Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 These are def. what i saw at the beginning as well as my extertminater. Also had many fungus nats as well as collumbolla and my spelling is bad tonight sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 my dr .. i asked to be tested.. I posted this before and im very upst about it, she is a foreign dr, well shes gone now, but she said ... it doesnt matter if you have it or not.. its too late to do anything about it...?????? > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I think that is a good possibility. The japanese considered dropping springtails and other insects from planes as bio warfare during the war. http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/284/5/561.full http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomological_warfare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > pretty > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I had the fungal gnats to. We're there seemed to be nest of springtails outside I would see gnats flying around the same areas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Wow she might be right with western medicine but there are alternatives. > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I actually saw Birdmites at the beginning, My caccon creatures are actually even smaller because i only see fibers. Ive looked and looked but had to give up looking for awhile.. def in seams of clothes and way to small to see.. some day they will fig it out, and hope im here to see it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > pretty > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 animal planet..,. Infested > > > > Did you see it dd? > > > > birdmite show > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 yep gnats were really bad/ didnt know about collumbola until they showed up on my dig. pics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yes it will get figured out. Perhaps not by the CDC but independent dr and scientist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > > pretty > > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I had bird mites initially to. The most presistant insect in the multitude infestation was springtails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > > pretty > > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Well all im hoping for , is for this... whatever THIS is to be found out and treated within my lifetime.. so no one else/ other generations dont have to deal with this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Everyone that thinks springtails could not vector should read this. http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/284/5/561.full -- - In bird mites , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > I had bird mites initially to. The most presistant insect in the multitude infestation was springtails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 What?? I know many through our nonprofit who have FULLY recovered, even from severe cases of Lyme. And many more like me who are on the road to recovery. Average treatment time for chronic Lyme is 3-5 years. On Jan 28, 2012, at 12:42 AM, deedee <hair2cut00@...> wrote: my dr .. i asked to be tested.. I posted this before and im very upst about it, she is a foreign dr, well shes gone now, but she said ... it doesnt matter if you have it or not.. its too late to do anything about it...?????? > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Agree if not for us our children and their children. Time to take the torch in hand and ask for answers and to stop being poisoned for big profit and design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wanted to add, having an experienced Lyme literate practitioner- one with good treatment outcomes- is key.On Jan 28, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: What?? I know many through our nonprofit who have FULLY recovered, even from severe cases of Lyme. And many more like me who are on the road to recovery. Average treatment time for chronic Lyme is 3-5 years. On Jan 28, 2012, at 12:42 AM, deedee <hair2cut00@...> wrote: my dr .. i asked to be tested.. I posted this before and im very upst about it, she is a foreign dr, well shes gone now, but she said ... it doesnt matter if you have it or not.. its too late to do anything about it...?????? > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I have thought about that too Marie. There is a very strong possibility of that since we have had those same spiders for the last couple of years. Those spider traps you told me about are a God send. Still have them out and will always.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:59:52 PMSubject: Re: birdmite show spiders are also arthropods just like springtails so a spider could vector bartonella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 That was some of the most interesting info I've seen yet on Bartonella. Mercola's site is a wealth of information. Answers some of my questions too and I'm "seeing" my LLMD by phone Monday so have lots of questions. I had stopped the Rifampin, but continue the Doxy, but wondering if I should start with another drug and obviously 3 months of Rifampin is not enough. This disease is just as bad as Lyme. Thanks once again Marie.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:02:13 PMSubject: Re: birdmite showScroll to the bottom of this article and read http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx--- In bird mites , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:>> spiders are also arthropods just like springtails so a spider could vector bartonella.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 did you read the article that implies just contact with arthropods could cause bartonella? http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\ bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Lol you read and posted right after I reposted. My vet yesterday said this is a larger concern than Lyme. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 They could be Aa. You might be on to something there. The one bug I saw on microscope had fibers wound all around it.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:33:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: birdmite show I could see them with naked eye, but not clearly. I wonder if they are the organism that make the tight lint cocoons out of clothing fibers. AaOn Jan 28, 2012, at 12:12 AM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: Mine were very small but visible to the naked eye. Of course that was the adults the nymphs I would think we're microscopic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty > > > > good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well that advice is crap... lolFrom: "deedee" <hair2cut00@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:42:30 PMSubject: Re: birdmite showmy dr .. i asked to be tested.. I posted this before and im very upst about it, she is a foreign dr, well shes gone now, but she said ... it doesnt matter if you have it or not.. its too late to do anything about it...??????> > > > >> > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Spelling isn't important. Very interesting dd.From: "deedee" <hair2cut00@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:38:41 PMSubject: Re: birdmite showThese are def. what i saw at the beginning as well as my extertminater. Also had many fungus nats as well as collumbolla and my spelling is bad tonight sorry..> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty> > > > good story.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yes - that may be my link to the Bartonella! We still get the spiders, but fewer. Have DE spread all over the small patio where they would come in, but they still manage to get in. Not looking forward to Spring ( & Fall) since that's when they seem to have babies. I found that article eye opening. I'd never read that bartonella could bring folliculitis before and we've had that. Still have it. Apple cider vinegar treatments to hair didn't work.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:07:56 AMSubject: Re: birdmite show did you read the article that implies just contact with arthropods could cause bartonella?http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx--- In bird mites , Goldstein@... wrote:>> I have thought about that too Marie. There is a very strong possibility of that since we have had those same spiders for the last couple of years. Those spider traps you told me about are a God send. Still have them out and will always. > > Re: birdmite show > > spiders are also arthropods just like springtails so a spider could vector bartonella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yup, I noticed that. I think it is too. Could have also been a biowarfare agent. Just like Lyme.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:09:58 AMSubject: Re: birdmite showLol you read and posted right after I reposted. My vet yesterday said this is a larger concern than Lyme. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 best thing for my hair was homemade sulfur soap, and at night just plain liquid lye left on dry hair then a good scrub with lye shampoo in morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The infested show on birdmites actually is a pretty good story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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