knockdowns: how much? + lifecycle treatments: room spray and evening primrose

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Good question, miteymaid!The purpose of a knockdown is not to kill but to keep us from being bitten while we spray. So anything that will prevent that will work. Pinesol works for two reasons: its strong smell masks our human scent, and they don't like the smell, so it serves as a repellent. Because it is so strong, and because we are dealing with micro-organisms, I use no more than a teaspoon of Pinesol or 3 or 4 drops of LimeAway if that is what I have on hand instead. And even though that doesn't sound like much, remember we are dealing with little tiny olfactory nerves, so something very mild to us may seem very strong to them. There is no need to be heavy-handed in this case, because we have to live in the environment

too.Life Cycle Treatments: Anything that works on life cycles, including my room spray (external) and evening primrose oil (internal), takes time to kick in. So, the first time I used my room spray recipe, it was 8 weeks before I noticed any difference. Since that first time, even if I go more than 6 months between sprays, it only takes a couple of days to kick back in. The first time I took evening primrose, it took three weeks to see a benefit but I stuck with it because I knew it was supposed to eliminate my night sweats, and I had no other alternative but to keep taking it and see. Now, if I run out and it gets out of my system, I only need take it for a day or two to

regain the benefits.Why Spray Your Own House?1. Cheaper (no labor, plus spray only twice a year vs monthly)2. More effective (doesn't drive crtters into hiding, does meet them where they are and destroy life cycle)3. Less toxic (depends on knockdown chosen); no pesticidesBONUS NOTE: If

you use an herbal insect repellent on your body or in your home, try adding in a very strong sweet perfume oil like Opium. Not only does it seem to hide the insect repellent odor, I also actually have people say "What smells so good?" I tried other categories of fragrances, many of them. The only thing I had luck with were strong sweet ones. Safari is another one. It has to be strong, though. I'm sure there is at least one

newer and trendier fragrance that would work too.

kajay From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: New to this group, and I hope you can help me

Dr. Bock is in Pa. so that's too far but thank you for all the info. I have to work also on getting them out of my environment. They're starting to bite a lot now the heat is off and now I may have a few options to work with. Have to spray again although I don't like using pesticide. Kajay, how much Pinesol did you mix with the Igr? Thanks Marie, saw that you tube film of the Dr. Phil show. Thought he presented a powerful rebuttal to that doctor from Hopkins, wish he had that extra piece on the healthcare politics on the show also but did see it on you tube.

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> > > > > > > Hello all, I know, after reading many of the posts here,

> > that

> > > > many of

> > > > > > > you are suffering terribly from multiple diseases, perhaps

> > > > caused by

> > > > > > > bird mites, perhaps not. I can't really tell as I am joining

> > > > in the

> > > > > > > middle of some of your discussions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But, I could really use some advice from people who are

> > > > undergoing

> > > > > > > issues with bird mites or have undergone them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I guess I was living in blissful ignorance up til now.

> > Wish I

> > > > could go

> > > > > > > back to that time before I ever heard of bird mites. I

> > raised

> > > > > > > canaries. Well, I took them over from my father when he

> > passed

> > > > away a

> > > > > > > year ago. One day I noticed these little brown specks

> > jumping

> > > > onto my

> > > > > > > hand from the bird cages. Lots of calls and conversations

> > with

> > > > > > > Entomologists and Pest Controllers led me to understand that

> > > > these

> > > > > > > were red bird mites (chicken mites). I already had been

> > > > scratching a

> > > > > > > lot and thought it was fleas from my dogs. So, I got rid of

> > > > all my

> > > > > > > birds. I have an impaired immune system due to a rare

> > disease

> > > > called

> > > > > > > Dercums. Lots of pain and fatigue and many other things.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After giving all of my birds to a fellow bird fancier, I

> > > > immediately

> > > > > > > fumigated my home. (Nygaard IGR with Onslaught and DE for

> > the

> > > > attic).

> > > > > > > This seemed to help for a day or two and then I was attacked

> > > > in droves

> > > > > > > of them (having no bird to feed on, I was the next best.

> > along

> > > > with my

> > > > > > > little dog, who is old and not well. My teen age son and his

> > > > younger

> > > > > > > dog have been fairly unaffected). I did everything I

> > could. I

> > > > vacuumed

> > > > > > > constantly, sprayed with ammonia, bleach, kleen free, washed

> > > > all my

> > > > > > > clothes in hot water with borax and ammonia, etc. etc.). But

> > > > after

> > > > > > > three weeks I could not take it any longer. So, called Pest

> > > > Company

> > > > > > > back out and they treated again. This time with a product

> > called

> > > > > > > Zenprox. This time I went through all of my closets and

> > threw

> > > > away

> > > > > > > almost all of my clothes. What I kept went into plastic bags

> > > > with moth

> > > > > > > balls and were kept outside or in the garage. Again, the

> > mites

> > > > > > > returned. So a couple of days ago, the Pest Control company

> > > > came out

> > > > > > > and sprayed again with Onslaught and an exciter (don't

> > know the

> > > > > > > product name) and drilled holds into the walls where the

> > mites

> > > > were

> > > > > > > the worst (like my bedroom and the room where the birds had

> > > > been kept)

> > > > > > > and put a fogger into the walls. I had been away for a

> > week in

> > > > a local

> > > > > > > motel just so I could get some rest and to combat multiple

> > > > cold sores

> > > > > > > and a bladder infection. Upon returning yesterday I noticed

> > > > the mites

> > > > > > > are still here. Relentless. I even started wearing a dog

> > > > collar at

> > > > > > > night to keep them out of my mouth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is the absolute worst thing that has been happening.

> > They

> > > > just

> > > > > > > won't stay out of my mouth. I am constantly coughing up

> > mites.

> > > > I am

> > > > > > > gargling incessantly and wear Vicks Vapor Rub all over my

> > > > mouth, nose

> > > > > > > and neck to discourage them during the day. But they still

> > get

> > > > in. I

> > > > > > > have been battling these mites for over 6 weeks now and

> > > > nothing is

> > > > > > > working. I spent 3 hours vacuuming yesterday but the PCO did

> > > > not want

> > > > > > > me to doing anything other than that because she did not

> > want

> > > > anything

> > > > > > > to counteract the fumigant. Most of my clothes I keep

> > outside

> > > > now

> > > > > > > (even the ones that I wear). They are in plastic tubs with

> > moth

> > > > > > > chrystals in them. I am washing all my bed linens every

> > day and

> > > > > > > whatever clothes I have worn. This morning my back hurts

> > > > between my

> > > > > > > shoulder blades and I am coughing up brown stuff. I am very

> > > > worried

> > > > > > > that somehow mites have gotten into my lungs. I know they

> > aren't

> > > > > > > supposed to be able to live off of humans, nor are they

> > > > supposed to

> > > > > > > live inside a human body. But I can't say that I believe

> > this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Has anyone in this group encountered anything similar to

> > this?

> > > > Or are

> > > > > > > there any suggestions or advice anyone can give me. My

> > > > daughter is

> > > > > > > getting married this summer and my happiness for her and

> > > > ability to

> > > > > > > help plan her wedding has all been destroyed by these

> > mites. I

> > > > just

> > > > > > > don't know what to do.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Forgive me please as I know many of you are suffering far

> > > > worse than

> > > > > > > me, but still, I could really use some help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you so much and my best wishes to everyone here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Terry

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