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MISent from my iPhoneOn 27 Mar 2012, at 20:32, Divi Divi <divi_ore@...> wrote:

For 2% Lignocaine

Its 4.4 /kg weight.

So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mg

One 2.2 ml cartr contain 44 mg

So here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrg.

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hi, PLEASE NEED HELP FOR LA EQUATION. HOW TO CALCULATE DOSE REQUIRED FOR 20KG,OF 2% LIGNOCAINE WITH ADRENALINE

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So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:37:54 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...> Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012, 23:27 Subject: LA EQUATION I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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hello everyone. please can anyone make it clear to me that what exactly is the correct dose of lignocaine....?according to BNF and pastest websit its 3mg/kg (without adrenaline)...so is it 4.4mg/kd or 3mg/kg..what should we follow?thanxAsima

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its 4.4mg/kg for plain lignocaine and 7mg/kg for lignocaine with adrenalin From: Asima Zaheer <asimazaheer@...> " " < > Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

hello everyone. please can anyone make it clear to me that what exactly is the correct dose of lignocaine....?according to BNF and pastest websit its 3mg/kg (without adrenaline)...so is it 4.4mg/kd or 3mg/kg..what should we follow?thanxAsima

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Hi hibaIn scully 6th edition p.52 is written 300 mg = 7 cartridges lidocaine without adrenaline is the max.dose for an AVERAGE ADULT .(IT MEANS 70kg person not 125 kg ),and 500mg =11 cartridges lidoacaine with adrenaline is the max.dose for again an AVERAGE ADULT.But i do remember that Ebtissam said that the max.dose is regardless of the body weight,which means still 7 and 11 ,if she can provide a reference would be great ,because i couldn't find anything like it. hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 13:45 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>

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Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...>

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I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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Well how do u calculated for 20kg!!? I follow yours and calculate it for 125kgSent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:27:01 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi hibaIn scully 6th edition p.52 is written 300 mg = 7 cartridges lidocaine without adrenaline is the max.dose for an AVERAGE ADULT .(IT MEANS 70kg person not 125 kg ),and 500mg =11 cartridges lidoacaine with adrenaline is the max.dose for again an AVERAGE ADULT.But i do remember that Ebtissam said that the max.dose is regardless of the body weight,which means still 7 and 11 ,if she can provide a reference would be great ,because i couldn't find anything like it. hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 13:45 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:37:54 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...> Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012, 23:27 Subject: LA EQUATION I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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well-for 20 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88mg/44mg = 2 cartrgridges- for 125 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 125 kg 4.4*125 = 550 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 550mg/44mg = 12.5 cartrgridges more opinions are welcomeAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 14:48 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

Well how do u calculated for 20kg!!? I follow yours and calculate it for 125kgSent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>

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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:27:01 +0100 (BST) < >Reply

Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

Hi hibaIn scully 6th edition p.52 is written 300 mg = 7 cartridges lidocaine without adrenaline is the max.dose for an AVERAGE ADULT .(IT MEANS 70kg person not 125 kg ),and 500mg =11 cartridges lidoacaine with adrenaline is the max.dose for again an AVERAGE ADULT.But i do remember that Ebtissam said that the max.dose is regardless of the body weight,which means still 7 and 11 ,if she can provide a reference would be great ,because i couldn't find anything like it. hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 13:45 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:37:54 +0100 (BST) < >Reply

Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...>

Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012, 23:27 Subject: LA EQUATION

I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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yeh thank u and that's exactly what I did..then shall say 12 and a half according to your calculations or just fixed 7 cartridges and 11with vasoconstictor?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:02:18 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION well-for 20 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88mg/44mg = 2 cartrgridges- for 125 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 125 kg 4.4*125 = 550 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 550mg/44mg = 12.5 cartrgridges more opinions are welcomeAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 14:48 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Well how do u calculated for 20kg!!? I follow yours and calculate it for 125kgSent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:27:01 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi hibaIn scully 6th edition p.52 is written 300 mg = 7 cartridges lidocaine without adrenaline is the max.dose for an AVERAGE ADULT .(IT MEANS 70kg person not 125 kg ),and 500mg =11 cartridges lidoacaine with adrenaline is the max.dose for again an AVERAGE ADULT.But i do remember that Ebtissam said that the max.dose is regardless of the body weight,which means still 7 and 11 ,if she can provide a reference would be great ,because i couldn't find anything like it. hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 13:45 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:37:54 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...> Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012, 23:27 Subject: LA EQUATION I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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That's what i was talking about,in my opinion if the patient is up to 70kg the max.dose is fixed 7 cartridges and 11 with adrenaline,but if the patient is more than 70 kg you calculate it as we done it for the 125 kg patient(KG *4,4 mg)NOTE:this is regarding the max.dose Regard'sAyham Sbahi From:

"dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 15:59 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

yeh thank u and that's exactly what I did..then shall say 12 and a half according to your calculations or just fixed 7 cartridges and 11with vasoconstictor?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>

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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:02:18 +0100 (BST) < >Reply

Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

well-for 20 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88mg/44mg = 2 cartrgridges- for 125 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 125 kg 4.4*125 = 550 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 550mg/44mg = 12.5 cartrgridges more opinions are welcomeAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 14:48 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

Well how do u calculated for 20kg!!? I follow yours and calculate it for 125kgSent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>

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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:27:01 +0100 (BST) < >Reply

Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

Hi hibaIn scully 6th edition p.52 is written 300 mg = 7 cartridges lidocaine without adrenaline is the max.dose for an AVERAGE ADULT .(IT MEANS 70kg person not 125 kg ),and 500mg =11 cartridges lidoacaine with adrenaline is the max.dose for again an AVERAGE ADULT.But i do remember that Ebtissam said that the max.dose is regardless of the body weight,which means still 7 and 11 ,if she can provide a reference would be great ,because i couldn't find anything like it. hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 13:45 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:37:54 +0100 (BST) < >Reply

Subject: Re: LA EQUATION

Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...>

Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012, 23:27 Subject: LA EQUATION

I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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Ok..thamks for help.Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 16:30:43 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION That's what i was talking about,in my opinion if the patient is up to 70kg the max.dose is fixed 7 cartridges and 11 with adrenaline,but if the patient is more than 70 kg you calculate it as we done it for the 125 kg patient(KG *4,4 mg)NOTE:this is regarding the max.dose Regard'sAyham Sbahi From:"dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 15:59 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION yeh thank u and that's exactly what I did..then shall say 12 and a half according to your calculations or just fixed 7 cartridges and 11with vasoconstictor?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:02:18 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION well-for 20 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88mg/44mg = 2 cartrgridges- for 125 kg patient is:The dose For 2% Lignocaine plainis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 125 kg 4.4*125 = 550 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 550mg/44mg = 12.5 cartrgridges more opinions are welcomeAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 14:48 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Well how do u calculated for 20kg!!? I follow yours and calculate it for 125kgSent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:27:01 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi hibaIn scully 6th edition p.52 is written 300 mg = 7 cartridges lidocaine without adrenaline is the max.dose for an AVERAGE ADULT .(IT MEANS 70kg person not 125 kg ),and 500mg =11 cartridges lidoacaine with adrenaline is the max.dose for again an AVERAGE ADULT.But i do remember that Ebtissam said that the max.dose is regardless of the body weight,which means still 7 and 11 ,if she can provide a reference would be great ,because i couldn't find anything like it. hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Sunday, 8 April 2012, 13:45 Subject: Re: LA EQUATION So for 125kg is it 12 cartridges according to this?Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Ayham Sbahi <ayhamsbahi@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:37:54 +0100 (BST) < >Reply Subject: Re: LA EQUATION Hi MaheThe dose For 2% Lignocaineis 4.4 /kg weight.So for 20 kg 4.4*20 = 88 mgOne 2.2 ml cartridge contains 44 mgSo here . It will be 88/44 = 2 cartrgridges. Hope it helpsAyham Sbahi From: mahejabin <drmahejabin@...> Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012, 23:27 Subject: LA EQUATION I know it's a repeat question but it's my humble request. please any one explain me how to calculate max. dose required for perticular body weight. Please.................

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