hi there

[Guest guest]

I get up at 5:15 most mornings. Sometimes my meals are only 2 hours

apart and other times they end up almost 4 hours it depends on my

schedule. I use protoplex light and I eityer use all skim milk or I

do half skim milk half coffee. I also use a whey protein (natural

flavor that I add 8 0z ofdiet cranberrie juice and frozen berries and

ice. Oh and yes I always add 1 tbs of flax seed oil. I lost a whole

bunch of weight in the beginning 11 lbs. Now I am only losing inches

and not pounds, but I am currently starting W6 so I'm just keeping

faith that I will ose some more pounds in the weeks to follow.

Bridgette\

> I have been semi-lurking for almost a year and a half, and I'm

> finally now starting C1W1D1. So far, it's been ok. I woke up

late,

> so all I've eaten today is:

> 3 egg whites + 1 whole egg + 2 slices of LF wheat toast

> the cinnamon bun myoplex shake

> 1 container of juice added pineapple and some cottage cheese

>

> dinner tonight will be a chicken breast, a baked potato and steamed

> broc/caul/carrot mix (california mix, my fave!)

>

> I'm going to mix a choc myoplex and freeze it so it'll be just like

> soft serve.

>

> Now I have a couple of questions. I've read that you are supposed

> to make the shakes with water. I'm sorry, but I just can't do it.

> I have to use skim milk. Do any of you use skim milk with your

> shakes?

>

> Why is it that week 4 through 6 (do I have it right?) gives you a

> plateau? What time do you guys get up in the morning to do your

> work outs and get all your meals in? I once calculated with my

> schedule that I would have to get up at 5:30 am to be able to get

in

> my workout and get all 6 meals in at 2 and 3 hour intervals. What

> do you guys do?

>

> I am really looking forward to losing weight and all that. I'm

> feeling kind of shy about posting my before shots though. Has

> anyone else felt that way? I haven't done my measurments yet,

> because I don't have a measuring tape, but I'll get one tomorrow.

>

> My goals for my first challenge are to lose 25 lbs of body fat, and

> gain 10 lbs of muscle, lose lots of inches and increase my strength

> and endurance. At this time, I weight 275 lbs and I'm 5'8 " .

>

> After seeing your pictures and reading about your experiences, I

> feel a little bit more confident that I can do this if you guys

> can. I can tell you guys are alot of fun and I'm looking forward

to

> getting to know you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Now I have a couple of questions. I've read that you are supposed

> to make the shakes with water. I'm sorry, but I just can't do

it.

> I have to use skim milk. Do any of you use skim milk with your

> shakes?

**************I have used milk before but not often. You get a lot

of lactose (milk sugar) that some think isn't great for your body.

If you have to have milk then stick with that for a couple of weeks

and then maybe start using half milk/half water for a couple of

weeks and then switch to all water. I find that if I use a lot of

ice and make the shake more of a slushy than a shake I can use all

water and not gag.

> Why is it that week 4 through 6 (do I have it right?) gives you a

> plateau?

*************** I don't really think that there's a plateau. I

think that it's just that you have busted your butt for 4 weeks and

deprived yourself. You've lost a few pounds water weight in the

first week or two and you've felt tired and worn out from a new

schedule that you just don't see as much progress as you think you

should see. I think you're body is not in a plateau at all. I just

think that we all think there should be more fat loss than really

happens.

>>What time do you guys get up in the morning to do your

> work outs and get all your meals in?

****************** I get up at 4:45AM. I take a about 20 minutes to

brush teeth, get dressed, drink a Diet mt Dew or cup of coffee and

read the posts from the night before. I'm usually in the gym (my

basement) by about 5:20AM.

>>I once calculated with my

> schedule that I would have to get up at 5:30 am to be able to get

in

> my workout and get all 6 meals in at 2 and 3 hour intervals. What

> do you guys do?

********** Meal 1: 7:30, Meal 2: 10:30, Meal 3: 12:30, Meal 4:

3:30, Meal 5 6:30. I usually don't get a 6th meal. But sometimes

I'll get hungry around 5:00 and have a shake on the way home from

work for Meal 5 and then eat Meal 6 about 7:00.

> I am really looking forward to losing weight and all that. I'm

> feeling kind of shy about posting my before shots though. Has

> anyone else felt that way? I haven't done my measurments yet,

> because I don't have a measuring tape, but I'll get one tomorrow.

************Posting pics is can be soooooo important. Sometimes it

takes someone else's eye to see the changes you've made. We can

sometimes be too critical of ourselves.

Debra

[Guest guest]

Jane,

You are in the right place! My son also has been physically aggressive for the

past 2 years. Medication has helped considerably. The only rough times with

him are in the morning and late afternoon (when it's time for his pills or they

haven't kicked in yet).

Today was the first time in ages that I was able to wash his hair without

getting hit. I got shoved twice, but not hit.

It was a long road to getting the right medication combo and very frustrating

and sometimes down right exhausting - but things are so much better now than

they were even a month ago.

, mom to , age 10

Hi There

I am new to this group. I live in the UK and have a daughter

aged 10.

At the moment I am having major behaviour problems with her, she hits

out at me quite violently and I am beginning to think its maybe

hormonal as she is entering pubery.

She also has Selective Eating Disorder.

Anyone got any experience of these problems

Thanks

Jane

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Hi

I'm in the UK too - Greater London. Where are you?

The UK actually has quite a good range of low fat stuff, and it's

not too difficult to make up interesting meals. For example, on

Sundays we cook up a batch of food which we freeze in individual

portions, such as savoury mince (a complete meal as it consists of

low fat mince with veg such as carrots and potatoes), chicken

casseroles, beef stews etc. These are all easy to freeze (in fist-

size tuppawares we buy from Tescos!) and make weekday meal planning

very easy. For my sweet tooth, I blend smooth very low fat cottage

cheese with muller lite yoghurt and a small tin of tinned peaches in

their own juice (not syrup). I chuck in a few teaspoons of Splenda,

then blend again with a sachet of sugar-free jelly and voila! A

delicious, sweet, fruit mousse - which makes enough for 4 to 6 small

bowls (1g fat per bowl of 85g), so I don't have to do it every

night. I normally have it as my last meal, when I prefer something

light, and also it serves as my late-night tv snack. For a change,

I also make meringues (using Splenda), served with fruit. They're

great for a sweet tooth.

You say you are not enjoying the process of eating healthy and can't

wait until 12 weeks is over... what are you going to do then? Go

back to your previous eating habits? Wouldn't this completely

destroy all the hard work you've done so far? All I know is that it

was my bad eating habits that brought me to BFL - I can't see the

point of only committing to 12 weeks of it, because I know my body!

If I just stopped after 12 weeks and reverted to my old eating plan,

my body will happily (and quickly!) revert to its old shape! Ugh!

You should try to find healthy foods that suit your tastebuds, even

if they are not 100% " legal " because maintaining that over the long

term would be a lot better than eating super-healthily for 12 weeks

and then just suddenly stopping! The fast deterioration back into

flab (and sluggishness and general feeling low) is just SO not worth

it.

How have your results been so far? Are you happy with your progress?

Keep us posted with your progress for the next 2 weeks (and

beyond!). Don't give up.

PS - I've just ordered some sugar-free syrup from the Carb minders

website; a friend used to order from them regularly and always got

her stuff in around 3 days. Let me know and I'll dig out the url

for you if you want it.

>

> I just joined this group and thought I would say hello and

introduce myself. I'm on a bit of

> a modified BFL program, I am 10 weeks into it and I'm finding it

hard to make it through

> the final stretch.

>

> The food is getting difficult because I am sick of eating turkey

and tuna and finding other

> healthy things to eat is hard (living in the UK where there is no

such thing as lowfat

> anything! well, most things). I have been scouring the internet

for healthy recipes but

> there are so many items that I can't get here. (yeah, I know, I'm

sure I could order

> something and wait 10 weeks to get it and pay a small fortune).

Also, trying to cut out

> refined sugar completely and my sweet tooth is causing me weird

cravings. I tried to curb

> them by having a Weight Watchers " diet " chocolate yule log (its

like a little snack cake), but

> I went mad and ate the whole box! I do allow myself to have a

sweet on my cheat meal,

> but I seriously cannot wait until the 12 weeks are up!

>

> As far as exercise goes, all is going well. I was a runner before

the program, and my

> endurance has greatly increased! But I am finding it difficult

with some of the weight lifting

> exercises because the dumbells have gotten too heavy to lift over

my head safely, and I

> can't seem to progress and increase the weight on some other

moves. I am kind of stuck

> in a rut, I will keep scouring the internet for more exercises. I

wish I could afford a trainer

> but its just not doable right now. I am going to have to start

using the barbells, which I am

> kind of afraid of.

>

> ugh, sorry that was a bit of a rant! Anyway, glad to get it off my

chest

>

> -cheers

> shannon

>

>

> ---------------------

> c i r c u m s t a n c e . o r g

> ---------------------

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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:54:35 -0000, shannon_wisner

<shannon.wisner@...> wrote:

>

> I just joined this group and thought I would say hello and introduce myself.

> I'm on a bit of

> a modified BFL program, I am 10 weeks into it and I'm finding it hard to

> make it through

> the final stretch.

>

> The food is getting difficult because I am sick of eating turkey and tuna

> and finding other

> healthy things to eat is hard (living in the UK where there is no such thing

> as lowfat

> anything! well, most things). I have been scouring the internet for healthy

> recipes but

> there are so many items that I can't get here. (yeah, I know, I'm sure I

> could order

> something and wait 10 weeks to get it and pay a small fortune). Also, trying

> to cut out

> refined sugar completely and my sweet tooth is causing me weird cravings. I

> tried to curb

> them by having a Weight Watchers " diet " chocolate yule log (its like a

> little snack cake), but

> I went mad and ate the whole box! I do allow myself to have a sweet on my

> cheat meal,

> but I seriously cannot wait until the 12 weeks are up!

>

> As far as exercise goes, all is going well. I was a runner before the

> program, and my

> endurance has greatly increased! But I am finding it difficult with some of

> the weight lifting

> exercises because the dumbells have gotten too heavy to lift over my head

> safely, and I

> can't seem to progress and increase the weight on some other moves. I am

> kind of stuck

> in a rut, I will keep scouring the internet for more exercises. I wish I

> could afford a trainer

> but its just not doable right now. I am going to have to start using the

> barbells, which I am

> kind of afraid of.

>

> ugh, sorry that was a bit of a rant! Anyway, glad to get it off my chest

>

> -cheers

> shannon

>

>

> ---------------------

> c i r c u m s t a n c e . o r g

> ---------------------

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tusbart-

Thanks for the advice and recipes, but I don't like yogurt and

artificial sweeteners do not

satisfy in the slightest. I am slowly getting used to Pepsi Max, but

that is about it on the

fake sweet front. When I said " low fat " I should have said healthy,

because there are plenty

of " low fat " things with plenty of sugar and hydrogenated oils...

My previous eating habits before I started BFL (although technically

I'm not doing BFL, I " m

only borrowing the weight lifting plan from there, I'm more closely

following the BFFM by

T. Venuto) were not horrible. I was not out of shape, I ran

regularly. I just hadn't seen the

inside of a gym in a few years due to relocating to London (I am an

American expat). The

big change was counting calories and micronutrients, eating small

meals 5 or 6 times a

day and avoiding refined sugar. And it has made a big change in my

energy level, eating

frequently, I feel much more calmer. But I'm not going to weigh my

food and count

calories forever, or completely cut out refined sugar. I just did it

as an experiment to see

what results I could get. I have lost weight before without modifying

my diet at all, just by

adding weight lifting to my fitness routine. This time around the

change has been faster

and more dramatic, which is why I want to reassess my goal at the end

of the 12 weeks.

As far as results, in 2 months I have lost 2 measly Kilograms! hah.

But I have lost 2 inches

from my waist, almost 2 from my thighs and hips. from 32% fat to

27%... My running

endurance and speed has also increased greatly, I can now do a 10

mile training run at

around a 10 minute mile pace and still feel great afterward, almost

zero recovery time.

Shorter distances I can do much faster as well.

I could give you a long list of healthy foods that are simply not

available here that are in

the US, but I don't want to sound like a whiner. I spent a few days

hunting down

applesauce for a muffin recipe (I finally found a dusty jar on the

bottom shelf of a better

health food store!) but I couldn't find any plain protein powder, so

my muffins fall short in

protein!! ugh. But I'm happy that I can eat REAL bacon as a protein

supplement (ok its

Sainsbury's BGTY bacon, but at 51 cals/10g protien/0.8g of fat for

two rashers, its a damn

good deal) which I'm sure you cannot get back in the US.

I skipped my easy 3 mile run this morning so I'm kind of in a bad

mood. Means I need to

change around my whole weekly schedule to get in my miles for the

week.

I think I might have seen that web site you're talking about--

everything I wanted to order

was sold out last time I looked!

Oh, I live in SW London. I don't live anywhere near a Tescos either!

I'm sure they will be

building one around here someday though.

-s

>

> Hi

>

> I'm in the UK too - Greater London. Where are you?

>

> The UK actually has quite a good range of low fat stuff, and it's

> not too difficult to make up interesting meals. For example, on

> Sundays we cook up a batch of food which we freeze in individual

> portions, such as savoury mince (a complete meal as it consists of

> low fat mince with veg such as carrots and potatoes), chicken

> casseroles, beef stews etc. These are all easy to freeze (in fist-

> size tuppawares we buy from Tescos!) and make weekday meal planning

> very easy. For my sweet tooth, I blend smooth very low fat cottage

> cheese with muller lite yoghurt and a small tin of tinned peaches

in

> their own juice (not syrup). I chuck in a few teaspoons of

Splenda,

> then blend again with a sachet of sugar-free jelly and voila! A

> delicious, sweet, fruit mousse - which makes enough for 4 to 6

small

> bowls (1g fat per bowl of 85g), so I don't have to do it every

> night. I normally have it as my last meal, when I prefer something

> light, and also it serves as my late-night tv snack. For a change,

> I also make meringues (using Splenda), served with fruit. They're

> great for a sweet tooth.

>

> You say you are not enjoying the process of eating healthy and

can't

> wait until 12 weeks is over... what are you going to do then? Go

> back to your previous eating habits? Wouldn't this completely

> destroy all the hard work you've done so far? All I know is that

it

> was my bad eating habits that brought me to BFL - I can't see the

> point of only committing to 12 weeks of it, because I know my body!

> If I just stopped after 12 weeks and reverted to my old eating

plan,

> my body will happily (and quickly!) revert to its old shape! Ugh!

> You should try to find healthy foods that suit your tastebuds, even

> if they are not 100% " legal " because maintaining that over the long

> term would be a lot better than eating super-healthily for 12 weeks

> and then just suddenly stopping! The fast deterioration back into

> flab (and sluggishness and general feeling low) is just SO not

worth

> it.

>

> How have your results been so far? Are you happy with your

progress?

> Keep us posted with your progress for the next 2 weeks (and

> beyond!). Don't give up.

>

>

> PS - I've just ordered some sugar-free syrup from the Carb minders

> website; a friend used to order from them regularly and always got

> her stuff in around 3 days. Let me know and I'll dig out the url

> for you if you want it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's his book Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle. I bought it online and love it. It

breaks everything down to you just like BFL except that Tom is more like a

" natural bodybuilder " . He doesn't emphasize supplementation as much. In other

words, he sticks to the basics.

Bettina <bettinaac@...> wrote:

What is BFFM by T. Venuto? And what kinds of things do you eat? Idon't like all

that fake sugar and such either. Thanks, Bettina

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[Guest guest]

ah, I was going mention the " low fat/but loaded with sugar " bit, but

I forgot! :-)

Have you tried the diabetic chocolate range from Thortons? I don't

like most of it, but I do like the plain chocolate (sort of midway

between milk and dark). It's very good, better than normal

chocolate, and is sweetened with polyols. (? is that the right

word? ). I don't eat a lot of it, a bar can last me a while, but I

always have one lying around for when a really bad choc craving

strikes. I find it rich enough that a single square satisfies me,

so it doesn't break my diet. Another life saver are the fool-

yourself cookies (oats, banana, c/cheese, protein powder, small

amount of dried fruit, some other bits and bobs).

I am also an expat, from South Africa, living in London, and the

thing I whine about the most is the weather - finding it quite hard

to cope with only 2-3 months of iffy summer (IF we're lucky) and not

even much winter sunshine. In SA I led a very outdoorsy life, and

managed to keep my fat down (I gain weight in the blink of an eye)

by jogging with my dogs every morning and evening, and then doing my

weights workout inbetween. Now, I'm more likely to be found on the

sofa in front of the fire - which means my butt has spread to fit a

double-seated sofa! :-( With my previous levels of activity I still

had to watch my food, but not so much as I have to now. It's such a

bore - but I recently had 18 months off from exercise and healthy

eating (hence my heart-felt advice yesterday about not stopping

after 12 weeks) and it has been a scary reminder of where my body

would go without a structured fitness plan.

Do you run outside in the mornings, or at a gym? And your results

sound great! 2 inches all round is a lot for someone who is not in

bad shape! It must look good - well done! :-)

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I'm in the UK too - Greater London. Where are you?

> >

> > The UK actually has quite a good range of low fat stuff, and

it's

> > not too difficult to make up interesting meals. For example, on

> > Sundays we cook up a batch of food which we freeze in individual

> > portions, such as savoury mince (a complete meal as it consists

of

> > low fat mince with veg such as carrots and potatoes), chicken

> > casseroles, beef stews etc. These are all easy to freeze (in

fist-

> > size tuppawares we buy from Tescos!) and make weekday meal

planning

> > very easy. For my sweet tooth, I blend smooth very low fat

cottage

> > cheese with muller lite yoghurt and a small tin of tinned peaches

> in

> > their own juice (not syrup). I chuck in a few teaspoons of

> Splenda,

> > then blend again with a sachet of sugar-free jelly and voila! A

> > delicious, sweet, fruit mousse - which makes enough for 4 to 6

> small

> > bowls (1g fat per bowl of 85g), so I don't have to do it every

> > night. I normally have it as my last meal, when I prefer

something

> > light, and also it serves as my late-night tv snack. For a

change,

> > I also make meringues (using Splenda), served with fruit.

They're

> > great for a sweet tooth.

> >

> > You say you are not enjoying the process of eating healthy and

> can't

> > wait until 12 weeks is over... what are you going to do then?

Go

> > back to your previous eating habits? Wouldn't this completely

> > destroy all the hard work you've done so far? All I know is that

> it

> > was my bad eating habits that brought me to BFL - I can't see

the

> > point of only committing to 12 weeks of it, because I know my

body!

>

> > If I just stopped after 12 weeks and reverted to my old eating

> plan,

> > my body will happily (and quickly!) revert to its old shape!

Ugh!

> > You should try to find healthy foods that suit your tastebuds,

even

> > if they are not 100% " legal " because maintaining that over the

long

> > term would be a lot better than eating super-healthily for 12

weeks

> > and then just suddenly stopping! The fast deterioration back

into

> > flab (and sluggishness and general feeling low) is just SO not

> worth

> > it.

> >

> > How have your results been so far? Are you happy with your

> progress?

> > Keep us posted with your progress for the next 2 weeks (and

> > beyond!). Don't give up.

> >

> >

> > PS - I've just ordered some sugar-free syrup from the Carb

minders

> > website; a friend used to order from them regularly and always

got

> > her stuff in around 3 days. Let me know and I'll dig out the

url

> > for you if you want it.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am soooo happy for you. Keep up the great work.

Hugs!

Wanda

>

> Hi There,

>

> I have been doing my LL for a solid week now and I am feeling better.

I

> have made the decision that I want to feel good and LL is just one of

> the ways I can feel good ! Just thought I'd share and express my

> appreciation for this board and all of you.

>

> Pat, you have inpspired me yet once again to commit to feeling good !

> Thank you !

>

>

> Have a great day !

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , my friend!!!

I haven't seen a post from you in a long time, and I have been wondering how you

are. In fact, I have been on the verge of emailing you at your private address

for quite a number of weeks already. As soon as I saw your email address on

your unoped email (below) in my inbox, I got very excited as I remembered

immediately that freedomecat333...is YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!!! I am so very glad

to see you back!!! Why have you stayed away for so long??????

You're so very welcome, , I am so glad that I inspire you so much!!!

Knowing that makes me so very happy that you wouldn't believe it!!! I love to

inspire as many people as I can to do Life LIft breathing!!! That is what I

love to do the best!!!!

Guess what, !!! I had my first Life Lift breathing anniversary on Feb.

17, 2007, so I have been huffing and puffing the Life Lift way for over a year

already. I have not weiged myself in over a year, but I can tell you that when

I started Life LIft on Feb. 17, 2006 I weighed 200 lbs. and that my clothes are

so big on me now that two people could get into them. I am sure that I have

lost at least 50 or 60 lbs. already, but I am not going to weigh myself until

some time late next summer. Believe it or not, I actually enjoy the mystery of

not knowing how much I weigh. As I said, though, I can tell that I have lost A

LOT of weight already, just from the way I look when I see my reflection in the

mirror and by the way my clothes fit me now. I am so very, very, very happy,

, that you would not believe it. I am truly a happy camper thanks to our

sweet and loving Rashelle!!! Isn't Rashelle wonderful?????

So, my friend, it is so nice to have you back with all of us. We have really

and truly missed you, sweetheart!!! Just keep hanging in there, , and I

know that you will eventually be successful with your Life Lift breathing!!!!

Between Life Lift breathing and my posts of inspiration and encouragement, how

could your Life Lift future be otherwise!!!! And then there is OUR WONDERFUL,

FANTASTIC, SUPER DUPER RASHELLE HAINES!!!!

Love always,

Pat

Hi There

Hi There,

I have been doing my LL for a solid week now and I am feeling better. I

have made the decision that I want to feel good and LL is just one of

the ways I can feel good ! Just thought I'd share and express my

appreciation for this board and all of you.

Pat, you have inpspired me yet once again to commit to feeling good !

Thank you !

Have a great day !

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