Food For Thought

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That was great !!!!.

Thanks for the info.

Ebony. food for thought

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food for thought

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<<It is not a discussion in the US, it is a requirement by the governing

authority to preserve. You may be able to make those choices in Oz, but not

in the US, at least not within the law.

>>

Pat,

Could you point me to the FDA reg that says it's a law....or the the " governing

body " that does? I've been through the FDA website several times and all I

could find mentioned was that if you didn't test your products you had to put a

warning label that the product was not tested for safe use.

Always looking to broaden my knowledge base....

Melody

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>From: Melody <melody@...>

>

><<It is not a discussion in the US, it is a requirement by the governing

>authority to preserve. You may be able to make those choices in Oz, but not

>in the US, at least not within the law.

> >>

>

>Pat,

>Could you point me to the FDA reg that says it's a law....or the the

> " governing

>body " that does? I've been through the FDA website several times and all I

>could find mentioned was that if you didn't test your products you had to

>put a

>warning label that the product was not tested for safe use.

>

>Always looking to broaden my knowledge base....

I'm not Pat but I have some information to add to your knowledge base.

This information was taken from the FDA's Guidelines to Inspection of

Cosmetic Product Manufacturers

http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/igs/cosmet.html

The same information is found in the Cosmetic Handbook, Cosmetic

Product-Related Regulatory Requirements and Health Hazard Issues

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-hdb3.html

ADEQUACY OF PRESERVATION

Cosmetics need not be sterile, however, they must not be contaminated with

microorganisms which may be pathogenic, and the density of non-pathogenic

microorganisms should be low. In addition, cosmetics should remain in this

condition when used by consumers. Some cosmetics, i.e., those containing

more than about 10% ethanol, propylene glycol, glycerol, etc., and cosmetics

in self-pressurized containers, are self-preserving and are not likely to

become contaminated with microorganisms.

The hazard of inadequately preserved cosmetics to human health has been

amply demonstrated by reports of staphylococcal infections in hospitals from

use of contaminated hand creams and hand lotions and the studies conducted

on eye area cosmetics. Regardless of whether a cosmetic becomes contaminated

during manufacture or during consumer use, the hazard is twofold, namely,

(1) the direct effect of microorganisms on human health and (2) the

circuitous effect on human health due to product contamination and spoilage,

product separation, or formation of harmful microbial metabolites.

Microbial contamination of cosmetics during manufacture was a major issue

during the 1960's and early 1970's. Since then, significant progress has

been made by the cosmetic industry towards implementation of sanitary

manufacturing practices, more rigorous microbiological control, and the

development of better-preserved cosmetic products. However, the problem of

adequacy of preservation of cosmetics to prevent contamination during

consumer use continues to be of concern to the Agency, particularly with

respect to cosmetics coming into contact with the eye.

The studies conducted to determine the hazard associated with inadequately

preserved eye area cosmetics revealed that microbial contamination of new

mascaras was rare but that many became readily contaminated with the

microorganisms found on the eyelids and fingers of consumers. If an

inadequately preserved mascara becomes contaminated with Pseudomonas

aeruginosa and the delicate cornea of the eye is scratched with the

applicator, the eye may become infected. P. aeruginosa is an ubiquitous

microorganism which may also occasionally be present on the skin. Corneal

ulceration may lead to partial or total blindness in the injured eye.

Several cases of corneal ulceration and blindness associated with

Pseudomonas contaminated mascaras have been identified. Eye area cosmetics

contaminated with Staphylococcus epidermidis or other cocci may cause

conjunctivitis or blepharitis.

The issue of adequacy of preservation of eye area cosmetics was addressed in

the Federal Register notice of October 11, 1977. The Agency announced its

intention to propose regulations and invited interested persons to submit

information on microbial testing methods and standards of performance

suitable to ensure that such cosmetics do not become contaminated with

microorganisms during manufacture and use by consumers. Since no useful

information was received about such methods, standards for determining

adequacy of preservation are now being developed for the Agency under

contract. The notice also stated that " FDA does not intend to await the

completion of the rulemaking pronounced in this notice of intent before

taking needed regulatory action. "

In addition to the inspection of an establishment for sanitary storage and

handling of raw materials and for sanitary manufacture of finished products,

determine, whether:

a. Each batch of cosmetic which is not self-preserving is tested for

microbial contamination before a batch is released for interstate shipment,

and

b. Each cosmetic, particularly each eye area cosmetic, has been tested

during product development for adequacy of preservation against microbial

contamination which may occur under reasonably foreseeable conditions of

consumer use.

Review the qualitative and quantitative composition of the preservative

system of each eye area cosmetic. Report findings in the EIR. When

collecting surveillance samples, select eye area cosmetics over creams or

cream lotions.

Maurice

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[Guest guest]

I tried to post this to the list earlier through the web, but it didn't go.

> Could you point me to the FDA reg that says it's a law....or the the

" governing

> body " that does?

Hi Melody.

I see that Maurice has pointed you to the information on the FDA site that I

was referring to. I do want to add to this though, to clarify a

technicality. I had mentioned that to stay within the law, we are required

to preserve. We all know in the US that the FDA does not have the power to

enact laws as this is the jurisdiction of the House and Senate. The FDA have

rules that govern the cosmetic business, that if we break, they have the

authority to fine us, or in extreme circumstances put us out of business.

In the event that a person got injured because we ignored those rules or

guidelines the FDA could act as a witness if criminal charges were filed

against us. This is not as extreme as it may appear as it is common practice

today to file charges against people with AIDS that deliberately infect

other people. The same logic could be used against a manufacturer that puts

their customers at risk. The more common course of action would be a civil

suit where even a novice attorney would have no trouble proving a case

against a manufacturer that doesn't follow FDA guidelines.

> <<It is not a discussion in the US, it is a requirement by the governing

> authority to preserve. You may be able to make those choices in Oz, but

not

> in the US, at least not within the law.

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity.

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Cosmeticinfo

[Guest guest]

<<The notice also stated that " FDA does not intend to await the

completion of the rulemaking pronounced in this notice of intent before

taking needed regulatory action. "

>>

Maurice (and Pat),

Thanks for the information. I'm curious what implication this has for

companies like Lush (I believe Nordstrom's has a shop in their store that does

this) who sell " all natural " skin care products containing no preservatives and

with warnings that the product has a definite expiration date (like about a

week)?

Melody

Rainbow Meadow Inc.™

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[Guest guest]

>From: Melody <melody@...>

>Maurice (and Pat),

>Thanks for the information. I'm curious what implication this has for

>companies like Lush (I believe Nordstrom's has a shop in their store that

>does

>this) who sell " all natural " skin care products containing no preservatives

>and

>with warnings that the product has a definite expiration date (like about a

>week)?

Hi Melody,

I've heard of Lush on one of the egroups lists and someone on the list said

that the Lush products' have preservatives listed on their ingredient

declaration. I haven't seen this line, so I am unable to confirm this as a

fact.

Maurice

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[Guest guest]

Melody,

Contrary to belief that they are all 'natural', Lush uses methyl and propyl

parabens in their lotions and cleansers and the usual chemicals in their

other products. Some of their chemists used to work for the Body Shop so

they are very similar. They do have a fresh line in the fridge which may or

may not have preservatives in them.

BTW They are a Canadian company.

Natasha

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Organic essential Oils & Japanese Natural Skin Care

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but on 30/11/00 9:46 pm, Melody at melody@... wrote:

> <<The notice also stated that " FDA does not intend to await the

> completion of the rulemaking pronounced in this notice of intent before

> taking needed regulatory action. "

>>>

>

> Maurice (and Pat),

> Thanks for the information. I'm curious what implication this has for

> companies like Lush (I believe Nordstrom's has a shop in their store that does

> this) who sell " all natural " skin care products containing no preservatives

> and

> with warnings that the product has a definite expiration date (like about a

> week)?

>

>

> Melody

> Rainbow Meadow Inc.™

> http://www.rainbowmeadow.com

> Check out our new FO's

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm curious what implication this has for

> companies like Lush (I believe Nordstrom's has a shop in their store that

does

> this) who sell " all natural " skin care products containing no

preservatives and

> with warnings that the product has a definite expiration date (like about

a

> week)?

I'd be very interested in any comments or suggestions on this.

I'm just starting out and very much want to be able to provide products of

quality that I would use myself designed for optimum results for the

individual (one reason I'm starting, I can't buy them here. I was thrilled

to be able to buy what I thought were natural products with eo's but I think

now that she was using a pre made base which must have contained

preservatives etc as there was no expiry date and all were kept out on

shelves. I would like to go even beyond that. The lady who made them sadly

passed away so I began to search on making my own and am very glad I have, I

love it)

I had considered that an option may be to do exactly that, make it clear

that these products are not preserved and must be treated as a perishable

commodity.

My focus is intended to be as a very personal, custom service to be packaged

in small bottles, possibly refridgerated and replaced often, depending on

what I find the shelf life to be (I'm hoping for a month but really haven't

done enough experimentation on it yet)

I completely understand that molds etc. can be growing sight unseen, but

agree also that it can be taken too far, to the point of paranoa, especially

for products that are not mass produced or expected to be sitting on shelves

for months.

I don't know if this matters, but I live in Canada and haven't researched

the laws or guidelines yet.

(sorry Melody for posting to you twice, I had meant for this to go to the

group, oopsy :0)

Peace be with you,

Rowyn

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[Guest guest]

> I've heard of Lush on one of the egroups lists and someone on the list

said

> that the Lush products' have preservatives listed on their ingredient

> declaration. I haven't seen this line, so I am unable to confirm this as

a

> fact.

Are there any outlines saying exactly what kind of preservatives they

specifically must be.

For instance if a person finds GSE or Myrrh satisfactory to prolong the life

of the product for a short time, could they list these as the required

preservatives along with the expiry information and still be within the

guidelines and safety requirments?

I guess another question would be by who's standards are we allowed to

judge. If we do our own experimentation and find like (I'm sorry but I

can't remember who posted about the Myrhh) that it works well for our needs

is that acceptable, or does it need to be scientifically proven with data

etc. Is there a standard?

Peace be with you,

Rowyn

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[Guest guest]

>Contrary to belief that they are all 'natural', Lush uses methyl and propyl

>parabens in their lotions and cleansers and the usual chemicals in their

I knew they were either a Canadian or UK company, but thought I heard they had

stores here in the U.S. which means they'd have to comply with U.S.

regulations.

Thanks though....guess that clears up the all natural angle (at least where

Lush is concerned). I'd understood though that Nordstroms in New York opened

up (or was going to about a year ago) something similar to Lush and that it was

all natural. Anyone in New York that could verify this?

Melody

Rainbow Meadow Inc.™

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[Guest guest]

>From: " Rowyn Wood " <rowyn@...>

>Are there any outlines saying exactly what kind of preservatives they

>specifically must be.

The FDA says that you must preserve adequately. I'm not sure what your

regulation say in Canada, but if you are going to be in this industry, you

should become familiar with them.

>For instance if a person finds GSE or Myrrh satisfactory to prolong the

life

>of the product for a short time, could they list these as the required

>preservatives along with the expiry information and still be within the

>guidelines and safety requirments?

You are required to have data on hand that supports the safety of your

product. Neither of the ingredients that you listed above are considered

effective preservatives without the addition of a synthetic preservative.

>I guess another question would be by who's standards are we allowed to

>judge.

If your product injures someone, you will be judged in a court of law.

If we do our own experimentation and find like (I'm sorry but I

>can't remember who posted about the Myrhh) that it works well for our needs

>is that acceptable, or does it need to be scientifically proven with data

>etc.

Here in the US, your needs, wants, or desires don't enter into it. You are

required to put out a safe product and the only way you can do that is to

use a proven and accepted (by the industry) preservative. Things may be

different in Canada, that I don't know, I do know that in Canada, you are

required to register every formula with your governing body. If you haven't

registered your formulas yet, you may want to consult with them as to what

is required for preservation.

Pat.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

Thanks for the information. I did some looking today and it is a little

confusing because they are changing things around a bit and it was unclear

as to if the changes are in place yet.

They still had information on the Cosmetic Notification which is the list

you where talking about I presume but in the new regulations it will be

replaced by the need to re register annually and provide a list of all of

your ingredients with each application. So I don't know which is in place

at the moment but there is an email address that I am going to write for

clarification. The scary part about this is that there also will be an

annual registration fee which could put me out of the ballpark since I'm not

planning on being big enough to support any huge registration fees. If the

fees to join the Canadian Cosmetic, Toiletry and Fragrance Association are

any indication, they are $1,500 annually.

As for preservatives, I found a section that was headed Microbial

Contamination and it said that products containing low levels of

preservatives or no preservatives should be included in the sample testing

program they (will?) have that is required 10 times yearly. This sounds

resonable to me.

Also as for labelling, they have a section called Avoidable Hazards. If an

avoidable hazard is associated with the use of a product, it may be sold on

the condition that a warning describes how to use or when not to use. (such

as I presume an expiry date and warning on perishable goods, such as

unpreserved skin care, I'll check) This also must be submitted with the

ingredient list.

So that's generally how it stands here by the look of it so far. I still

have a few more questions but this does give me an idea of how it works

anyway.

Peace be with you,

Rowyn

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The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than

the

British or Americans.

The French eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than

the

British or Americans.

The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks

than

the British or Americans.

The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer

heart

attacks than the British or Americans

CONCLUSION

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills

you.

[Guest guest]

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you are amazing, the best medicine you can spill in here, you aretruly gallant Sir Bobby...

Vicky P aka GypsyStar RJS <bobbyj85@...> wrote:

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[Guest guest]

OMG LMAO you are way too funny!!! I would love to retire that way,

hay don't even mind my body being heved to the sharks!!!

Gabby

> I found out how I want to retire. Actually when you think about it,

it's

> probably true. :>)

>

>

>

> ON A CRUISE :

>

> About 2 years ago we were on a cruise through the western

Mediterranean

> aboard a Princess liner. At dinner we noticed an elderly lady

sitting

> alone along the rail of the grand stairway in the main dining

room. I

> also noticed that all the staff, ships officers, waiters, busboys,

etc.,

> all seemed very familiar with this lady. I asked our waiter whom the

> lady was, expecting to be told she owned the line. But he said he

only

> knew that she had been on board for the last four cruises, back to

back.

>

> As we left the dining room one evening, I caught her eye and

stopped to

> say hello.

> We chatted and I said, " I understand you've been on this ship for

the

> last four cruises. "

> She replied, " Yes, that's true. " I stated, " I don't understand? "

>

> She replied without a pause, " It's cheaper than a nursing home. "

>

> Here's the proof -- when I get old and feeble, I am going to get on

a

> Princess Cruise Ship.

>

> The average cost for a nursing home is $200 per day. I have checked

on

> reservations at Princess and I can get a long term discount and

senior

> discount price of $135 per day. That leaves $65 a day for:

>

> 1. Gratuities which will only be $10 per day.

>

> 2. I will have as many as 10 meals a day if I can waddle to the

> restaurant, or I can have room service (which means I can have

breakfast

> in bed every day of the week).

>

> 3. Princess has as many as three swimming pools, a workout room,

free

> washers and dryers, and shows every night.

>

> 4. They have free toothpaste and razors, and free soap and shampoo.

>

> 5. They will even treat you like a customer, not a patient. An

extra $5

> worth of tips will have the entire staff scrambling to help you.

>

> 6. I will get to meet new people every 7 or 14 days.

>

> 7. TV broken? Light bulb need changing? Need to have the mattress

> replaced? No Problem! They will fix everything and apologize for

your

> inconvenience.

>

> 8. Clean sheets and towels every day, and you don't even have to

ask for

> them.

>

> 9. If you fall in the nursing home and break a hip you are on

Medicare.

> If you fall and break a hip on the Princess ship they will upgrade

you

> to a suite for the rest of your life.

>

> Now hold on for the best! Do you want to see South America, the

Panama

> Canal, Tahiti, Australia, New Zealand, Asia, or name where you want

to

> go? Princess will have a ship ready to go. So don't look for me in

a

> nursing home, just call shore to ship.

>

> P. S. And don't forget, when you die, they just dump you over the

side

> at no charge.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL OMG I love it! Thanks !

Shaye

ON A CRUISE :

About 2 years ago we were on a cruise through the western Mediterranean

aboard a Princess liner. At dinner we noticed an elderly lady sitting

alone along the rail of the grand stairway in the main dining room. I

also noticed that all the staff, ships officers, waiters, busboys, etc.,

all seemed very familiar with this lady. I asked our waiter whom the

lady was, expecting to be told she owned the line. But he said he only

knew that she had been on board for the last four cruises, back to back.

[Guest guest]

Food for thought

Worth more than a casual thought....

1. Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.

2. Don't worry about what people think, they don't do it very often.

3. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.

4. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

5. If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before.

6. My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.

7. Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.

8. A person, who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person. (This is very important. Pay attention! It never fails.)

9. For every action, there is an equal and opposite government program.

10. If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.

11. Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks.

12. A conscience is what hurts when all of your other parts feel so good.

13. Eat well, stay fit, die anyway.

14. Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.

15. No man has ever been shot while doing the dishes.

16. A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.

17. Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.

18. Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.

19. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it.

20. There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.

21. Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.

22. By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.

23. Thou shalt not weigh more than thy refrigerator.

24. Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world.

25. It ain't the jeans that make your butt look fat.

26. If you had to identify, in 1 word, the reason why the human race has not achieved, & never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be "meetings."

27. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

28. People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.

29. You should not confuse your career with your life.

30. Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance.

31. Never lick a steak knife.

32. The most destructive force in the universe is gossip.

33. You will never find anybody who can give you a clear and compelling reason why we observe daylight savings time.

34. You should never say anything to a woman that even remotely suggests that you think she's pregnant unless you can see an actual baby emerging from her at that moment.

35. There comes a time when you should stop expecting other people to make a big deal about your birthday. That time is age eleven.

36. The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above average drivers.

37. Your friends love you anyway.

38. Thought for the day: Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bonnie

Food for Thought

Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:19:27 -0000

Greetings Fellow Sprouters:

When this dialog first started ( last week ) I found it to be

informative and intresting. I no longer find that to be true.

One person at one point had mention that a " OT " be designated in

the subject head for off-topic...topics. I stated then as I will

state now. I disagree with designating the subject head with OT for

off-topic...topic...

The reason being... when you give carte blanche,folks seem to run

off on tangits and pretty soon the whole neighborhood has run-a-muck.

So being with this " sprouting " message board. Even tho they are not

designated with a OT does not mean they are still not off-

topic..topics.

A few folks have tryed to get peace and order back on the board.

And they seemed to have been viewed with opposition. ( one being

asked: Are you the moderator ? )

You need not be a moderator...to voice anything on a message board !

If a handful of folks would like to continue with the dialog at

hand can you do so via personal e-mails. And no,I am not a moderator.

At last count there were over " 30 " threads on the same topic.

Thanks for listening

Peace, Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

I never actually asked *anyone* if they were the moderator and I certainly never

insinuated that you had to be one to post. I don't know how you read that out

of what I wrote, either. I don't know who, if anyone, moderates this board.

Sincerely,

L. Mason

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In a message dated 06/04/07 19:24:30 Eastern Daylight Time, srewolf_bl@...

writes:

Greetings Fellow Sprouters:

When this dialog first started ( last week ) I found it to be

informative and intresting. I no longer find that to be true.

One person at one point had mention that a " OT " be designated in

the subject head for off-topic...topics. I stated then as I will

state now. I disagree with designating the subject head with OT for

off-topic...topic...

The reason being... when you give carte blanche,folks seem to run

off on tangits and pretty soon the whole neighborhood has run-a-muck.

So being with this " sprouting " message board. Even tho they are not

designated with a OT does not mean they are still not off-

topic..topics.

A few folks have tryed to get peace and order back on the board.

And they seemed to have been viewed with opposition. ( one being

asked: Are you the moderator ? )

You need not be a moderator...to voice anything on a message board !

If a handful of folks would like to continue with the dialog at

hand can you do so via personal e-mails. And no,I am not a moderator.

At last count there were over " 30 " threads on the same topic.

Thanks for listening

Peace, Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Peace to you..and thank-you for your reply. My apology,I could have

gone back to the original post to see what whas actually said. But

it was my decision not to do so.

The words referring to one being a moderator or not...were my own

words...my own thoughts...

Peace,Bonnie

In , newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Bonnie,

>

> I never actually asked *anyone* if they were the moderator and I

certainly never insinuated that you had to be one to post. I don't

know how you read that out of what I wrote, either. I don't know

who, if anyone, moderates this board.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L. Mason

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

No problem! :-)

-C

In a message dated 06/04/07 20:33:49 Eastern Daylight Time, srewolf_bl@...

writes:

Hi ,

Peace to you..and thank-you for your reply. My apology,I could have

gone back to the original post to see what whas actually said. But

it was my decision not to do so.

The words referring to one being a moderator or not...were my own

words...my own thoughts...

Peace,Bonnie

In , newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Bonnie,

>

> I never actually asked *anyone* if they were the moderator and I

certainly never insinuated that you had to be one to post. I don't

know how you read that out of what I wrote, either. I don't know

who, if anyone, moderates this board.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L. Mason

[Guest guest]

Ernest, Your welcome. " Happy Sprouting to ya "

In , " Ernest Willingham "

<99tomatoes@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks, Bonnie

>

> Food for Thought

> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:19:27 -0000

>

>

> Greetings Fellow Sprouters:

>

> When this dialog first started ( last week ) I found it to be

> informative and intresting. I no longer find that to be true.

>

> One person at one point had mention that a " OT " be designated in

> the subject head for off-topic...topics. I stated then as I will

> state now. I disagree with designating the subject head with OT

for

> off-topic...topic...

>

> The reason being... when you give carte blanche,folks seem to run

> off on tangits and pretty soon the whole neighborhood has run-a-

muck.

> So being with this " sprouting " message board. Even tho they are

not

> designated with a OT does not mean they are still not off-

> topic..topics.

>

> A few folks have tryed to get peace and order back on the board.

> And they seemed to have been viewed with opposition. ( one being

> asked: Are you the moderator ? )

>

> You need not be a moderator...to voice anything on a message

board !

>

> If a handful of folks would like to continue with the dialog at

> hand can you do so via personal e-mails. And no,I am not a

moderator.

>

> At last count there were over " 30 " threads on the same topic.

> Thanks for listening

> Peace, Bonnie

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sprout, or spout off (elsewhere) The choice is apparent in the name

Sproutpeople. Choose wisely.

newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...> wrote: Hi Bonnie,

I never actually asked *anyone* if they were the moderator and I certainly never

insinuated that you had to be one to post. I don't know how you read that out of

what I wrote, either. I don't know who, if anyone, moderates this board.

Sincerely,

L. Mason

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In a message dated 06/04/07 19:24:30 Eastern Daylight Time, srewolf_bl@...

writes:

Greetings Fellow Sprouters:

When this dialog first started ( last week ) I found it to be

informative and intresting. I no longer find that to be true.

One person at one point had mention that a " OT " be designated in

the subject head for off-topic...topics. I stated then as I will

state now. I disagree with designating the subject head with OT for

off-topic...topic...

The reason being... when you give carte blanche,folks seem to run

off on tangits and pretty soon the whole neighborhood has run-a-muck.

So being with this " sprouting " message board. Even tho they are not

designated with a OT does not mean they are still not off-

topic..topics.

A few folks have tryed to get peace and order back on the board.

And they seemed to have been viewed with opposition. ( one being

asked: Are you the moderator ? )

You need not be a moderator...to voice anything on a message board !

If a handful of folks would like to continue with the dialog at

hand can you do so via personal e-mails. And no,I am not a moderator.

At last count there were over " 30 " threads on the same topic.

Thanks for listening

Peace, Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It's also apparent, to anyone interested in the future of sprouting, that they

remain diligent about their interests. Information is power.

Sincerely,

L. Mason

Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio

Telephone: (888) 851-9035

Fax: (206) 350-5500

Email: solutionsradio@...

http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio

http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio

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In a message dated 06/07/07 01:46:35 Eastern Daylight Time,

creativeplane1@... writes:

Sprout, or spout off (elsewhere) The choice is apparent in the name

Sproutpeople. Choose wisely.

newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...> wrote: Hi Bonnie,

I never actually asked *anyone* if they were the moderator and I certainly never

insinuated that you had to be one to post. I don't know how you read that out of

what I wrote, either. I don't know who, if anyone, moderates this board.

Sincerely,

L. Mason

Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio

Telephone: (888) 851-9035

Fax: (206) 350-5500

Email: solutionsradio@...

http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio

http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio

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In a message dated 06/04/07 19:24:30 Eastern Daylight Time, srewolf_bl@...

writes:

Greetings Fellow Sprouters:

When this dialog first started ( last week ) I found it to be

informative and intresting. I no longer find that to be true.

One person at one point had mention that a " OT " be designated in

the subject head for off-topic...topics. I stated then as I will

state now. I disagree with designating the subject head with OT for

off-topic...topic...

The reason being... when you give carte blanche,folks seem to run

off on tangits and pretty soon the whole neighborhood has run-a-muck.

So being with this " sprouting " message board. Even tho they are not

designated with a OT does not mean they are still not off-

topic..topics.

A few folks have tryed to get peace and order back on the board.

And they seemed to have been viewed with opposition. ( one being

asked: Are you the moderator ? )

You need not be a moderator...to voice anything on a message board !

If a handful of folks would like to continue with the dialog at

hand can you do so via personal e-mails. And no,I am not a moderator.

At last count there were over " 30 " threads on the same topic.

Thanks for listening

Peace, Bonnie