@miteymaid: your word should have been enough

March 23, 2012

No, miteymaid, he didn't dismiss you because of no proof. He dismissed because of Hinkle's table of symptoms from her infamous, poorly supported, and fact-challenged article Delusory Parasitosis, which is listed as an authoritative (albeit dead wrong) resource in the trade encyclopedias (hard copy and computer databased) for three fields that significantly impact the lives of people who have parasites under

the skin and in their privates: entomologists/microbiologists, pest control operators, and medical doctors (which includes dermatologists).Your word should have been enough. Unfortunately, after your doc checked his computer and found the following table, he came back to the

examination room or to his office or wherever he dismissed you convinced that he was delivering a correct diagnosis, that is, a nondiagnosis, because he came back convinced that you needed a shrink, not a medical doctor. His facial expression and demeanor were completely different when he came back, weren't they?SUCCESS STORIESNo, hon, we are pretty much on our own. Unfortunately so many people have now suffered with this that, fortunately, we do now have some success stories, many due to faithful and determined adherence to not one but several different protocols. The key is to let go of waiting for the meds and families and friends to help or support and just get busy finding the successful protocols,

which the group veterans freely provide week

in and week out to newbies (thank God), pick whatever makes sense to you and that you can afford and tolerate. NEW ERUPTIONS/LESIONSMeanwhile, a quick fix for newly erupted lesions, something you can carry with you at all times, is one of those white sticks (about 99 cents) that men use to stop bleeding when they cut themselves shaving. Styptic pencils not only stop the bleeding, they are also useful in killing the critters that come into contact with it. Stick one in your purse with your lipstick, one by the bed, kitchen sink, computer, work. Buy one and break it into several pieces. They go a long way. SECONDARY INFECTION

PREVENTIONCritical: get yourself something that stops itching. Secondary infections from scratching present one of the big dangers for us since the itching can be so uncontrollable. Quick fixes are hand sanitizer, aveeno anti-itch or stress relief, and some lotions (I like Pink Oil, a hair lotion for very dry hair). Whatever you use, you will have to rub it into the skin until the itching stops. OPEN WOUND TREATMENT

For

healing open wounds, I use Aveeno mixed with pure aloe vera gel and antibiotic ointment or lotion. Pink Oil seems to help me also, but it has fragrance in it so many can't use it.

PREVENTION AND ISOLATIONIf you are where you can wear disposable gloves, always wear fresh disposable gloves when you handle infected parts of your body. For example, my feet are herxing badly and continually due to the F-8 and the Enzpire capsules from Gordon. The capsules are running them out (not fast enough for me, but if I take too much I get nauseous, so I'm having to pace myself) of my feet in particular. I think what I have in my feet is actually springtails or fungus beetles. Not sure which, don't care, just want them OUT. However, if I have to remove a biter from the outside of my socks (I wear boots for this reason) or if I have to remove my socks and apply something for the itching, if I do not wear gloves, I quickly develop a fresh infestation on the fingers I use. So I try to wear

disposable gloves, and I go through a ton of them. I like vinyl, which go on easier than latex (I get the lightly powdered Noble brand from webstaurantstore.com, the cheapest disposable gloves I have found and fast shipping) and do not disintegrate as quickly. FACE / EYE ITCHIf my face or eyes itch, and I cannot get to my gloves or am in public where I cannot put them on anyway, I use a rough paper towel (do not reuse same spot), even in the corner of my eye. I would rather wash the itchy area and would rather wear gloves, but this is what I do in a pinch. I do not touch my face or eyes with the same part of the paper towel that my hands have touched. Isolation is critical to prevent the spread of the infection on our own

bodies.kajay From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> bird mites Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: So the fibers survive coconut oil?

I used many herbs. The most helpful were these 2 cocktails. I also too derma nerve, and kidney rejuvenator. All of these cocktails were designed for animal care, however the viparabac is for humans. I have used it with great results on my dog after coyote attack to.

http://wolfcreekranch.net/viparabac_plus.html

http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/adizone.html

> > > >

> > > > Hi Jess,

> > > >

> > > > It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

> > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

> > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

> > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

> > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on this

> > > > site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to mites

> > > > did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with

> > > > tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they

> > > > are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites end

> > > > up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-product of a mite

> > > > or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are alive. I'm a

> > > > member of the group that believes they are living, although don't have

> > > > any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators, although very

> > > > controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they maybe

> > > > are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this

> > > > as there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this... Dr.

> > > > Hildegard Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was

> > > > collecting fibers and looking at them under the digital scope I found

> > > > some interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover them

> > > > in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over the top and look at the

> > > > fibers over a period of months. I stored them in a special box

> > > > designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed over time from

> > > > month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what looked

> > > > like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

> > > >

> > > > I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one that

> > > > hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

> > > >

> > > > I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

> > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the fibers

> > > > are self creating... in the human body they have what they need to

> > > > reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes. Some

> > > > may be programmed to carry diseases.

> > > >

> > > > I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my

> > > > hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped using

> > > > it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > *From: *"jessnyc" <helpnynow@>

> > > > **"Birdmites.org Website" <bird mites >

> > > > *Sent: *Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

> > > > *Subject: * So the fibers survive coconut oil?

> > > >

> > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I bought

> > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

> > > >

> > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

> > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or more

> > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually I

> > > > began seeing more and more of them.

> > > >

> > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

> > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full of

> > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black, some

> > > > are also white and hard to see.

> > > >

> > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

> > > > reproduce in it.

> > > >

> > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

> > > > found anything that would really kill them.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

> > > >

> > > > Jess.

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

March 25, 2012

Yes, they treat me like I'm from Mars. Sometimes I think this is the story of my

life, nothing that affects me is real, I'm just making it up because I'm crazy.

Now my building won't even let me hire my own exterminator because the

entomologist from their exterminating company said, as you say, nothing I've

observed is real, I'm just delusional. He says he's a scientist so what he's

read is the bottom line. I do think these things are under my skin also which is

how I'll approach my current doctor when I return. I have trouble with my

stomach taking the meds also which doesn't help. It's so infuriating to bang

your head against the wall in addition to trying to treat the condition.Now I'm

also wondering if it would pay to get a regular microscope with a large viewing

screen to start putting lint roller tapes through. Those hand held ones might be

good though maybe not strong enough, but would then also have to buy a laptop.

Threw out everything when I moved here.Never seen anything on me with naked eye

but twice saw a mass of black dots for a few seconds and also twice noticed my

floor Moving with a mass of something after I sprayed. Also felt them really bad

in the papers I brought over and had in my freezer.

E

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Jess,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

> > > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

> > > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

> > > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of

> > > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on this

> > > > > site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to mites

> > > > > did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with

> > > > > tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they

> > > > > are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites end

> > > > > up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-product of a mite

> > > > > or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are alive. I'm a

> > > > > member of the group that believes they are living, although don't have

> > > > > any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators, although very

> > > > > controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they maybe

> > > > > are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this

> > > > > as there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this... Dr.

> > > > > Hildegard Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was

> > > > > collecting fibers and looking at them under the digital scope I found

> > > > > some interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover them

> > > > > in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over the top and look at the

> > > > > fibers over a period of months. I stored them in a special box

> > > > > designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed over time from

> > > > > month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what looked

> > > > > like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

> > > > >

> > > > > I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one that

> > > > > hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

> > > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the fibers

> > > > > are self creating... in the human body they have what they need to

> > > > > reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes. Some

> > > > > may be programmed to carry diseases.

> > > > >

> > > > > I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my

> > > > > hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped using

> > > > > it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > > *From: * " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

> > > > > ** " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

> > > > > *Sent: *Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

> > > > > *Subject: * So the fibers survive coconut oil?

> > > > >

> > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I bought

> > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

> > > > >

> > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

> > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or more

> > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually I

> > > > > began seeing more and more of them.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

> > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full of

> > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black, some

> > > > > are also white and hard to see.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

> > > > > reproduce in it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

> > > > > found anything that would really kill them.

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

> > > > >

> > > > > Jess.

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

March 25, 2012

I have quit trying to control what others think. They can't help me anyway, the only thing that could happen by people accepting the truth is that those of us with jobs would be told to go home and not come back till we are well. I am not personally prepared to "out" myself--I couldn't afford my treatments. And no one wants to hear that in the many years I have battled this, because I have made it a priority to do everything I could to avoid transmitting it to others, I have not transmitted it to any of my coworkers or friends. Oh, I tried to tell everyone at first and was just as frustrated and angry as you. Then I realized I was wasting my energy and even more, my time, as well as placing myself in jeopardy. Even if they accept it, they will not hear what I want to hear. Here is how it would go in their

minds.This is them thinking: "omg, it's real" "I gotta get out of here" "Don't come near me"Then from a safe distance, they would ask us the usual questions we get from those who might believe but still need some convincing, and who think they can tell us in a few sentences how to get over what we have already fought for months to years - in vain - to get over. That is, our friends and family insist that we see the doctor, that the doctor will help us, and that if he/she says we don't have anything, we must not, because he/she is the doctor, and there they are, back to not believing, back in their comfort

zone.I just got tired of it and dug into the battle. It was demanding all my energy anyway.Kajay From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: Re: @miteymaid: your word should have been enough

Yes, they treat me like I'm from Mars. Sometimes I think this is the story of my life, nothing that affects me is real, I'm just making it up because I'm crazy. Now my building won't even let me hire my own exterminator because the entomologist from their exterminating company said, as you say, nothing I've observed is real, I'm just delusional. He says he's a scientist so what he's read is the bottom line. I do think these things are under my skin also which is how I'll approach my current doctor when I return. I have trouble with my stomach taking the meds also which doesn't help. It's so infuriating to bang your head against the wall in addition to trying to treat the condition.Now I'm also wondering if it would pay to get a regular microscope with a large viewing screen to start putting lint roller tapes through. Those hand held ones might be good though maybe not strong enough, but would then also have to buy a laptop. Threw out everything when I

moved here.Never seen anything on me with naked eye but twice saw a mass of black dots for a few seconds and also twice noticed my floor Moving with a mass of something after I sprayed. Also felt them really bad in the papers I brought over and had in my freezer.