Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 In a message dated 1/1/00 2:15:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, lroche@... writes: << Here is my recipe for lotion bars.this is one of my best seller, 7 oz Beeswax 4 oz cocoa butter 4 oz shea butter 4 oz almond oil 4 oz emu oil 1/2 teas vitamin E oil E.O or F.O >> I have a question about this. I dont want to use emu oil. I have heard that it is a wonderful oil but is there a sub. that is almost as good as it? Or at least another oil that would work well in this recipe? Carli Get paid for being online?! Without any kind of fee??? You bet! <A HREF= " http://www.ior.com/~mmatrix/alladvantage/carli/ " >AllAdvantage</A> http://www.ior.com/~mmatrix/alladvantage/carli/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 How are lotion bars used? Do they need to age? How long do they stay in the mold? Thanks, angie -----Original Message----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 I make my lotion bars in deodorant containers. No, they don't have to " age " .. just harden up. Once hardened, you rub them on the skin. - Ela (000)___(000) Ela Heyn / @ @ \ ferret@... | | ======@====== http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5483 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2000 Report Share Posted January 2, 2000 I use low alpha tocepherols at 2% of final product volume as an antioxidant in my lotion bars. The shelf life depends on the oils I choose to put in there. That varies. - Ela (000)___(000) Ela Heyn / @ @ \ ferret@... | | ======@====== http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5483 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2000 Report Share Posted January 2, 2000 >Is a preservative necessary to prevent the oils/butters from going rancid? >What is the expected shelf life of your bars? Hi Vivien. Although some of the butters have a long shelf life, in my opinion you do need an antioxidant to prevent rancidity. The only antioxidants I have experience with are mixed tocopherols and BHT although there are others. Unless you intend to mass produce your lotion bars, you will probably find it easier to use mixed tocopherols. Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. achil@... http://houseofscents.safeshopper.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2000 Report Share Posted January 3, 2000 In a message dated 1/3/00 4:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, evaframe@... writes: << Hi Again !! Just tried Carli's receipe for lotion bars and they are just beautiful >> Is there another Carli on the list? LOL because I dont remember sending a lotion bar recipe. Although I must admitt that I have no memmory what so ever. Could you forward this to me please? Carli Get paid for being online?! Without any kind of fee??? You bet! <A HREF= " http://www.ior.com/~mmatrix/alladvantage/carli/ " >AllAdvantage</A> http://www.ior.com/~mmatrix/alladvantage/carli/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2000 Report Share Posted January 3, 2000 In a message dated 1/3/00 4:11:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, evaframe@... writes: << Does anyone have an easier clean up method than soap & water - it takes forever? The other question !! What can I put these beautiful little gems in to " package " them? >> Eva, Try lemon eo in cleaning the beeswax, it works! A lot of people put lotion bars into deodorant containers. Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2000 Report Share Posted January 4, 2000 May I have this recipe? Please email me privately or post to list. Thanks:) Angie W. halpw@... -----Original Message----- From: evaframe@... <evaframe@...> d >From: evaframe@... > >Hi Again !! Just tried Carli's receipe for lotion bars and they are just >beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 If you mean the clean-up of your equipment used to make these...I use a clean large can set inside of a pan of water to melt my waxes & oils and use separate cans if I have used any scent and I always use the same stir spoon(wooden and have already bent my wax can to form a " lip " to pour so I don't use any ladles. It is a matter of simply dumping out out the hot water from your outside pan. and storing your equipment until the next batch. Deb ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2000 Report Share Posted January 14, 2000 I store mine in a tupperware type container in the refrigerator. Have no problems with them, other than catching my DH about to pop one in his mouth one day =:0......I can say be sure to label the container, but that didn't seem to work at first without verbal warning. ...Joann In a message dated 00-01-14 18:18:50 EST, evaframe@... writes: << In the mean time I had them stored in a tupperware container, and they just feel like they are drying out a bit..not as silky smooth as they were. Is this the nature of a lotion bar? Is it perhaps because I do not as yet have a proper container for them? Has this happened to anyone else? Please advise, if anyone can help me out!! Thanks alot. Eva in TO >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2000 Report Share Posted June 6, 2000 Could someone point me in the direction of some lotion bar recipes? I would greatly appreciate it. Drae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 > The best hint I've ever gotten (I *wish* I could claim it as my own, but it's > not!) was to use a recycled can (like a large soup can, or coffee can, but > soup works better) in a pan of water as a double boiler for things like this, > with beeswax. Hi Lynne. This is a good idea, I have been using it myself for a long time, mostly for candles but I have used it for lotion bars and lip balm as well. I have more cans laying around the house with wax in them than you can shake a stick at. Every now and then I melt them and make a mixed grill candle with several different colors and several different scents. I have another idea that may appeal to people that make a lot of lotion bars. Buy a Presto cooker and drill a hole close to the bottom and connect a faucet to it. I think they hold about six quarts and are ideal for melting wax, butters, etc. You can either transfer the melted ingredients to smaller containers for adding scent, or if you are making a large batch of the same scent, you can fill your lotion bar containers direct from the faucet. The nice thing about them is they do have a temperature control. Another thing to consider is using glass beakers (Pyrex) instead of cans. You can buy a whole case for around $30 at 12 to the case. The larger ones are 6 to a case, and the real large ones (2000 ml) you buy individually. Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity. www.houseofscents.com Cosmeticinfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 In a message dated 10/17/00 4:47:39 AM Central Daylight Time, egroups writes: << Does any know if you can make lotion bars out of M & P, >> I've never heard of putting any kind of soap in a Lotion Stick. Usually they are combinations of oils, butters, beeswax, cocoa butter. Anybody put soap in theirs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 Thanks for the receipe Shaye. I will definitly have to give this a try real soon. I have never used bees wax in anything. I see some of the soap receipes have it , but I don't really know what it does. Can you explain this? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 I think that when it's in soap, its added for hardness. I've seen those hand dip things and they are suppose to moisturize, but I dont think that there is enuf beeswax in soap to do that. So, for hardness is the answer to your question. Arnt those lids a kiler?? hubby kinda took some tin snips and snipped the little striped thin spots around the edge, (striped thin spots=tecnical term lol) And then got it open. they have a tool to open them with, but I dont have one. i try not to totaly close it once its opened or forget it lol. Tip for lotion bars: When you make lotion bars, melt the beeswax first in a double boiler or in microwave, or in the oven, cuz its the hardest to melt. then keep it on low heat when you add in the rest of the oils and butters. Shaye > Thanks for the receipe Shaye. I will definitly have to give this a try real > soon. I have never used bees wax in anything. I see some of the soap > receipes have it , but I don't really know what it does. Can you explain > this? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 Shaye--Is that all your lotion recipe is? Holy cow! That is soooo similar to my lip balm recipe. have my vit.e in a bottle. Any clue as to what the 4 cap. equivalent would be? Somewhere between 1/2 and 1 tsp? > I agree, I use coconut oil in my lotion bars as well, you can also > use it in lip balms. A good base rule of thumb is like: > > 1/3 beeswax > 1/3 oil (almond, apricot, ect..)or combination > 1/3 hard oil or butter (coconut, shea, cocobutter ect..)or combination > > then aobut 4 vit. e capsuls per 6 oz of lotion bar mix. > > Shaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 , Im not sure about that, I just got some in a bottle too so I woulnt have to be squeezing all those capsules. Cuz usualy I make enuf at a time I have to squeeze a LOT of capsuls.. Kina hard on my ole fingers ya know LOL. I have to make some more base in the next few days, and I'll measure what it comes to. still at it today! Shaye > > I agree, I use coconut oil in my lotion bars as well, you can also > > use it in lip balms. A good base rule of thumb is like: > > > > 1/3 beeswax > > 1/3 oil (almond, apricot, ect..)or combination > > 1/3 hard oil or butter (coconut, shea, cocobutter ect..)or > combination > > > > then aobut 4 vit. e capsuls per 6 oz of lotion bar mix. > > > > Shaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Deb, The person that gave me the receipe never said anything about beeswax. So I think that was the whole problem. Thanks for your help. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 lotion bars shouldn't be kept in the fridge to harden up after making and shouldn't melt unless you are outside at a summer show in say 100 degree weather(ask me how I know!) but I would be willing to bet you didn't use enough hard oils. I use the basic 1/3 of cocobutter, 1/3 of coconut oil(solid variety), and 1/3 beeswax.Even my softer massage oil bars don't need fridging.E-mail me if you need more help. HTH Deb lotion bars > Last night I made a small batch of lotion bars, and stuck them in the frig. > while I ran to the store. When I got home I took them out of their molds, > and they looked great. But this morning they were melted all over the > counter. Are you suppose to keep these in the frig all the time? I took a > scoop and put it in the bath this morning, but it made the water very > greasy. When I toweled off though my skin felt really soft. But I still > didn't like the oily feeling in the water. Or is this the way lotion bars > work. Kathy > > All posts to this list are copyrighted by the list owner and/or post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the list owner and/or post > author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are > personal opinions only. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Actually, you can make them out of hard oils when you are trying to make the really FAST melt ones for massage. That is how I do my massage bars and mold them in the candy heart shape mold tray. If you use the rule of three and you want them softer, then just add a bit more coconut oil or even some liquid oil like almond, olive etc. I happen to like them more solid so the warmth of folks hands is what melts them and they last longer. Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 I would definetly remelt what you have, and add some more oil. No use in wasting it. Just keep the heat as low as you can, and you shouldn't destroy any scent you put in. Hope this works ok. kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 Kathy That's what I thought (about cutting back on the bees wax) but now it's Sunday and I hate to end up trying different recipes when I need a good bar by tomorrow. Also, I hate wasting the products. I wonder if I can stick all the containers in the microwave to melt the stuff and reuse it by adding, say, more oil? I used one of the little decorated tins you got for me to keep for myself. Do you find that once you open them that the tops don't want to stay on good? If so, what I found was if you take the top and put it on its side on the counter and put a little pressure on it, you can "bend" it just a little to make it sort of out of round and then it will stay on. Just a little idea if you have the same problem. M Re: My turn for help , I only made them twice, and the first ones melted all over the counter, and the secon one turned out like yours. When I do my next, I am going to just cut back a little on the beeswax. I think that is what makes it too hard. Hope this works. kathyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Special Invite for membershttp://soapwerks.com/martinrectangle.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 I do remelt lotion sticks to rebatch to make them softer or harder. I think Melody at rainbow meadows has a page about making lotion sticks that tells you what proportions to maintain for a good bar. claire Alabu, Inc."Handcrafted Goatmilk Soaps for that sensitive someone"http://www.alabu.com Re: My turn for help , I only made them twice, and the first ones melted all over the counter, and the secon one turned out like yours. When I do my next, I am going to just cut back a little on the beeswax. I think that is what makes it too hard. Hope this works. kathyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Special Invite for membershttp://soapwerks.com/martinrectangle.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 Thanks, claire I'll check it out right now. Oops- what's the addy? M Re: My turn for help , I only made them twice, and the first ones melted all over the counter, and the secon one turned out like yours. When I do my next, I am going to just cut back a little on the beeswax. I think that is what makes it too hard. Hope this works. kathyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Special Invite for membershttp://soapwerks.com/martinrectangle.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2001 Report Share Posted July 28, 2001 Lizz- Thanks for sharing your recipes. After trying G's lotion bar, I'm dying to try some for me. Just haven't gotten around to it yet though. I've got everything but the beeswax! Colleen Country Meadow Creations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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