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indeed .

 

rule one-IT,never heard of it.

one good power surge,criminal alteration or failed storage device and you are

snookered(behind the eight ball for our American Friends)

 

no need for a quill,a decent fountain shall suffice.

copperplate not required-just legible with any alteration crossed through once

and initialled.

back in the mists of time when a young student nurse,a wise old tutor told me

the first two rules.

she also suggested that I adopt ish police tactics and get corroboration

when a matter was serious.

in Scots law you need a witness.

cops go about in twos.

hence get it signed by a witness or better still one of higher rank.

 

hence rule 5-always communicate-all over the place preferably(within ethical

boundaries of course).

kick it up to topside.

get advice(as done here),and sign everything-time and date stamp as well.

 

 

rule 2-,I think if its legible its OK.

spell check first on those computer thingies -then write down.

or carry a small dictionary and thesaurus.

 

 

rule 3-yes ,the blame game.

great fun for all,except the person left holding the recordable injury.

see rule one-tell everyone,and then its diluted.

still too many police HSE,not enough Coach/mentor ones.

but with shyster lawers still plying their loathsome trade,one can see why HSE

are reluctant to stop covering arse by finding a root cause that is AKA blame.

 

rule 4-see three above.

but keep a good journal.

perchance one of those digital voice recorders.

get it corroberated by others-get other documents to list your facts.

remember dragnet-just the facts mam!

and then like shakespear in juliues caeser,you can say

 

there is no terror in your threats

for I am armed so strong in honesty

that they pass by me as the idle wind

which i respect not.

 

Finaly in this world of extended roles,ie doing things that we might get jailed

for,but we do cos we have been trained and are cheaper than docs(did I say that

out loud again?)

 

rule six.

before initiating a course of action-stop and think.

think about you in a dock.

before either a group of peers in a professional hearing or a selection of the

general public(perhaps in a country without your home ones legal system and

safeguards),

and before you is a lawer in a suit that would cost several months of your

salary.

you tell them all what you did and why.

does it make sense?

is it plausable?

if not-do not do it.

Fraser  

 

 

 

 

 

> Dear ,

>

> Thank you for your reply which is helpful to see what you would want

> in treatment continuation notes.

>

> A/ 'Wound Toilet' is the cleaning of the wound area prior to

> applying the dry dressing, main purpose for a Venous Ulcer is to

> keep it moist and clean.

>

> B/ Venous Ulcers are most frequently located on the lateral aspect

> of the ankle, as a result of the mechanism causing them.

>

> C/ The cause is age - venous wear & tear - varicose veins - gravity,

> as a gradual process.

>

> D/ Size of ulcer will take time to change once treatment starts with

> healing it generally gets bigger first - in ideal circumstances a

> specialised dressing is done once a week - in remote location with

> circumstances of work bd is OK - can take a month to change - so

> daily there is no need for measurements.

>

> E/ Venous ulcers would rarely be bilateral - the oedema is venous

> fluid under pressure from gravity so stays in lower region of ankle

> around the laterall malleous - part of the treatment is periods of

> foot elevation during the day and at night - while the principle

> healing comes from compression of the venous system - tubi-grip -

> reinforcing natural venous return, which will encourage a reduction

> in the oedema.

>

> F/ As this is a long term treatment then bed rest and restricted

> duties for a cook are excluded and as this is not a debilitating

> problem, when treated, so full duty is OK.

>

> It is an interesting condition and as mentioned the treatment is

> long term and quite specific unless infection gets in then anti-

> biotics are included, sometimes NSAIDs for pain from exposed nerve

> endings.

>

> The points you raised are appreciated but being now familar with the

> situation would you require that degree of information, twice daily,

> to have an appreciation of the progress, or could you be comfortable

> with - ' Varicose Ulcer - clean - moist', treatment, 'Wound toilet -

> dressing - tubigrip', considering that usually you would have a

> verbal hand over to your relief as well.

>

> There has been a discussion re this and we are interested in other

> points of veiw.

>

> Brgds

>

> P.

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" If in doubt, don't " thanks Carl

> Dear ,

>

> Thank you for your reply which is helpful to see what you would want

> in treatment continuation notes.

>

> A/ 'Wound Toilet' is the cleaning of the wound area prior to

> applying the dry dressing, main purpose for a Venous Ulcer is to

> keep it moist and clean.

>

> B/ Venous Ulcers are most frequently located on the lateral aspect

> of the ankle, as a result of the mechanism causing them.

>

> C/ The cause is age - venous wear & tear - varicose veins - gravity,

> as a gradual process.

>

> D/ Size of ulcer will take time to change once treatment starts with

> healing it generally gets bigger first - in ideal circumstances a

> specialised dressing is done once a week - in remote location with

> circumstances of work bd is OK - can take a month to change - so

> daily there is no need for measurements.

>

> E/ Venous ulcers would rarely be bilateral - the oedema is venous

> fluid under pressure from gravity so stays in lower region of ankle

> around the laterall malleous - part of the treatment is periods of

> foot elevation during the day and at night - while the principle

> healing comes from compression of the venous system - tubi-grip -

> reinforcing natural venous return, which will encourage a reduction

> in the oedema.

>

> F/ As this is a long term treatment then bed rest and restricted

> duties for a cook are excluded and as this is not a debilitating

> problem, when treated, so full duty is OK.

>

> It is an interesting condition and as mentioned the treatment is

> long term and quite specific unless infection gets in then anti-

> biotics are included, sometimes NSAIDs for pain from exposed nerve

> endings.

>

> The points you raised are appreciated but being now familar with the

> situation would you require that degree of information, twice daily,

> to have an appreciation of the progress, or could you be comfortable

> with - ' Varicose Ulcer - clean - moist', treatment, 'Wound toilet -

> dressing - tubigrip', considering that usually you would have a

> verbal hand over to your relief as well.

>

> There has been a discussion re this and we are interested in other

> points of veiw.

>

> Brgds

>

> P.

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