Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hi all I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes As soon as I picked them off More appeared And it went on n on for hours My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere It was like a horror film Cudnt believe it! At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas But I kidded self on they baby fleas As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening So I did see them attack my feet This,was august I think Last year I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet And that my toes were where they atacked So I wonder ....is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? No one has ever mentioned that. Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? If it isnt mites but it is co infections How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? Its all so confusing N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week Could it be fibromyalgia? Would that cause little red bumps? Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this And we all have go private meds Its shocking! Thanks for listening Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. I shall get doxy capsules however. Tc everyone ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: > >, >Thanks for being here also :-) > > > >------------------------------ >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: > >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hi C, Hope you start feeling better soon. Abx might be what you need...seems to be internal infection since symptoms are still there...mites or no mites. Of course, I'm not a dr.... On Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM, " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: Hi all I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes As soon as I picked them off More appeared And it went on n on for hours My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere It was like a horror film Cudnt believe it! At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas But I kidded self on they baby fleas As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening So I did see them attack my feet This,was august I think Last year I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet And that my toes were where they atacked So I wonder ....is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? No one has ever mentioned that. Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? If it isnt mites but it is co infections How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? Its all so confusing N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week Could it be fibromyalgia? Would that cause little red bumps? Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this And we all have go private meds Its shocking! Thanks for listening Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. I shall get doxy capsules however. Tc everyone ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: > >, >Thanks for being here also :-) > > > >------------------------------ >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: > >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hi CMy theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story.I hope you can see this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW_vstm0bS8From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsHi allI did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problemThen I started gettin bit bad wi mitesOne day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attackedI took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toesAs soon as I picked them offMore appearedAnd it went on n on for hoursMy toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhereIt was like a horror filmCudnt believe it!At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleasBut I kidded self on they baby fleasAs I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapeningSo I did see them attack my feetThis,was august I thinkLast yearI find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feetAnd that my toes were where they atackedSoI wonder...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhereOr could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?No one has ever mentioned that.Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?If it isnt mites but it is co infectionsHow come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?Its all so confusingN for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this weekCould it be fibromyalgia?Would that cause little red bumps?Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?Why is the medical system so ignorant about all thisAnd we all have go private medsIts shocking!Thanks for listeningIts a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.I shall get doxy capsules however.Tc everyone------------------------------On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>>,>Thanks for being here also :-)>>>>------------------------------>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >>>>>>Thanks for being there everyone. >>>> Re: meds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >>>>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >>>>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Oh linda thanks But im using a mobile n cant watch videos on it! Oh boy u had lyme in 8os also:-( Can we be born with it? I used get lot fungal infections etc as a child My dad used to get tick bites hillwalking I wunder if it was always there So many unknowns Yes I agree we were originaly bit by the mites Its just that I dont know if the mites are still there I do see lots of little white dots where im bit next to swolen red lump But its not the same as the day they swarmed me Id be a lot happier to have infection n not mites T just gives a lot of us the creeps Infestation by insects Bacteria is easier to deal with emotionaly! How are u doing linda ? ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 13:45 PST Goldstein@... wrote: > >Hi C > > >My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. > > >These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. > > >I hope you can see this video. > > > > > Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Thanks elissa Have to wait till get money to order doxy So many other things,to pay for Hope will tolerate the capsules Hope u are well n taking care n resting enough with baby due :-) ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 13:38 PST Elissa wrote: >Hi C, > >Hope you start feeling better soon. > >Abx might be what you need...seems to be internal infection since symptoms >are still there...mites or no mites. > >Of course, I'm not a dr.... > >On Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM, " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: > >** > > > >Hi all >I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >As soon as I picked them off >More appeared >And it went on n on for hours >My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >It was like a horror film >Cudnt believe it! >At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >But I kidded self on they baby fleas >As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >So >I did see them attack my feet >This,was august I think >Last year >I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my >body is still my feet n soles of feet >And that my toes were where they atacked >So >I wonder >...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at >the site where the person has been previously bitten? >No one has ever mentioned that. >Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two >month ago? >If it isnt mites but it is co infections >How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly >afterwards? >Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >Its all so confusing >N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >Could it be fibromyalgia? >Would that cause little red bumps? >Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after >the pinprick sensation? >Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >And we all have go private meds >Its shocking! >Thanks for listening >Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >I shall get doxy capsules however. >Tc everyone > >------------------------------ >On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: > >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple >infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and >Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure >helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal >struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll >probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny >there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I >never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it >sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired >clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put >into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co >infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. >I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily >and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks >have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is >herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as >being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the >crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may >have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 >years. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm doing better today thank you! Getting some housework done too and moving around more. Laundry is never ending.I get those little red bites too C once in a while. Those can be very itchy. Some of the "bites" that feel like someone stuck a needle in my feet I believe may be neurological. I don't see a red bite mark after those.From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:13:17 PMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsOh linda thanksBut im using a mobile n cant watch videos on it!Oh boy u had lyme in 8os also:-(Can we be born with it?I used get lot fungal infections etc as a childMy dad used to get tick bites hillwalkingI wunder if it was always thereSo many unknownsYes I agree we were originaly bit by the mitesIts just that I dont know if the mites are still thereI do see lots of little white dots where im bit next to swolen red lumpBut its not the same as the day they swarmed meId be a lot happier to have infection n not mitesT just gives a lot of us the creeps Infestation by insectsBacteria is easier to deal with emotionaly!How are u doing linda ?------------------------------On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 13:45 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>Hi C >>>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >>>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >>>I hope you can see this video. >>> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Bartonella when present with Lyme causes all sorts of unusual skin presentations. It also causes overactive nerve activity felt on the soles of the feet. The appearing bite marks are common. Sometimes after they go away they leave a whitish spot on the skin. One of the new Bart herbs being used is Sida Acuta.AandrayaOn Feb 21, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: Hi all I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes As soon as I picked them off More appeared And it went on n on for hours My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere It was like a horror film Cudnt believe it! At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas But I kidded self on they baby fleas As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening So I did see them attack my feet This,was august I think Last year I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet And that my toes were where they atacked So I wonder ....is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? No one has ever mentioned that. Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? If it isnt mites but it is co infections How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? Its all so confusing N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week Could it be fibromyalgia? Would that cause little red bumps? Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this And we all have go private meds Its shocking! Thanks for listening Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. I shall get doxy capsules however. Tc everyone ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: > >, >Thanks for being here also :-) > > > >------------------------------ >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: > >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Glad ur feeling better n have some more energy today It helps:-) Aye,bloody housework eh!!! I went overboard with dettol today!!!! I get the red lumps with the sharp bites Oh When we are better we will never take anything for granted Thats for sure!!! I was going to say sleep well as its eleven pm here,tues night But not sure what time of day it is for you! The wonders o modern technology writin this,n lots,o folk all over the world acess it within seconds Its,just fantastical realy! X ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 14:31 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >I'm doing better today thank you! Getting some housework done too and moving around more. Laundry is never ending. > > >I get those little red bites too C once in a while. Those can be very itchy. Some of the " bites " that feel like someone stuck a needle in my feet I believe may be neurological. I don't see a red bite mark after those. > > > > > > Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Thanks Aa I shall look into that herb Hope ur well! ------------------------------ On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 14:42 PST Aandraya wrote: >Bartonella when present with Lyme causes all sorts of unusual skin presentations. It also causes overactive nerve activity felt on the soles of the feet. The appearing bite marks are common. Sometimes after they go away they leave a whitish spot on the skin. One of the new Bart herbs being used is Sida Acuta. > >Aandraya > > > >On Feb 21, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: > >> >> Hi all >> I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >> Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >> One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >> I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >> As soon as I picked them off >> More appeared >> And it went on n on for hours >> My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >> It was like a horror film >> Cudnt believe it! >> At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >> But I kidded self on they baby fleas >> As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >> So >> I did see them attack my feet >> This,was august I think >> Last year >> I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >> And that my toes were where they atacked >> So >> I wonder >> ...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >> Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >> Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >> No one has ever mentioned that. >> Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >> If it isnt mites but it is co infections >> How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >> Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >> Its all so confusing >> N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >> Could it be fibromyalgia? >> Would that cause little red bumps? >> Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >> Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >> And we all have go private meds >> Its shocking! >> Thanks for listening >> Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >> I shall get doxy capsules however. >> Tc everyone >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> >> > >> >, >> >Thanks for being here also :-) >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> > >> >It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> > >> > >> >Thanks for being there everyone. >> > >> > Re: meds >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi there >> >Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >> >Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >> >My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >> >Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >> >Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >> >Even one on my arm,two on my legs >> >Last night they were bad too >> >Im extremely distressed >> >As got more agressive with treatment recently >> >Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >> >Bathing feet with allsorts every night >> >And yet its got a lot worse >> >I am realy upset >> >Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >> >Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >> >I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >> >Sprayed nylar inside >> >And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >> >I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >> >Because every time im bitten >> >The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> > >> >I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Right now it is 3:01 pm in the afternoon. My daughter and Aggi are 9 hours ahead of us here in California and I think your time zone is 8 hours ahead of us. But sleep well!!! From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:44:20 PMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsGlad ur feeling better n have some more energy today It helps:-)Aye,bloody housework eh!!!I went overboard with dettol today!!!!I get the red lumps with the sharp bitesOhWhen we are better we will never take anything for grantedThats for sure!!!I was going to say sleep well as its eleven pm here,tues nightBut not sure what time of day it is for you!The wonders o modern technology writin this,n lots,o folk all over the world acess it within secondsIts,just fantastical realy!X------------------------------On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 14:31 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>I'm doing better today thank you! Getting some housework done too and moving around more. Laundry is never ending. >>>I get those little red bites too C once in a while. Those can be very itchy. Some of the "bites" that feel like someone stuck a needle in my feet I believe may be neurological. I don't see a red bite mark after those. >>> >>> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Hi C, What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections Hi C My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. I hope you can see this video. From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsHi allI did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problemThen I started gettin bit bad wi mitesOne day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attackedI took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toesAs soon as I picked them offMore appearedAnd it went on n on for hoursMy toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhereIt was like a horror filmCudnt believe it!At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleasBut I kidded self on they baby fleasAs I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapeningSo I did see them attack my feetThis,was august I thinkLast yearI find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feetAnd that my toes were where they atackedSoI wonder...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhereOr could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?No one has ever mentioned that.Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?If it isnt mites but it is co infectionsHow come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?Its all so confusingN for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this weekCould it be fibromyalgia?Would that cause little red bumps?Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?Why is the medical system so ignorant about all thisAnd we all have go private medsIts shocking!Thanks for listeningIts a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.I shall get doxy capsules however.Tc everyone------------------------------On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>>,>Thanks for being here also :-)>>>>------------------------------>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >>>>>>Thanks for being there everyone. >>>> Re: meds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >>>>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >>>>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Thanks aggi I will look into it C Iv changed to I like trees As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules Fingers crossed my tummy will handle Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! I really really will!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >Hi C, > >What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. > > > >________________________________ >Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> >An: bird mites >Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections > > > >Hi C > >My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get > treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. > >These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. > >I hope you can see this video. > > > > >________________________________ >From: " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> >bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >Subject: Re: lyme n co infections > > >Hi all >I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >As soon as I picked them off >More appeared >And it went on n on for hours >My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >It was like a horror film >Cudnt believe it! >At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >But I kidded self on they baby fleas >As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >So >I did see them attack my feet >This,was august I think >Last year >I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >And that my toes were where they atacked >So >I wonder >...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >No one has ever mentioned that. >Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >If it isnt mites but it is co infections >How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >Its all so confusing >N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >Could it be fibromyalgia? >Would that cause little red bumps? >Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >And we all have go private meds >Its shocking! >Thanks for listening >Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >I shall get doxy capsules however. >Tc everyone > > > > >------------------------------ >On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: > >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! Thanks C ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: > >Thanks aggi >I will look into it >C >Iv changed to I like trees >As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) > >Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >I really really will!!! > > > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: > >>Hi C, >> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> >>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >> >>Hi C >> >>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> >>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> >>I hope you can see this video. >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> >>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >>Hi all >>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >>As soon as I picked them off >>More appeared >>And it went on n on for hours >>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >>It was like a horror film >>Cudnt believe it! >>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >>But I kidded self on they baby fleas >>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >>So >>I did see them attack my feet >>This,was august I think >>Last year >>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >>And that my toes were where they atacked >>So >>I wonder >>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >>No one has ever mentioned that. >>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >>If it isnt mites but it is co infections >>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >>Its all so confusing >>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >>Could it be fibromyalgia? >>Would that cause little red bumps? >>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >>And we all have go private meds >>Its shocking! >>Thanks for listening >>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >>I shall get doxy capsules however. >>Tc everyone >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 If you start a low doses the bacteria can build up resistance to it. A low dose is 100mg 2 x a day- that is bacteriostatic- keeps them from reproducing. Studies show 200mg 2x a day is bacteriocidal. AandrayaOn Feb 22, 2012, at 4:44 PM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! Thanks C ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: > >Thanks aggi >I will look into it >C >Iv changed to I like trees >As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) > >Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >I really really will!!! > > > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: > >>Hi C, >> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> >>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >> >>Hi C >> >>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> >>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> >>I hope you can see this video. >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...> >>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >>Hi all >>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >>As soon as I picked them off >>More appeared >>And it went on n on for hours >>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >>It was like a horror film >>Cudnt believe it! >>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >>But I kidded self on they baby fleas >>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >>So >>I did see them attack my feet >>This,was august I think >>Last year >>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >>And that my toes were where they atacked >>So >>I wonder >>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >>No one has ever mentioned that. >>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >>If it isnt mites but it is co infections >>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >>Its all so confusing >>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >>Could it be fibromyalgia? >>Would that cause little red bumps? >>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >>And we all have go private meds >>Its shocking! >>Thanks for listening >>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >>I shall get doxy capsules however. >>Tc everyone >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Oops I meant the 100 2 x a day is a standard starting dose. Most Lyme docs start with the 200 2 x a day to hit the bacteria hard but for some the herxing is too severe. I've done both doses. After a few days the stomach upset went away.AandrayaOn Feb 22, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: If you start a low doses the bacteria can build up resistance to it. A low dose is 100mg 2 x a day- that is bacteriostatic- keeps them from reproducing. Studies show 200mg 2x a day is bacteriocidal. AandrayaOn Feb 22, 2012, at 4:44 PM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! Thanks C ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: > >Thanks aggi >I will look into it >C >Iv changed to I like trees >As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) > >Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >I really really will!!! > > > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: > >>Hi C, >> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> >>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >> >>Hi C >> >>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> >>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> >>I hope you can see this video. >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...> >>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >>Hi all >>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >>As soon as I picked them off >>More appeared >>And it went on n on for hours >>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >>It was like a horror film >>Cudnt believe it! >>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >>But I kidded self on they baby fleas >>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >>So >>I did see them attack my feet >>This,was august I think >>Last year >>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >>And that my toes were where they atacked >>So >>I wonder >>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >>No one has ever mentioned that. >>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >>If it isnt mites but it is co infections >>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >>Its all so confusing >>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >>Could it be fibromyalgia? >>Would that cause little red bumps? >>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >>And we all have go private meds >>Its shocking! >>Thanks for listening >>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >>I shall get doxy capsules however. >>Tc everyone >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Hi C, I don't think 50mg will be enough for this kind of problem. Most people here have taken/ are taking 200 mg or even 300 mg as a daily dosis. But I certainly believe it's an important step into the right direction! I AM crossing my fingers for you, good look C and take care! Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 23:44 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2012Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a dayI know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I goOr wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day?I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly!ThanksC------------------------------On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote:>>Thanks aggi>I will look into it>C>Iv changed to I like trees>As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-)>>Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules>Fingers crossed my tummy will handle>Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining>The herbs were not enough to stem this:-(>If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!!>I really really will!!!>>>>------------------------------>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:>>>Hi C,>> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases.>> >>>>>>________________________________>>Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012>>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections>>>>>> >>Hi C >>>>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get>> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >>>>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story.>>>>I hope you can see this video. "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>>>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM>>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections>>>>>>Hi all>>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem>>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites>>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked>>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes>>As soon as I picked them off>>More appeared>>And it went on n on for hours>>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere>>It was like a horror film>>Cudnt believe it!>>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas>>But I kidded self on they baby fleas>>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening>>So >>I did see them attack my feet>>This,was august I think>>Last year>>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet>>And that my toes were where they atacked>>So>>I wonder>>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?>>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere>>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?>>No one has ever mentioned that.>>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?>>If it isnt mites but it is co infections>>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?>>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?>>Its all so confusing>>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week>>Could it be fibromyalgia?>>Would that cause little red bumps?>>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?>>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this>>And we all have go private meds>>Its shocking!>>Thanks for listening>>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.>>I shall get doxy capsules however.>>Tc everyone>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>>>>>>,>>Thanks for being here also :-)>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >>>>>>Thanks for being there everyone. >>>> Re: meds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >>>>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >>>>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Oops good luck I was going to say... good looking is for later again :-) Von: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 0:16 Donnerstag, 23.Februar 2012Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections Hi C, I don't think 50mg will be enough for this kind of problem. Most people here have taken/ are taking 200 mg or even 300 mg as a daily dosis. But I certainly believe it's an important step into the right direction! I AM crossing my fingers for you, good look C and take care! Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 23:44 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2012Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a dayI know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I goOr wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day?I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly!ThanksC------------------------------On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote:>>Thanks aggi>I will look into it>C>Iv changed to I like trees>As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-)>>Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules>Fingers crossed my tummy will handle>Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining>The herbs were not enough to stem this:-(>If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!!>I really really will!!!>>>>------------------------------>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:>>>Hi C,>> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases.>> >>>>>>________________________________>>Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012>>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections>>>>>> >>Hi C >>>>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get>> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >>>>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story.>>>>I hope you can see this video. "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>>>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM>>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections>>>>>>Hi all>>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem>>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites>>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked>>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes>>As soon as I picked them off>>More appeared>>And it went on n on for hours>>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere>>It was like a horror film>>Cudnt believe it!>>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas>>But I kidded self on they baby fleas>>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening>>So >>I did see them attack my feet>>This,was august I think>>Last year>>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet>>And that my toes were where they atacked>>So>>I wonder>>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?>>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere>>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?>>No one has ever mentioned that.>>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?>>If it isnt mites but it is co infections>>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?>>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?>>Its all so confusing>>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week>>Could it be fibromyalgia?>>Would that cause little red bumps?>>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?>>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this>>And we all have go private meds>>Its shocking!>>Thanks for listening>>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.>>I shall get doxy capsules however.>>Tc everyone>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>>>>>>,>>Thanks for being here also :-)>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >>>>>>Thanks for being there everyone. >>>> Re: meds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >>>>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >>>>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 You will see ILIKE, it helped enormously.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:35:32 PMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsThanks aggiI will look into itCIv changed to I like treesAs although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-)Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsulesFingers crossed my tummy will handleWoll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum liningThe herbs were not enough to stem this:-(If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!!I really really will!!!------------------------------On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:>Hi C,> >What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases.> >>>________________________________>Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>An: bird mites >Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections>>> >Hi C >>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story.>>I hope you can see this video. "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>>bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections>>>Hi all>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes>As soon as I picked them off>More appeared>And it went on n on for hours>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere>It was like a horror film>Cudnt believe it!>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas>But I kidded self on they baby fleas>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening>So >I did see them attack my feet>This,was august I think>Last year>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet>And that my toes were where they atacked>So>I wonder>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?>No one has ever mentioned that.>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?>If it isnt mites but it is co infections>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?>Its all so confusing>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week>Could it be fibromyalgia?>Would that cause little red bumps?>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this>And we all have go private meds>Its shocking!>Thanks for listening>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.>I shall get doxy capsules however.>Tc everyone>>>>>------------------------------>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>>>>>,>>Thanks for being here also :-)>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >>>>>>Thanks for being there everyone. >>>> Re: meds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >>>>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >>>>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I took 100 mg 2x/day for 3 months and it didn't do much. I'm now taking 200 mg 2x/day. Not having stomach issues either. The capsules are the best I've found.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:44:18 PMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsWell its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a dayI know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I goOr wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day?I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly!ThanksC------------------------------On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote:>>Thanks aggi>I will look into it>C>Iv changed to I like trees>As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-)>>Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules>Fingers crossed my tummy will handle>Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining>The herbs were not enough to stem this:-(>If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!!>I really really will!!!>>>>------------------------------>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:>>>Hi C,>> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases.>> >>>>>>________________________________>>Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012>>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections>>>>>> >>Hi C >>>>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get>> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >>>>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story.>>>>I hope you can see this video. "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>>>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM>>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections>>>>>>Hi all>>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem>>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites>>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked>>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes>>As soon as I picked them off>>More appeared>>And it went on n on for hours>>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere>>It was like a horror film>>Cudnt believe it!>>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas>>But I kidded self on they baby fleas>>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening>>So >>I did see them attack my feet>>This,was august I think>>Last year>>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet>>And that my toes were where they atacked>>So>>I wonder>>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?>>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere>>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?>>No one has ever mentioned that.>>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?>>If it isnt mites but it is co infections>>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?>>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?>>Its all so confusing>>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week>>Could it be fibromyalgia?>>Would that cause little red bumps?>>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?>>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this>>And we all have go private meds>>Its shocking!>>Thanks for listening>>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.>>I shall get doxy capsules however.>>Tc everyone>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>>>>>>,>>Thanks for being here also :-)>>>>>>>>------------------------------>>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >>>>>>Thanks for being there everyone. >>>> Re: meds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >>>>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >>>>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Thanks Aa Shall take two a day then! Will eat plenty oats, They soothe the tummy And camomile peppermint tea! ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:56 PST Aandraya wrote: >Oops I meant the 100 2 x a day is a standard starting dose. Most Lyme docs start with the 200 2 x a day to hit the bacteria hard but for some the herxing is too severe. I've done both doses. After a few days the stomach upset went away. > >Aandraya > > > >On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: > >> If you start a low doses the bacteria can build up resistance to it. A low dose is 100mg 2 x a day- that is bacteriostatic- keeps them from reproducing. Studies show 200mg 2x a day is bacteriocidal. >> >> Aandraya >> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:44 PM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day >> I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go >> Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? >> I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! >> Thanks >> C >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: >> >> > >> >Thanks aggi >> >I will look into it >> >C >> >Iv changed to I like trees >> >As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) >> > >> >Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >> >Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >> >Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >> >The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >> >If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >> >I really really will!!! >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >> > >> >Hi C, >> > >> >What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> >Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> >> >An: bird mites >> >Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >> >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi C >> > >> >My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> > treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> > >> >These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> > >> >I hope you can see this video. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> >From: " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> >> >bird mites >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >> >Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> > >> > >> >Hi all >> >I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >> >Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >> >One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >> >I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >> >As soon as I picked them off >> >More appeared >> >And it went on n on for hours >> >My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >> >It was like a horror film >> >Cudnt believe it! >> >At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >> >But I kidded self on they baby fleas >> >As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >> >So >> >I did see them attack my feet >> >This,was august I think >> >Last year >> >I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >> >And that my toes were where they atacked >> >So >> >I wonder >> >...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >> >Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >> >Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >> >No one has ever mentioned that. >> >Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >> >If it isnt mites but it is co infections >> >How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >> >Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >> >Its all so confusing >> >N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >> >Could it be fibromyalgia? >> >Would that cause little red bumps? >> >Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >> >Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >> >And we all have go private meds >> >Its shocking! >> >Thanks for listening >> >Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >> >I shall get doxy capsules however. >> >Tc everyone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> > >> > >> >, >> >Thanks for being here also :-) >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> > >> >It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> > >> > >> >Thanks for being there everyone. >> > >> > Re: meds >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi there >> >Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >> >Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >> >My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >> >Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >> >Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >> >Even one on my arm,two on my legs >> >Last night they were bad too >> >Im extremely distressed >> >As got more agressive with treatment recently >> >Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >> >Bathing feet with allsorts every night >> >And yet its got a lot worse >> >I am realy upset >> >Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >> >Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >> >I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >> >Sprayed nylar inside >> >And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >> >I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >> >Because every time im bitten >> >The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> > >> >I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Thanks aggi Yeah kinda desperate! Need this to get better soon Doing my head in!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 15:16 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >Hi C, >I don't think 50mg will be enough for this kind of problem. Most people here have taken/ are taking 200 mg or even 300 mg as a daily dosis. >But I certainly believe it's an important step into the right direction! >I AM crossing my fingers for you, good look C and take care! > > > >________________________________ >Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> >An: bird mites >Gesendet: 23:44 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2012 >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections > > > > >Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day >I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go >Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? >I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! >Thanks >C > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: > >> >>Thanks aggi >>I will look into it >>C >>Iv changed to I like trees >>As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) >> >>Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >>Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >>Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >>The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >>If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >>I really really will!!! >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >> >>Hi C, >> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> >>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >> >>Hi C >> >>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> >>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> >>I hope you can see this video. >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> >>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >>Hi all >>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >>As soon as I picked them off >>More appeared >>And it went on n on for hours >>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >>It was like a horror film >>Cudnt believe it! >>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >>But I kidded self on they baby fleas >>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >>So >>I did see them attack my feet >>This,was august I think >>Last year >>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >>And that my toes were where they atacked >>So >>I wonder >>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >>No one has ever mentioned that. >>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >>If it isnt mites but it is co infections >>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >>Its all so confusing >>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >>Could it be fibromyalgia? >>Would that cause little red bumps? >>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >>And we all have go private meds >>Its shocking! >>Thanks for listening >>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >>I shall get doxy capsules however. >>Tc everyone >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Funny!:-) ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 15:23 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >Oops good luck I was going to say... good looking is for later again :-) > > > >________________________________ >Von: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> >An: " bird mites " <bird mites > >Gesendet: 0:16 Donnerstag, 23.Februar 2012 >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections > > > >Hi C, >I don't think 50mg will be enough for this kind of problem. Most people here have taken/ are taking 200 mg or even 300 mg as a daily dosis. >But I certainly believe it's an important step into the right direction! >I AM crossing my fingers for you, good look C and take care! > > > >________________________________ >Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> >An: bird mites >Gesendet: 23:44 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2012 >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections > > > > >Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day >I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go >Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? >I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! >Thanks >C > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: > >> >>Thanks aggi >>I will look into it >>C >>Iv changed to I like trees >>As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) >> >>Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >>Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >>Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >>The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >>If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >>I really really will!!! >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >> >>Hi C, >> >>What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> >>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >>Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >> >>Hi C >> >>My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> >>These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> >>I hope you can see this video. >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: " Sad Girl " <wherearetheangels@...> >>bird mites >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >>Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> >> >>Hi all >>I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >>Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >>One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >>I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >>As soon as I picked them off >>More appeared >>And it went on n on for hours >>My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >>It was like a horror film >>Cudnt believe it! >>At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >>But I kidded self on they baby fleas >>As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >>So >>I did see them attack my feet >>This,was august I think >>Last year >>I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >>And that my toes were where they atacked >>So >>I wonder >>...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >>Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >>Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >>No one has ever mentioned that. >>Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >>If it isnt mites but it is co infections >>How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >>Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >>Its all so confusing >>N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >>Could it be fibromyalgia? >>Would that cause little red bumps? >>Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >>Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >>And we all have go private meds >>Its shocking! >>Thanks for listening >>Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >>I shall get doxy capsules however. >>Tc everyone >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> >> >>, >>Thanks for being here also :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> >>It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> >> >>Thanks for being there everyone. >> >> Re: meds >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi there >>Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >>Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >>My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >>Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >>Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >>Even one on my arm,two on my legs >>Last night they were bad too >>Im extremely distressed >>As got more agressive with treatment recently >>Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >>Bathing feet with allsorts every night >>And yet its got a lot worse >>I am realy upset >>Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >>Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >>I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >>Sprayed nylar inside >>And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >>I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >>Because every time im bitten >>The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> >>------------------------------ >>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> >>I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Raw ginger made into a tea helps too. That is what I use, a mild ginger tea.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:31:33 AMSubject: Re: lyme n co infectionsThanks AaShall take two a day then!Will eat plenty oats,They soothe the tummyAnd camomile peppermint tea!------------------------------On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:56 PST Aandraya wrote:>Oops I meant the 100 2 x a day is a standard starting dose. Most Lyme docs start with the 200 2 x a day to hit the bacteria hard but for some the herxing is too severe. I've done both doses. After a few days the stomach upset went away.>>Aandraya>>>>On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:>>> If you start a low doses the bacteria can build up resistance to it. A low dose is 100mg 2 x a day- that is bacteriostatic- keeps them from reproducing. Studies show 200mg 2x a day is bacteriocidal.>> >> Aandraya>> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:44 PM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:>> >> >> >> Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day>> I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go>> Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day?>> I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly!>> Thanks>> C>> >> ------------------------------>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote:>> >> >>> >Thanks aggi>> >I will look into it>> >C>> >Iv changed to I like trees>> >As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-)>> >>> >Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules>> >Fingers crossed my tummy will handle>> >Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining>> >The herbs were not enough to stem this:-(>> >If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!!>> >I really really will!!!>> >>> >>> >>> >------------------------------>> >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:>> >>> >Hi C,>> >>> >What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases.>> >>> >>> >>> >________________________________>> >Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>> >An: bird mites >> >Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012>> >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections>> >>> >>> >>> >Hi C>> >>> >My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get>> > treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate.>> >>> >These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story.>> >>> >I hope you can see this video. >>> >>> >>> >>> >________________________________>> >From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>>> >bird mites >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM>> >Subject: Re: lyme n co infections>> >>> >>> >Hi all>> >I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem>> >Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites>> >One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked>> >I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes>> >As soon as I picked them off>> >More appeared>> >And it went on n on for hours>> >My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere>> >It was like a horror film>> >Cudnt believe it!>> >At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas>> >But I kidded self on they baby fleas>> >As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening>> >So>> >I did see them attack my feet>> >This,was august I think>> >Last year>> >I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet>> >And that my toes were where they atacked>> >So>> >I wonder>> >...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through?>> >Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere>> >Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten?>> >No one has ever mentioned that.>> >Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago?>> >If it isnt mites but it is co infections>> >How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards?>> >Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps?>> >Its all so confusing>> >N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week>> >Could it be fibromyalgia?>> >Would that cause little red bumps?>> >Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation?>> >Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this>> >And we all have go private meds>> >Its shocking!>> >Thanks for listening>> >Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments.>> >I shall get doxy capsules however.>> >Tc everyone>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >------------------------------>> >On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote:>> >>> >>> >,>> >Thanks for being here also :-)>> >>> >>> >>> >------------------------------>> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>> >>> >It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not.>> >>> >>> >Thanks for being there everyone.>> >>> > Re: meds>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >Hi there>> >Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking.>> >Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites?>> >My pin prick sensations have got worse recently>> >Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet>> >Toes partic second n third toes in both feet>> >Even one on my arm,two on my legs>> >Last night they were bad too>> >Im extremely distressed>> >As got more agressive with treatment recently>> >Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas>> >Bathing feet with allsorts every night>> >And yet its got a lot worse>> >I am realy upset>> >Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got>> >Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing?>> >I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into>> >Sprayed nylar inside>> >And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!!>> >I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections>> >Because every time im bitten>> >The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!!>> >>> >------------------------------>> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote:>> >>> >I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years.>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >------------------------------------>> >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 C-My gut issues actually eventually resolved on treatment, takes time though. Bart especially is known to cause gut issues but the other infections can as well. C- Hope you get some relief soon. Based on my experience and what others have said I do believe the biting sensations and for sure the crawling sensations are nerves malfunctioning. Lyme- borrelia with coinfections causes massive inflammation which effects the nerves. Eventually these sensations change to bad pain as the nerves loose their sheath, then it takes even longer to heal. Don't forget this is going on in the brain as well and causes all kinds of neuro-psych presentations. Treatment really does work. If you can keep doing the samento and banderol, it helps the abx to work even better- per Buhner- reknowned herbalist. You also need a good quality probiotic, take min 3 hrs away from abx, before bedtime is ideal. AandrayaOn Feb 23, 2012, at 5:31 AM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: Thanks Aa Shall take two a day then! Will eat plenty oats, They soothe the tummy And camomile peppermint tea! ------------------------------ On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:56 PST Aandraya wrote: >Oops I meant the 100 2 x a day is a standard starting dose. Most Lyme docs start with the 200 2 x a day to hit the bacteria hard but for some the herxing is too severe. I've done both doses. After a few days the stomach upset went away. > >Aandraya > > > >On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: > >> If you start a low doses the bacteria can build up resistance to it. A low dose is 100mg 2 x a day- that is bacteriostatic- keeps them from reproducing. Studies show 200mg 2x a day is bacteriocidal. >> >> Aandraya >> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:44 PM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Well its 8 wks for malaria but actualy 100 mg a day >> I know folk here take two lots but I was ginna try 100 mg a day see how I go >> Or wud I be better buyin capsules n splittin it,into 50 mg twice a day? >> I know I usualy get ill on meds so just wanna take it lightly! >> Thanks >> C >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 14:35 PST ILIKE TREES wrote: >> >> > >> >Thanks aggi >> >I will look into it >> >C >> >Iv changed to I like trees >> >As although im still sad its an akward name title to write to companies etc in email!:-) >> > >> >Ordered 8 weeks doxy capsules >> >Fingers crossed my tummy will handle >> >Woll take ant acid two hour before n yogurt two hour before to help tum lining >> >The herbs were not enough to stem this:-( >> >If doxy helps I shall be so grateful to folk on here!!! >> >I really really will!!! >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 13:14 PST Aggi Assmann wrote: >> > >> >Hi C, >> > >> >What also helps me as a spot-on spray on the skin, is isopropyl alcohol, 70%. It kills the mites instantly. Fill into a small spray bottle and whenever you feel a bite, spray it on, rub a bit and see/feel what happens. I used to keep these little bottles in every room of the house. Now there is only one bottle for emergency cases. >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> >Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> >> >An: bird mites >> >Gesendet: 22:45 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2012 >> >Betreff: Re: lyme n co infections >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi C >> > >> >My theory still stands. I believe we are getting bit, BUT the attraction to the body is because of the fungal problems. Once bit we get infections. Whatever is biting us is giving us Lyme, co-infections, mycoplasma, whatever. Some people like Doris didn't get any co-infections or Lyme. So not everyone gets it. She moved 3 times I think... and that did it for her, plus sleeping in a bathtub full of water. It is all so perplexing because the Bartonella does cause crawling sensations, scratch marks which are on the surface, and stretch marks, again on the surface of the skin. Lyme disease also causes similar sensations. I think the first time I was infected with Lyme Disease was in the 80's bit while gardening. I got incredibly sick out of the blue, developed what I called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and for a long time, months, I had a sensation of ants walking on the brain (inside the skull). I think that was Lyme, although I did not get >> > treated for it because the testing was so inaccurate. >> > >> >These infections can cause things that appear on the outside of the skin. I'll post a video I watched yesterday of a young woman who got bit by a tick and developed LD. She was in her teens. If you view the video, you can see has dozens of lesions on the skin. Very very sad story. >> > >> >I hope you can see this video. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> >From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...> >> >bird mites >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:32:18 PM >> >Subject: Re: lyme n co infections >> > >> > >> >Hi all >> >I did,have fleas in my old flAt before the mites problem >> >Then I started gettin bit bad wi mites >> >One day I put on a pair of shoes and all my toes attacked >> >I took the shoes off n lots of tiny little dots attacking n biting my toes >> >As soon as I picked them off >> >More appeared >> >And it went on n on for hours >> >My toes were under siege n they apeared out of nowhere >> >It was like a horror film >> >Cudnt believe it! >> >At that time I thought they must b somethin other than baby fleas >> >But I kidded self on they baby fleas >> >As I cudnt mentaly cope wi what was hapening >> >So >> >I did see them attack my feet >> >This,was august I think >> >Last year >> >I find it not a coincidence that the worst place for pinprick bites in my body is still my feet n soles of feet >> >And that my toes were where they atacked >> >So >> >I wonder >> >...is the bites I feel now a nervous system reaction to what I went through? >> >Tho that wudnt explain the crawly sensations n bites elsewhere >> >Or could it be that lyme symptoms or and co infection symptoms are worse at the site where the person has been previously bitten? >> >No one has ever mentioned that. >> >Or did the mites lay eggs that r hatchin now even tho left property two month ago? >> >If it isnt mites but it is co infections >> >How come when im bitten I get a tiny little red lump in my skin directly afterwards? >> >Surely if internal it wudnt make external little red bumps? >> >Its all so confusing >> >N for some reason I have deteriated a lot regards bites this week >> >Could it be fibromyalgia? >> >Would that cause little red bumps? >> >Does bartonella cause little red bumps that disapear quite quickly after the pinprick sensation? >> >Why is the medical system so ignorant about all this >> >And we all have go private meds >> >Its shocking! >> >Thanks for listening >> >Its a dificult thing to cure when not able aford medical assesments. >> >I shall get doxy capsules however. >> >Tc everyone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 05:36 PST Sad Girl wrote: >> > >> > >> >, >> >Thanks for being here also :-) >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 17:09 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >> > >> >It seems we are all in some stage of this... some of us have multiple infections we are trying to cope with besides the Lyme and Bartonella and Babesia... mycoplasma, Candida, etc. The list can go on and on, but it sure helps to hear how everyone else is coping with your stage, your personal struggles. It helps me enormously. How much of this is topical I'll probably never know... Bill seems to think it is a bug and I can't deny there are not bugs because most of us have found some of them. For me, I never found a bug, only fibers and maybe a bug wrapped in a fiber. But it sure is something that infests the house, whether it is a bug or not. >> > >> > >> >Thanks for being there everyone. >> > >> > Re: meds >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi there >> >Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >> >Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >> >My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >> >Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >> >Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >> >Even one on my arm,two on my legs >> >Last night they were bad too >> >Im extremely distressed >> >As got more agressive with treatment recently >> >Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >> >Bathing feet with allsorts every night >> >And yet its got a lot worse >> >I am realy upset >> >Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >> >Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >> >I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >> >Sprayed nylar inside >> >And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >> >I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >> >Because every time im bitten >> >The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> > >> >I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yes thanks linda,will do that Slippery elm tablets help as well as zantac ------------------------------ On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 06:45 PST Goldstein@... wrote: >Raw ginger made into a tea helps too. >That is what I use, a mild ginger tea. > > Re: meds >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi there >> >Thats realy good that doxy may have stopped pin pricking. >> >Do u think ur pin pricks were because of lyme infection n not mites? >> >My pin prick sensations have got worse recently >> >Today about thirty mostly big unpleasant sensations soles,of feet >> >Toes partic second n third toes in both feet >> >Even one on my arm,two on my legs >> >Last night they were bad too >> >Im extremely distressed >> >As got more agressive with treatment recently >> >Eg benzyol peroxide ten days all leg hands feet areas >> >Bathing feet with allsorts every night >> >And yet its got a lot worse >> >I am realy upset >> >Someone else said recently the more they did the worse it got >> >Do people get more pin pricks when they are herxing? >> >I recently bought two secondhand wardrobes to put my newly acquired clothes,bedding into >> >Sprayed nylar inside >> >And yet so scared cant bring self to take things outa bin bags to put into them!!! >> >I would be delighted mentaly if I knew the pinpricks were lyme or co infections >> >Because every time im bitten >> >The thought that its a mite is makin me deeply unhappy!! >> > >> >------------------------------ >> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 07:50 PST Linds J wrote: >> > >> >I very rarely post anything but do read all the emails when I have time. I have been on Doxy 300 mg for 6 weeks now along with Diflucan once daily and Nystatin 4 times daily. I haven't had crawlies in months. Pin pricks have stopped as well. 2 days into Doxy I felt some burning which I think is herxing. About 2 weeks into Doxy my joints have all been hurting as well as being nauseous and light headed at times. The Doxy did not stop the crawlies for me as that went away before I even went on it. However, it may have stopped the pin pricking. I do have Lyme and possibly had it for 20 years. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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