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Hi all

Im so mixed up with all of this mite,stuff

The,loneliness n empty isolation has been makin me feel terrible as well as the

constant stress from this

Felt a bit loopy with the loneliness n just went a couple,day ago n got myself

another animal

Cant believe I did that

Becoz wi all the stress I had re mites with the one that died

N also me saying I wouldnt get another till all my symptoms cleared up totaly

Cos although I have n give afection now im scared every time the wee soul

scratches

An only been few days

Its a dog

I never even thought id get one

Im a cat person

Though I do like dogs too

But I just cracked up with loneliness

And I dont think my new flat infested

However my hands n feet stil bothering me

And got worse with bite sensations the two days the dog here

Though might just be as stoped doxy

Why were bite symptoms as bad as before after b on doxy three weeks!:-(

Oh im a mess emotionaly

Will treat dog with frontline

Hope n pray little dog be ok

Id feel sooo selfish if dog got these

But I realy just cudnt cope anymore!:-(

Im so confused

I just did it spur moment

N was saying to myself

Well I havent given it to any human

Why would it pass to dog

N not in infested house now

But have wear shoes nearly all time in house not flip flops

Keep my feet away from dog

Though pat with hands n worry cos get some bite sensation under nails

Please god

Please let the wee animal be ok

I just need to love n feel love like everybody does!:-(

Thanks,for listening

Ur confused friend

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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 23:16 PDT Aandraya wrote:

>You have two of the best LLMDs in New York if you can go back, there's some

waiting time to get in but they are the best- Horowitz and Cameron. I know

someone who saw Cameron and she loves him. He was the president of ILADS.

>Aa

>

>

>

>On Mar 19, 2012, at 11:57 PM, jessnyc <helpnynow@...> wrote:

>

>> Thank you, . Yes, I guess I could do that, but then there would have to

be a way to figure out my progress. I'd have to get a test done every so often,

and how would I know what doses to take? I don't want to do something wrong and

make these things more powerful or immune to these medications. Somebody here

would have to explain very well the process. If an MD can understand it, so can

we.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 3/19/2012 10:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

>>

>>

>> There must be someone who treats Lyme disease there in Mexico. I'll see if

anyone I know might know of someone too. But Jess you could get those drugs

over-the-counter.

>>

>>

>>

>> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@...>

>> bird mites

>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:50:47 PM

>> Subject: Re: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>>

>>

>>

>> It's been a little over a year, probably a year and a half that I've had

this. There's been months where I've felt almost symptom free, but I get

re-infested when I go back to places I visited when I first came back from NYC

with the huge infestation. My mother's house is one of those places, very

unfortunately. Nobody in her house has felt anything at all, it's just me.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Jess

>>

>>

>>

>> On 3/19/2012 10:47 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

>>

>> Jess lives in Mexico. Do you know of anyone there?

>>

>> From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...>

>> bird mites

>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:27:44 PM

>> Subject: Re: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>>

>>

>>

>> No, that is one of many combinations I was treated with. If you haven't had

it that long you could start with Bactrim DS, Doxy 2-400 mg a day, with

Voriconazole, artemisinin. But you need to see a Lyme literate practitioner

because you likely have babesia and bartonella which requires other meds. Dr.

Stricker in CA is excellent, don't know which part of CA he's in but he treats

Lyme/morgellons patients. How long have you had this? If more than a year it

will take long term treatment.

>> Aa

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:31 PM, jessnyc <helpnynow@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Thanks, Aandraya.

>>

>> " Voricon., levaquin, bactrim/ceftin rotation. "

>>

>> Would that be it? That's all you needed to get rid of Morgellons?

>>

>> Thanks.

>>

>>

>> On 3/19/2012 7:12 PM, Aandraya wrote:

>>

>>

>> 100%. I wear all my clothes, rarely clean now because I'm too tired anyway...

Now I'm dealing with other symptoms. Morgellons is a subgroup of Lyme, there

are sometimes bugs involved, sometimes mold, or all of the above. You

definitely have Lyme disease and have to treat it to get your immune system back

in charge.

>> Aa

>>

>>

>>

>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 7:49 PM, jessnyc <helpnynow@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Aandraya, would you mind telling me what medications and in what doses did

you take for the Morgellons to go away completely?

>>

>> So you no longer can get re-infested, right? Even if you go into infested

areas or wear infested clothing? Are you totally immune to it now?

>>

>> Thanks a lot,

>>

>> Jess

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 3/19/2012 6:45 PM, Aandraya wrote:

>>

>>

>> Just to add to what said, I found no quick fix for the morgellons

stuff. It took a solid year of antimicrobial agents- rx and herbal to cure that

stuff.

>>

>> Aandraya

>>

>>

>>

>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Goldstein@...

wrote:

>>

>>

>> Jess,

>>

>> I have a FAR infrared " Rainbow " which I use often. It does not seem to do

much to clear out the

fibers. Although I have rarely used in on my

head but mainly use it on feet, legs, abdomen and upper torso. It does warm the

body in a way I've never

experienced before... raises the body temperature. After being under the

Rainbow for 45 min to 2 hours I feel a laziness and lack of clarity... almost

like having had a few glasses of good wine...

>>

>> Read the new post from Aandraya. She knows a lot about this and has gotten

rid of the fibers. She has done far more medications for Lyme and

co-infections than anyone I know. She also knows more about Lyme and

co-infections than anyone I know. I'm going to defer to her because she

obviously knows more and done more... I'm in the same boat as you. I'm in the

learning curve on this... so good to hear from you!

>>

>> What is weird is that I do not get these things crawling on the face any

more. I have nothing that feels like a mite crawling in nose, eyes, eyebrows,

hair, ears. I get what feels like a fiber

falling on an eyelash very occasionally, I get symptoms of eyes blurry, watery,

when I don't take the combination of Doxy and Rifampin. The

combination keeps the eye symptoms in check, but so far has not solved the

problem and I'm about 4 months into taking the combination. The

greasy waxy stuff I get on my face, neck and head comes and goes in intensity.

I have stopped gettring the little papules and pimples that I had been getting.

>>

>> What I'm dealing with now is intestinal problems from the injections I've

been getting and am waiting for a message from my LLMD about whether to stop

meds until that gets cleared up. I suspect I might have the C. Diff...

>>

>> Dr. Staninger has a whole protocol and remember Zoe? She and her husband did

the whole protocol from Dr. S and were not helped by it after spending $$$$$$.

She did not get help until she started antibiotics. If you don't have her

protocol I'll post it again.

>>

>>

>>

>> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@...>

>> bird mites

>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:15:42 PM

>> Subject: Re: So the fibers survive

coconut oil?

>>

>>

>>

>> Hi ,

>>

>> Thank you for your response. It's good to hear from you too, and I've thought

about you too! Your experience mirrors mine pretty accurately. I don't know

whether the fibers are " alive " in the sense we know, but to me they seem

programmed somehow. I also see them floating around, and I definitely got them

from mites. When I got rid of the mites completely, the fibers were already in

me and have never left me. I was able to reduce the amounts I used to have by

cleaning very often and getting rid of things, but I keep getting re-infested.

>>

>> One thing I've noticed is that they are programmed to infest ANYTHING that I

come in contact with. That includes people, places and food. When I was at my

worst, I was afraid of getting close to people because friends/acquaintances

would begin scratching their hair, nose and face (the areas where I feel the

most crawling) and I could immediately sense the fibers were leaving my body

because I had goose pumps whenever I approached someone. It was weird, the goose

pumps would signal something was going on and immediately the person started

scratching. When I go to visit friends, I can see the fibers begin to float

around in their homes, and when I return to that particular place, I start to

get the crawlings in my

scalp, nose and face. It's happened for so long that I have definitely seen a

clear pattern.

>>

>> So these researchers may be right, these must be nano products. How could

anyone explain this pattern?

>>

>> I too, have found my ears plugs full of fibers. What I've done is soak them

in hot water with borax and epsom salts. When I take out the plugs after several

hours of soaking, I find hundreds of

fibers in the water. I look with a lamp and can clearly see there's lots of

them. I also use a lint roll and I've used it all over my head, face, clothing,

etc. I've found the stuff they talk about on TV: Black, red and blue fibers.

They're bright blue and bright red, and some are just white or clear, and very

long. Others are tiny.

>>

>> What a mystery, but they're truly a pain. I wonder if it's true that the only

remedy is what Dr. Staninger says? Far infrared therapy? Has anyone tried it?

>>

>> Thank you , good to hear from you again,

>>

>> Jess

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 3/19/2012 5:46 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

>>

>> Hi Jess,

>>

>> It is really good to hear from you. I've thought

about you often. I'm in the same boat with the

similar questions about fibers. I wonder if there is any way to get rid of the

fibers permanently. I

feel them floating and landing on my hands at

times. I don't know of anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them.

Many on this site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

mites did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with

tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they are part of

what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites end up with the fibers.

Some people think they are a by-product of a mite or parasite, or bacteria and

some ppl

believe they are alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they are

living, although don't have any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators,

although very controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they

maybe are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this as

there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this... Dr. Hildegard

Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was collecting fibers and

looking at them under the digital scope I found some interesting

things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover them in emersion oil and a thin

glass sheet over the top and look at the fibers over a period of months. I

stored them in a special box designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed

over time from month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what

looked like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

>>

>> I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one that hooks up

with software for an iMac which I have now.

>>

>> I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers. Scientists

may have found a way to create life and I think the fibers are self creating...

in the human body they have what they need to reproduce successfully. They also

seem to reproduce in homes. Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

>>

>> I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my hands

and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped using it. So no, it

isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

>>

>>

>>

>> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@...>

>> " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

>> Subject: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>>

>> I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for

these fibers. I bought

>> some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

>>

>> When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

>> managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or more

>> fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually I

>> began seeing more and more of them.

>>

>> I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

>> together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full of

>> some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black, some

>> are also white and hard to see.

>>

>> I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

>> reproduce in it.

>>

>> Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

>> found anything that would really kill them.

>>

>> Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>>

>> Jess.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>>

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Have 2 dogs, 1 cat. Never reinfested by either. I live a normal life free of

this beast. Without expensive doctors, and meds. Still do lots of maintenance

for myself and furry friends, never will let my guard down. That is just common

sense to not be reinfected.

> > >>

> > >> Hi Jess,

> > >>

> > >> It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

> > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

> > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

> > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

> > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

> > this site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

> > mites did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although

> > with tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but

> > they are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had

> > mites end up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-

> > product of a mite or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl

> > believe they are alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they

> > are living, although don't have any idea how that could be. Maybe

> > investigators, although very controversial, believe they are nano

> > products, and I think they maybe are. That's just an opinion... I'm

> > not the one to come up with this as there are plenty of knowledgable

> > people who have said this... Dr. Hildegard Staninger for one. When I

> > had a microscope and was collecting fibers and looking at them under

> > the digital scope I found some

> > interesting

> > things. I

> > would put the fibers on slides, cover them in emersion oil and a

> > thin glass sheet over the top and look at the fibers over a period

> > of months. I stored them in a special box designed for slides. The

> > fibers themselves changed over time from month to month (some did,

> > some did not). Some developed what looked like a pin head. I never

> > saw any of them move.

> > >>

> > >> I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

> > that hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

> > >>

> > >> I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

> > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

> > fibers are self creating... in the human body they have what they

> > need to reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in

> > homes. Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

> > >>

> > >> I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on

> > my hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

> > using it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@...>

> > >> " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

> > >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

> > >> Subject: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

> > >>

> > >> I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

> > bought

> > >> some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

> > >>

> > >> When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

> > >> managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

> > more

> > >> fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and

> > eventually I

> > >> began seeing more and more of them.

> > >>

> > >> I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

> > >> together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

> > of

> > >> some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

> > some

> > >> are also white and hard to see.

> > >>

> > >> I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

> > >> reproduce in it.

> > >>

> > >> Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

> > >> found anything that would really kill them.

> > >>

> > >> Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

> > >>

> > >> Jess.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ------------------------------------

> > >>

> > >>

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Immune system made me susceptible to demodex face mites, and bird mites,

springtail. Lyme probably being the culprit breaking down my immune.

I have found lye soap liquid with added tea tree oil very effective, also for

dogs bath. Bag balm with flower sulfur blended in for face neck. Be sure and

coat eyebrows. Keep sulfur away from direct contact with eye. Also if one could

take the smell, nu stock, again keep away from eyes. Cheapest buy for nu stock

is dr foster and smith. Great for human, and pet.

For lashes and quick refresher use mms spritzer spray. I also use mms and msm

flower of sulfur internally. Each there own . My animals use msm and DE. MMS

infection or virus is involved. I still take mms prevention of 6 drops 3 days a

week. I have not had so much as a cold since taking mms, msn, and flower of

sulfur. We as a nation are sulfur deficient. Our soil, irrigation, and food

storage has depleted this essential mineral.

However I firmly believe for me, antibiotic and other potent pharmaceutical,

contributed to my weakened immune system as well.

To each there own with this beast. From me to conquer and not tame, my immune

system is the true healer.

Part of strengthing the immune also was getting the parasites off me. Demodex

mites were part of my infestation on my face. There is theory much of the acne

is caused by demodex mites. China and other third world countries have dealt

with such for a long time.

http://www.ehow.com/way_5611217_cures-demodex-mites.html

http://www.zimbio.com/Acne+vulgaris/articles/y1tccBXp88a/Demodex+Mites+Cause+Acn\

e+cea

http://www.herbalhealer.com/nustock.html

> > > >>

> > > >> Hi Jess,

> > > >>

> > > >> It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

> > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

> > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

> > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

> > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

> > > this site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

> > > mites did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although

> > > with tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but

> > > they are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had

> > > mites end up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-

> > > product of a mite or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl

> > > believe they are alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they

> > > are living, although don't have any idea how that could be. Maybe

> > > investigators, although very controversial, believe they are nano

> > > products, and I think they maybe are. That's just an opinion... I'm

> > > not the one to come up with this as there are plenty of knowledgable

> > > people who have said this... Dr. Hildegard Staninger for one. When I

> > > had a microscope and was collecting fibers and looking at them under

> > > the digital scope I found some

> > > interesting

> > > things. I

> > > would put the fibers on slides, cover them in emersion oil and a

> > > thin glass sheet over the top and look at the fibers over a period

> > > of months. I stored them in a special box designed for slides. The

> > > fibers themselves changed over time from month to month (some did,

> > > some did not). Some developed what looked like a pin head. I never

> > > saw any of them move.

> > > >>

> > > >> I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

> > > that hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

> > > >>

> > > >> I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

> > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

> > > fibers are self creating... in the human body they have what they

> > > need to reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in

> > > homes. Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

> > > >>

> > > >> I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on

> > > my hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

> > > using it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

> > > >> " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

> > > >> Subject: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

> > > >>

> > > >> I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

> > > bought

> > > >> some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

> > > >>

> > > >> When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

> > > >> managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

> > > more

> > > >> fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and

> > > eventually I

> > > >> began seeing more and more of them.

> > > >>

> > > >> I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

> > > >> together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

> > > of

> > > >> some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

> > > some

> > > >> are also white and hard to see.

> > > >>

> > > >> I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

> > > >> reproduce in it.

> > > >>

> > > >> Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

> > > >> found anything that would really kill them.

> > > >>

> > > >> Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

> > > >>

> > > >> Jess.

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> ------------------------------------

> > > >>

> > > >>

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Hello all,

Back again, I am.

Hey ILIKE TREES, my heart goes out to you. In 2007 I put down my cat as she was

infested just like me, horrible 4 months. Since then I have seen these pass on

to a friends 2 cats and now a dog where I am living. Emotionally speaking this

is very difficult. I hear your anguish, I too have felt that way. Enjoy the

love you share with your dog.

As for the mental side of this challenge, I have been using EFT, affirmations

and the like to create an emotional life preserver for myself. It's proven to

keep me going emotionally, even when I was homeless for a stretch.

There is a guy out there named Craig and he created EFT, eftuniverse.com

He also wrote a wonderful booklet called " Palace of Possibilities " , about using

affirmations and EFT to create a more effective way to care for our emotional

well being. http://www.ernestlmartin.com/images/Palaceof.pdf

Another man Dr. Mercola, combines Craigs EFT & Affirmations, and adds a

mirror for even greater effect. http://eft.mercola.com/

I have used the EFT, affirmations and the mirror and will attest that they are

working for me. I just however need to use them more consistently, (many times

each day). These techniques can turn my emotional state right back into a

positive direction. :)

Another great book I have been using is " The Rock Warriors Way " by Arno Ilgner.

This is written for rock climbers, BUT in it, Arno teaches how to use your mind

in a more effective way to solve issues and to focus on possibilities instead of

getting lost in " I can't do this " . This book has been really helpful for me.

Our dog here is named " Jack " . He's playful as hell and always soliciting a

partner in his playtime. It is both heartbreaking and wonderful, as I too need

that affection and love in my life. It has been difficult walking away from

many interested women these last 5 years.

So hang in there, do something fun to lift your spirits. Sometimes I google

" Jeff Dunham and Peanut " for a laugh on Youtube.

Be well

:)

Some of my favorite affirmations:

" My diet is incredibly nutritious "

" I have an incredible inner peace "

" My digestive tract is as clean as a whistle and full of friendly bacteria "

" I love my life "

" My mind is full of loving peaceful thoughts "

" I earn easily and consistently more than enough money to meet all my needs "

" I'm the happiest and healthiest I have ever been "

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Hey ,

I've read of TAT, just never tried it. Glad you have someone you can work with

for the emotional stuff. May the 2 of you find & create that missing piece...

I'm about to start a week long intestinal cleanse, Saturday or Sunday. Also

have been using Tea tree oil in my oil pulling and i think it is having a

positive impact.

Be well.

>

> Those are good affirmations sidepull. I am scheduling to do more EFT... I did

it for a while, but got stuck in a reversal so asked a friend who is a

psychotherapist (I'll pay her) to help me... she teaches TAT and has done lots

of EFT in the past, but prefers TAT. I really like your affirmations too and may

use some of those. They really rock my socks.

>

> Re: feel like a crazy mixed up kid :-(

>

> Hello all,

>

> Back again, I am.

>

> Hey ILIKE TREES, my heart goes out to you. In 2007 I put down my cat as she

was infested just like me, horrible 4 months. Since then I have seen these pass

on to a friends 2 cats and now a dog where I am living. Emotionally speaking

this is very difficult. I hear your anguish, I too have felt that way. Enjoy the

love you share with your dog.

>

> As for the mental side of this challenge, I have been using EFT, affirmations

and the like to create an emotional life preserver for myself. It's proven to

keep me going emotionally, even when I was homeless for a stretch.

>

> There is a guy out there named Craig and he created EFT, eftuniverse.com

He also wrote a wonderful booklet called " Palace of Possibilities " , about using

affirmations and EFT to create a more effective way to care for our emotional

well being. http://www.ernestlmartin.com/images/Palaceof.pdf

>

> Another man Dr. Mercola, combines Craigs EFT & Affirmations, and adds a

mirror for even greater effect. http://eft.mercola.com/

> I have used the EFT, affirmations and the mirror and will attest that they are

working for me. I just however need to use them more consistently, (many times

each day). These techniques can turn my emotional state right back into a

positive direction. :)

>

> Another great book I have been using is " The Rock Warriors Way " by Arno

Ilgner. This is written for rock climbers, BUT in it, Arno teaches how to use

your mind in a more effective way to solve issues and to focus on possibilities

instead of getting lost in " I can't do this " . This book has been really helpful

for me.

>

> Our dog here is named " Jack " . He's playful as hell and always soliciting a

partner in his playtime. It is both heartbreaking and wonderful, as I too need

that affection and love in my life. It has been difficult walking away from many

interested women these last 5 years.

>

> So hang in there, do something fun to lift your spirits. Sometimes I google

" Jeff Dunham and Peanut " for a laugh on Youtube.

>

> Be well

>

> :)

>

> Some of my favorite affirmations:

>

> " My diet is incredibly nutritious "

>

> " I have an incredible inner peace "

>

> " My digestive tract is as clean as a whistle and full of friendly bacteria "

>

> " I love my life "

>

> " My mind is full of loving peaceful thoughts "

>

> " I earn easily and consistently more than enough money to meet all my needs "

>

> " I'm the happiest and healthiest I have ever been "

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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Thanks Healinghope,

For the informative links.

I agree that my immune system was hammered too by the antibiotics, but also from

the effects of the chloronated water that I lived with for 20 years, living off

a municipal water supply. The chlorine in the water kills our friendly

bacteria. 40% of our immune system is in our intestines and if that friendly

bacteria is being killed off daily...

Be well.

:)

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Hi Jess,

> > > > >>

> > > > >> It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

> > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

> > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

> > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

> > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

> > > > this site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

> > > > mites did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although

> > > > with tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but

> > > > they are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had

> > > > mites end up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-

> > > > product of a mite or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl

> > > > believe they are alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they

> > > > are living, although don't have any idea how that could be. Maybe

> > > > investigators, although very controversial, believe they are nano

> > > > products, and I think they maybe are. That's just an opinion... I'm

> > > > not the one to come up with this as there are plenty of knowledgable

> > > > people who have said this... Dr. Hildegard Staninger for one. When I

> > > > had a microscope and was collecting fibers and looking at them under

> > > > the digital scope I found some

> > > > interesting

> > > > things. I

> > > > would put the fibers on slides, cover them in emersion oil and a

> > > > thin glass sheet over the top and look at the fibers over a period

> > > > of months. I stored them in a special box designed for slides. The

> > > > fibers themselves changed over time from month to month (some did,

> > > > some did not). Some developed what looked like a pin head. I never

> > > > saw any of them move.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

> > > > that hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

> > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

> > > > fibers are self creating... in the human body they have what they

> > > > need to reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in

> > > > homes. Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on

> > > > my hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

> > > > using it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

> > > > >> " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

> > > > >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

> > > > >> Subject: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

> > > > bought

> > > > >> some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

> > > > >> managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

> > > > more

> > > > >> fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and

> > > > eventually I

> > > > >> began seeing more and more of them.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

> > > > >> together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

> > > > of

> > > > >> some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

> > > > some

> > > > >> are also white and hard to see.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

> > > > >> reproduce in it.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

> > > > >> found anything that would really kill them.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Jess.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> ------------------------------------

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

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,

I'm using a cleanse from Dr. Schulze, he's known on curezone.com.

As for the oil pulling, I'm a believer. I have been using Sesame oil (cold

pressed) several times over the past 4 years. When I'm not on it I swear I can

feel the bacteria regrowing back into my teeth, gums and jaw. So I'd say Oil

pulling for everyone, every day. I am currently using a Sesame oil from

Loriva, that I get from several different supermarkets. I recently added tea

tree oil to the sesame oil as per Jon Barrons directions (see the 1st link

below) and this is even better. It may be helping with my mites as well. I

really like that, :). I do my Oil Pulling 1st thing in the morning, right outta

bed. I swish for 20 minutes, spit it out and rinse with water & Hydrogen

peroxide and then brush my teeth. I think you can also use sunflower oil.

These 2 links are very informative for oil pulling and Root Canals.

http://www.jonbarron.org/detox/nl110404/oil-pulling-strong-immunity

With the link below, scroll down to " ELIMINATE ROOT CAUSES OF DISEASE IN YOUR

MOUTH " and read that.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1777634#i

The link between our mouths and our health is HUGE. In a normal mouth we are

constantly swallowing these really bad bacteria 24\7. Our body ends up fighting

itself... These same toxins are also delivered throughout our bodies by our

mouths.

Sad to hear of the carpel tunnel, I've had it too. My EFT therapist mentioned I

could just touch each EFT spot, without having to actually tap.

Be well.

:)

> >

> > Those are good affirmations sidepull. I am scheduling to do more EFT... I

did it for a while, but got stuck in a reversal so asked a friend who is a

psychotherapist (I'll pay her) to help me... she teaches TAT and has done lots

of EFT in the past, but prefers TAT. I really like your affirmations too and may

use some of those. They really rock my socks.

> >

> > Re: feel like a crazy mixed up kid :-(

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > Back again, I am.

> >

> > Hey ILIKE TREES, my heart goes out to you. In 2007 I put down my cat as she

was infested just like me, horrible 4 months. Since then I have seen these pass

on to a friends 2 cats and now a dog where I am living. Emotionally speaking

this is very difficult. I hear your anguish, I too have felt that way. Enjoy the

love you share with your dog.

> >

> > As for the mental side of this challenge, I have been using EFT,

affirmations and the like to create an emotional life preserver for myself. It's

proven to keep me going emotionally, even when I was homeless for a stretch.

> >

> > There is a guy out there named Craig and he created EFT,

eftuniverse.com He also wrote a wonderful booklet called " Palace of

Possibilities " , about using affirmations and EFT to create a more effective way

to care for our emotional well being.

http://www.ernestlmartin.com/images/Palaceof.pdf

> >

> > Another man Dr. Mercola, combines Craigs EFT & Affirmations, and adds a

mirror for even greater effect. http://eft.mercola.com/

> > I have used the EFT, affirmations and the mirror and will attest that they

are working for me. I just however need to use them more consistently, (many

times each day). These techniques can turn my emotional state right back into a

positive direction. :)

> >

> > Another great book I have been using is " The Rock Warriors Way " by Arno

Ilgner. This is written for rock climbers, BUT in it, Arno teaches how to use

your mind in a more effective way to solve issues and to focus on possibilities

instead of getting lost in " I can't do this " . This book has been really helpful

for me.

> >

> > Our dog here is named " Jack " . He's playful as hell and always soliciting a

partner in his playtime. It is both heartbreaking and wonderful, as I too need

that affection and love in my life. It has been difficult walking away from many

interested women these last 5 years.

> >

> > So hang in there, do something fun to lift your spirits. Sometimes I google

" Jeff Dunham and Peanut " for a laugh on Youtube.

> >

> > Be well

> >

> > :)

> >

> > Some of my favorite affirmations:

> >

> > " My diet is incredibly nutritious "

> >

> > " I have an incredible inner peace "

> >

> > " My digestive tract is as clean as a whistle and full of friendly bacteria "

> >

> > " I love my life "

> >

> > " My mind is full of loving peaceful thoughts "

> >

> > " I earn easily and consistently more than enough money to meet all my needs "

> >

> > " I'm the happiest and healthiest I have ever been "

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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The goverment approves pink slime and fluoride, makes one wonder, what are they

thinking.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Hi Jess,

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

> > > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

> > > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

> > > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

> > > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

> > > > > this site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

> > > > > mites did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although

> > > > > with tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but

> > > > > they are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had

> > > > > mites end up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-

> > > > > product of a mite or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl

> > > > > believe they are alive. I'm a member of the group that believes they

> > > > > are living, although don't have any idea how that could be. Maybe

> > > > > investigators, although very controversial, believe they are nano

> > > > > products, and I think they maybe are. That's just an opinion... I'm

> > > > > not the one to come up with this as there are plenty of knowledgable

> > > > > people who have said this... Dr. Hildegard Staninger for one. When I

> > > > > had a microscope and was collecting fibers and looking at them under

> > > > > the digital scope I found some

> > > > > interesting

> > > > > things. I

> > > > > would put the fibers on slides, cover them in emersion oil and a

> > > > > thin glass sheet over the top and look at the fibers over a period

> > > > > of months. I stored them in a special box designed for slides. The

> > > > > fibers themselves changed over time from month to month (some did,

> > > > > some did not). Some developed what looked like a pin head. I never

> > > > > saw any of them move.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

> > > > > that hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

> > > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

> > > > > fibers are self creating... in the human body they have what they

> > > > > need to reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in

> > > > > homes. Some may be programmed to carry diseases.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on

> > > > > my hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

> > > > > using it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> From: " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

> > > > > >> " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

> > > > > >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

> > > > > >> Subject: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

> > > > > bought

> > > > > >> some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

> > > > > >> managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

> > > > > more

> > > > > >> fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and

> > > > > eventually I

> > > > > >> began seeing more and more of them.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

> > > > > >> together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

> > > > > of

> > > > > >> some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

> > > > > some

> > > > > >> are also white and hard to see.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

> > > > > >> reproduce in it.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

> > > > > >> found anything that would really kill them.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Jess.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >>

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Great link info, thanks side pull. Will incorporate tea tree with my pull. I

know that coconut oil is not the preferred oil, still mine though lol:)

> > >

> > > Those are good affirmations sidepull. I am scheduling to do more EFT... I

did it for a while, but got stuck in a reversal so asked a friend who is a

psychotherapist (I'll pay her) to help me... she teaches TAT and has done lots

of EFT in the past, but prefers TAT. I really like your affirmations too and may

use some of those. They really rock my socks.

> > >

> > > Re: feel like a crazy mixed up kid :-(

> > >

> > > Hello all,

> > >

> > > Back again, I am.

> > >

> > > Hey ILIKE TREES, my heart goes out to you. In 2007 I put down my cat as

she was infested just like me, horrible 4 months. Since then I have seen these

pass on to a friends 2 cats and now a dog where I am living. Emotionally

speaking this is very difficult. I hear your anguish, I too have felt that way.

Enjoy the love you share with your dog.

> > >

> > > As for the mental side of this challenge, I have been using EFT,

affirmations and the like to create an emotional life preserver for myself. It's

proven to keep me going emotionally, even when I was homeless for a stretch.

> > >

> > > There is a guy out there named Craig and he created EFT,

eftuniverse.com He also wrote a wonderful booklet called " Palace of

Possibilities " , about using affirmations and EFT to create a more effective way

to care for our emotional well being.

http://www.ernestlmartin.com/images/Palaceof.pdf

> > >

> > > Another man Dr. Mercola, combines Craigs EFT & Affirmations, and adds

a mirror for even greater effect. http://eft.mercola.com/

> > > I have used the EFT, affirmations and the mirror and will attest that they

are working for me. I just however need to use them more consistently, (many

times each day). These techniques can turn my emotional state right back into a

positive direction. :)

> > >

> > > Another great book I have been using is " The Rock Warriors Way " by Arno

Ilgner. This is written for rock climbers, BUT in it, Arno teaches how to use

your mind in a more effective way to solve issues and to focus on possibilities

instead of getting lost in " I can't do this " . This book has been really helpful

for me.

> > >

> > > Our dog here is named " Jack " . He's playful as hell and always soliciting a

partner in his playtime. It is both heartbreaking and wonderful, as I too need

that affection and love in my life. It has been difficult walking away from many

interested women these last 5 years.

> > >

> > > So hang in there, do something fun to lift your spirits. Sometimes I

google " Jeff Dunham and Peanut " for a laugh on Youtube.

> > >

> > > Be well

> > >

> > > :)

> > >

> > > Some of my favorite affirmations:

> > >

> > > " My diet is incredibly nutritious "

> > >

> > > " I have an incredible inner peace "

> > >

> > > " My digestive tract is as clean as a whistle and full of friendly

bacteria "

> > >

> > > " I love my life "

> > >

> > > " My mind is full of loving peaceful thoughts "

> > >

> > > " I earn easily and consistently more than enough money to meet all my

needs "

> > >

> > > " I'm the happiest and healthiest I have ever been "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Are you feeding a sweet tooth...

Actually I was going threw my Coconut oil info and this was in it. " Prevent

periodontal disease and tooth decay " and " Kills bacteria that cause pneumonia,

earache, throat infections, dental cavities, food poisoning, urinary tract

infections, meningitis, gonorrhea, and dozens of other diseases. Kill fungi and

yeast that causes candida, jock itch, ringworm, athlete's foot, thrush diaper

rash, and other infections. " This was posted by Zoebess on Curezone.com

>

> Great link info, thanks side pull. Will incorporate tea tree with my pull. I

know that coconut oil is not the preferred oil, still mine though lol:)

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I was wondering how you new you were stuck in the reversal. I have a limited

understanding of reversals, am I'm missing something?

>

> Those are good affirmations sidepull. I am scheduling to do more EFT... I did

it for a while, but got stuck in a reversal so asked a friend who is a

psychotherapist (I'll pay her) to help me... she teaches TAT and has done lots

of EFT in the past, but prefers TAT. I really like your affirmations too and may

use some of those. They really rock my socks.

>

> Re: feel like a crazy mixed up kid :-(

>

> Hello all,

>

> Back again, I am.

>

> Hey ILIKE TREES, my heart goes out to you. In 2007 I put down my cat as she

was infested just like me, horrible 4 months. Since then I have seen these pass

on to a friends 2 cats and now a dog where I am living. Emotionally speaking

this is very difficult. I hear your anguish, I too have felt that way. Enjoy the

love you share with your dog.

>

> As for the mental side of this challenge, I have been using EFT, affirmations

and the like to create an emotional life preserver for myself. It's proven to

keep me going emotionally, even when I was homeless for a stretch.

>

> There is a guy out there named Craig and he created EFT, eftuniverse.com

He also wrote a wonderful booklet called " Palace of Possibilities " , about using

affirmations and EFT to create a more effective way to care for our emotional

well being. http://www.ernestlmartin.com/images/Palaceof.pdf

>

> Another man Dr. Mercola, combines Craigs EFT & Affirmations, and adds a

mirror for even greater effect. http://eft.mercola.com/

> I have used the EFT, affirmations and the mirror and will attest that they are

working for me. I just however need to use them more consistently, (many times

each day). These techniques can turn my emotional state right back into a

positive direction. :)

>

> Another great book I have been using is " The Rock Warriors Way " by Arno

Ilgner. This is written for rock climbers, BUT in it, Arno teaches how to use

your mind in a more effective way to solve issues and to focus on possibilities

instead of getting lost in " I can't do this " . This book has been really helpful

for me.

>

> Our dog here is named " Jack " . He's playful as hell and always soliciting a

partner in his playtime. It is both heartbreaking and wonderful, as I too need

that affection and love in my life. It has been difficult walking away from many

interested women these last 5 years.

>

> So hang in there, do something fun to lift your spirits. Sometimes I google

" Jeff Dunham and Peanut " for a laugh on Youtube.

>

> Be well

>

> :)

>

> Some of my favorite affirmations:

>

> " My diet is incredibly nutritious "

>

> " I have an incredible inner peace "

>

> " My digestive tract is as clean as a whistle and full of friendly bacteria "

>

> " I love my life "

>

> " My mind is full of loving peaceful thoughts "

>

> " I earn easily and consistently more than enough money to meet all my needs "

>

> " I'm the happiest and healthiest I have ever been "

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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