Re: Just found about this forum

April 16, 2012

Birdluver Glad you found the group, wishing you did not need to though. I am

posting what has helped me. I had mites and springtails. Good luck, it can be

beat! Persistence! I used no towels after shower, only hair dryer or

towel. Soak brushes and combs, I use ammonia in air tight gallon jug. Treat

drains also, I use mms in my drains, or vinegar. I also have poured liquid lye

soap dozen drain and let sit over night, or fels naptha liquid. Sulfur helps

make me less attractive to insects too,

I have found treating yourself important, and natural as possible. For wash I

use fels naptha it will kill fungus and mites. For body and hair I use liquid

lye soap, when infested i would add flower of sulfur to liquid lye, especially

for hair. Hint use small amount of olive oil to mix the flower of sulfur then

add and blend to liquid lye. I have even left the liquid lye on my hair for bed.

Soak dry hair with liquid lye and let sit. Its just soap it will not hurt you.

Store bought soap will hurt you! I would use peppermint, tea tree, or plain

until healed. If mixing flower of sulfur use plain. After good scrub with lye,

and rinse. Soak in MMS bathes.

I also take flower of sulfur internally and MSM, this is very different from

MMS. Read and study, then go to war:)

Also treat drains weekly with white distilled vinegar, or MMS solution.

LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and

plant spray as well )

To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good

way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion

just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use

either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities

removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of

the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you

may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition

further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and

water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just

mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your

lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be

sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right

back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a

small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also

been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray

to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants.

To make laundry soap with fels naptha I use 1/3 cup shaved naptha boil with 6

cups water, add 6 cups cool water. Add borax. Stir for 24 hours can be used

right away.

Treat outside and anywhere not living attic basement ect with bifen, and

granules on grass, video below how to treat springtails, also kills mites.

Also bathing in MMS, and for me I take internally as well. Now just taking

maintenance dose.

Also orange guard worked well for me and is natural. This I used in my car alot,

and around bed.

http://orangeguard.com/

Also spray bedding with wintergreen alcohol and white vinegar before bed, and

pillows.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/-Brands-Wintergreen-70-Isopropyl-Alcohol-16-fl-oz\

\

/10423839

Lots of links and reading, good luck. I am cured.

PS you may have lyme many who are attractive to this beast have lyme:( try and

be tested, however the test are unreliable. Research the testing for lyme and

you will see some labs are better than others.

http://jimhumble.biz/

http://www.felsnaptha.com/store-locator

http://www.felsnaptha.com/

http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/Fels_Naptha_Soap_p/d1001.htm

http://debbieshandmadesoap.com/

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3031802

http://www.bugspray.com/article/springtail.html

http://www.pennherb.com/sulphur

http://www.pennherb.com/search?mp=s & se=msm

http://www.animedproducts.com/images/MSMPure2006.pdf

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW851/ItemDetail

>

> I've been living the horror of mites since the end of February. Exterminators

said it was either from rats (no signs of such) or birds (there was a bird nest

on a column by my front door). That bird nest had been there for years but as

soon as I heard it could be the culprit I ripped it down & sprayed all around.

Though my husband and I both live in the house I have become the host. They do

not bother him or he does not feel them. I have sent samples off to the

Entomology Dept at U of Florida and am anxiously awaiting results. I'm wondering

how long it might take.

>

> There are some possibilities of mites from other sources. Two days before they

woke me in the morning, swarmng all over me, my granddaughter had been here with

her two babies. She laid in my bed and nursed them as she has always done.

However, what is different now is that she and her fiance had recently moved

from an apartment to a house, a very old house, and they have a pig in a pen in

the back yard. And, he hunts racoons, kills them and puts them in a bag in the

freezer until he accumulates a few to send to a buyer who pays him per. My

granddaughter could have carried mites from either of those sources to my house.

However, I don't think the hundreds/millions that were swarming all over me

could have increased so in just 2 days. Could that be possible?

>

> Another possibility is: Possums have been tearing up my yard so I set traps

and leave them in the traps until they die then my husband puts the trap and all

in his van to dispose of the dead animal. It is highly likely that mites from

the possums got all over his van and him and he carried them into the house

where they adopted me.

>

> Another possibility is these could be mites from our yard. We have removed all

grass and covered the ground with mulch. When the leaves fall off the trees we

just leave them there. I was reading on the internet that there are mites that

thrive in decaying matter. Here in Central Florida we did not have the usual

winter freezes so it is an ideal setup for such mites.

>

> The original attack was in my bed. After a few nights I moved to the sofabed.

The first night was great but the second night they found me. I went outside and

slept in my van. It was uncomfortable but mite-free. After a few nights I

decided to make it more comfortable and brought out bedding. Bingo! I must have

carried them with me! I bought an air mattress and set it up in my dining room.

The first night was great! The second night they found me. Right before bedtime,

my husband sprayed the carpet, I laid down a sheet, set the air mattress on the

sheet and made a border of Borax all around the base of the air mattress. I

wasn't in bed five minutes and they were crawling on me. At about 3Am one Sunday

morning I dragged the air mattress into my office. I work there and thought it

was a bug free zone. I was exhaused and fell asleep quickly and slept soundly.

At 6 AM I woke up totally covered, worse than ever. They were swarming as never

before. I can't even describe the feeling I had in my body. I could feel

" spriong " " sproing " " sproing " ! I laid there thinking " My God! They are coming

out of my body " !!It was horrible. That day I told my husband I was going to jump

off the Sun Bank Building and he sprung into action. It's very hard for him to

see me suffering like this and not know how to fix it.

>

> I have tried many of the solutions I have seen on the internet, most are a

waste of time. Waking up with mites all over my face, in my nose, mouth and ears

totally freaks me out. My doctor had never heard of such a thing and didn't

believe me. Knowing that would probably be the case, my husband accompanied me

to see her. She gave me METHYLPREDNISOLONE & HYDROXYZINE. They help me sleep but

when I fall into a deep sleep I wake up traumatized because of all the mite

activity all over my body, especially my face. I keep a lint roller and pieces

of wide packing tape on a nightstand by my bed so when they wake me up, I can

remove the ones crawling on me, especially my face, neck & ears. I have been to

Leaves & Roots and bought Tea Tree Oil Extract, Shampoo, Conditioner & Body

Wash, Eucalyptus Extract, Oregano Extract. All nice, but none work. My husband

has bombed the house seven times - six bombs each times. He has sprayed with

BIfen 1T and Zenprox, in and out and spread granules. I have bathed in bleach

water, Lysol and Epsom Salts, used lice shampoo, sprayed myself with Lysol

Spray, Windex and Listerine and on and on and on. I have purchased vacuum

storage bags and after washing and/or drying on high heat I have encased all the

bedding previously on my bed, etc in the bags with moth balls and sealed them

shut with the vacuum - for the long term. No more bed pads, comfortors, pillows

and shams. I bought a storage cabinet for the back porch to keep the vacuum

cleaners in so they will be out of the house.

>

> I am going to seek the help of a local herbologist to see if there is

something I can do to make myself unattractive to them. There must be something

since they will pass up one person to get to another.

>

April 16, 2012

HI Birdluvr!

Do you actually also see the mites and have been able to capture samples? That would be good, cause if you get them id:d you know what youre fightnig against.

It seems like you have done a lot. But what I can read you havenÂ´t tried Diatomescious Earth. We had quite good results by spreading that all along floor boards and at all cracks and crevices. Maby you can try. To spray an IGR (insect growth inhibitor) also helped us, but we ended up movning and brought nothing cause I was desperate finally. By then we got rid of the mites but lost our safe economy, cause we had to sell the house cheap and lost all our belongins.

Try wash your laundry with borax and ammonia and steam iron after.

Good luck!Cecilia

From: birdluvr4evr <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:09 AMSubject: Just found about this forum

I've been living the horror of mites since the end of February. Exterminators said it was either from rats (no signs of such) or birds (there was a bird nest on a column by my front door). That bird nest had been there for years but as soon as I heard it could be the culprit I ripped it down & sprayed all around. Though my husband and I both live in the house I have become the host. They do not bother him or he does not feel them. I have sent samples off to the Entomology Dept at U of Florida and am anxiously awaiting results. I'm wondering how long it might take.There are some possibilities of mites from other sources. Two days before they woke me in the morning, swarmng all over me, my granddaughter had been here with her two babies. She laid in my bed and nursed them as she has always done. However, what is different now is that she and her fiance had recently moved from an apartment to a house, a very old house, and they have a pig

in a pen in the back yard. And, he hunts racoons, kills them and puts them in a bag in the freezer until he accumulates a few to send to a buyer who pays him per. My granddaughter could have carried mites from either of those sources to my house. However, I don't think the hundreds/millions that were swarming all over me could have increased so in just 2 days. Could that be possible?Another possibility is: Possums have been tearing up my yard so I set traps and leave them in the traps until they die then my husband puts the trap and all in his van to dispose of the dead animal. It is highly likely that mites from the possums got all over his van and him and he carried them into the house where they adopted me.Another possibility is these could be mites from our yard. We have removed all grass and covered the ground with mulch. When the leaves fall off the trees we just leave them there. I was reading on the internet that there are mites

that thrive in decaying matter. Here in Central Florida we did not have the usual winter freezes so it is an ideal setup for such mites.The original attack was in my bed. After a few nights I moved to the sofabed. The first night was great but the second night they found me. I went outside and slept in my van. It was uncomfortable but mite-free. After a few nights I decided to make it more comfortable and brought out bedding. Bingo! I must have carried them with me! I bought an air mattress and set it up in my dining room. The first night was great! The second night they found me. Right before bedtime, my husband sprayed the carpet, I laid down a sheet, set the air mattress on the sheet and made a border of Borax all around the base of the air mattress. I wasn't in bed five minutes and they were crawling on me. At about 3Am one Sunday morning I dragged the air mattress into my office. I work there and thought it was a bug free zone. I was

exhaused and fell asleep quickly and slept soundly. At 6 AM I woke up totally covered, worse than ever. They were swarming as never before. I can't even describe the feeling I had in my body. I could feel "spriong" "sproing" "sproing"! I laid there thinking "My God! They are coming out of my body"!!It was horrible. That day I told my husband I was going to jump off the Sun Bank Building and he sprung into action. It's very hard for him to see me suffering like this and not know how to fix it. I have tried many of the solutions I have seen on the internet, most are a waste of time. Waking up with mites all over my face, in my nose, mouth and ears totally freaks me out. My doctor had never heard of such a thing and didn't believe me. Knowing that would probably be the case, my husband accompanied me to see her. She gave me METHYLPREDNISOLONE & HYDROXYZINE. They help me sleep but when I fall into a deep sleep I wake up traumatized because of

all the mite activity all over my body, especially my face. I keep a lint roller and pieces of wide packing tape on a nightstand by my bed so when they wake me up, I can remove the ones crawling on me, especially my face, neck & ears. I have been to Leaves & Roots and bought Tea Tree Oil Extract, Shampoo, Conditioner & Body Wash, Eucalyptus Extract, Oregano Extract. All nice, but none work. My husband has bombed the house seven times - six bombs each times. He has sprayed with BIfen 1T and Zenprox, in and out and spread granules. I have bathed in bleach water, Lysol and Epsom Salts, used lice shampoo, sprayed myself with Lysol Spray, Windex and Listerine and on and on and on. I have purchased vacuum storage bags and after washing and/or drying on high heat I have encased all the bedding previously on my bed, etc in the bags with moth balls and sealed them shut with the vacuum - for the long term. No more bed pads, comfortors, pillows and

shams. I bought a storage cabinet for the back porch to keep the vacuum cleaners in so they will be out of the house. I am going to seek the help of a local herbologist to see if there is something I can do to make myself unattractive to them. There must be something since they will pass up one person to get to another.

April 16, 2012

So sorry ur suffering

We are a good group here n will support you

You are not alone!!

Ive still got problems with my feet that haven't resolved as yet

But used to have crawling all over my legs

That'd stopped after using sulphur soap neem oil clove oil on them twice a day

for quite a while

Doxycycline antibiotic bought over internet helps with bite sensation n crawly

sensation

Doesnt go overnight however

I feel for you where u are at

In my old flat they swarmed me.

Saw on feet

Horrific

And my old cat got adress n died with insecticide

But I no longer have them swarming

I felt suicidal almost also

Lots of us been there

Hang in there

It will improve

N one day be a distant memory

God bless you n take care

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 00:09 PDT birdluvr4evr wrote:

>I've been living the horror of mites since the end of February. Exterminators