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Before AVS is done, if needed, be sure your ins will pay for it. One of our members was billed $27,000 (maybe more $36,000 but I cant recall exact numberfor it by U of Mich.

In a message dated 10/26/06 3:57:13 AM, gemchip67@... writes:

Hi Dr. Grim,

                   Thanks for the name again this time i won't loose it . I have been on those meds for 2 years, no adjustments ever, the only thing changed was thyroid replacement synthroid went up to .175mcg, My thyroid came out in 2005 from a large nodual, that is the time my endo also found the PA. Thanks for this group and for caring. Pam

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I am still on 80 of Potassium, 50 of spiro and a couple of blood pressure meds, guess i don't want to believe that this is as good as my life can be right now. I would appreciate the doctor's name at Baylor again dr.Grim,  Still hanging on to hope , racing heart in texas. Pam

I recommended Dr. at Baylor. 

50 of spiro is a drop in the bucket if your K is still low. I go up to 400 a day till things get better.  You should not require that much K if you are on enough spiro and are DASHing.   Have you ever been on higer doses of Spiro?

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D.

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

May your pressure be low!

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My son (5)( ocd) is awful with pain. He can stub his toe and you'd think he was

dying. On the other hand my daughter (10) ocd and bipolar is the opposite. She

once broke her finger and we never knew it until a week later. She also had

bacterial pneumunia, and the doctor said she wasn't acting sick enough to have

it. Her lung almost collapsed it was so bad,and she had to be hospitalized for 5

days. Maybe it's the bipolar that makes her that way.

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My son (5)( ocd) is awful with pain. He can stub his toe and you'd think he was

dying. On the other hand my daughter (10) ocd and bipolar is the opposite. She

once broke her finger and we never knew it until a week later. She also had

bacterial pneumunia, and the doctor said she wasn't acting sick enough to have

it. Her lung almost collapsed it was so bad,and she had to be hospitalized for 5

days. Maybe it's the bipolar that makes her that way.

Hugs

Judy.

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mine is like your ds. so dramatic.

sharon

Re: meds

My son (5)( ocd) is awful with pain. He can stub his toe and you'd think he

was dying. On the other hand my daughter (10) ocd and bipolar is the opposite.

She once broke her finger and we never knew it until a week later. She also had

bacterial pneumunia, and the doctor said she wasn't acting sick enough to have

it. Her lung almost collapsed it was so bad,and she had to be hospitalized for 5

days. Maybe it's the bipolar that makes her that way.

Hugs

Judy.

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I find the opposite here -she won't say a word about pain etc. -until

we're at a check-up etc and then tells stuff to doc so I look like

clueless out of touch mom -gotta love it!LOL!!!!

eileen

Quoting sher <ms4k@...>:

> Yes, Adele, it is a lower pain threshold!! You said exactly what I

> have been thinking! My other 3 kids hardly peep when they are getting

> sick, but my oldest can have a sore throat and act like it's only a

> matter of time before she leaves this earth. So it makes sense that

> milder headaches would register as devastating to her.

> I wonder, is this something that could be considered part of

> a " profile " of a child with OCD? In other words, is having a lower

> pain threshold typical of a kid with OCD? sher

>

>

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They were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley wrote: Put your shots in the

fridge. /De -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all

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Shirley!!! Motley wrote: Put your shots in the fridge. /De -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all Tim Parsons knoxville,tn 37931 x107 work www.knoxville1.com

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Ok, Gail. I will. I'll have to dig out my heating pad, or buy another one. Thank you for the heads up on that. We will probably be in Aberdeen when I take the first shot. So, I'll try to remember to take another blanket with me. Hugsgail wrote: I just kept my riboveron in the medicine chest.It is better if you take your shots close to bedtime so that you will sleep through the sides.With the

first shot only have a warm blanket,heating pad or hot water bottle ready cause you will get severe chills.I felt like someone put me inside the fridge.It only happens with the first shot.Stay with us so we can help you as much as possible. Gail -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Vickie GraySent: June 19, 2007 7:27 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: MedsThey were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool

place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley <dmotleybellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: Put your shots in the fridge. /De -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to.

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Ok, Gail. I will. I'll have to dig out my heating pad, or buy another one. Thank you for the heads up on that. We will probably be in Aberdeen when I take the first shot. So, I'll try to remember to take another blanket with me. Hugsgail wrote: I just kept my riboveron in the medicine chest.It is better if you take your shots close to bedtime so that you will sleep through the sides.With the

first shot only have a warm blanket,heating pad or hot water bottle ready cause you will get severe chills.I felt like someone put me inside the fridge.It only happens with the first shot.Stay with us so we can help you as much as possible. Gail -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Vickie GraySent: June 19, 2007 7:27 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: MedsThey were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool

place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley <dmotleybellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: Put your shots in the fridge. /De -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to.

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I just kept my riboveron in the medicine chest.It is better if you take your shots close to bedtime so that you will sleep through the sides.With the first shot only have a warm blanket,heating pad or hot water bottle ready cause you will get severe chills.I felt like someone put me inside the fridge.It only happens with the first shot.Stay with us so we can help you as much as possible.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Vickie GraySent: June 19, 2007 7:27 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: MedsThey were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley wrote:

Put your shots in the fridge.

/De

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds

My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all

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I just kept my riboveron in the medicine chest.It is better if you take your shots close to bedtime so that you will sleep through the sides.With the first shot only have a warm blanket,heating pad or hot water bottle ready cause you will get severe chills.I felt like someone put me inside the fridge.It only happens with the first shot.Stay with us so we can help you as much as possible.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Vickie GraySent: June 19, 2007 7:27 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: MedsThey were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley wrote:

Put your shots in the fridge.

/De

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds

My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all

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Just follow the instructions & go into tx with a positive attitude..You'll be fine and your journey will be over before ya know it....hugs, patty

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They were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley <dmotleybellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

Put your shots in the fridge.

/De

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds

My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all

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I will. I can't wait! Ha! HugsPat McBride wrote: Just follow the instructions & go into tx with a positive attitude..You'll be fine and your journey will be over before ya know it....hugs, patty RE: Meds They were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley <dmotleybellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

Put your shots in the fridge. /De -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 3506 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!

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I will. I can't wait! Ha! HugsPat McBride wrote: Just follow the instructions & go into tx with a positive attitude..You'll be fine and your journey will be over before ya know it....hugs, patty RE: Meds They were put into the fridge. as soon as they arrived. Also, Ribavirin instructions say keep out of light in cool place. They are there. We are ready and waiting. Annnnnnnnnnnd nervous as heck. Hugs Motley <dmotleybellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

Put your shots in the fridge. /De -----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of onelildeltagirlSent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:19 PMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Meds My meds arrived this am. Next Saturday before noon I will receive instructions on how to. Thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I'm good to go the following Tuesday night. Have already scheduled apt. for bloodwork and my next dr's apt. Hugs to all Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 3506 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!

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Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried Anakinra? I was speaking with the NIH today; they would like to

try it since the prednisone trial caused Madison's fevers to come closer

together.

Any input or information is appreciated.

Thanks!

Darlene, mom to Madison, 7 yrs old, TRAPS

Montreal, Canada

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Do you mean Kineret for sleeping? We haven't tried it yet, but I know a few of

the Mom's on here use it. Any thoughts on Kineret that you can give

her...ladies?

Darlene Stott <darlene@...> wrote:

meds

Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried Anakinra? I was speaking with the NIH today; they would like to

try it since the prednisone trial caused Madison's fevers to come closer

together.

Any input or information is appreciated.

Thanks!

Darlene, mom to Madison, 7 yrs old, TRAPS

Montreal, Canada

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Cat I tried to respond privately but the mail came back to me. I was going to

tell you that I am on Rituxan infusions now, and if this doesn't help I will be

changing to Orencia. I know we have at least three others on Rituxan but I'm

not sure about Orencia. Hopt this helps.

Stay Healthy

Branson, MO

Cat Triller wrote:

Hi everyone~

Welcome to the new members...as always glad you found us, but sorry you had to

look for us!

I'm going to ask about the meds you are on for AOSD

We have already focussed on the following, but may have missed some.

So, besides Kinneret, Methotrexate, Humira, Celebrex, Naprosen, Enbrel,

Arava.... have I missed any? Of course Prednisone!

Could you read the list over and get back to me privately at

Cattriller60@...

Thanking you in advance for your help!

Smiles and regards

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,I started on Methotrexate then Enbrel was added.I take a minimum of three

750 mg. of Vicodin a day for pain.I take many other meds.but those are the main

ones.Have Mike ask his RD about it.

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 my first time around with stills they trew drug after drug at me and in the end

some helpped and some did not and yet some did more damage then good. stills at

the start is always it seams like a try and see thing as no one drug seams to

work as like a antibyotic for a infection . it is all finding the right mix that

works for that person but this also means the person has to be willing to talk

to the doctor inhow there feeling both good and bad how it is helpping or not

helpping. now on my second round with stills or after my remision I am on larger

doses of MTX then before but this time no predasion at all lots of other drugs

for this or that including for my fibomialga pain and some break threw pain

killers finaly but it has not been an easy road and nor is it a set road as it

still seam to be changing. I do hope for you and Mike that he sooner then later

comes to the point of working threw the stages and comes to the place he can say

yes I have

stills it stinks but this is the way it is and I have to work with it and do

the best i can . I know at first I wanted to act like i did not have it then I

got realy mad for a time and then depresed big time . now days I do not look for

a cure nor do I look for any thing that will give me a remison all I do is live

each day the best I can some I do bettr then others . I will tell you my mother

worrys a bit about me and of lat she did a lot but thats a mom for ya

 good luck and my best wishes for you both

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G.

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 To learn about Stills Disease  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

For conservitive minded people  http://www.americac2c.org " If  we ever forget

that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone  under. " ~

Reagan

 

 In the old days a man who saved money was a miser; nowadays he's a wonder. 

~Author Unknown

 

 

A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive

treason from within.~Cicero

                                                   

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 my first time around with stills they trew drug after drug at me and in the end

some helpped and some did not and yet some did more damage then good. stills at

the start is always it seams like a try and see thing as no one drug seams to

work as like a antibyotic for a infection . it is all finding the right mix that

works for that person but this also means the person has to be willing to talk

to the doctor inhow there feeling both good and bad how it is helpping or not

helpping. now on my second round with stills or after my remision I am on larger

doses of MTX then before but this time no predasion at all lots of other drugs

for this or that including for my fibomialga pain and some break threw pain

killers finaly but it has not been an easy road and nor is it a set road as it

still seam to be changing. I do hope for you and Mike that he sooner then later

comes to the point of working threw the stages and comes to the place he can say

yes I have

stills it stinks but this is the way it is and I have to work with it and do

the best i can . I know at first I wanted to act like i did not have it then I

got realy mad for a time and then depresed big time . now days I do not look for

a cure nor do I look for any thing that will give me a remison all I do is live

each day the best I can some I do bettr then others . I will tell you my mother

worrys a bit about me and of lat she did a lot but thats a mom for ya

 good luck and my best wishes for you both

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G.

the redneck's my space http://www.myspace.com/martyg58

 To learn about Stills Disease  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

For conservitive minded people  http://www.americac2c.org " If  we ever forget

that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone  under. " ~

Reagan

 

 In the old days a man who saved money was a miser; nowadays he's a wonder. 

~Author Unknown

 

 

A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive

treason from within.~Cicero

                                                   

" The  most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the

government  and I'm here to help. "    ~  Reagan 

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Hello Marty

Thank you for your kind words and your insightful wisdom. Yes, I know as a mom

I need to just wait and let my son come to grips with things in his own way and

in his own time. Meanwhile, I'll just keep gathering information from wonderful

people such as yourself. Keep up the good work!

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my first time around with stills they trew drug after drug at me and in the

end some helpped and some did not and yet some did more damage then good. stills

at the start is always it seams like a try and see thing as no one drug seams to

work as like a antibyotic for a infection . it is all finding the right mix that

works for that person but this also means the person has to be willing to talk

to the doctor inhow there feeling both good and bad how it is helpping or not

helpping. now on my second round with stills or after my remision I am on larger

doses of MTX then before but this time no predasion at all lots of other drugs

for this or that including for my fibomialga pain and some break threw pain

killers finaly but it has not been an easy road and nor is it a set road as it

still seam to be changing. I do hope for you and Mike that he sooner then later

comes to the point of working threw the stages and comes to the place he can say

yes I have

stills it stinks but this is the way it is and I have to work with it and do

the best i can . I know at first I wanted to act like i did not have it then I

got realy mad for a time and then depresed big time . now days I do not look for

a cure nor do I look for any thing that will give me a remison all I do is live

each day the best I can some I do bettr then others . I will tell you my mother

worrys a bit about me and of lat she did a lot but thats a mom for ya

good luck and my best wishes for you both

the rednecks

Marty & G.

the redneck's my space http://www.myspace.com/martyg58

To learn about Stills Disease http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

For conservitive minded people http://www.americac2c.org " If we ever forget

that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under. " ~

Reagan

In the old days a man who saved money was a miser; nowadays he's a wonder.

~Author Unknown

A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive

treason from within.~Cicero

" The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the

government and I'm here to help. " ~ Reagan

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Hello Marty

Thank you for your kind words and your insightful wisdom. Yes, I know as a mom

I need to just wait and let my son come to grips with things in his own way and

in his own time. Meanwhile, I'll just keep gathering information from wonderful

people such as yourself. Keep up the good work!

Re: Meds

my first time around with stills they trew drug after drug at me and in the

end some helpped and some did not and yet some did more damage then good. stills

at the start is always it seams like a try and see thing as no one drug seams to

work as like a antibyotic for a infection . it is all finding the right mix that

works for that person but this also means the person has to be willing to talk

to the doctor inhow there feeling both good and bad how it is helpping or not

helpping. now on my second round with stills or after my remision I am on larger

doses of MTX then before but this time no predasion at all lots of other drugs

for this or that including for my fibomialga pain and some break threw pain

killers finaly but it has not been an easy road and nor is it a set road as it

still seam to be changing. I do hope for you and Mike that he sooner then later

comes to the point of working threw the stages and comes to the place he can say

yes I have

stills it stinks but this is the way it is and I have to work with it and do

the best i can . I know at first I wanted to act like i did not have it then I

got realy mad for a time and then depresed big time . now days I do not look for

a cure nor do I look for any thing that will give me a remison all I do is live

each day the best I can some I do bettr then others . I will tell you my mother

worrys a bit about me and of lat she did a lot but thats a mom for ya

good luck and my best wishes for you both

the rednecks

Marty & G.

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To learn about Stills Disease http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

For conservitive minded people http://www.americac2c.org " If we ever forget

that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under. " ~

Reagan

In the old days a man who saved money was a miser; nowadays he's a wonder.

~Author Unknown

A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive

treason from within.~Cicero

" The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the

government and I'm here to help. " ~ Reagan

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Marty,

Hi, glad for you. It's been a long time. I told you I have also F.M let me

know if your interested in their web adress. They also have a very good

magazine. I felt that I no longer knew WISH was F.M PAIN or this other cond. I

used

to be able to control it wit. 2,3 dosis of Hydroc. but not any more, for the

last yr. it symply just don't touch the pain & now is every where PLUS

joints!!. So how do you know if it's Still pain or F.M??

I left muy old Rheumy because he kept blowing me off totally when I kept

telling him that thing were tooo bad, they had changed drastically,. I did'nt

know myself that the eppisodes I had began were part of a Rheumatologist area.

But HE should 've!! . I asked the new one if she would take over the F.M

meds. before I left the other, I didn't need to keep 2 RDS. she told me yes, Now

that the time came she assked what I took & told me that she did not

prescribed pain meds. ( I disclosed all that on muy new patient info) & we went

over

again as we spoked. Now she told me that she likes to reffered her patients

on bad pain to pain specialists. I'm almost out of med. ( & have appmt. there

for 1 week of Dec. & they told me he does NOT prescribed med. on the 1ST

appmt.In a way I'm thinking that this may be for the best since What I was

taking was not taking acare of it . Did like 30 % of the time, like on muy good

days would cover more of it out, but maybe this will allow me to be more

funtional, wish now I'm not 80 % of the time, but it is not just due to pain as

you

all know very well.

Thanks for your time

VIVI

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Vivi

 The best way I tell if my pain is stills or Fibo is this

 Joint swelling and pain stills deep mussel and all pressure points when touched

being painful fibo. The one that showed me this and is also the one that always

seam to find every spot that hurts in my RA doctor. She also was an

acupuncturist (or studied it at lest) believes in some herbal help along with

what we call your every day drugs. She is at lest for me great. she never just

hands out any drug but works to make sure it is not a single time but on going

first then starts out slow and works up (some time I have wanted to yell at her

for that but in the end I have been glad) doing it this way most of the time

things can and are keep in check and livable notice I did not say gone. I live

with what seam like some pain all the time but as long as it is kept under a

limit I can function okay and not crew every ones head off but when it breaks

that limit best thing to do is lock me up and stay away from the mad dog I

become as I do get snappy and very

crabby at times. I try to hold it back but there are them days. I just do not

want to become the zombie I had 6 years ago so it is my chouse to live with some

pain not every one can do that but I use tricks to help me like bath soaks and

Lamaze breathing (no baby have come from that to bad as then I would be rich

LOL) just I have found some thing that work for me. I also try not to over push

my self but in that I do lose a lot and then I do pay for it I just try not to

make any one other also pay for it

Hugs all

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G.

the redneck's my space http://www.myspace.com/martyg58

 To learn about Stills Disease  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

For conservitive minded people  http://www.americac2c.org " If  we ever forget

that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone  under. " ~

Reagan

 

 In the old days a man who saved money was a miser; nowadays he's a wonder. 

~Author Unknown

 

 

A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive

treason from within.~Cicero

                                                   

" The  most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the

government  and I'm here to help. "    ~  Reagan 

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