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Z-Sounds like you have Lyme. I'll email you the info from the ILADS conference which was held in Toronto last Oct. A number of Canadian Lyme practitioners participated. They use Igenix for the testing. My good friend contracted Lyme while living in Canada. When I get on my computer I'll forward you the info. In the meantime I'd start treating with herbal antibiotics.Aandraya On Jan 27, 2012, at 10:23 PM, zephra04 <ruth.abbott@...> wrote:

Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z your symptoms are identical to mine. I had springtails also with mites. For

sometime I thought the springtails were fleas because they jump. I felt like

springtails were my vector and stealth arthropod. I have some theory bartonella

may be a large factor and just as hard if not harder to test for than Lyme., and

the symptoms closely related. Will Canada recognize bartonella?

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> Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on the

bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Here is the Canadian web site to.

http://www.canlyme.com/

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> > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on

the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Forgot to mention hair falling out and receding gums. Both really bad. z

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> Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on the

bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Hi, I had contacted ILADS and they said I would have to go to the states. The

last Dr. treating was threatened with suspension. z

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> > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

> > doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites

> > for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I

> > do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white

> > granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months

> > into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for

> > about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

> > particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not

> > have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not

> > lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors

> > practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z-Had that too, my teeth also became devitalized- lost enamel, discolored, weak, etc. My hair is no longer falling out and my teeth and gums look much better. These issues resolve with treatment.AandrayaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 10:46 PM, zephra04 <ruth.abbott@...> wrote:

Forgot to mention hair falling out and receding gums. Both really bad. z

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> Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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My hair stayed in and gums got healthy with oil pull and mms wash. Also for me

using sulfur shampoo or making liquid lye soap and adding flower of sulfur

helped mt hair. Taking flower of sulfur internally make sure it is USP grade

will do wonders for your hair.

http://mms4life.wordpress.com/mms-protocolactivation/mms-methods-for-teeth-mouth\

-gums-and-tongue/

http://www.oilpulling.com/

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> > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on

the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Yes I think I have springtails too. All bugs are now attracted to me and it's

winter. I will check to see if bartonella is acceptable in Canada. What a joke

eh. Would have the mites given me bartonella or lyme? The bad part now is that

even trying to importing drugs will be hard, the government have really tighten

up. How are you doing now?Thanks healinghope. z

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> > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on

the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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http://www.morganhorse.co.uk/care/flowers-of-sulphur

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> > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on

the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z-Not true, I have videos of 4-5 Canadian doctors who are treating. There aren't many though. They spoke at the Toronto conference. AandrayaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 10:51 PM, zephra04 <ruth.abbott@...> wrote:

Hi, I had contacted ILADS and they said I would have to go to the states. The last Dr. treating was threatened with suspension. z

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> > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

> > doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites

> > for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I

> > do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white

> > granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months

> > into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for

> > about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

> > particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not

> > have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not

> > lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors

> > practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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I am oil pulling and waterpick with GSE and clove oil and peppermint. I will

look into the sulfur flower. Thanks

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> > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on

the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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What treatment are you on? Are you feeling better? z

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> > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

> > doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites

> > for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I

> > do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white

> > granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months

> > into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for

> > about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

> > particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not

> > have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not

> > lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors

> > practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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I have resolved the Lyme dealing with some issues unrelated. Past injury and

respective stress from work. I am getting old to:) the treatment for bartonella

is lengthy and would put a bite on the Lyme, if indeed it is both. Flower of

sulfur taken daily with lots os water will make you less attractive to insects.

Also a spring tonic wil gobble up fungus. Can you get black strap mollases? If

so take a teaspoon of mollases and mix in a teaspoon of sulfur and take twice

daily. The fungus gobbles the molasses and also the sulfur:)

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> > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on

the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me

crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety

is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small

sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which

lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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I will have to look into this further. I called them in September, maybe it was

canlyme I emailed. z

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> > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

> > > > doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites

> > > > for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I

> > > > do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white

> > > > granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months

> > > > into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted

> > for

> > > > about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

> > > > particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do

> > not

> > > > have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not

> > > > lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors

> > > > practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Dragon software my post should have been repetitive stress

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> > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing

on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive

me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides

anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes

small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z-I've been on multiple antibiotic cocktails- both RX and herbal, for the three main Lyme infections- borrelia, bartonella, and babesia. I have no more bugs on me or in my environment. I was VERY ill, thought I was getting Alzheimer's, had lesions and rashes all over my body, and terrible anxiety and obsessive thinking, severe brain fog, etc. I have come a long way, am still treating, and now see a light at the end of the tunnel. Lyme knocks down the immune system and when it becomes chronic can take a long time to recover. Yes, I am feeling much better, thanks.AandrayaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 11:01 PM, zephra04 <ruth.abbott@...> wrote:

What treatment are you on? Are you feeling better? z

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> > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

> > doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites

> > for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I

> > do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white

> > granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months

> > into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for

> > about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

> > particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not

> > have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not

> > lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors

> > practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

> > >

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Did you take anti-biotics? I have been getting treatment by a Master Herbalist,

I told him I thought I had morgellons and he said he would treat for like it was

lyme with the herbs. I am also on a special eating plan watching my ph and lots

of vitamins and sulfur NAC. I am 55 and was very stressd when I got this. Did

you have the baronella too?

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> > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing

on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive

me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides

anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes

small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Babesiosis, bartonella, and Lyme. Was not tested for mycoplasma, thinking that

was part of the cocktail. I first treated the standard 21 days with doxy. Within

two months I almost died. I went on pic line for thirty days. Still sick. Turned

to herbs from wolf creek ranch for a morgellon Lyme study. The herbs did jump

start me. For me the killer was sulfur, mms, bio plasma cell salts. Mms baths

also.

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> > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing

on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive

me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides

anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes

small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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http://www.lymediseaseblog.com/mycoplasma-overlooked-lyme-co-infection/

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> > > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months,

drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides

anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes

small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Thanks, I will check this out. I guess I should get tested but it sure sounds

like I have lyme. What is this to do with Morgellons? z

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> > > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months,

drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides

anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes

small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z-Good move by the herbalist, morgellons is found in those with Lyme. I had severe Bartonella and Babesia, major brain symptoms, thought I was losing my mind. For some herbal abx are enough, for me they were not. I made dramatic progress on both Rifampin and Levaquin, the two top RX abx used for Bartonella. Bactrim and cryptolepis was also very helpful. For babesia- both artemisinin and cryptolepis were helpful and I also took stronger antimalarials for that. Also, done tons of other herbals along with the rx abx. I have made what I consider near miraculous progress. There were times that I wanted to die.I emailed you the lectures given by the Canadian Lyme practitioners. AandrayaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 11:08 PM, zephra04 wrote: Did you take anti-biotics? I have been getting treatment by a Master Herbalist, I told him I thought I had morgellons and he said he would treat for like it was lyme with the herbs. I am also on a special eating plan watching my ph and lots of vitamins and sulfur NAC. I am 55 and was very stressd when I got this. Did you have the baronella too? > > > > > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z > > > > > > > > > >

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Wish I could answer that, there really is no answer. Many have symptoms with

fibers to that has been named morgellon.

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> > > > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I

doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months,

drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides

anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes

small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these

particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers

just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto

their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z-It's some other pathogen, possibly bacterial or fungal in nature, and my present doctor believes it is multiple pathogens, I agree with him. Antifungals and abx treament stopped the stuff coming out of my skin- both Itraconazole and Voriconazole.AandrayaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 11:24 PM, zephra04 wrote: Thanks, I will check this out. I guess I should get tested but it sure sounds like I have lyme. What is this to do with Morgellons? z > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know what am I doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had the mites for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores. About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern with these particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I have? I do not have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I hope it's not lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Thanks Aandraya and Healing Hope for explaning a few thing to me. z

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> > > > > > > > Hi, I myself got this from a dog who had fleas. I know

> > what am I doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had

> > the mites for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the

> > things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks

> > sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores.

> > About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

> > which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern

> > with these particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I

> > have? I do not have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I

> > hope it's not lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate

> > Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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Z anytime. Hope you find some healing.

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> > > what am I doing on the bird mite forum. Well mites. I now have had

> > > the mites for 6 months, drive me crazy but can manage with all the

> > > things I do. My symptoms are besides anxiety is black specks

> > > sometime white granuales and paper cuts and sometimes small sores.

> > > About 2 months into this I had a rash all over my chest and waist

> > > which lasted for about 2 weeks. My question is, is there a pattern

> > > with these particular symptoms to pinpoint what co-infections I

> > > have? I do not have fibers just lots of black specks coming out. I

> > > hope it's not lyme because in Toronto their are no lyme literate

> > > Doctors practicing that are covered by OHIP. Thanks z

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