Re: FOr , yes - the dust may carry parasites

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, I appreciate your insights as always and I do believe it is in the dust and that is why I used to feel things landing on my eyelashes and face, and it would only go away when I sprayed the air all over again half poisoning myself at the same time.

And I also believe that whatever it is will be with us forever and depending on our immune system, they will remain in hiding until we weaken again. Our body may be like our homes, a lot of places to hide and remain dormant until the opportunity presents itself to come to life again.

I will remain deathly afraid of dirty carpets all my life. I still live in a small hotel room with an old carpet and I never walk barefoot on it. But so far I am strong without symptoms of any kind and go to work every day.

Bottom line, it has humbled all of us and maybe that by itself is not such a bad thing. I don't have symtons anymore, but my heart pours out to all who are still suffering.

I still read everything on this forum and take it all to heart and still have hope someone will make a breakthrough on this horror.

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>Tim <bird mites > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:04 AMSubject: Just Thinking Out Loud

I was thinking about some of the things I've read over the years about bird mites, transmission of illnesses from mites and other vectors and I'm starting to piece together something that may or may not be of interest or relevant to any of you. But, read on.

It seems well known at this point that mites and other vectors like lice, fleas, biting flies and ticks are carrying Lyme Disease, Bartonella, Babesia and a host of other parasites and infections. If you get bit by any of these vectors your likelihood of getting Lyme Disease, Bartonella or another coinfection are likely. Sometimes a person's immune system can overcome and eliminate these infections, and sometimes the infections go into hiding for a long time and manifest at a later time.

In the past few years I've been trying to understand some of the worst of my illness symptoms, and whether they are Lyme symptoms or Bartonella or perhaps something else. Lately I'm focusing on Bartonella. I believe my eye symptoms are Bartonella and here is why:

1. Bartonella is a bacteria; there are many subtypes now, and the bacteria is evolving and changing. I had an acute infection in the eyes 1-1/2 years ago that was the most painful thing I've ever experienced with my eyes. The thing that got rid of the infection was antibiotic drops and steroid drops. I've continued to get watery eyes, with lots of floaters. I also have a waxy substance on my face that in the past would form false pimples, or papules, that had a clear liquid in them rather than what is contained in a pimple.

2. I noticed that when I recently stopped the antibiotics I had been taking a few weeks ago for the Bartonella (Doxy and Rifampin), the eye symptoms that had improved previously began to come back, which included floaters and watery eyes being the worst of the symptoms in the eyes. I also noticed a tension in neck and shoulder muscles reminiscent of what I had at the beginning of this illness almost 4 years ago. Symptoms worsened without the antibiotics in my system. When I started the antibiotics again those symptoms started to improve.

3. Here is the part that gets pretty strange about these thoughts and my theory. I read recently that Bartonella is found not just in vectors such as ticks, mites, spiders, biting flies, mosquitoes, etc., but also in dust. Bartonella is a bacteria found also in dust. Many people have become infected with something while just doing yard work, or in some cases, while sitting across the table from someone with this same affliction. People with Morgellons have often reported things flying off of them. Could something in the dust be biting us? I used to think it was mites in the dust, but now I am wondering if it is the dust itself with the Bartonella in it that causes the biting symptoms and the crawling.

4. From what I am reading from LLMD's such as Dr. Schiller, Bartonella has become the newest fastest growing infectious disease and is increasing at an alarming rate worldwide. Why would it be that Bartonella has become the most prevalent infectious disease throughout the world now? Possibilities included are a) genetic alteration of various bacteria (I read that Bartonella species were developed as bioweapons), global warming causing the increase of growth in certain bacterias and fungi c) chemtrail vapors contaminating the environment with this bioweaponized form of Bartonella d) being bit more frequently by ticks or other vectors that are giving us these diseases.

After the mites are gone is Bartonella still harbored in the body? The answer to that is yes. Many of the sensations I experience are Bartonella symptoms. Many of the people on this forum only started to get well when they started taking antibiotics, in fact, I'd say the majority of people here. Aandraya had all the typical symptoms of Lyme, Bartonella and Babesia. She no longer has fibers or sensations of biting, or crawling or movement on the body as she has been on antibiotics for over 2 years and antifungals as well. If Bartonella is contained in dust (and yes, much of my house dust contains fibers which are blue), it is the dust we have to be careful of.

I haven't finished this, but thought I would send it out anyway since this was on my mind today. I couldn't sleep so I'll post it now.

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Thanks Doris. I was putting 2 + 2 together for myself, and shared because I had read that same day that Bartonella can be found in dust. That surprised me. And I started thinking, what could be causing Bartonella in dust? Seems so odd... I also used to feel things on my eyelashes and face, hair, and biting sensations when I would sit down on the sofa which had not been vacuumed in so long. We just have to remain vigilant and humble too. I'm so happy you do not have any symptoms any more Doris. That by itself makes me so happy that a handful of people including yourself have found their way out of this mess. Moving as you did helps enormously. May not be the whole answer for many of us, but seems to really help.From: "los" <kean2465@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:13:51 AMSubject: Re: FOr , yes - the dust may carry parasites

, I appreciate your insights as always and I do believe it is in the dust and that is why I used to feel things landing on my eyelashes and face, and it would only go away when I sprayed the air all over again half poisoning myself at the same time.

And I also believe that whatever it is will be with us forever and depending on our immune system, they will remain in hiding until we weaken again. Our body may be like our homes, a lot of places to hide and remain dormant until the opportunity presents itself to come to life again.

I will remain deathly afraid of dirty carpets all my life. I still live in a small hotel room with an old carpet and I never walk barefoot on it. But so far I am strong without symptoms of any kind and go to work every day.

Bottom line, it has humbled all of us and maybe that by itself is not such a bad thing. I don't have symtons anymore, but my heart pours out to all who are still suffering.

I still read everything on this forum and take it all to heart and still have hope someone will make a breakthrough on this horror.

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>Tim <bird mites > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:04 AMSubject: Just Thinking Out Loud

I was thinking about some of the things I've read over the years about bird mites, transmission of illnesses from mites and other vectors and I'm starting to piece together something that may or may not be of interest or relevant to any of you. But, read on.

It seems well known at this point that mites and other vectors like lice, fleas, biting flies and ticks are carrying Lyme Disease, Bartonella, Babesia and a host of other parasites and infections. If you get bit by any of these vectors your likelihood of getting Lyme Disease, Bartonella or another coinfection are likely. Sometimes a person's immune system can overcome and eliminate these infections, and sometimes the infections go into hiding for a long time and manifest at a later time.

In the past few years I've been trying to understand some of the worst of my illness symptoms, and whether they are Lyme symptoms or Bartonella or perhaps something else. Lately I'm focusing on Bartonella. I believe my eye symptoms are Bartonella and here is why:

1. Bartonella is a bacteria; there are many subtypes now, and the bacteria is evolving and changing. I had an acute infection in the eyes 1-1/2 years ago that was the most painful thing I've ever experienced with my eyes. The thing that got rid of the infection was antibiotic drops and steroid drops. I've continued to get watery eyes, with lots of floaters. I also have a waxy substance on my face that in the past would form false pimples, or papules, that had a clear liquid in them rather than what is contained in a pimple.

2. I noticed that when I recently stopped the antibiotics I had been taking a few weeks ago for the Bartonella (Doxy and Rifampin), the eye symptoms that had improved previously began to come back, which included floaters and watery eyes being the worst of the symptoms in the eyes. I also noticed a tension in neck and shoulder muscles reminiscent of what I had at the beginning of this illness almost 4 years ago. Symptoms worsened without the antibiotics in my system. When I started the antibiotics again those symptoms started to improve.

3. Here is the part that gets pretty strange about these thoughts and my theory. I read recently that Bartonella is found not just in vectors such as ticks, mites, spiders, biting flies, mosquitoes, etc., but also in dust. Bartonella is a bacteria found also in dust. Many people have become infected with something while just doing yard work, or in some cases, while sitting across the table from someone with this same affliction. People with Morgellons have often reported things flying off of them. Could something in the dust be biting us? I used to think it was mites in the dust, but now I am wondering if it is the dust itself with the Bartonella in it that causes the biting symptoms and the crawling.

4. From what I am reading from LLMD's such as Dr. Schiller, Bartonella has become the newest fastest growing infectious disease and is increasing at an alarming rate worldwide. Why would it be that Bartonella has become the most prevalent infectious disease throughout the world now? Possibilities included are a) genetic alteration of various bacteria (I read that Bartonella species were developed as bioweapons), global warming causing the increase of growth in certain bacterias and fungi c) chemtrail vapors contaminating the environment with this bioweaponized form of Bartonella d) being bit more frequently by ticks or other vectors that are giving us these diseases.

After the mites are gone is Bartonella still harbored in the body? The answer to that is yes. Many of the sensations I experience are Bartonella symptoms. Many of the people on this forum only started to get well when they started taking antibiotics, in fact, I'd say the majority of people here. Aandraya had all the typical symptoms of Lyme, Bartonella and Babesia. She no longer has fibers or sensations of biting, or crawling or movement on the body as she has been on antibiotics for over 2 years and antifungals as well. If Bartonella is contained in dust (and yes, much of my house dust contains fibers which are blue), it is the dust we have to be careful of.

I haven't finished this, but thought I would send it out anyway since this was on my mind today. I couldn't sleep so I'll post it now.