Re: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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Morning Might be a silly question, but how did the new member get through the

medical...... Or am I just being dense... I have just woke up!! RegardsrattyTo:

From: ecp2211@...

Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:39:17 +0000

Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

Hi all

Pick your brains if I may.

Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in a

high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around it

(as it were)?

cheers

Pond Life

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Not a silly question, your not being dense - that is a question I asked myself.

Can't really go into too much detail as I am bringing this up tomorrow at a

meeting.

I will review when I see the patient.

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> Morning Might be a silly question, but how did the new member get through the

medical...... Or am I just being dense... I have just woke up!! RegardsrattyTo:

> From: ecp2211@...

> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:39:17 +0000

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platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

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[Guest guest]

HI Mike

We have all probably come across an individual who was grossly overweight.  I

had a patient that weigh in at 325 pounds - luckily he was self ambulatory with

his dislocated shoulder. 

About the only thing that you can do is verbablly (or better yet placed in

writing) your concerns for this individuals health and risk factors and attempt

to have him remove from the rig/vessel.  He may have passed his medical

physical but clearly their were unlying issues that were not probably address. 

In the end, he is on board and he is now your problem unless you can get him

off.  Preventive medicine is a lot easier to deal with than an actual

emergency.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Dennis

From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

 

Hi all

Pick your brains if I may.

Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in a

high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around it

(as it were)?

cheers

Pond Life

[Guest guest]

Jumping the gun here guys. Firstly what is his medical condition?

Obviously it's not on the restricted list, or he wouldn't be there.

Sent by my very smart cat!

On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Dennis Hunt <dennis.hunt@...> wrote:

> HI Mike

> We have all probably come across an individual who was grossly overweight. I

had a patient that weigh in at 325 pounds - luckily he was self ambulatory with

his dislocated shoulder.

> About the only thing that you can do is verbablly (or better yet placed in

writing) your concerns for this individuals health and risk factors and attempt

to have him remove from the rig/vessel. He may have passed his medical physical

but clearly their were unlying issues that were not probably address. In the

end, he is on board and he is now your problem unless you can get him off.

Preventive medicine is a lot easier to deal with than an actual emergency.

> Hope this helps.

> Cheers

> Dennis

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> From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> Hi all

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> Pick your brains if I may.

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> Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

>

> New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in a

high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

>

> Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

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> Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around it

(as it were)?

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> cheers

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> Pond Life

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[Guest guest]

Not able to say at present. I don't want to cross the lines of patient being

remotely identifiable. But can say its now under control. Sorry to be cryptic.

Hope you understand.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Feb 2012, at 14:40, Bear <tetonbearuk@...> wrote:

> Jumping the gun here guys. Firstly what is his medical condition?

> Obviously it's not on the restricted list, or he wouldn't be there.

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> Sent by my very smart cat!

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> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Dennis Hunt <dennis.hunt@...> wrote:

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> > HI Mike

> > We have all probably come across an individual who was grossly overweight. I

had a patient that weigh in at 325 pounds - luckily he was self ambulatory with

his dislocated shoulder.

> > About the only thing that you can do is verbablly (or better yet placed in

writing) your concerns for this individuals health and risk factors and attempt

to have him remove from the rig/vessel. He may have passed his medical physical

but clearly their were unlying issues that were not probably address. In the

end, he is on board and he is now your problem unless you can get him off.

Preventive medicine is a lot easier to deal with than an actual emergency.

> > Hope this helps.

> > Cheers

> > Dennis

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> > From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> > Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> > Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> > Hi all

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> > Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

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> > New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in

a high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

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> > Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

> >

> > Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around

it (as it were)?

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > Pond Life

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> >

[Guest guest]

I've had some very big guys with an interesting pmh on board rigs/vessels

of whom I have no idea how they've got a medical... Personally I would be

thinking more along the lines of shifting him by crane and man riding

regulations. I like my back!!

On 22 Feb 2012, at 14:21, Bear <tetonbearuk@...> wrote:

Jumping the gun here guys. Firstly what is his medical condition?

Obviously it's not on the restricted list, or he wouldn't be there.

Sent by my very smart cat!

On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Dennis Hunt <dennis.hunt@...> wrote:

> HI Mike

> We have all probably come across an individual who was grossly

overweight. I had a patient that weigh in at 325 pounds - luckily he was

self ambulatory with his dislocated shoulder.

> About the only thing that you can do is verbablly (or better yet placed

in writing) your concerns for this individuals health and risk factors and

attempt to have him remove from the rig/vessel. He may have passed his

medical physical but clearly their were unlying issues that were not

probably address. In the end, he is on board and he is now your problem

unless you can get him off. Preventive medicine is a lot easier to deal

with than an actual emergency.

> Hope this helps.

> Cheers

> Dennis

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> From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> Hi all

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> Pick your brains if I may.

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> Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

>

> New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed

in a high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

>

> Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level

f platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't

man enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is

either 136kg (http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg (

http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which

information you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

>

> Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got

around it (as it were)?

>

> cheers

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> Pond Life

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[Guest guest]

Mike,

 

From the sound of the size of this guy,  he may be slightly more identifiable

than the norm !  As for Bear's comment,  how many personnel have you come

across that how shall we say,  were " economical with the actualite " when have

medicals carried out ?  ( By the way,  your cat writes beautifully ).  Quite

a number in my experience.  I recently had a chap on board,  who had suffered

a stroke,  but without having another offshore medical after this episode, 

came back to work ???

 

Regards to one and all,

 

Phil

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> > From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> > Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> > Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> > Hi all

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> > Pick your brains if I may.

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> > Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

> >

> > New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in

a high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

> >

> > Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

> >

> > Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around

it (as it were)?

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > Pond Life

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's frightening!

Sent by my very smart cat!

On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Philip AD <aitdav@...> wrote:

> Mike,

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> From the sound of the size of this guy, he may be slightly more identifiable

than the norm ! As for Bear's comment, how many personnel have you come across

that how shall we say, were " economical with the actualite " when have

medicals carried out ? ( By the way, your cat writes beautifully ). Quite a

number in my experience. I recently had a chap on board, who had suffered a

stroke, but without having another offshore medical after this episode, came

back to work ???

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> Regards to one and all,

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> Phil

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> > > From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> > > Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> > > Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> > > Hi all

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> > > Pick your brains if I may.

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> > > Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

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> > > New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed

in a high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

> > >

> > > Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level

f platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

> > >

> > > Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around

it (as it were)?

> > >

> > > cheers

> > >

> > > Pond Life

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Thanks so much for your replies - both on the forum and personal. It has helped

a lot.

Things are sorted for the time being at least.

Rick assessment performed with good medical safety netting.

Health promotion programme put into place for all the crew - not just this chap.

Daily health checks for any persons wishing them for specific area of concern -

which this gentleman has taken up.

Our high fat, stodgy rich menu has been altered

So all in all this should be really good for the whole of the platform / ships

company

The stretcher issue has been adapted to accommodate persons over 135kg within

specific permits in place

thanks again to all who contributed to this

Pond lIfe

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> From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> Hi all

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> Pick your brains if I may.

>

> Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

>

> New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in a

high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

>

> Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

>

> Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around it

(as it were)?

>

> cheers

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> Pond Life

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mike

Forgive me if I'm teaching you and all the others on this list to suck eggs, but

just had a very interesting presentation on bariatrics and the main thing that

sticks in my memory is do not lie bariatric patients flat, even on a stretcher,

as you will help kill them! Weight of the stomach squashes the diaphragm which

squashes the lungs etc. If you can, transport in the recovery position.

Again, apologies if I'm teaching people to suck eggs.

Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> Hi all

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> Pick your brains if I may.

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> Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

>

> New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in

a high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

>

> Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

>

> Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around

it (as it were)?

>

> cheers

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> Pond Life

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[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

For a bariatric stretcher with a SWL of 300kgs try the SLIX100XL stretcher can

be used for ropework as well.

Sold by abtechsafety.com and a couple other suppliers.

 

Best wishes

 

Russ

 

Wells RODP

Mobile: 07766042189.

 

From: Mike <mike@...>

Subject: Re: Bariatric stretcher/patient

Date: Friday, 24 February, 2012, 11:21

 

Hi all,

Thanks so much for your replies - both on the forum and personal. It has helped

a lot.

Things are sorted for the time being at least.

Rick assessment performed with good medical safety netting.

Health promotion programme put into place for all the crew - not just this chap.

Daily health checks for any persons wishing them for specific area of concern -

which this gentleman has taken up.

Our high fat, stodgy rich menu has been altered

So all in all this should be really good for the whole of the platform / ships

company

The stretcher issue has been adapted to accommodate persons over 135kg within

specific permits in place

thanks again to all who contributed to this

Pond lIfe

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> From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> Hi all

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> Pick your brains if I may.

>

> Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a rig.

>

> New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have placed in a

high risk stratification category due to underlying medical condition.

>

> Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or one level f

platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and Neil on isn't man

enough for the job. Although the weight limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg

(http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/) or 181kg

(http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending on which information

you read - it's the circumference which is an issue.

>

> Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you got around it

(as it were)?

>

> cheers

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> Pond Life

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[Guest guest]

Cheers Russ

On 24 Feb 2012, at 14:32, Wells wrote:

> Dear All,

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> For a bariatric stretcher with a SWL of 300kgs try the SLIX100XL

> stretcher can be used for ropework as well.

> Sold by abtechsafety.com and a couple other suppliers.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Russ

>

>

> Wells RODP

> Mobile: 07766042189.

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> From: Mike <mike@...>

> Subject: Re: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> Date: Friday, 24 February, 2012, 11:21

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> Hi all,

> Thanks so much for your replies - both on the forum and personal. It

> has helped a lot.

>

> Things are sorted for the time being at least.

>

> Rick assessment performed with good medical safety netting.

>

> Health promotion programme put into place for all the crew - not

> just this chap.

>

> Daily health checks for any persons wishing them for specific area

> of concern - which this gentleman has taken up.

>

> Our high fat, stodgy rich menu has been altered

>

> So all in all this should be really good for the whole of the

> platform / ships company

>

> The stretcher issue has been adapted to accommodate persons over

> 135kg within specific permits in place

>

> thanks again to all who contributed to this

>

> Pond lIfe

>

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> > From: Mike <ecp2211@...>

> > Subject: Bariatric stretcher/patient

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> > Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 6:39 AM

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> > Hi all

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> > Pick your brains if I may.

> >

> > Vessel sailing in a few day for a 2 week project on a supporting a

> rig.

> >

> > New member of the rig team arrived which exceeds 140kg and I have

> placed in a high risk stratification category due to underlying

> medical condition.

> >

> > Trying to plan a potential evac plan from vessel to platform or

> one level f platform to helideck I realise that my Paraguard and

> Neil on isn't man enough for the job. Although the weight

> limit for the Paraguard is either 136kg (http://www.paraguardstretcher.com/

> ) or 181kg (http://www.tepi.co/userfiles/camilla%20pdf.pdf)depending

> on which information you read - it's the circumference which is an

> issue.

> >

> > Have you come across this problem before and if so how have you

> got around it (as it were)?

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > Pond Life

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