Re: For about people around me itching

[Guest guest]

, I never noticed any fibers, but couldn't keep from noticing people around me beginning to itch and sometimes they would suddenly get big red splotches which would disappear after a little while. Never could understand that. From: jessnyc <helpnynow@...> To:

bird mites Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

Hi ,

Thank you for your response. It's good to hear from you too, and

I've thought about you too! Your experience mirrors mine pretty

accurately. I don't know whether the fibers are "alive" in the sense

we know, but to me they seem programmed somehow. I also see them

floating around, and I definitely got them from mites. When I got

rid of the mites completely, the fibers were already in me and have

never left me. I was able to reduce the amounts I used to have by

cleaning very often and getting rid of things, but I keep getting

re-infested.

One thing I've noticed is that they are programmed to infest

ANYTHING that I come in contact with. That includes people, places

and food. When I was at my worst, I was afraid of getting close to

people because friends/acquaintances would begin scratching their

hair, nose and face (the areas where I feel the most crawling) and I

could immediately sense the fibers were leaving my body because I

had goose pumps whenever I approached someone. It was weird, the

goose pumps would signal something was going on and immediately the

person started scratching. When I go to visit friends, I can see the

fibers begin to float around in their homes, and when I return to

that particular place, I start to get the crawlings in my scalp,

nose and face. It's happened for so long that I have definitely seen

a clear pattern.

So these researchers may be right, these must be nano products. How

could anyone explain this pattern?

I too, have found my ears plugs full of fibers. What I've done is

soak them in hot water with borax and epsom salts. When I take out

the plugs after several hours of soaking, I find hundreds of fibers

in the water. I look with a lamp and can clearly see there's lots of

them. I also use a lint roll and I've used it all over my head,

face, clothing, etc. I've found the stuff they talk about on TV:

Black, red and blue fibers. They're bright blue and bright red, and

some are just white or clear, and very long. Others are tiny.

What a mystery, but they're truly a pain. I wonder if it's true that

the only remedy is what Dr. Staninger says? Far infrared therapy?

Has anyone tried it?

Thank you , good to hear from you again,

Jess

On 3/19/2012 5:46 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Hi Jess,

It is really good to hear from you. I've thought

about you often. I'm in the same boat with the similar

questions about fibers. I wonder if there is any way to

get rid of the fibers permanently. I feel them floating

and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them.

Many on this site did not have fibers, but had mites

only. Their exposure to mites did not bring fibers.

Mites for sure can be killed, although with tremendous

difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but

they are part of what defines Morgellons. So many

people who had mites end up with the fibers. Some

people think they are a by-product of a mite or

parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are

alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they are

living, although don't have any idea how that could be.

Maybe investigators, although very controversial,

believe they are nano products, and I think they maybe

are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come

up with this as there are plenty of knowledgable people

who have said this... Dr. Hildegard Staninger for one.

When I had a microscope and was collecting fibers and

looking at them under the digital scope I found some

interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides,

cover them in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over

the top and look at the fibers over a period of months.

I stored them in a special box designed for slides.

The fibers themselves changed over time from month to

month (some did, some did not). Some developed what

looked like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't

found one that hooks up with software for an iMac which

I have now.

I think there are things that disrupt the energy of

the fibers. Scientists may have found a way to create

life and I think the fibers are self creating... in the

human body they have what they need to reproduce

successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes.

Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When

I put it on my hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin

out further so I stopped using it. So no, it isn't just

you Jess. It never was just you.

From: "jessnyc"

<helpnynow@...>

"Birdmites.org Website"

<bird mites >

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

Subject: So the fibers survive

coconut oil?

I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these

fibers. I bought

some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the

fibers somehow

managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly

like 10 or more

fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and

eventually I

began seeing more and more of them.

I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled

themselves

together? That's what it looked like to me, my little

jar is full of

some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red

or black, some

are also white and hard to see.

I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they

thrive and

reproduce in it.

Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills

them? I haven't

found anything that would really kill them.

Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it

just me?

Jess.

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[Guest guest]

It seems you were one of the lucky ones that never got Morgellons out of this. I know it is hard to think of it that way, but the people with Morgellons have Lyme and co-infections and their situation is more complicated. I never noticed that but other people have noticed that people around them start itching. Maybe I didn't notice ppl itching because I isolated for so long.From: "los" <kean2465@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:48:50 PMSubject: Re: For about people around me itching

, I never noticed any fibers, but couldn't keep from noticing people around me beginning to itch and sometimes they would suddenly get big red splotches which would disappear after a little while. Never could understand that. From: jessnyc <helpnynow@...> To:

bird mites Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

Hi ,

Thank you for your response. It's good to hear from you too, and

I've thought about you too! Your experience mirrors mine pretty

accurately. I don't know whether the fibers are "alive" in the sense

we know, but to me they seem programmed somehow. I also see them

floating around, and I definitely got them from mites. When I got

rid of the mites completely, the fibers were already in me and have

never left me. I was able to reduce the amounts I used to have by

cleaning very often and getting rid of things, but I keep getting

re-infested.

One thing I've noticed is that they are programmed to infest

ANYTHING that I come in contact with. That includes people, places

and food. When I was at my worst, I was afraid of getting close to

people because friends/acquaintances would begin scratching their

hair, nose and face (the areas where I feel the most crawling) and I

could immediately sense the fibers were leaving my body because I

had goose pumps whenever I approached someone. It was weird, the

goose pumps would signal something was going on and immediately the

person started scratching. When I go to visit friends, I can see the

fibers begin to float around in their homes, and when I return to

that particular place, I start to get the crawlings in my scalp,

nose and face. It's happened for so long that I have definitely seen

a clear pattern.

So these researchers may be right, these must be nano products. How

could anyone explain this pattern?

I too, have found my ears plugs full of fibers. What I've done is

soak them in hot water with borax and epsom salts. When I take out

the plugs after several hours of soaking, I find hundreds of fibers

in the water. I look with a lamp and can clearly see there's lots of

them. I also use a lint roll and I've used it all over my head,

face, clothing, etc. I've found the stuff they talk about on TV:

Black, red and blue fibers. They're bright blue and bright red, and

some are just white or clear, and very long. Others are tiny.

What a mystery, but they're truly a pain. I wonder if it's true that

the only remedy is what Dr. Staninger says? Far infrared therapy?

Has anyone tried it?

Thank you , good to hear from you again,

Jess

On 3/19/2012 5:46 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Hi Jess,

It is really good to hear from you. I've thought

about you often. I'm in the same boat with the similar

questions about fibers. I wonder if there is any way to

get rid of the fibers permanently. I feel them floating

and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them.

Many on this site did not have fibers, but had mites

only. Their exposure to mites did not bring fibers.

Mites for sure can be killed, although with tremendous

difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but

they are part of what defines Morgellons. So many

people who had mites end up with the fibers. Some

people think they are a by-product of a mite or

parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are

alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they are

living, although don't have any idea how that could be.

Maybe investigators, although very controversial,

believe they are nano products, and I think they maybe

are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come

up with this as there are plenty of knowledgable people

who have said this... Dr. Hildegard Staninger for one.

When I had a microscope and was collecting fibers and

looking at them under the digital scope I found some

interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides,

cover them in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over

the top and look at the fibers over a period of months.

I stored them in a special box designed for slides.

The fibers themselves changed over time from month to

month (some did, some did not). Some developed what

looked like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't

found one that hooks up with software for an iMac which

I have now.

I think there are things that disrupt the energy of

the fibers. Scientists may have found a way to create

life and I think the fibers are self creating... in the

human body they have what they need to reproduce

successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes.

Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When

I put it on my hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin

out further so I stopped using it. So no, it isn't just

you Jess. It never was just you.

From: "jessnyc"

<helpnynow@...>

"Birdmites.org Website"

<bird mites >

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

Subject: So the fibers survive

coconut oil?

I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these

fibers. I bought

some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the

fibers somehow

managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly

like 10 or more

fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and

eventually I

began seeing more and more of them.

I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled

themselves

together? That's what it looked like to me, my little

jar is full of

some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red

or black, some

are also white and hard to see.

I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they

thrive and

reproduce in it.

Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills

them? I haven't

found anything that would really kill them.

Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it

just me?

Jess.

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