RE: Foot Fungus Prevention.

[Guest guest]

Query:

Preamble: Ok YES this could be considered a rather odd topic and I did try to

google first AND I would highly suggest that no one does use the word " urine and

shower " in a google search, just in passing and for good reason. Yikes.

I was informed one day many years ago (name left out to protect the innocent ex

Brit military type ) that one should urinate on ones feet while showering. Yes,

I know it does seem an odd question but here is what got me thinking ... I did

read somewhere in mens health magazine or soldier of fortune ... I can't exactly

recall, but it got me pondering that the salinity and the PH of urine actually

could discourage fungal growth ... so it does make for some logical rationalle

and in this recent artical it stated statistically over 80% of people actually

do urinate in a shower .... well me being a the conformist I of course, well, no

picture painting intended NOR POLL is suggested, thank you one and all in

advance.

Any thoughts on this is it myth or could it have some science behind it ? The

peviso being if one does not have some type form of UTI to begin with and urine

is sterile in most cases. Some topical ointments have UREA in them and Birth

Control pills are made from pregnant mares urine from horses, just one of those

things that just popped into my head, and most sincere apologies in advance to

the sensitive types.

I am aware of the current medical treatments for foot fungus .... so thanks.

cheers

signed the Moose " Person " to be politically correct to DONN et All.

[Guest guest]

Wilf,

That particular rumor has been around for a bit. There is some truth to it,

but not much. Concentrated urea has been used as a treatment for tinea pedis

at times in the past, but straight, fresh urine is probably not sufficient

to prevent or cure fungal infection. Somewhere in my library I have a raft

of papers on the beneficial uses of both human and animal urine, but I'm at

the Texas conference and can't pull that up at the moment. For for now try

searching with keywords UREA, TINEA and PEDIS. Should provide something

worth reading. You could also Google MEDICINAL URINE for some interesting

(if unappetizing) returns.

Cheers!

Donn

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wilf Mackie

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:28 AM

Subject: Re: Foot Fungus Prevention.

Query:

Preamble: Ok YES this could be considered a rather odd topic and I did try

to google first AND I would highly suggest that no one does use the word

" urine and shower " in a google search, just in passing and for good reason.

Yikes.

I was informed one day many years ago (name left out to protect the innocent

ex Brit military type ) that one should urinate on ones feet while

showering. Yes, I know it does seem an odd question but here is what got me

thinking ... I did read somewhere in mens health magazine or soldier of

fortune ... I can't exactly recall, but it got me pondering that the

salinity and the PH of urine actually could discourage fungal growth ... so

it does make for some logical rationalle and in this recent artical it

stated statistically over 80% of people actually do urinate in a shower ....

well me being a the conformist I of course, well, no picture painting

intended NOR POLL is suggested, thank you one and all in advance.

Any thoughts on this is it myth or could it have some science behind it ?

The peviso being if one does not have some type form of UTI to begin with

and urine is sterile in most cases. Some topical ointments have UREA in them

and Birth Control pills are made from pregnant mares urine from horses, just

one of those things that just popped into my head, and most sincere

apologies in advance to the sensitive types.

I am aware of the current medical treatments for foot fungus .... so thanks.

cheers

signed the Moose " Person " to be politically correct to DONN et All.

[Guest guest]

Seems dilution and brevity would negate the effect of pH. It's sterile, but it

doesn't sterilize.

 

I dispensed miconazole cream (packaged for vaginal candida) to all of my fungal

foot pts. I got strange looks from all of them but I never had one return. The

preparations for feet just never seemed to work as well.

From: Wilf Mackie <w.mackie@...>

Subject: Re: Foot Fungus Prevention.

Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 10:28 AM

Query:

Preamble: Ok YES this could be considered a rather odd topic and I did try to

google first AND I would highly suggest that no one does use the word " urine and

shower " in a google search, just in passing and for good reason. Yikes.

I was informed one day many years ago (name left out to protect the innocent ex

Brit military type ) that one should urinate on ones feet while showering. Yes,

I know it does seem an odd question but here is what got me thinking ... I did

read somewhere in mens health magazine or soldier of fortune ... I can't exactly

recall, but it got me pondering that the salinity and the PH of urine actually

could discourage fungal growth ... so it does make for some logical rationalle

and in this recent artical it stated statistically over 80% of people actually

do urinate in a shower .... well me being a the conformist I of course, well, no

picture painting intended NOR POLL is suggested, thank you one and all in

advance.

Any thoughts on this is it myth or could it have some science behind it ? The

peviso being if one does not have some type form of UTI to begin with and urine

is sterile in most cases. Some topical ointments have UREA in them and Birth

Control pills are made from pregnant mares urine from horses, just one of those

things that just popped into my head, and most sincere apologies in advance to

the sensitive types.

I am aware of the current medical treatments for foot fungus .... so thanks.

cheers

signed the Moose " Person " to be politically correct to DONN et All.

[Guest guest]

>

> From: Wilf Mackie <w.mackie@...>

> Subject: Re: Foot Fungus Prevention.

>

> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 10:28 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Query:

>

> Preamble: Ok YES this could be considered a rather odd topic and I

did try to google first AND I would highly suggest that no one does

use the word " urine and shower " in a google search, just in passing

and for good reason. Yikes.

>

> I was informed one day many years ago (name left out to protect the

innocent ex Brit military type ) that one should urinate on ones feet

while showering. Yes, I know it does seem an odd question but here is

what got me thinking ... I did read somewhere in mens health magazine

or soldier of fortune ... I can't exactly recall, but it got me

pondering that the salinity and the PH of urine actually could

discourage fungal growth ... so it does make for some logical

rationalle and in this recent artical it stated statistically over 80%

of people actually do urinate in a shower .... well me being a the

conformist I of course, well, no picture painting intended NOR POLL is

suggested, thank you one and all in advance.

>

> Any thoughts on this is it myth or could it have some science behind

it ? The peviso being if one does not have some type form of UTI to

begin with and urine is sterile in most cases. Some topical ointments

have UREA in them and Birth Control pills are made from pregnant mares

urine from horses, just one of those things that just popped into my

head, and most sincere apologies in advance to the sensitive types.

>

> I am aware of the current medical treatments for foot fungus .... so

thanks.

>

> cheers

> signed the Moose " Person " to be politically correct to DONN et All.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks all:

The vast majority of my clientele on woodland fires and oilpatch would be of the

male gender and seldom would I have miconazole cream available therefore the

vinegar solution (no pun intended) would also fit nicely into the cultural

homeopathic medicine treatments.

Thanks for the suggestion of a government grant Mr. and your added

confessions ;>) .... additional trivia: in the WW1 tannic acid from tea was used

for burns, but please apply when cold. I have used this on sojourns into

the mountains when packing of medical kit (sans sherpas) and where was weight

consideration and when first degree burns were encountered, quite soothing in

fact.

cheers

Wilf

Re: Foot Fungus Prevention.

---

Another thing I have found to work very well is 2 parts vinegar to 1

part water. This works really well with some of our guys who don't

wear shoes in their native land. It is more of a homeopathic type

treatment, but tends to work better than the prepackaged stuff.

Hope this helps.

.

[Guest guest]

Wilf, you may stop peeing on your feet now. It doesn't work.

I cornered one of our dermatology people the other day about this (it's

a teaching hospital, but nary a podiatrist to be found), and this is

what he said: urea is the primary useful ingredient from urine that is

used to treat " moccasin " tinea pedis. It's used in a 40% cream IN

CONJUNCTION WITH an anti-fungal.

The urea itself is not an anti-fungal, even in that concentration. It

denatures proteins and softens the scaly skin so that the anti-fungal

can be absorbed and kill the bugs.

So much for the derm. Now consider routine lab results. With a 24 hour

urine collection, the amount of urea found is typically about 70-80

mg/dl. As you can see, the concentration of urea in human urine isn't

anywhere near the 40% required for softening the scaly skin, it's lack

of anti-fungal properties aside.

Far be it from me to tell you that you can't piss on your toes if you

want, but it's not going to get rid of that itching. <g>

LT

Wilf Mackie wrote:

> Query:

>

> Preamble: Ok YES this could be considered a rather odd topic and I

> did try to google first AND I would highly suggest that no one does

> use the word " urine and shower " in a google search, just in passing

> and for good reason. Yikes.

>

> I was informed one day many years ago (name left out to protect the

> innocent ex Brit military type ) that one should urinate on ones feet

> while showering. Yes, I know it does seem an odd question but here is

> what got me thinking ... I did read somewhere in mens health magazine

> or soldier of fortune ... I can't exactly recall, but it got me

> pondering that the salinity and the PH of urine actually could

> discourage fungal growth ... so it does make for some logical

> rationalle and in this recent artical it stated statistically over

> 80% of people actually do urinate in a shower .... well me being a

> the conformist I of course, well, no picture painting intended NOR

> POLL is suggested, thank you one and all in advance.

>

> Any thoughts on this is it myth or could it have some science behind

> it ? The peviso being if one does not have some type form of UTI to

> begin with and urine is sterile in most cases. Some topical ointments

> have UREA in them and Birth Control pills are made from pregnant

> mares urine from horses, just one of those things that just popped

> into my head, and most sincere apologies in advance to the sensitive

> types.

>

> I am aware of the current medical treatments for foot fungus .... so

> thanks.

>

> cheers signed the Moose " Person " to be politically correct to DONN et

> All.

[Guest guest]

maybe Wilf enjoys peeing on his toes.....

Crosby

KNR HSEC

Health Specialist

BHPBilliton

Rd, Kwinana, 6167, Australia

Mailto james.crosby@...

Internet http://www.bhpbilliton.com

<http://www.bhpbilliton.com/>

Phone +61 08 94390862

Mobile

Fax +61 08 94390146

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Larry Torrey

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 10:18

Subject: Re: Foot Fungus Prevention.

Wilf, you may stop peeing on your feet now. It doesn't work.

I cornered one of our dermatology people the other day about this (it's

a teaching hospital, but nary a podiatrist to be found), and this is

what he said: urea is the primary useful ingredient from urine that is

used to treat " moccasin " tinea pedis. It's used in a 40% cream IN

CONJUNCTION WITH an anti-fungal.

The urea itself is not an anti-fungal, even in that concentration. It

denatures proteins and softens the scaly skin so that the anti-fungal

can be absorbed and kill the bugs.

So much for the derm. Now consider routine lab results. With a 24 hour

urine collection, the amount of urea found is typically about 70-80

mg/dl. As you can see, the concentration of urea in human urine isn't

anywhere near the 40% required for softening the scaly skin, it's lack

of anti-fungal properties aside.

Far be it from me to tell you that you can't piss on your toes if you

want, but it's not going to get rid of that itching. <g>

LT

Wilf Mackie wrote:

> Query:

>

> Preamble: Ok YES this could be considered a rather odd topic and I

> did try to google first AND I would highly suggest that no one does

> use the word " urine and shower " in a google search, just in passing

> and for good reason. Yikes.

>

> I was informed one day many years ago (name left out to protect the

> innocent ex Brit military type ) that one should urinate on ones feet

> while showering. Yes, I know it does seem an odd question but here is

> what got me thinking ... I did read somewhere in mens health magazine

> or soldier of fortune ... I can't exactly recall, but it got me

> pondering that the salinity and the PH of urine actually could

> discourage fungal growth ... so it does make for some logical

> rationalle and in this recent artical it stated statistically over

> 80% of people actually do urinate in a shower .... well me being a

> the conformist I of course, well, no picture painting intended NOR

> POLL is suggested, thank you one and all in advance.

>

> Any thoughts on this is it myth or could it have some science behind

> it ? The peviso being if one does not have some type form of UTI to

> begin with and urine is sterile in most cases. Some topical ointments

> have UREA in them and Birth Control pills are made from pregnant

> mares urine from horses, just one of those things that just popped

> into my head, and most sincere apologies in advance to the sensitive

> types.

>

> I am aware of the current medical treatments for foot fungus .... so

> thanks.

>

> cheers signed the Moose " Person " to be politically correct to DONN et

> All.

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[Guest guest]

No just trying to fit in with the statistics ... I am a just a conformist type

of fellow.

Now regretting my musings ...

cheers

Wilf

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