Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 All, Just a cautionary note. I notice there have been one or two recent posting with criticisms of various companies of late. Please remember this is an open forum and you should also be aware that the majority of large medical provision companies do have representatives monitoring the list, some choose to do this openly, others do so more furtively. I am not in any way trying to curb your freedom of speech and if you have had bad experiences with a particular outfit then its only right you should share it with your friends and colleagues, however that must be tempered by the fact whatever you write should be both truthful and accurate and you must be aware that the company in question also has the right to respond and defend itself be it on the forum or off the forum on a legal basis. Bottom line chaps is remember anything your write is potential Libel and you must be able to defend your statements. Libel ; a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person or entity Finally please also remember that anything posted should be for the benefit of the membership, a protracted disagreement on the list serves no purpose and will be moderated. Best Wishes List Owner - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ian Sharpe Medical Response and Audit Coordinator They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them. For the Fallen - 1914. ce Binyon (1869-1943) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hello everyone, I was fully aware, before constructing my message, that my posting would generate a degree of response. That was the primary purpose of such a posting, to generate discussion. Now you will see from my posting that I have deliberately not named, nor even hinted at the company or companies that I was involved in. Some members may well draw their own conclusion as to what organisation(s) my involvement was in Libya and that is something that persons may well be cautious about. We, as a group of professionals, should certainly discuss openly and freely the experiences that we encounter, but to deliberately imply one company or another may well seek to undermine our neutrality. The advice was to get absolutely everything in writing, do your research and establish a detailed list of equipment before deployment and if a company is not prepared to do that then my advice would to be the exercising of extreme caution. The ultimate decision to deploy is indeed the medics' but on arrival if support is not there, one should really determine if you cann perform to the level that if rightly expected for the remuneration and contractual agreement that you entered. Unless we are prepared to work together and establish firm ethics for being involved with companies, nothing will change and you can be assured that there are a great many companies out there that seek to embed Paramedics but not support them, or at the very best, support them to a poor standard. Professionally we need to educate companies that the Remote Medic does not necessarilly need EVERY single item on a " City " Paramedic kit list, but needs a somewhat different bag of tricks, where one is prepared to improvise and adapt based on sound clinical, technical and professional knowledge and experience. That said, we do need a somewhat more extensive range of pharmaceuticals for those protracted extrication times and arduous terrain journeys. So please note that my postings do not support those who seek to defame, insult nor undermine individuals or companies but to broaden the discussion and seek to provoke thought and professionalism in all areas. Seek out good jobs, establish the standards (in detail) and research the logistics. If necessary contract to take the kit yourself, but be careful of the legislation of importing pharmaceuticals. Thank you all. > > All, > > Just a cautionary note. > > I notice there have been one or two recent posting with criticisms of > various companies of late. > > Please remember this is an open forum and you should also be aware that > the majority of large medical provision companies do have > representatives monitoring the list, some choose to do this openly, > others do so more furtively. > > I am not in any way trying to curb your freedom of speech and if you > have had bad experiences with a particular outfit then its only right > you should share it with your friends and colleagues, however that must > be tempered by the fact whatever you write should be both truthful and > accurate and you must be aware that the company in question also has the > right to respond and defend itself be it on the forum or off the forum > on a legal basis. > > Bottom line chaps is remember anything your write is potential Libel and > you must be able to defend your statements. > > Libel ; a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of > defaming a living person or entity > > Finally please also remember that anything posted should be for the > benefit of the membership, a protracted disagreement on the list serves > no purpose and will be moderated. > > Best Wishes > > List Owner > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - > > Ian Sharpe > Medical Response and Audit Coordinator > > They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: > Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn. > At the going down of the sun and in the morning > We will remember them. > > For the Fallen - 1914. ce Binyon (1869-1943) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 The guy is right Very right It's a small world Their is not many of us The leaning curve is sharp Since We learn from our experience I think we should do just that Learnfrom OUR experience In the end the outfit/company tose not much matter Let's praise the good ones and/or the god projects The rest will sort themselves out --- Dryden <peter.dryden@...> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was fully aware, before constructing my message, that my posting > would generate a degree of response. That was the primary purpose of > such a posting, to generate discussion. > > Now you will see from my posting that I have deliberately not named, > nor even hinted at the company or companies that I was involved in. > > Some members may well draw their own conclusion as to what > organisation(s) my involvement was in Libya and that is something > that persons may well be cautious about. > > We, as a group of professionals, should certainly discuss openly and > freely the experiences that we encounter, but to deliberately imply > one company or another may well seek to undermine our neutrality. > > The advice was to get absolutely everything in writing, do your > research and establish a detailed list of equipment before deployment > and if a company is not prepared to do that then my advice would to > be the exercising of extreme caution. The ultimate decision to deploy > is indeed the medics' but on arrival if support is not there, one > should really determine if you cann perform to the level that if > rightly expected for the remuneration and contractual agreement that > you entered. > > Unless we are prepared to work together and establish firm ethics for > being involved with companies, nothing will change and you can be > assured that there are a great many companies out there that seek to > embed Paramedics but not support them, or at the very best, support > them to a poor standard. > > Professionally we need to educate companies that the Remote Medic > does not necessarilly need EVERY single item on a " City " Paramedic > kit list, but needs a somewhat different bag of tricks, where one is > prepared to improvise and adapt based on sound clinical, technical > and professional knowledge and experience. That said, we do need a > somewhat more extensive range of pharmaceuticals for those protracted > extrication times and arduous terrain journeys. > > So please note that my postings do not support those who seek to > defame, insult nor undermine individuals or companies but to broaden > the discussion and seek to provoke thought and professionalism in all > areas. > > Seek out good jobs, establish the standards (in detail) and research > the logistics. If necessary contract to take the kit yourself, but be > careful of the legislation of importing pharmaceuticals. > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > All, > > > > Just a cautionary note. > > > > I notice there have been one or two recent posting with criticisms > of > > various companies of late. > > > > Please remember this is an open forum and you should also be aware > that > > the majority of large medical provision companies do have > > representatives monitoring the list, some choose to do this openly, > > others do so more furtively. > > > > I am not in any way trying to curb your freedom of speech and if you > > have had bad experiences with a particular outfit then its only > right > > you should share it with your friends and colleagues, however that > must > > be tempered by the fact whatever you write should be both truthful > and > > accurate and you must be aware that the company in question also > has the > > right to respond and defend itself be it on the forum or off the > forum > > on a legal basis. > > > > Bottom line chaps is remember anything your write is potential > Libel and > > you must be able to defend your statements. > > > > Libel ; a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose > of > > defaming a living person or entity > > > > Finally please also remember that anything posted should be for the > > benefit of the membership, a protracted disagreement on the list > serves > > no purpose and will be moderated. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > List Owner > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - > > - - - - - - - - - > > > > Ian Sharpe > > Medical Response and Audit Coordinator > > > > They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: > > Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn. > > At the going down of the sun and in the morning > > We will remember them. > > > > For the Fallen - 1914. ce Binyon (1869-1943) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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