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No worries!:-)

Im not that mad..yet!!

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 07:16 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>Hi ,

>Please do not cut your bloody feet off, lol :-)

>Instead, try putting a strong fan in front of them. If you are dealing with

mites, it will piss them off,-)

> 

>

>Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 9:25 Dienstag, 27.März 2012

>Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

>

>

> 

>

>Oh lord

>Amother summer ofthis

>Cannot bear it :-(

>Cant believe,after all the,foot scrubbing that they still there

>Must be something to kill life cycle topicaly

>Used anti fungal,peroxide,borax,epsom,bicarb soaks

>..wil I have to cut my bloody feet off!!!

>Streuth!!!!

>Dont have bath but used soaks

>When is the end point

>The inner strength gets bloody weary!!!

>

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>On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 05:06 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>

>>Absolutely, a lot worse in spring and summer as it is the most active mite

time, although 'my' mites didn't give much about

>>beauty sleep in winter either... I had got myself a dehumidifier for about 240

Euros and it did help to some extend.

>> 

>>

>>Von: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>

>>An: bird mites

>>Gesendet: 21:23 Sonntag, 25.März 2012

>>Betreff: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

>>

>>

>> 

>>I find it worse when it's warmer and more humid. They seem to be more active.

>>E

>>

>>

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Hi Jess,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

>> > > > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

>> > > > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

>> > > > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know

of

>> > > > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

this

>> > > > > > site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

mites

>> > > > > > did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with

>> > > > > > tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they

>> > > > > > are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites

end

>> > > > > > up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-product of a

mite

>> > > > > > or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are alive. I'm a

>> > > > > > member of the group that believes they are living, although don't

have

>> > > > > > any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators, although very

>> > > > > > controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they

maybe

>> > > > > > are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this

>> > > > > > as there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this...

Dr.

>> > > > > > Hildegard Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was

>> > > > > > collecting fibers and looking at them under the digital scope I

found

>> > > > > > some interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover

them

>> > > > > > in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over the top and look at the

>> > > > > > fibers over a period of months. I stored them in a special box

>> > > > > > designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed over time from

>> > > > > > month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what looked

>> > > > > > like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

that

>> > > > > > hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

>> > > > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

fibers

>> > > > > > are self creating... in the human body they have what they need to

>> > > > > > reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes. Some

>> > > > > > may be programmed to carry diseases.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my

>> > > > > > hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

using

>> > > > > > it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

>> > > > > > *From: * " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

>> > > > > > ** " Birdmites.org Website " <bird mites >

>> > > > > > *Sent: *Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

>> > > > > > *Subject: * So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

bought

>> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

>> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

more

>> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually

I

>> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

>> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

of

>> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

some

>> > > > > > are also white and hard to see.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

>> > > > > > reproduce in it.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

>> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jess.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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Oh what a bummer aggi

I got factor 30 today but already got burnt

Need get hat I can wash!!

Phew one day life will be ok

Sore tum tonite with my other health problem too

Hope dog ok as just frontlined

Though not sure it kills the eggs!:-(

But maybe she just scratchin cos heat

Why is life so painfil for us all

Surrender flag up!!!

X

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 07:25 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>Skin getting burnt is a result of the abx intake. If you read the leaflet, it

will tell you that your skin is going to burn by the slightest exposure to the

sun, even if you don't see the sun. Be very careful C, and protect your skin

>accordingly ! I have got the very same problem as the weather is absolutely

stunning right now.  

> 

>

>Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 9:14 Dienstag, 27.März 2012

>Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

>

>

> 

>

>Thanks linda,aggi,marie n Aandraya

>I wont mention doxy to dermatology!

>Guess that means shudnt give samples of black white things gathered on

cellotape!!

>I know I have to be careful becoz this is a unknown world for them,lucky sods

>We have pm n am

>Pre mites n aftermites!!

>Am goin order another 3 month doxy

>Be six month altogether then

>Tum toleratin beter tho still feel sick

>Skin getin burnt on face

>Need a hat I can wash!!!

>With dog my friend got very angry at me

>As im usualy very considerate of others

>I got told of for bein rash n.getin dog outa lonelines

>When may be puttin dog jeopardy cos mites

>Which in the last week I believe is,what isstil there

>I feel guilt n fear every day now

>Much ad very fond dog

>Anxous every time she scratch

>But have no proof shegot anything

>So waiting for frontline to arive

>Will get a amto mite wash also

>Marie I havent ordered de as used on cat n me all the time

>And cat stil v bothered

>And guardin myself from coverin her in things if not totaly necesary

>Been washin her towels with my towels bedding tights n socks

>Now will wash her towels n beddin seperarely as im anxious partic my socks

infected

>My lord

>Who wud o thought a human worried of infesting a dog

>Id be so hapy bonsing with her if didnt have this

>Instead we bond but have all this to deal with

>Every scratch freaks me out

>If she needs,nustock or other things shall get

>Im now,putting clove oil n neem oil on feet every day

>Slightly less black things

>Convinced mites as when getin off feet had on hands n imediately got bites

>My friend said cudnt have mites now

>I said they cud be under skin reproducing

>I think I stupidly freaked her out

>What a awful affliction to get rid of belongings n home n still have

them.hatching by the look o it

>An the weather warmer

>Try protect the dog

>Feel bad that ive put her in this,situation

>And myself

>But mites,just on feet n under hand nail bite ocasionaly elsewhereocasionaly

>But not spreading

>Take msm

>Doesnt help

>Sulphur soap does,though

>Realy depresed

>Its mentaly like a jail sentence

>Like punishment

>Denied what others have

>Simple need to be clean n untortured physicaly n mentaly

>Did u have ur conference on phone yet ?

>Must be nice to chat n hear everyones voice n character!:-)

>Hugs

>

>------------------------------

>On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 09:53 PDT healinghope wrote:

>

>>C I am sorry for your hardship and pain. Just the stress of this beast alone

will tax our immune system.

>>

>> g with DE animal and bedding, be sure and avoid eyes, cover because of

dust. For ears I had used cedarcide. Now I use nu stock.

>>

>> I have also used nustock on everything from sores, rashes, hoof rot. Also

have used on myself for rashes, ect. My neighbor said she cured boils and skin

cancer with nu stock.

>>

>>Also if you could take flower of sulfur daily would help.

>>http://www.herbalhealer.com/nustock.html

>>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16432

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Hi Jess,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

>> > > > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

>> > > > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

>> > > > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know

of

>> > > > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

this

>> > > > > > site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

mites

>> > > > > > did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with

>> > > > > > tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they

>> > > > > > are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites

end

>> > > > > > up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-product of a

mite

>> > > > > > or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are alive. I'm a

>> > > > > > member of the group that believes they are living, although don't

have

>> > > > > > any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators, although very

>> > > > > > controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they

maybe

>> > > > > > are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this

>> > > > > > as there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this...

Dr.

>> > > > > > Hildegard Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was

>> > > > > > collecting fibers and looking at them under the digital scope I

found

>> > > > > > some interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover

them

>> > > > > > in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over the top and look at the

>> > > > > > fibers over a period of months. I stored them in a special box

>> > > > > > designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed over time from

>> > > > > > month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what looked

>> > > > > > like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

that

>> > > > > > hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

>> > > > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

fibers

>> > > > > > are self creating... in the human body they have what they need to

>> > > > > > reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes. Some

>> > > > > > may be programmed to carry diseases.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my

>> > > > > > hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

using

>> > > > > > it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

>> > > > > > *From: * " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

>> > > > > > ** " Birdmites.org Website " < bird mites

>

>> > > > > > *Sent: *Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

>> > > > > > *Subject: * So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

bought

>> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

>> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

more

>> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually

I

>> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

>> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

of

>> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

some

>> > > > > > are also white and hard to see.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

>> > > > > > reproduce in it.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

>> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jess.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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Oh what a bummer aggi

I got factor 30 today but already got burnt

Need get hat I can wash!!

Phew one day life will be ok

Sore tum tonite with my other health problem too

Hope dog ok as just frontlined

Though not sure it kills the eggs!:-(

But maybe she just scratchin cos heat

Why is life so painfil for us all

Surrender flag up!!!

X

------------------------------

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 07:25 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>Skin getting burnt is a result of the abx intake. If you read the leaflet, it

will tell you that your skin is going to burn by the slightest exposure to the

sun, even if you don't see the sun. Be very careful C, and protect your skin

>accordingly ! I have got the very same problem as the weather is absolutely

stunning right now.  

> 

>

>Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 9:14 Dienstag, 27.März 2012

>Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

>

>

> 

>

>Thanks linda,aggi,marie n Aandraya

>I wont mention doxy to dermatology!

>Guess that means shudnt give samples of black white things gathered on

cellotape!!

>I know I have to be careful becoz this is a unknown world for them,lucky sods

>We have pm n am

>Pre mites n aftermites!!

>Am goin order another 3 month doxy

>Be six month altogether then

>Tum toleratin beter tho still feel sick

>Skin getin burnt on face

>Need a hat I can wash!!!

>With dog my friend got very angry at me

>As im usualy very considerate of others

>I got told of for bein rash n.getin dog outa lonelines

>When may be puttin dog jeopardy cos mites

>Which in the last week I believe is,what isstil there

>I feel guilt n fear every day now

>Much ad very fond dog

>Anxous every time she scratch

>But have no proof shegot anything

>So waiting for frontline to arive

>Will get a amto mite wash also

>Marie I havent ordered de as used on cat n me all the time

>And cat stil v bothered

>And guardin myself from coverin her in things if not totaly necesary

>Been washin her towels with my towels bedding tights n socks

>Now will wash her towels n beddin seperarely as im anxious partic my socks

infected

>My lord

>Who wud o thought a human worried of infesting a dog

>Id be so hapy bonsing with her if didnt have this

>Instead we bond but have all this to deal with

>Every scratch freaks me out

>If she needs,nustock or other things shall get

>Im now,putting clove oil n neem oil on feet every day

>Slightly less black things

>Convinced mites as when getin off feet had on hands n imediately got bites

>My friend said cudnt have mites now

>I said they cud be under skin reproducing

>I think I stupidly freaked her out

>What a awful affliction to get rid of belongings n home n still have

them.hatching by the look o it

>An the weather warmer

>Try protect the dog

>Feel bad that ive put her in this,situation

>And myself

>But mites,just on feet n under hand nail bite ocasionaly elsewhereocasionaly

>But not spreading

>Take msm

>Doesnt help

>Sulphur soap does,though

>Realy depresed

>Its mentaly like a jail sentence

>Like punishment

>Denied what others have

>Simple need to be clean n untortured physicaly n mentaly

>Did u have ur conference on phone yet ?

>Must be nice to chat n hear everyones voice n character!:-)

>Hugs

>

>------------------------------

>On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 09:53 PDT healinghope wrote:

>

>>C I am sorry for your hardship and pain. Just the stress of this beast alone

will tax our immune system.

>>

>> g with DE animal and bedding, be sure and avoid eyes, cover because of

dust. For ears I had used cedarcide. Now I use nu stock.

>>

>> I have also used nustock on everything from sores, rashes, hoof rot. Also

have used on myself for rashes, ect. My neighbor said she cured boils and skin

cancer with nu stock.

>>

>>Also if you could take flower of sulfur daily would help.

>>http://www.herbalhealer.com/nustock.html

>>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16432

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Hi Jess,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.

>> > > > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I

>> > > > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I

>> > > > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know

of

>> > > > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on

this

>> > > > > > site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to

mites

>> > > > > > did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with

>> > > > > > tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they

>> > > > > > are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites

end

>> > > > > > up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-product of a

mite

>> > > > > > or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are alive. I'm a

>> > > > > > member of the group that believes they are living, although don't

have

>> > > > > > any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators, although very

>> > > > > > controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they

maybe

>> > > > > > are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this

>> > > > > > as there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this...

Dr.

>> > > > > > Hildegard Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was

>> > > > > > collecting fibers and looking at them under the digital scope I

found

>> > > > > > some interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover

them

>> > > > > > in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over the top and look at the

>> > > > > > fibers over a period of months. I stored them in a special box

>> > > > > > designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed over time from

>> > > > > > month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what looked

>> > > > > > like a pin head. I never saw any of them move.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one

that

>> > > > > > hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.

>> > > > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the

fibers

>> > > > > > are self creating... in the human body they have what they need to

>> > > > > > reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes. Some

>> > > > > > may be programmed to carry diseases.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my

>> > > > > > hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped

using

>> > > > > > it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

>> > > > > > *From: * " jessnyc " <helpnynow@>

>> > > > > > ** " Birdmites.org Website " < bird mites

>

>> > > > > > *Sent: *Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM

>> > > > > > *Subject: * So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

bought

>> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

>> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

more

>> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually

I

>> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

>> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

of

>> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

some

>> > > > > > are also white and hard to see.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

>> > > > > > reproduce in it.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

>> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jess.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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Dear Aggi,Thanks for asking Aggi. She is doing much better from what I hear. I was so freaked out, but now I'm a little embarrassed about it because lots of people get pneumonia, but I didn't know anything about pneumonia. They are out in the beautiful weather you've been having lately. You have the neatest parks there and I think they spent time at one of the local parks on Saturday. Hugs, how are you doing? From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:28:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Dear , I was just wondering how your daughter and granddaughter are doing meanwhile. Hope they are both better healthwise!

Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 17:19 Dienstag, 27.März 2012Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Hi Aggi and C

Yes, I've been warned about the sun effect with Doxy and I'm super careful... my skin gets irritated and burned easily with it. Also, my doctor told me to even cover up walking to the car! Imagine that. Just less than a minute to my car.

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:25:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Skin getting burnt is a result of the abx intake. If you read the leaflet, it will tell you that your skin is going to burn by the slightest exposure to the sun, even if you don't see the sun. Be very careful C, and protect your skin

accordingly ! I have got the very same problem as the weather is absolutely stunning right now.

Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 9:14 Dienstag, 27.März 2012Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Thanks linda,aggi,marie n AandrayaI wont mention doxy to dermatology!Guess that means shudnt give samples of black white things gathered on cellotape!!I know I have to be careful becoz this is a unknown world for them,lucky sodsWe have pm n amPre mites n aftermites!!Am goin order another 3 month doxyBe six month altogether thenTum toleratin beter tho still feel sickSkin getin burnt on faceNeed a hat I can wash!!!With dog my friend got very angry at meAs im usualy very considerate of othersI got told of for bein rash n.getin dog outa lonelinesWhen may be puttin dog jeopardy cos mitesWhich in the last week I believe is,what isstil thereI feel guilt n fear every day nowMuch ad very fond dogAnxous every time she scratchBut have no proof shegot anythingSo waiting for frontline to ariveWill get a amto mite wash alsoMarie I havent ordered de as used on cat n me all

the timeAnd cat stil v botheredAnd guardin myself from coverin her in things if not totaly necesaryBeen washin her towels with my towels bedding tights n socksNow will wash her towels n beddin seperarely as im anxious partic my socks infectedMy lordWho wud o thought a human worried of infesting a dogId be so hapy bonsing with her if didnt have thisInstead we bond but have all this to deal withEvery scratch freaks me outIf she needs,nustock or other things shall getIm now,putting clove oil n neem oil on feet every daySlightly less black thingsConvinced mites as when getin off feet had on hands n imediately got bitesMy friend said cudnt have mites nowI said they cud be under skin reproducingI think I stupidly freaked her outWhat a awful affliction to get rid of belongings n home n still have them.hatching by the look o itAn the weather warmerTry protect the dogFeel bad that

ive put her in this,situationAnd myselfBut mites,just on feet n under hand nail bite ocasionaly elsewhereocasionalyBut not spreadingTake msmDoesnt helpSulphur soap does,thoughRealy depresedIts mentaly like a jail sentence Like punishmentDenied what others haveSimple need to be clean n untortured physicaly n mentalyDid u have ur conference on phone yet ?Must be nice to chat n hear everyones voice n character!:-)Hugs ------------------------------On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 09:53 PDT healinghope wrote:>C I am sorry for your hardship and pain. Just the stress of this beast alone will tax our immune system.>> g with DE animal and bedding, be sure and avoid eyes, cover because of dust. For ears I had used cedarcide. Now I use nu stock.>> I have also used nustock on everything from sores, rashes, hoof rot. Also have used on myself for rashes, ect. My

neighbor said she cured boils and skin cancer with nu stock. >>Also if you could take flower of sulfur daily would help. >http://www.herbalhealer.com/nustock.html>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16432>>>>--- In bird mites , Goldstein@... wrote:>>>> I'm grateful for this group too C. I don't know what I would have done without it. Also so grateful to Tim for his input and for the birdmites.com info. Life saving for me. For me, after the bird mites came and gradually went, it was time to address the infection,

pre-bird mites and those delivered by bird mites. >> >> >> C, after your dog's fur has dried after shower could you powder her with diatomaceous earth? Almost like a flea powder? That seems like it would keep things down on her as a preventive. Ask Marie if putting it in the ears is advisable. Somehow I don't think so. Marie has different remedies for the ears of her dogs. >> >> >> >> >> >> * So the fibers survive coconut oil? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I bought >> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow >> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or more >> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually I >> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them. >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves >> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full of >> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black, some >> > > > > > are also white and hard to see. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and >> > > > > > reproduce in it. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't >> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>> > > > > > >> > > > > > Jess. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ >> > > > > > >> > > > > >

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I like the fan idea better too. It does get so irritating when we think we are doing everything we can to get them out of certain areas of the body! I wonder if what that is causing the biting sensations on the feet is actually Bartonella... I've read recently that Bartonella is becoming a world wide epidemic. There are more vectors of Bartonella than any other disease. So that means lice, scabies, mites of all types, spiders, ticks, biting flies can and do carry it and many more vectors. It is just as hard to get rid of as Lyme disease.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:46:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dotsNo worries!:-)Im not that mad..yet!!:-)------------------------------On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 07:16 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:>Hi ,>Please do not cut your bloody feet off, lol :-)>Instead, try putting a strong fan in front of them. If you are dealing with mites, it will piss them off,-)> >>Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>>An: bird mites >Gesendet: 9:25 Dienstag, 27.März 2012>Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots>>> >>Oh lord>Amother summer ofthis>Cannot bear it :-(>Cant believe,after all the,foot scrubbing that they still there>Must be something to kill life cycle topicaly>Used anti fungal,peroxide,borax,epsom,bicarb soaks>..wil I have to cut my bloody feet off!!!>Streuth!!!!>Dont have bath but used soaks>When is the end point>The inner strength gets bloody weary!!!>>------------------------------>On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 05:06 PDT Aggi Assmann wrote:>>>Absolutely, a lot worse in spring and summer as it is the most active mite time, although 'my' mites didn't give much about >>beauty sleep in winter either... I had got myself a dehumidifier for about 240 Euros and it did help to some extend.>> >>>>Von: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>>>An: bird mites >>Gesendet: 21:23 Sonntag, 25.März 2012>>Betreff: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots>>>>>> >>I find it worse when it's warmer and more humid. They seem to be more active.>>E>>>>>> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Jess,>> > > > > >>> > > > > > It is really good to hear from you. I've thought about you often.>> > > > > > I'm in the same boat with the similar questions about fibers. I>> > > > > > wonder if there is any way to get rid of the fibers permanently. I>> > > > > > feel them floating and landing on my hands at times. I don't know of>> > > > > > anyone who has had fibers that actually got rid of them. Many on this>> > > > > > site did not have fibers, but had mites only. Their exposure to mites>> > > > > > did not bring fibers. Mites for sure can be killed, although with>> > > > > > tremendous difficulty. I don't know what makes the fibers, but they>> > > > > > are part of what defines Morgellons. So many people who had mites end>> > > > > > up with the fibers. Some people think they are a by-product of a mite>> > > > > > or parasite, or bacteria and some ppl believe they are alive. I'm a>> > > > > > member of the group that believes they are living, although don't have>> > > > > > any idea how that could be. Maybe investigators, although very>> > > > > > controversial, believe they are nano products, and I think they maybe>> > > > > > are. That's just an opinion... I'm not the one to come up with this>> > > > > > as there are plenty of knowledgable people who have said this... Dr.>> > > > > > Hildegard Staninger for one. When I had a microscope and was>> > > > > > collecting fibers and looking at them under the digital scope I found>> > > > > > some interesting things. I would put the fibers on slides, cover them>> > > > > > in emersion oil and a thin glass sheet over the top and look at the>> > > > > > fibers over a period of months. I stored them in a special box>> > > > > > designed for slides. The fibers themselves changed over time from>> > > > > > month to month (some did, some did not). Some developed what looked>> > > > > > like a pin head. I never saw any of them move. >> > > > > >>> > > > > > I really wish I had a microscope again, but I haven't found one that>> > > > > > hooks up with software for an iMac which I have now. >> > > > > >>> > > > > > I think there are things that disrupt the energy of the fibers.>> > > > > > Scientists may have found a way to create life and I think the fibers>> > > > > > are self creating... in the human body they have what they need to>> > > > > > reproduce successfully. They also seem to reproduce in homes. Some>> > > > > > may be programmed to carry diseases. >> > > > > >>> > > > > > I did not find coconut oil helpful on the body. When I put it on my>> > > > > > hands and feet it seemed to dry my skin out further so I stopped using>> > > > > > it. So no, it isn't just you Jess. It never was just you. >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------->> > > > > > *From: *"jessnyc" <helpnynow@>>> > > > > > **"Birdmites.org Website" <bird mites >>> > > > > > *Sent: *Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29:50 PM>> > > > > > *Subject: * So the fibers survive coconut oil?>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I bought>> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.>> > > > > >>> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow>> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or more>> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually I>> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them.>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves>> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full of>> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black, some>> > > > > > are also white and hard to see.>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and>> > > > > > reproduce in it.>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't>> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them.>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Jess.>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------>> > > > > >>> > > > > >

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Oh how wonderful , so happy for you and her ! How about yourself dear ? How are you feeling lately ? Getting better on the high dose medication?

Are you tolerating it ? Is your depression better ? I so much hope so !

I am doing really really well mite- and healthwise. I was having 2 nasty mite days last week and increased the doxy to 300 mg per day. Once again, the situation has improved since. It really feels like getting things under control. Last weekend not one mite bothering me!

Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 22:00 Dienstag, 27.März 2012Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Dear Aggi,

Thanks for asking Aggi. She is doing much better from what I hear. I was so freaked out, but now I'm a little embarrassed about it because lots of people get pneumonia, but I didn't know anything about pneumonia. They are out in the beautiful weather you've been having lately. You have the neatest parks there and I think they spent time at one of the local parks on Saturday.

Hugs, how are you doing?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:28:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Dear , I was just wondering how your daughter and granddaughter are doing meanwhile. Hope they are both better healthwise!

Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 17:19 Dienstag, 27.März 2012Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Hi Aggi and C

Yes, I've been warned about the sun effect with Doxy and I'm super careful... my skin gets irritated and burned easily with it. Also, my doctor told me to even cover up walking to the car! Imagine that. Just less than a minute to my car.

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:25:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Skin getting burnt is a result of the abx intake. If you read the leaflet, it will tell you that your skin is going to burn by the slightest exposure to the sun, even if you don't see the sun. Be very careful C, and protect your skin

accordingly ! I have got the very same problem as the weather is absolutely stunning right now.

Von: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 9:14 Dienstag, 27.März 2012Betreff: Re: Re: warmer weather and black and white dots

Thanks linda,aggi,marie n AandrayaI wont mention doxy to dermatology!Guess that means shudnt give samples of black white things gathered on cellotape!!I know I have to be careful becoz this is a unknown world for them,lucky sodsWe have pm n amPre mites n aftermites!!Am goin order another 3 month doxyBe six month altogether thenTum toleratin beter tho still feel sickSkin getin burnt on faceNeed a hat I can wash!!!With dog my friend got very angry at meAs im usualy very considerate of othersI got told of for bein rash n.getin dog outa lonelinesWhen may be puttin dog jeopardy cos mitesWhich in the last week I believe is,what isstil thereI feel guilt n fear every day nowMuch ad very fond dogAnxous every time she scratchBut have no proof shegot anythingSo waiting for frontline to ariveWill get a amto mite wash alsoMarie I havent ordered de as used on cat n me all

the timeAnd cat stil v botheredAnd guardin myself from coverin her in things if not totaly necesaryBeen washin her towels with my towels bedding tights n socksNow will wash her towels n beddin seperarely as im anxious partic my socks infectedMy lordWho wud o thought a human worried of infesting a dogId be so hapy bonsing with her if didnt have thisInstead we bond but have all this to deal withEvery scratch freaks me outIf she needs,nustock or other things shall getIm now,putting clove oil n neem oil on feet every daySlightly less black thingsConvinced mites as when getin off feet had on hands n imediately got bitesMy friend said cudnt have mites nowI said they cud be under skin reproducingI think I stupidly freaked her outWhat a awful affliction to get rid of belongings n home n still have them.hatching by the look o itAn the weather warmerTry protect the dogFeel bad that

ive put her in this,situationAnd myselfBut mites,just on feet n under hand nail bite ocasionaly elsewhereocasionalyBut not spreadingTake msmDoesnt helpSulphur soap does,thoughRealy depresedIts mentaly like a jail sentence Like punishmentDenied what others haveSimple need to be clean n untortured physicaly n mentalyDid u have ur conference on phone yet ?Must be nice to chat n hear everyones voice n character!:-)Hugs ------------------------------On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 09:53 PDT healinghope wrote:>C I am sorry for your hardship and pain. Just the stress of this beast alone will tax our immune system.>> g with DE animal and bedding, be sure and avoid eyes, cover because of dust. For ears I had used cedarcide. Now I use nu stock.>> I have also used nustock on everything from sores, rashes, hoof rot. Also have used on myself for rashes, ect. My

neighbor said she cured boils and skin cancer with nu stock. >>Also if you could take flower of sulfur daily would help. >http://www.herbalhealer.com/nustock.html>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16432>>>>--- In bird mites , Goldstein@... wrote:>>>> I'm grateful for this group too C. I don't know what I would have done without it. Also so grateful to Tim for his input and for the birdmites.com info. Life saving for me. For me, after the bird mites came and gradually went, it was time to address the infection,

pre-bird mites and those delivered by bird mites. >> >> >> C, after your dog's fur has dried after shower could you powder her with diatomaceous earth? Almost like a flea powder? That seems like it would keep things down on her as a preventive. Ask Marie if putting it in the ears is advisable. Somehow I don't think so. Marie has different remedies for the ears of her dogs. >> >> >> >> >> >> * So the fibers survive coconut oil? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I bought >> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow >> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or more >> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually I >> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them. >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves >> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full of >> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black, some >> > > > > > are also white and hard to see. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and >> > > > > > reproduce in it. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't >> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>> > > > > > >> > > > > > Jess. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ >> > > > > > >> > > > > >

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Hi linda

Sent u a mesage earlier but lost signal.just before,it sent so got lost!

I just read that ur daughter n grandaughter better

Im glad

I hadnt forgoten about them was wondering how they were

Wonder how krys n his mum are

He was so helpful to us all!!

Lovely person

Yes I think I may have bartonela

Have thought it for aa while since people here educated me about it

Hoped I no longer had mites

But last week when pickin black things of feet n examinin with fingers

Look like have tiny legs n look like what swarmed my feet

And then when they on my fingers felt bad bite sensation

So terribly upset n scared that they stil posibly reproducing

And cant b at peace until gone!!

Going dermatology next wednesday

My doc had said if they didnt find anything then she wanted me go c a

psychiatrist

As if ...

Its so insulting

Butvi have to b careful what I say

Ridiculous realy

Hugs

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 13:05 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>I like the fan idea better too. It does get so irritating when we think we are

doing everything we can to get them out of certain areas of the body! I wonder

if what that is causing the biting sensations on the feet is actually

Bartonella... I've read recently that Bartonella is becoming a world wide

epidemic. There are more vectors of Bartonella than any other disease. So that

means lice, scabies, mites of all types, spiders, ticks, biting flies can and do

carry it and many more vectors. It is just as hard to get rid of as Lyme

disease.

>

>

>

>

> * So the fibers survive coconut oil?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I had thought that coconut oil was a remedy for these fibers. I

bought

>> > > > > > some and had a small jar next to me at all times.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > When the oil was in liquid form, I noticed that the fibers somehow

>> > > > > > managed to get in the oil, my little jar had suddenly like 10 or

more

>> > > > > > fibers. After a while I saw they all stuck together, and eventually

I

>> > > > > > began seeing more and more of them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I wonder if they reproduced in the oil and assembled themselves

>> > > > > > together? That's what it looked like to me, my little jar is full

of

>> > > > > > some big and some tiny fibers, they're mostly blue red or black,

some

>> > > > > > are also white and hard to see.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I guess this shows they don't die with coconut oil, they thrive and

>> > > > > > reproduce in it.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jesus, is there anything remedy that actually kills them? I haven't

>> > > > > > found anything that would really kill them.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Has anyone had any success with coconut oil? Or is it just me?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Jess.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

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Hi ILIKETREES

if you mist the entire surface with 2 tbls coconit oil & 48 oz of watrm water

top of cieling to floor in & under everything it smothers the mites & the cnatt

crawl , repaet every 3 days. & it ends them. It even works in the car on

aplstry & leave no unsitely residue.

Peroxide & boraz & water mix kills them onthe skin quicly & make their bits

healfas & stop itching in 3 mins, it not repeat 20 mins later & it stops the

itch .

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 5:09 PM EDT ILIKE TREES wrote:

>

>Hi linda

>Sent u a mesage earlier but lost signal.just before,it sent so got lost!

>I just read that ur daughter n grandaughter better

>Im glad

>I hadnt forgoten about them was wondering how they were

>Wonder how krys n his mum are

>He was so helpful to us all!!

>Lovely person

>Yes I think I may have bartonela

>Have thought it for aa while since people here educated me about it

>Hoped I no longer had mites

>But last week when pickin black things of feet n examinin with fingers

>Look like have tiny legs n look like what swarmed my feet

>And then when they on my fingers felt bad bite sensation

>So terribly upset n scared that they stil posibly reproducing

>And cant b at peace until gone!!

>Going dermatology next wednesday

>My doc had said if they didnt find anything then she wanted me go c a

psychiatrist

>As if ...

>Its so insulting

>Butvi have to b careful what I say

>Ridiculous realy

>Hugs

>

>

>

>------------------------------

>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 13:05 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>

>>I like the fan idea better too. It does get so irritating when we think we

are doing everything we can to get them out of certain areas of the body! I

wonder if what that is causing the biting sensations on the feet is actually

Bartonella... I've read recently that Bartonella is becoming a world wide

epidemic. There are more vectors of Bartonella than any other disease. So that

means lice, scabies, mites of all types, spiders, ticks, biting flies can and do

carry it and many more vectors. It is just as hard to get rid of as Lyme

disease.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: " ILIKE TREES " <wherearetheangels@...>

>>bird mites@y

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Hi ILIKETREES

if you mist the entire surface with 2 tbls coconit oil & 48 oz of watrm water

top of cieling to floor in & under everything it smothers the mites & the cnatt

crawl , repaet every 3 days. & it ends them. It even works in the car on

aplstry & leave no unsitely residue.

Peroxide & boraz & water mix kills them onthe skin quicly & make their bits

healfas & stop itching in 3 mins, it not repeat 20 mins later & it stops the

itch .

The mix also heals lesions when I had heard of nothing else thet would , here

is the mix & the post I learned it from

REPOSTED:

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz

or bruning from this mix & it is cheap

If they are deep ones I use

8tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

8 oz peroxide (3%)

8 oz water.

From: Doe <doe1769@...>

Subj: FW: Fw: Borax

Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:55:34 -0800 (PST)

Size: 16k

Fw: Borax

Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 2:50:18

From: fritolay66 <fritolay66@...>

<bird mites >

I have a reason for posting this, that will come.

For now, there is good info here. I have used this on myself and is what healed

my first two craters of simmering hell on my arms way back when. I will remind

you those lesions were on the order of 7cm long and 5 cm wide. Substitute human

for dog. There is a great explanation of the usefulness of H202, vinegar, and

borax.

The actions of Borax can also be applied to the environment. This will also tell

you on how Borax works to kill and also addresses toxicity issues. Also,

remember, H202 is a penetrant and very effective.

Frito

...End of reposted post

I hope this helps you like it did me.

God bless you ILIKE TREES ,

Bill

Bible 5:13

13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let

them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the

prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he

have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16 Confess [your] faults one to

another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent

prayer of a righteous man availeth much. 17 Elias was a man subject to like

passions as we are, and he prayed19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the

truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner

from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a

multitude of sins.

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 5:09 PM EDT ILIKE TREES wrote:

>

>Hi linda

>Sent u a mesage earlier but lost signal.just before,it sent so got lost!

>I just read that ur daughter n grandaughter better

>Im glad

>I hadnt forgoten about them was wondering how they were

>Wonder how krys n his mum are

>He was so helpful to us all!!

>Lovely person

>Yes I think I may have bartonela

>Have thought it for aa while since people here educated me about it

>Hoped I no longer had mites

>But last week when pickin black things of feet n examinin with fingers

>Look like have tiny legs n look like what swarmed my feet

>And then when they on my fingers felt bad bite sensation

>So terribly upset n scared that they stil posibly reproducing

>And cant b at peace until gone!!

>Going dermatology next wednesday

>My doc had said if they didnt find anything then she wanted me go c a

psychiatrist

>As if ...

>Its so insulting

>Butvi have to b careful what I say

>Ridiculous realy

>Hugs

>

>

>

>------------------------------

>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 13:05 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>

>>I like the fan idea better too. It does get so irritating when we think we

are doing everything we can to get them out of certain areas of the body! I

wonder if what that is causing the biting sensations on the feet is actually

Bartonella... I've read recently that Bartonella is becoming a world wide

epidemic. There are more vectors of Bartonella than any other disease. So that

means lice, scabies, mites of all types, spiders, ticks, biting flies can and do

carry it and many more vectors. It is just as hard to get rid of as Lyme

disease.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: " ILIKE TREES " <wherearetheangels@...>

>>bird mites@y

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