to fight

>> But its very lonely

>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

>> Lots of love to everyone suffering this

>> From

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>>

>> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>> >

>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>> >

>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...

>> >wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> > problem

>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but

>> for

>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> > So the mite free can say..

>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> > Or even worse....

>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> > Etc etc

>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> > So I said...

>> > Have u looked it up in internet?

>> > Do u know how awful this is?

>> > Not just for me

>> > But for many others!!!

>> > She hadnt even looked it up

>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> > Make us feel further alienated

>> > And misunderstood

>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is

>> few n

>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> > We have suffered enough!!!!

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> >

>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care

>> what

>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking

>> for

>> > answers......

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > > **

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> > show on

>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> > people

>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> > show

>> > > > then let me know...

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > >

>> > > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > > And How and Where and Who.

>> > >

>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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Very well said!AaOn Jan 14, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

So many of these programmes are sensationalist

They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the problem

Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

So the mite free can say..

Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

Or even worse....

That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

Etc etc

I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

So I said...

Have u looked it up in internet?

Do u know how awful this is?

Not just for me

But for many others!!!

She hadnt even looked it up

But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

Make us feel further alienated

And misunderstood

Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n far between in this harsh world we live in!

We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

We have suffered enough!!!!

C

------------------------------

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>

>i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me????? been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for answers......

>

>>

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting show on

>> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people

>> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show

>> > then let me know...

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> I keep six honest serving-men

>> (They taught me all I knew);

>> Their names are What and Why and When

>> And How and Where and Who.

>>

>> *Rudyard Kipling*

>>

>

>

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Along with the infestation issue that already made me crazy, Lyme infects the brain very quickly and causes obsessive thinking, anxiety, Lyme rage, even paranoia which I dealt with all of it!AandrayaOn Jan 14, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I thought the show would give some validation to the problem, even if people with this problem become somewhat obsessive. The obsession comes as a result of the insidiousness... because the mites in early stages are so difficult to see, because they leave a trail of fungus and bring us bacterias and parasites. My brother was looking forward to seeing the show too. He believes me. From: "Laurel" <l.santi@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:07:29 AMSubject: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sentAfter watching the trailer link, I will have to agree with you Krys. I was disappointed, but wanting to watch with my husband for validation since I'm not sure he believed me. You are right he probably would have latched onto the obsession part and I still

wouldn't have the validation I'm looking for.> > > **> >> >> > There was absolutely nothing on

bird mites, but was an interesting show on> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show> > then let me know...> >> > > >> > > > -- > > I keep six honest serving-men> (They taught me all I knew);> Their names are What and Why and When> And How and Where and Who.> > *Rudyard Kipling*>------------------------------------

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Take the Samento in high doses.AandrayaOn Jan 14, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Elissa

Thanks for herb info the other day

I take some of the supplements already

Started on samento cats claw today

If doesmt help will go down doxy route in a month

Best wishes

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 07:55 PST Elissa wrote:

>DeeDee,

>

>I think what Krys means by saying the program might hurt rather than help

>(correct me Krys if I'm wrong), is that it might portray those of us

>infested as "crazies."

>

>I highly doubt you would get ANY helpful info from a t.v. show. In fact,

>this group has the most helpful up to date info you can find...since we're

>all experiencing it.

>

>In fact, from reading all of the emails, we could probably put out a

>better show than anyone.

>

>We are here to help...not hurt.

>

>E

>

>On Jan 14, 2012 5:53 AM, "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>**

>

>

>

>So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>problem

>Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>So the mite free can say..

>Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>Or even worse....

>That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>Etc etc

>I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>So I said...

>Have u looked it up in internet?

>Do u know how awful this is?

>Not just for me

>But for many others!!!

>She hadnt even looked it up

>But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>Make us feel further alienated

>And misunderstood

>Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>far between in this harsh world we live in!

>We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>We have suffered enough!!!!

>C

>

>------------------------------

>

>

>On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>

>>

>>i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not...

>

>> > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>show on

>> > ticks recluse s...

>

>> --

>>

>> I keep six honest serving-men

>> (They taught me all I knew);

>> Their names are What ...

>

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C-You are not contagious. Trust me on that. I did think the same though so I do get it.AaOn Jan 14, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes teresa

This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

A friend says she scared to hug me

Fair enough but hurts!

Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

I said ...

I dont need a doctor to tell me

I will know when my body has healed!

I got told....

Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

I was furious

He said it was a joke

But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

Im sick of people makin comments

When I still am bitten

Crawly itch

Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

People dont have a clue!!!

Ur life gets taken away!:-(

Its hard

N yeah we fight

N we woll continue to fight

But its very lonely

N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

Lots of love to everyone suffering this

From

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>

>Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>

>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> problem

>> Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> So the mite free can say..

>> Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> Or even worse....

>> That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> Etc etc

>> I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> So I said...

>> Have u looked it up in internet?

>> Do u know how awful this is?

>> Not just for me

>> But for many others!!!

>> She hadnt even looked it up

>> But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> Make us feel further alienated

>> And misunderstood

>> Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> We have suffered enough!!!!

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what

>> i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for

>> answers......

>> >

>> >

>> > > **

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> show on

>> > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> people

>> > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> show

>> > > then let me know...

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > And How and Where and Who.

>> >

>> > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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C-Check out Harrod Buhner, master herbalist and knows which herbs heal Lyme. I'll look for his website, I think it's PlanetThriiive. Samento is a good start. You also need artemisinin, Allergy Resource Group has a good product.AandrayaOn Jan 15, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

It realy helps to be understood by the folk on here,then we are not alone in our suffering.

Also it so important that folk been.healed n.give excelent advice,to help others thru.the same hell they travelled through!

We will get better teresa

I only started to.think that a few days ago

Its because for the first time since this started in june

The crawly sensation a lil bit beter on my thighs tho still itchy n bites

But glad c some improvement

The

Sulphur soap left on patted dry

Scrub before wi epsom salts or bicarb

Then put a cocktail of apple cider vinegar,neem oil,tea tree,rosemary,eucalyptus,lavender and clove mixed wi water on my body,n hair,

Pat dry

It helps

Also burn menthol crystals every evening now

Just started samento

So will see if helps

Does anyone have experience with any of the internal herbs for lyme

Oxyclear in wash

Dettol in home

Bit by bit

Only couple days more hopeful

Its a war

Weve got to win!!!!

Yes make new account

N change wi birdmite.org

It helps me feel less vulnerable bein anonymous

You are goin thru a hell o a lot too

Tc

C

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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 15:45 PST wrote:

>Yes C, it is hard to be Poppins. I have heard the same comments over

>the last 8 months.

>For instance, last summer my neighbor told me "You don't have any mites in

>your house or car -- (I was just about suicidal at the time).

>My sister-in-law said "You don't have any mites and I'm going to give you a

>big hug to show you that I'm not afraid."

>My supervisor asked me to show her my bites -- I told her "I dont have any

>now." I only had visible bites b4 I threw out the mattress and b4 I

>started spraying the sofa.

>My mother tells me "You just need to get that out of your head."

>So no one in my life anyway tries to understand except for those on this

>forum. I still haven't gotten used to that but I'm trying.

>Yes, it is lonely and difficult.

>I thank God again for the people on this forum.

>

>Switching gears, I need to change my on-line ID too to remain anonymous.

>Did you go under and get a new one? Can you call me "T" from here on

>out? Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> Yes teresa

>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

>> A friend says she scared to hug me

>> Fair enough but hurts!

>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

>> I said ...

>> I dont need a doctor to tell me

>> I will know when my body has healed!

>> I got told....

>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

>>

>> I was furious

>> He said it was a joke

>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

>> Im sick of people makin comments

>> When I still am bitten

>> Crawly itch

>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

>> People dont have a clue!!!

>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(

>> Its hard

>> N yeah we fight

>> N we woll continue to fight

>> But its very lonely

>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

>> Lots of love to everyone suffering this

>> From

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>>

>> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>> >

>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>> >

>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...

>> >wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> > problem

>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but

>> for

>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> > So the mite free can say..

>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> > Or even worse....

>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> > Etc etc

>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> > So I said...

>> > Have u looked it up in internet?

>> > Do u know how awful this is?

>> > Not just for me

>> > But for many others!!!

>> > She hadnt even looked it up

>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> > Make us feel further alienated

>> > And misunderstood

>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is

>> few n

>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> > We have suffered enough!!!!

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> >

>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care

>> what

>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking

>> for

>> > answers......

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > > **

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> > show on

>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> > people

>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> > show

>> > > > then let me know...

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > >

>> > > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > > And How and Where and Who.

>> > >

>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

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Hi aandraya

Boy you know your stuff!:-)

Well ive started with one drop three times a day ,then two then three

Was going to go up to fifeteen a day three times a day

Would that be enough?

And should I add any other herb or alternate with another?

How long would you suggest I do this to give a try?

If doesnt help will have to go on doxycycline but would rather take herbs as

antibiotics have never agreed with me.

Thanks

C

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 21:31 PST Aandraya wrote:

>Take the Samento in high doses.

>Aandraya

>

>

>

>On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Elissa

>> Thanks for herb info the other day

>> I take some of the supplements already

>> Started on samento cats claw today

>> If doesmt help will go down doxy route in a month

>> Best wishes

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 07:55 PST Elissa wrote:

>>

>> >DeeDee,

>> >

>> >I think what Krys means by saying the program might hurt rather than help

>> >(correct me Krys if I'm wrong), is that it might portray those of us

>> >infested as " crazies. "

>> >

>> >I highly doubt you would get ANY helpful info from a t.v. show. In fact,

>> >this group has the most helpful up to date info you can find...since we're

>> >all experiencing it.

>> >

>> >In fact, from reading all of the emails, we could probably put out a

>> >better show than anyone.

>> >

>> >We are here to help...not hurt.

>> >

>> >E

>> >

>> >On Jan 14, 2012 5:53 AM, " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>> >

>> >**

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> >They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> >problem

>> >Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> >the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> >So the mite free can say..

>> >Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> >Or even worse....

>> >That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> >Etc etc

>> >I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> >My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> >So I said...

>> >Have u looked it up in internet?

>> >Do u know how awful this is?

>> >Not just for me

>> >But for many others!!!

>> >She hadnt even looked it up

>> >But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> >People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> >They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> >Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> >Make us feel further alienated

>> >And misunderstood

>> >Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> >far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> >We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> >We have suffered enough!!!!

>> >C

>> >

>> >------------------------------

>> >

>> >

>> >On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not...

>> >

>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> >show on

>> > > ticks recluse s...

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > Their names are What ...

>> >

>>

>>

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You can go up to 30 drops 3 x a day. The herbs actually work really well with abx like Doxy. Give it a couple months. Another really great herb is Cryptolepis, kind of hard to get sometimes, it comes from Ghana. You could also try Banderol.Do you get the sweats? Have balance or auditory symptoms- ear ringing for example. Babesia. Then Artemisinin (from artemisia annua) is a must. As well as cryptolepis- treats bartonella and babesia and others.AandrayaOn Jan 16, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Hi aandraya

Boy you know your stuff!:-)

Well ive started with one drop three times a day ,then two then three

Was going to go up to fifeteen a day three times a day

Would that be enough?

And should I add any other herb or alternate with another?

How long would you suggest I do this to give a try?

If doesnt help will have to go on doxycycline but would rather take herbs as antibiotics have never agreed with me.

Thanks

C

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 21:31 PST Aandraya wrote:

>Take the Samento in high doses.

>Aandraya

>

>

>

>On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Elissa

>> Thanks for herb info the other day

>> I take some of the supplements already

>> Started on samento cats claw today

>> If doesmt help will go down doxy route in a month

>> Best wishes

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 07:55 PST Elissa wrote:

>>

>> >DeeDee,

>> >

>> >I think what Krys means by saying the program might hurt rather than help

>> >(correct me Krys if I'm wrong), is that it might portray those of us

>> >infested as "crazies."

>> >

>> >I highly doubt you would get ANY helpful info from a t.v. show. In fact,

>> >this group has the most helpful up to date info you can find...since we're

>> >all experiencing it.

>> >

>> >In fact, from reading all of the emails, we could probably put out a

>> >better show than anyone.

>> >

>> >We are here to help...not hurt.

>> >

>> >E

>> >

>> >On Jan 14, 2012 5:53 AM, "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>> >

>> >**

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> >They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> >problem

>> >Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> >the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> >So the mite free can say..

>> >Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> >Or even worse....

>> >That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> >Etc etc

>> >I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> >My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> >So I said...

>> >Have u looked it up in internet?

>> >Do u know how awful this is?

>> >Not just for me

>> >But for many others!!!

>> >She hadnt even looked it up

>> >But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> >People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> >They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> >Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> >Make us feel further alienated

>> >And misunderstood

>> >Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> >far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> >We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> >We have suffered enough!!!!

>> >C

>> >

>> >------------------------------

>> >

>> >

>> >On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not...

>> >

>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> >show on

>> > > ticks recluse s...

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > Their names are What ...

>> >

>>

>>

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Cryptolepis is 1 tsp 3 x a day- powerful stuff! In the U.S. Woodland Essence has it.AsOn Jan 16, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Hi aandraya

Boy you know your stuff!:-)

Well ive started with one drop three times a day ,then two then three

Was going to go up to fifeteen a day three times a day

Would that be enough?

And should I add any other herb or alternate with another?

How long would you suggest I do this to give a try?

If doesnt help will have to go on doxycycline but would rather take herbs as antibiotics have never agreed with me.

Thanks

C

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 21:31 PST Aandraya wrote:

>Take the Samento in high doses.

>Aandraya

>

>

>

>On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Elissa

>> Thanks for herb info the other day

>> I take some of the supplements already

>> Started on samento cats claw today

>> If doesmt help will go down doxy route in a month

>> Best wishes

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 07:55 PST Elissa wrote:

>>

>> >DeeDee,

>> >

>> >I think what Krys means by saying the program might hurt rather than help

>> >(correct me Krys if I'm wrong), is that it might portray those of us

>> >infested as "crazies."

>> >

>> >I highly doubt you would get ANY helpful info from a t.v. show. In fact,

>> >this group has the most helpful up to date info you can find...since we're

>> >all experiencing it.

>> >

>> >In fact, from reading all of the emails, we could probably put out a

>> >better show than anyone.

>> >

>> >We are here to help...not hurt.

>> >

>> >E

>> >

>> >On Jan 14, 2012 5:53 AM, "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>> >

>> >**

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> >They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> >problem

>> >Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> >the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> >So the mite free can say..

>> >Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> >Or even worse....

>> >That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> >Etc etc

>> >I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> >My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> >So I said...

>> >Have u looked it up in internet?

>> >Do u know how awful this is?

>> >Not just for me

>> >But for many others!!!

>> >She hadnt even looked it up

>> >But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> >People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> >They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> >Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> >Make us feel further alienated

>> >And misunderstood

>> >Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> >far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> >We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> >We have suffered enough!!!!

>> >C

>> >

>> >------------------------------

>> >

>> >

>> >On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not...

>> >

>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> >show on

>> > > ticks recluse s...

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > Their names are What ...

>> >

>>

>>

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Hi Aa

Yes I understand what ur sayin re the co infections not bein contagious

But when im around folk n get crawly itch

I feel disgusting!!!

N I think the bites are still mite bites so if mites on me how come they dont

afect folk close to me?

I guess cos their immunity better?

Still feels horrid to be around people like this!:-(

C

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 21:32 PST Aandraya wrote:

>C-

>You are not contagious. Trust me on that. I did think the same though so I do

get it.

>Aa

>

>

>

>On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Yes teresa

>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

>> A friend says she scared to hug me

>> Fair enough but hurts!

>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

>> I said ...

>> I dont need a doctor to tell me

>> I will know when my body has healed!

>> I got told....

>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

>>

>> I was furious

>> He said it was a joke

>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

>> Im sick of people makin comments

>> When I still am bitten

>> Crawly itch

>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

>> People dont have a clue!!!

>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(

>> Its hard

>> N yeah we fight

>> N we woll continue to fight

>> But its very lonely

>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

>> Lots of love to everyone suffering this

>> From

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>>

>> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>> >

>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>> >

>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl

<wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>> >

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> > problem

>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> > So the mite free can say..

>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> > Or even worse....

>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> > Etc etc

>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> > So I said...

>> > Have u looked it up in internet?

>> > Do u know how awful this is?

>> > Not just for me

>> > But for many others!!!

>> > She hadnt even looked it up

>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> > Make us feel further alienated

>> > And misunderstood

>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> > We have suffered enough!!!!

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> >

>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what

>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for

>> > answers......

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > > **

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> > show on

>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> > people

>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> > show

>> > > > then let me know...

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > >

>> > > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > > And How and Where and Who.

>> > >

>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

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If they were mites on your body C, they will stay with you and not jump onto someone else. IF they have found a home they will stay put on you. Most likely you still have some mites on you under the skin or in dry skin, so I'd treat in a bathtub (do you have one now?).From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:11:46 AMSubject: Re: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sentHi AaYes I understand what ur sayin re the co infections not bein contagiousBut when im around folk n get crawly itch I feel disgusting!!!N I think the bites are still mite bites so if mites on me how come they dont afect folk close to me?I guess cos their immunity better?Still feels horrid to be around people like this!:-(C------------------------------On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 21:32 PST Aandraya wrote:>C->You are not contagious. Trust me on that. I did think the same though so I do get it.>Aa>>>>On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:>>> >> Yes teresa>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced>> A friend says she scared to hug me>> Fair enough but hurts!>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!>> I said ...>> I dont need a doctor to tell me>> I will know when my body has healed!>> I got told....>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!>> >> I was furious>> He said it was a joke>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive>> Im sick of people makin comments>> When I still am bitten>> Crawly itch>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!>> People dont have a clue!!!>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(>> Its hard>> N yeah we fight>> N we woll continue to fight>> But its very lonely>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all>> Lots of love to everyone suffering this>> From>> C>> >> ------------------------------>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:>> >> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.>> >>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.>> >>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:>> >>> > **>> >>> >>> >>> > So many of these programmes are sensationalist>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the>> > problem>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!>> > So the mite free can say..>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!>> > Or even worse....>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott>> > Etc etc>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out>> > So I said...>> > Have u looked it up in internet?>> > Do u know how awful this is?>> > Not just for me>> > But for many others!!!>> > She hadnt even looked it up>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause>> > Make us feel further alienated>> > And misunderstood>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!>> > We have suffered enough!!!!>> > C>> >>> > ------------------------------>> >>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:>> >>> > >>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for>> > answers......>> > >>> > >>> > > > **>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting>> > show on>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when>> > people>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite>> > show>> > > > then let me know...>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > -->> > >>> > > I keep six honest serving-men>> > > (They taught me all I knew);>> > > Their names are What and Why and When>> > > And How and Where and Who.>> > >>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------

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Hi C,

Using Dettol for cleaning, spraying and even in the washing machine instead of using a conditioner,

made all the difference for me. It worked like a miracle on my mites !

Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 11:43 Sonntag, 15.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sent

It realy helps to be understood by the folk on here,then we are not alone in our suffering.Also it so important that folk been.healed n.give excelent advice,to help others thru.the same hell they travelled through!We will get better teresaI only started to.think that a few days agoIts because for the first time since this started in june The crawly sensation a lil bit beter on my thighs tho still itchy n bitesBut glad c some improvement The Sulphur soap left on patted dryScrub before wi epsom salts or bicarbThen put a cocktail of apple cider vinegar,neem oil,tea tree,rosemary,eucalyptus,lavender and clove mixed wi water on my body,n hair,Pat dryIt helpsAlso burn menthol crystals every evening nowJust started samentoSo will see if helpsDoes anyone have experience with any of the internal herbs for lymeOxyclear in washDettol in homeBit by bitOnly couple days more

hopefulIts a warWeve got to win!!!!Yes make new accountN change wi birdmite.orgIt helps me feel less vulnerable bein anonymousYou are goin thru a hell o a lot tooTcC------------------------------On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 15:45 PST wrote:>Yes C, it is hard to be Poppins. I have heard the same comments over>the last 8 months.>For instance, last summer my neighbor told me "You don't have any mites in>your house or car -- (I was just about suicidal at the time).>My sister-in-law said "You don't have any mites and I'm going to give you a>big hug to show you that I'm not afraid.">My supervisor asked me to show her my bites -- I told her "I dont have any>now." I only had visible bites b4 I threw out the mattress and b4 I>started spraying the sofa.>My mother tells me "You just need to get that out of your head.">So no

one in my life anyway tries to understand except for those on this>forum. I still haven't gotten used to that but I'm trying.>Yes, it is lonely and difficult.>I thank God again for the people on this forum.>>Switching gears, I need to change my on-line ID too to remain anonymous.>Did you go under and get a new one? Can you call me "T" from here on>out? Thanks.>>>>>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:>>> **>>>>>>>> Yes teresa>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced>> A friend says she scared to hug me>> Fair enough but hurts!>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not

contagious!!!>> I said ...>> I dont need a doctor to tell me>> I will know when my body has healed!>> I got told....>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!>>>> I was furious>> He said it was a joke>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive>> Im sick of people makin comments>> When I still am bitten>> Crawly itch>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!>> People dont have a clue!!!>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(>> Its hard>> N yeah we fight>> N we woll continue to fight>> But its very lonely>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all>> Lots of love to everyone suffering

this>> From>> C>>>> ------------------------------>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:>>>> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.>> >>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.>> >>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>> >wrote:>>>> >>> > **>> >>> >>> >>> > So many

of these programmes are sensationalist>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the>> > problem>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but>> for>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!>> > So the mite free can say..>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!>> > Or even worse....>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott>> > Etc etc>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out>> > So I said...>> > Have u looked it up in internet?>> > Do u know how awful this is?>> > Not just for me>> > But for many others!!!>> > She hadnt even

looked it up>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause>> > Make us feel further alienated>> > And misunderstood>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is>> few n>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!>> > We have suffered enough!!!!>> > C>> >>> > ------------------------------>> >>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:>> >>> > >>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind

set or not.. So all i want to>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care>> what>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking>> for>> > answers......>> > >>> > >>> > > > **>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an

interesting>> > show on>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when>> > people>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite>> > show>> > > > then let me know...>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > -->> > >>> > > I keep six honest serving-men>> > > (They taught me all I knew);>> > > Their names are What and Why and When>> > > And How and Where and Who.>> > >>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>>>>

>>

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True, I never transmitted my mites to anyone, not to my boyfriend, parents, best friends or colleagues !

The mites only do bite people with a pre-condition, like fungus, lime, etc.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 6:32 Montag, 16.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sent

C-

You are not contagious. Trust me on that. I did think the same though so I do get it.

Aa

On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes teresaThis is the worst thing most of us have ever experiencedA friend says she scared to hug meFair enough but hurts!Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!I said ...I dont need a doctor to tell meI will know when my body has healed!I got told....Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!I was furiousHe said it was a jokeBut in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(Got told by my friend today I have to be positiveIm sick of people makin commentsWhen I still am bittenCrawly itchLost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks agoN im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!People dont have a clue!!!Ur life gets taken away!:-(Its hardN yeah we fightN we woll continue to fightBut its very lonelyN a sad n difficult thing to go through for us allLots of love to everyone suffering

thisFromC------------------------------On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:>I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal>Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost>possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and>are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.>>Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.>>On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>wrote:>>> **>>>>>>>> So many of these programmes are sensationalist>> They dont give a shit

about answers or helping the people suffering the>> problem>> Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for>> the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!>> So the mite free can say..>> Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!>> Or even worse....>> That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott>> Etc etc>> I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!>> My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out>> So I said...>> Have u looked it up in internet?>> Do u know how awful this is?>> Not just for me>> But for many others!!!>> She hadnt even looked it up>> But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!>> People can be reactionary about things they dont

understand>> They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!>> Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause>> Make us feel further alienated>> And misunderstood>> Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n>> far between in this harsh world we live in!>> We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!>> We have suffered enough!!!!>> C>>>> ------------------------------>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:>>>> >>> >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to>> hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what>> i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????>> been through all that crap... What are you

afraid of??? im just looking for>> answers......>> >>> >>> > > **>> > >>> > >>> > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting>> show on>> > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when>> people>> > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite>> show>> > > then let me know...>> >

>>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > -->> >>> > I keep six honest serving-men>> > (They taught me all I knew);>> > Their names are What and Why and When>> > And How and Where and Who.>> >>> > *Rudyard Kipling*>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>

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Do u think a person could have lyme without having bird mites?  My mother seems to have a lot of this thinking...it just wears me out.  I thought it was b/c of the sugar, coffee and chocolate.   

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

Along with the infestation issue that already made me crazy, Lyme infects the brain very quickly and causes obsessive thinking, anxiety, Lyme rage, even paranoia which I dealt with all of it!

AandrayaOn Jan 14, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

 

I thought the show would give some validation to the problem, even if people with this problem become somewhat obsessive.  The obsession comes as a result of the insidiousness... because the mites in early stages are so difficult to see, because they leave a trail of fungus and bring us bacterias and parasites.  My brother was looking forward to seeing the show too.  He believes me. 

From: " Laurel " <l.santi@...>bird mites

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:07:29 AMSubject: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sentAfter watching the trailer link, I will have to agree with you Krys. I was disappointed, but wanting to watch with my husband for validation since I'm not sure he believed me. You are right he probably would have latched onto the obsession part and I still

wouldn't have the validation I'm looking for.> > > **> >> >> > There was absolutely nothing on

bird mites, but was an interesting show on> > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when people> > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite show

> > then let me know...> >> >  > >> > > > -- > > I keep six honest serving-men>   (They taught me all I knew);> Their names are What and Why and When

>   And How and Where and Who.> > *Rudyard Kipling*>------------------------------------

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Yes bites particularly under nails n toenails handnails n feet tho other places

too!

Dont have a tub still,just shower unfortunately

Tho clove oil neem apple cider vinegar sulphur rinses help!

Thanks linda

C

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On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 07:21 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>If they were mites on your body C, they will stay with you and not jump onto

someone else. IF they have found a home they will stay put on you. Most likely

you still have some mites on you under the skin or in dry skin, so I'd treat in

a bathtub (do you have one now?).

>

> Re: Re: regarding animal planet info that had been sent

>

>

>Hi Aa

>Yes I understand what ur sayin re the co infections not bein contagious

>But when im around folk n get crawly itch

>I feel disgusting!!!

>N I think the bites are still mite bites so if mites on me how come they dont

afect folk close to me?

>I guess cos their immunity better?

>Still feels horrid to be around people like this!:-(

>C

>

>

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>On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 21:32 PST Aandraya wrote:

>

>>C-

>>You are not contagious. Trust me on that. I did think the same though so I do

get it.

>>Aa

>>

>>

>>

>>On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Yes teresa

>> This is the worst thing most of us have ever experienced

>> A friend says she scared to hug me

>> Fair enough but hurts!

>> Another said...wont c me til I have diagnosis n im not contagious!!!

>> I said ...

>> I dont need a doctor to tell me

>> I will know when my body has healed!

>> I got told....

>> Thats what all the mentaly ill say!!!

>>

>> I was furious

>> He said it was a joke

>> But in horid taste as my doctor freakin out at me too!:-(

>> Got told by my friend today I have to be positive

>> Im sick of people makin comments

>> When I still am bitten

>> Crawly itch

>> Lost home village possesions best friend cat three weeks ago

>> N im suposed to be mary bloody poppins!!!!

>> People dont have a clue!!!

>> Ur life gets taken away!:-(

>> Its hard

>> N yeah we fight

>> N we woll continue to fight

>> But its very lonely

>> N a sad n difficult thing to go through for us all

>> Lots of love to everyone suffering this

>> From

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PST wrote:

>>

>> >I agree. I wish I could take what you said and email that to the Animal

>> >Planet producers. We are human beings with feelings who have lost

>> >possesions, had to move, lost so many things, things displaced, etc. and

>> >are labeled as crazy b/c of what happened to us.

>> >

>> >Help me Lord to be understanding when misunderstood.

>> >

>> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sad Girl

<wherearetheangels@...>wrote:

>> >

>> > **

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > So many of these programmes are sensationalist

>> > They dont give a shit about answers or helping the people suffering the

>> > problem

>> > Often these programmes are not for the benefit if the suffererers but for

>> > the cosy people snuggled up safe in their houses ...without the problem!

>> > So the mite free can say..

>> > Thank god I dont have that...poor.souls!!!

>> > Or even worse....

>> > That person must be obsessive/nuts/crazy/mad/ott

>> > Etc etc

>> > I agree krys the word...obsesses is not sympathetic!!!

>> > My doctor said she worry as I too extreme throwin nearly everythin out

>> > So I said...

>> > Have u looked it up in internet?

>> > Do u know how awful this is?

>> > Not just for me

>> > But for many others!!!

>> > She hadnt even looked it up

>> > But assumed LOTS of things about my bloody mental health instead!

>> > People can be reactionary about things they dont understand

>> > They label people cos makes it easier for them to deal with!

>> > Insensitive sensationalist programmes would only hurt our cause

>> > Make us feel further alienated

>> > And misunderstood

>> > Intelligent reporting with sensitivity,tact n empathy n awareness is few n

>> > far between in this harsh world we live in!

>> > We need sensationalism...like we need a bolt in the head!!!

>> > We have suffered enough!!!!

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> >

>> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 19:50 PST deedee wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > >i really don't care if it hurts my mind set or not.. So all i want to

>> > hear is 1 on 1 accounts so excuse me . Ive been in this and i do care what

>> > i hear because maybe it will help...Question? Why would it hurt me?????

>> > been through all that crap... What are you afraid of??? im just looking for

>> > answers......

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > > **

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > There was absolutely nothing on bird mites, but was an interesting

>> > show on

>> > > > ticks recluse spiders and bedbugs... i really get disappointed when

>> > people

>> > > > post things that are not true... If someone knows a true bird mite

>> > show

>> > > > then let me know...

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > >

>> > > I keep six honest serving-men

>> > > (They taught me all I knew);

>> > > Their names are What and Why and When

>> > > And How and Where and Who.

>> > >

>> > > *Rudyard Kipling*

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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