Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Depends on exactly what you were taking at the time. Herbs, etc included. Read my article on the evolution of PA in our files. May your pressure be low! Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc. (sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 In message <47A0D497.00004A.03264@LAPTOP> you wrote: > Hello > I am new with making kombucha Tee and I am so nervous that I do something > wrong with it > I just notice that my kombucha is getting dark spots on it but is is not on > top but under side that is laying in the tee.. > and since I am so nervous about all of this I like to know also if some one > would like to give me a extra scoby one please Hello Hanni! Spots and messy bits on the underside, side and sometimes on the top of scobys are completely normal, as long as they are not fuzzy (mold). You should see my scobys, they look like untidy old men ... ;-) But, they produce most excellent Kombucha :-). So, as long as there is no fuzziness, there is nothing to worry about. Enjoy your brewing and try not to worry! Margret:-) UK -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ God keeps His eye upon you as you come and go, and always guards you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 > > Hello > I am new with making kombucha Tee and I am so nervous that I do something wrong with it > I just notice that my kombucha is getting dark spots > Thank you all for all the help, and all the links you send it has helps me a > lot already > Have a nice Day > Hanni Hanni, I'm certainly not an old hand at this (finished 2nd brew) and that's why I thought I'd write to you....RELAX! The spots are what I guessed are the yeasty thingys. Mine formed this time on the top and then disappeared. I give it a good sniff and pamper it by checking on it each day and ...... ok....I've been talking to it. It's working. I just make sure I don't open the compost pot near my KT, in fact I keep my KT in the dining room so it isn't disturbed aside from my daily chats. These fermenting things are strange but you've got to remember they have a life force of their own. And if they are " manna " you must remember that " manna " roughly translates " WHAT IS IT? " I had a million questions at first too, but just like Millie said, I'd be able to do it blindfolded! To my utter amazement even again today, was a baby! Like others have said, if it smells bad and has green mold growing then toss it. Other than that, let it be. HTH Diane I posted my very first baby on my blog and she's a beaut! www.peacefulacres.wordpress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hello ,I have been sugar free for going on 4 years now. At first I used dates as I was weaning myself off of the addiction to the taste of sugar. It didn't take me long to switch over to Stevia. In my mind, knowing how bad sugar was making me feel, giving up the taste was pretty easy. Some people learn to eat everything unsweetened, so getting to have the sweetness of Stevia vs. getting NO sweetness was a pretty easy trade off for me. Now I've been using Stevia for so long that anything with regular sugar is too sweet.Regarding Splenda, I would compare its side effects with the side effects reported for Stevia.Here is a Google Search for Splenda Side Effects:http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=splenda+side+effects & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8Here is a Google Search for Stevia Side Effects:http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=stevia+side+effects & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8I would encourage you to do the best that you can to try to reduce the amount of sweetener you need. Your body will adapt.I almost never eat fruits anymore, but when I do, I am eating berries in a Green Smoothie. The berries aren't very sweet, so if the greens are on the bitter side, I will use Stevia - that happens less than once a week. Other than that, the only other time I use stevia is in my one cup of organic coffee per day (1/3 caffeine, 2/3 swiss water processed decaf). I've got that down to 8 drops of liquid Stevia if hot brewed, and 6 drops if cold brewed.Stevia has an aftertaste that some people can't get past. For me, it was Stevia or nothing - I chose to deal with the aftertaste (which never was very bad for me). Personally I would never consume a chemical version of sugar.I can't have bananas anymore, but for me, a mango and banana smoothie would be PLENTY sweet without the addition of any other sweeteners. Aside from sweetening with bananas, I found dates to be the next healthiest sweetener. They are high in natural sugars, but at least they come along with a decent dose of fiber (which helps slow down the insulin response).I hope this is helpful! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, jadacaden@... wrote: Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I am so happy and IMPRESSED! The mango smoothie was plenty sweet without adding any additional sweeteners. This smoothie is amazing and I am beyond surprised that for the 1st time in 4 months, I was able to enjoy something healthy and it settled very well. I think I will do ok with zero sweeteners, and I am beyond grateful that for tonight I am not vomiting or having to rely on gatorade. Thank you so much Lea Ann, you will never know how grateful my entire family is to you. Counting Our Blessings, --- Original Message --- From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> Sent: October 4, 2011 10/4/11 Subject: Re: Please help  Hello , I have been sugar free for going on 4 years now.  At first I used dates as I was weaning myself off of the addiction to the taste of sugar.  It didn't take me long to switch over to Stevia.  In my mind, knowing how bad sugar was making me feel, giving up the taste was pretty easy.  Some people learn to eat everything unsweetened, so getting to have the sweetness of Stevia vs. getting NO sweetness was a pretty easy trade off for me.  Now I've been using Stevia for so long that anything with regular sugar is too sweet. Regarding Splenda, I would compare its side effects with the side effects reported for Stevia. Here is a Google Search for Splenda Side Effects: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=splenda+side+effects & ie=UTF-\ 8 & oe=UTF-8 Here is a Google Search for Stevia Side Effects: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=stevia+side+effects & ie=UTF-8\ & oe=UTF-8 I would encourage you to do the best that you can to try to reduce the amount of sweetener you need.  Your body will adapt. I almost never eat fruits anymore, but when I do, I am eating berries in a Green Smoothie.  The berries aren't very sweet, so if the greens are on the bitter side, I will use Stevia - that happens less than once a week.  Other than that, the only other time I use stevia is in my one cup of organic coffee per day (1/3 caffeine, 2/3 swiss water processed decaf).  I've got that down to 8 drops of liquid Stevia if hot brewed, and 6 drops if cold brewed. Stevia has an aftertaste that some people can't get past.  For me, it was Stevia or nothing - I chose to deal with the aftertaste (which never was very bad for me).  Personally I would never consume a chemical version of sugar. I can't have bananas anymore, but for me, a mango and banana smoothie would be PLENTY sweet without the addition of any other sweeteners.  Aside from sweetening with bananas, I found dates to be the next healthiest sweetener.  They are high in natural sugars, but at least they come along with a decent dose of fiber (which helps slow down the insulin response). I hope this is helpful! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL (321) 773-7088 (home) (321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitamixLady.com www..com <))>< On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, jadacaden@... wrote:  Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 OK - I got teary eyed reading this - and I'm grinning from ear to ear. I am SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!! :-) Thank GOD you can regain some of your health and energy! WOO HOO!!! Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, jadacaden@... wrote: I am so happy and IMPRESSED! The mango smoothie was plenty sweet without adding any additional sweeteners. This smoothie is amazing and I am beyond surprised that for the 1st time in 4 months, I was able to enjoy something healthy and it settled very well. I think I will do ok with zero sweeteners, and I am beyond grateful that for tonight I am not vomiting or having to rely on gatorade. Thank you so much Lea Ann, you will never know how grateful my entire family is to you. Counting Our Blessings, --- Original Message --- From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> Sent: October 4, 2011 10/4/11 Subject: Re: Please help Hello , I have been sugar free for going on 4 years now. At first I used dates as I was weaning myself off of the addiction to the taste of sugar. It didn't take me long to switch over to Stevia. In my mind, knowing how bad sugar was making me feel, giving up the taste was pretty easy. Some people learn to eat everything unsweetened, so getting to have the sweetness of Stevia vs. getting NO sweetness was a pretty easy trade off for me. Now I've been using Stevia for so long that anything with regular sugar is too sweet. Regarding Splenda, I would compare its side effects with the side effects reported for Stevia. Here is a Google Search for Splenda Side Effects: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=splenda+side+effects & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8 Here is a Google Search for Stevia Side Effects: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=stevia+side+effects & ie=UTF-8 & oe=UTF-8 I would encourage you to do the best that you can to try to reduce the amount of sweetener you need. Your body will adapt. I almost never eat fruits anymore, but when I do, I am eating berries in a Green Smoothie. The berries aren't very sweet, so if the greens are on the bitter side, I will use Stevia - that happens less than once a week. Other than that, the only other time I use stevia is in my one cup of organic coffee per day (1/3 caffeine, 2/3 swiss water processed decaf). I've got that down to 8 drops of liquid Stevia if hot brewed, and 6 drops if cold brewed. Stevia has an aftertaste that some people can't get past. For me, it was Stevia or nothing - I chose to deal with the aftertaste (which never was very bad for me). Personally I would never consume a chemical version of sugar. I can't have bananas anymore, but for me, a mango and banana smoothie would be PLENTY sweet without the addition of any other sweeteners. Aside from sweetening with bananas, I found dates to be the next healthiest sweetener. They are high in natural sugars, but at least they come along with a decent dose of fiber (which helps slow down the insulin response). I hope this is helpful! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL (321) 773-7088 (home) (321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitamixLady.com www..com <))>< On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, jadacaden@... wrote: Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Haha I said woo hoo and jumped up n down...my mother in law says " don't do that, you might exercise any weight that put on off " . LOL God is good, and for everyone in this group, please know Lea Ann is one of his many angels. :-) --- Original Message --- From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> Sent: October 4, 2011 10/4/11 Subject: Re: Please help  OK - I got teary eyed reading this - and I'm grinning from ear to ear.  I am SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!  :-) Thank GOD you can regain some of your health and energy!  WOO HOO!!! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL (321) 773-7088 (home) (321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitamixLady.com www..com <))>< On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, jadacaden@... wrote:  I am so happy and IMPRESSED! The mango smoothie was plenty sweet without adding any additional sweeteners. This smoothie is amazing and I am beyond surprised that for the 1st time in 4 months, I was able to enjoy something healthy and it settled very well. I think I will do ok with zero sweeteners, and I am beyond grateful that for tonight I am not vomiting or having to rely on gatorade. Thank you so much Lea Ann, you will never know how grateful my entire family is to you. Counting Our Blessings, --- Original Message --- From: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> Sent: October 4, 2011 10/4/11 Subject: Re: Please help  Hello , I have been sugar free for going on 4 years now.  At first I used dates as I was weaning myself off of the addiction to the taste of sugar.  It didn't take me long to switch over to Stevia.  In my mind, knowing how bad sugar was making me feel, giving up the taste was pretty easy.  Some people learn to eat everything unsweetened, so getting to have the sweetness of Stevia vs. getting NO sweetness was a pretty easy trade off for me.  Now I've been using Stevia for so long that anything with regular sugar is too sweet. Regarding Splenda, I would compare its side effects with the side effects reported for Stevia. Here is a Google Search for Splenda Side Effects: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=splenda+side+effects & ie=UTF-\ 8 & oe=UTF-8 Here is a Google Search for Stevia Side Effects: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari & rls=en & q=stevia+side+effects & ie=UTF-8\ & oe=UTF-8 I would encourage you to do the best that you can to try to reduce the amount of sweetener you need.  Your body will adapt. I almost never eat fruits anymore, but when I do, I am eating berries in a Green Smoothie.  The berries aren't very sweet, so if the greens are on the bitter side, I will use Stevia - that happens less than once a week.  Other than that, the only other time I use stevia is in my one cup of organic coffee per day (1/3 caffeine, 2/3 swiss water processed decaf).  I've got that down to 8 drops of liquid Stevia if hot brewed, and 6 drops if cold brewed. Stevia has an aftertaste that some people can't get past.  For me, it was Stevia or nothing - I chose to deal with the aftertaste (which never was very bad for me).  Personally I would never consume a chemical version of sugar. I can't have bananas anymore, but for me, a mango and banana smoothie would be PLENTY sweet without the addition of any other sweeteners.  Aside from sweetening with bananas, I found dates to be the next healthiest sweetener.  They are high in natural sugars, but at least they come along with a decent dose of fiber (which helps slow down the insulin response). I hope this is helpful! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL (321) 773-7088 (home) (321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitamixLady.com www..com <))>< On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:02 PM, jadacaden@... wrote:  Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 In my opinion, , no artificial sweetener, not even Splenda, is as kind to your body as natural substances. But ALL natural substances have calories. Some are not absorbed as quickly and don't cause blood sugar spikes and aren't as harsh on your body as sugar. Ann On Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM, " jadacaden@... " <jadacaden@...> wrote: > Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? > > > Counting Our Blessings,> > > Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hey, -First - of course you can use Splenda! Start without adding any sweetener, tho. When you burst the cell walls of fruit, more sugar is released, it tastes sweeter, so you may not need any added sweet. Second - GO SLOW. This warning may be too late, since I'm on digest, but go slow. Several reasons - smoothies are not low fiber; they are smooth fiber. And you'll be getting lots more fruit sugar than you are used to. Stay away from dates, fruit sugar concentrations, agave - if you are diabetic, they're not good choices for you.You might want to consider adding whey protein or coconut milk - protein or fat will help to slow the absorption of sugar. And in your case, maybe the bloating, fermenting, etc. Have fun . . . and be cautious, OK? Don't make yourself sick. )-- Peace . . . Hawkridge in a NE Seattle 'burb Please help Posted by: " jadacaden@... " jadacaden@...  jadacaden Tue Oct 4, 2011 5:02 pm (PDT) Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 , Actually you were just in time and it really meant a lot to see that you appeared to know a little about my condition. (GP is something not many people including dr's know about, which is why I got so sick and malnourished before I actually was diagnosed). My condition is idiopathic, not caused by diabetes though everyone has been concerned that I would develop it since I was having to stay hydrated with gatorade and coconut water. What has made this so difficult for me is that I have a 13 year old that is slightly overweight. So I hope you can see the catch 22. Here I lost 47 lbs in less than 2 months, all after I started a family heart healthy diet. What we didn't realize was that was making me sicker and eventually killed what was left of my vagus nerve. Basically confused my system because I unknowly had a milder form of GP. Now my stomach is completely paralyzed. So here is my daughter watching her mother vomit and eat very little. (This is because since the food doesn't digest and relies on gravity a simple half of cup of food made me feel full for sometimes 2 or more days. AND that was if it even stayed down) Anyway, my husband and I have worked really hard to educate both our children. However in her eyes, she knows I cant help my disease, but also seen how quickly I lost weight. So as a concerned mother, I am petrified she could develop an eating disorder. With all that said, I have to have trial runs on everything I eat to see how it will affect me. I get lots of advice in my GP forum and keep a food journal. That forum is actually how I learned about how essential a VM was for a GPer. With us its all about how much nutrients we can get from what little food we can eat. So quality over quanity. I am fine with no sugar. Leading me to the 2nd benefit. Helping my family stay healthy even if I can't have the same things. So basically I was asking for the purpose of keeping my children happy with the thing's I can make for them with it. Both children are really excited to try the green smoothies (though I cant do that just yet). So that's why I was asking. I just want to find a way to still keep them eating heart healthy. I had 1 cup of my very 1st mango smoothie made by my VM tonight. So far...really well, no vomiting. YAY! Hubby went crazy at the market. I already have frozen mango, peaches,blueberries, apples and bananas lol. All I could say was hun I hope I tolerate all that well. oh and of course ginger root. Thank you so much. Counting Our Blessings PS...all advice is welcomed...this forum teaches me something new everyday thanks to each of you. --- Original Message --- From: Hawkridge <rayehawk@...> Sent: October 4, 2011 10/4/11 Subject: Re: Please help  Hey, - First - of course you can use Splenda! Start without adding any sweetener, tho. When you burst the cell walls of fruit, more sugar is released, it tastes sweeter, so you may not need any added sweet. Second - GO SLOW. This warning may be too late, since I'm on digest, but go slow. Several reasons - smoothies are not low fiber; they are smooth fiber. And you'll be getting lots more fruit sugar than you are used to. Stay away from dates, fruit sugar concentrations, agave - if you are diabetic, they're not good choices for you. You might want to consider adding whey protein or coconut milk - protein or fat will help to slow the absorption of sugar. And in your case, maybe the bloating, fermenting, etc. Have fun . . . and be cautious, OK? Don't make yourself sick. ) -- Peace . . . Hawkridge in a NE Seattle 'burb Please help Posted by: " jadacaden@... " jadacaden@...  jadacadenTue Oct 4, 2011 5:02 pm (PDT) Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I have a friend that is diabetic. His wife follows all the same recipes as I do. If a recipe calls for 1 cup of sugar, she just substitutes it with 1 cup of Splenda. I tried doing this when making jam. Nobody ever knew the difference, including me. Go ahead & use your Spenda. It will be just fine. They say that everyone should stay away from regular sugar. AmicoCT zone 6 From: jadacaden@... Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: Please help Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things?Counting Our Blessings, Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks , I think for the most part I will be ok without sugar. BUT I wanted to know for the sake of the kiddos. Counting Our Blessings --- Original Message --- From: Amico <l_amico@...> Sent: October 4, 2011 10/4/11 Subject: Re: Please help  I have a friend that is diabetic. His wife follows all the same recipes as I do. If a recipe calls for 1 cup of sugar, she just substitutes it with 1 cup of Splenda. I tried doing this when making jam. Nobody ever knew the difference, including me.  Go ahead & use your Spenda. It will be just fine. They say that everyone should stay away from regular sugar.  Amico CT zone 6  From: jadacaden@... Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: Please help   Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Hi ,I don't personally believe in Splenda. Â Here is one article from Dr. Mercola. Â He can be sensationalist, but I do agree with him here. Â If you are looking for a low glycemic sweetener, I love palm sugar and use it on occasion when I need to sweeten something. Â It is earthy and tastes somewhat like brown sugar - no aftertaste at all - it is delicious. Â You can find it at Amazon, Vitacost, iherb, etc. Â Stevia, like Lea Ann suggested is a wonderful option too. Â But I agree with you - smoothies need no sweeteners if you have fruit! Â In fact, I limit my fruit. Â I am so glad to hear you enjoyed your smoothie today! Â I hope you are able to keep it down and continue to enjoy them! Blessings,On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:02 PM, jadacaden@... <jadacaden@...> wrote: Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Oops here is the article: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/12/03/sucralose-dangers.aspx I know different things work for everyone, but just wanted to put my two cents in! On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Kimble <nkimble@...> wrote: Hi ,I don't personally believe in Splenda.  Here is one article from Dr. Mercola.  He can be sensationalist, but I do agree with him here.  If you are looking for a low glycemic sweetener, I love palm sugar and use it on occasion when I need to sweeten something.  It is earthy and tastes somewhat like brown sugar - no aftertaste at all - it is delicious.  You can find it at Amazon, Vitacost, iherb, etc.  Stevia, like Lea Ann suggested is a wonderful option too.  But I agree with you - smoothies need no sweeteners if you have fruit!  In fact, I limit my fruit.  I am so glad to hear you enjoyed your smoothie today!  I hope you are able to keep it down and continue to enjoy them! Blessings,On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:02 PM, jadacaden@... <jadacaden@...> wrote: Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thank you , after reading the effects about Splenda I was shocked to say the least. I can not believe I've been using that for my children for years. I always opt for healthy with my babies, so I was a little upset that I had not researched it further. Splenda was really the only thing I knew about when they were younger and it was sooo new. ( they are 11 and 13) With that said, I think I will be swapping when making their things, if it needs anything at all. Thank you for the advice and well wishes. I do have to share, as I cleaned my fruits tonight I used Vinegar as usual. Well I've been sick for so long and not been in the kitchen. Soooo what did I do? Not quite finish washing the vinegar off of the apples. Let's just say, for me it was fine...actually calms my belly sometimes but the aftertaste was awful lol. Still not bad for my very 1st try. I would like to ask if you don't mind, both you and Lea Ann and a few others have said y'all were limiginh fruits. Just out of curiousity, why? Im just wondering the benefits of that simply b/c I LOVE fruits. Is it due to the sugars or just a lifestyle change? God bless and thank you for the well wishes. I know it's just because I'm excited, but I already feel like this is going to really help me...so yay maybe I won't need the feeding tube at my next apt in Nov. Fingers crossed. Counting Our Blessings --- Original Message --- From: Kimble <nkimble@...> Sent: October 5, 2011 10/5/11 Subject: Re: Please help  Hi , I don't personally believe in Splenda.  Here is one article from Dr. Mercola.  He can be sensationalist, but I do agree with him here.  If you are looking for a low glycemic sweetener, I love palm sugar and use it on occasion when I need to sweeten something.  It is earthy and tastes somewhat like brown sugar - no aftertaste at all - it is delicious.  You can find it at Amazon, Vitacost, iherb, etc.  Stevia, like Lea Ann suggested is a wonderful option too.  But I agree with you - smoothies need no sweeteners if you have fruit!  In fact, I limit my fruit.  I am so glad to hear you enjoyed your smoothie today!  I hope you are able to keep it down and continue to enjoy them! Blessings, On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:02 PM, jadacaden@... <jadacaden@...> wrote: Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Don't beat yourself up about not knowing the truth about Splenda-they did a remarkable job of convincing the public it was "healthy" when it was first marketed. The simple fact of the matter is ANYTHING that is artificial has serious health consequences. When Splenda was first marketed, corn wasn't as predominantly genetically modified as it is now, and splenda is derived from corn. Almost all corn in the US is now genetically modified, most certainly one used for chemical products, such as Splenda. Now that you DO know, you can make better choices. I also avoid fruits, and many vegetables, but in my case it is due to a sensitivity/allergy to the naturally occurring salicylates and amines in them, which flare up my lupus. I also reversed diabetes by changing how and what I eat. As Lea Ann mentioned, you quickly lose the taste for sugar and sweet things once you give it up. I use a touch of true organic agave, and raw local honey now and then, but for the most part, I just don't care for anything sweet any more...THIS from someone who grew up believing that each meal HAD to end with a very sugary and sweet desert! It is all a matter of giving the body time to adjust. Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? Counting Our Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Then it looks like there IS hope for me...I love things sweetJaneOn Oct 5, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Berry wrote: Don't beat yourself up about not knowing the truth about Splenda-they did a remarkable job of convincing the public it was "healthy" when it was first marketed. The simple fact of the matter is ANYTHING that is artificial has serious health consequences. When Splenda was first marketed, corn wasn't as predominantly genetically modified as it is now, and splenda is derived from corn. Almost all corn in the US is now genetically modified, most certainly one used for chemical products, such as Splenda. Now that you DO know, you can make better choices. I also avoid fruits, and many vegetables, but in my case it is due to a sensitivity/allergy to the naturally occurring salicylates and amines in them, which flare up my lupus. I also reversed diabetes by changing how and what I eat. As Lea Ann mentioned, you quickly lose the taste for sugar and sweet things once you give it up. I use a touch of true organic agave, and raw local honey now and then, but for the most part, I just don't care for anything sweet any more...THIS from someone who grew up believing that each meal HAD to end with a very sugary and sweet desert! It is all a matter of giving the body time to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 LOL, I love them too, Jane-they just don't love me back, so it isn't worth it! My mom and I used to spend hours making elaborate desserts and reading dessert cookbooks-just smelling something sweet now makes me nauseous! Funny how the body will adjust if you let it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I hesitated to bring this up because conversations about Splenda usually don’t go very well but since you mentioned it I’ll add my Splenda experience. I used it for 3 years and loved it. It has the best taste of any artificial sweetener. I lost weight and never missed out on desserts because I just used Splenda. Then I started noticing my ankles swelling after being on my feet for a while. This went on for several months. I have no idea why I even thought it could be the Splenda but I decided to experiment and I stopped using it. That was many years ago and I have not had swollen ankles since then. All you have to do is Google Splenda and you will get thousands of other cases of people having problems after using Splenda. Usually it is a digestive problem. I would use anything but Splenda. Now I use honey, agave or a small amount of sugar. I read that you can use half the amount of sugar in any recipe without any noticeable change in taste and I have found that to be true. A From: Ann Brandenberger Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Please help In my opinion, , no artificial sweetener, not even Splenda, is as kind to your body as natural substances. But ALL natural substances have calories. Some are not absorbed as quickly and don't cause blood sugar spikes and aren't as harsh on your body as sugar. Ann On Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM, "jadacaden@..." <jadacaden@...> wrote:> Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things?> > > Counting Our Blessings,> > > Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I love Splenda, but have found that if I get too much (such as having noncaffeinated beverages sweetened with Splenda throughout the day for three or four days) I will have an " episode " where my heart will suddenly race at 250bpm anywhere from a few minutes to four hours and will have to take a beta blocker to get my heart rate back to normal. I've tried Stevia, but it leaves a metal taste in my mouth. I was using agave, but didn't like the added calories and now learning it's not all it's cracked up to be either. Cardiologists couldn't find anything wrong with my heart, but glad I figured it out. Needless to say, I'm trying to de-sweeten my sweet tooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 What are trying to sweeten? Dates work good for smoothies and frozen deserts. Sent from Samsung mobile <jupiter7@...> wrote: > > >I love Splenda, but have found that if I get too much (such as having noncaffeinated beverages sweetened with Splenda throughout the day for three or four days) I will have an " episode " where my heart will suddenly race at 250bpm anywhere from a few minutes to four hours and will have to take a beta blocker to get my heart rate back to normal. > >I've tried Stevia, but it leaves a metal taste in my mouth. I was using agave, but didn't like the added calories and now learning it's not all it's cracked up to be either. > >Cardiologists couldn't find anything wrong with my heart, but glad I figured it out. Needless to say, I'm trying to de-sweeten my sweet tooth. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Gulp! I have been reading and reading and finally had to stop when I found myself crying. I had 1 bag left that my daughter made some koolaide with last week, I jumped up and threw it straight away. I've always been the mom that loved to cook, so when it came to my kids I would stay in the kitchen for hours to find a way to make their favorite things healthy. As you can imagine, I almost always used Splenda. My daughter begin gaining weight like crazy at about age 9. In a matter of 6 months she was over weight. Today she has a BMI of 27 so she is doing well with the heart healthy diet. The only thing was we couldn't explain her weight gain and didn't want to make a big issue of it. Plain and simple, we didn't want to give her a complex that would lead to an eating disorder. With that said, I became concerned as she kept gaining weight in the belly and I knew this could raise her chances of heart disease or diabetes. Finally took her to a doctor who told us she had an ovarian disorder and when she hit puberty those hormones would straighten out and she'd be ok. Went to a nutritional counselor with recipes in hand to make sure I wasn't harming her and was told not to change one thing. Hindsight, and not saying they are related, for her entire life I have used Spends. Now I have GP, a digestive disorder and chronic tachycardia (resting hr of 110)...not only that but my child had (she's hit puberty and as told the weight is falling off) a hormone problem. I am ANGRY. Right now it's displaced as I want to blame Splenda, but in my heart I know as the years went on I should have researched it. ARGHHH Thanks everyone for helping me find the information I needed to see to take the poison out of my babies diet. If I could get my hands on the people whom invented it...well it would not be pretty. Counting Our Blessings --- Original Message --- From: A <blwkk2@...> Sent: October 5, 2011 10/5/11 Subject: Re: Please help  I hesitated to bring this up because conversations about Splenda usually don’t go very well but since you mentioned it I’ll add my Splenda experience. I used it for 3 years and loved it. It has the best taste of any artificial sweetener. I lost weight and never missed out on desserts because I just used Splenda. Then I started noticing my ankles swelling after being on my feet for a while. This went on for several months. I have no idea why I even thought it could be the Splenda but I decided to experiment and I stopped using it. That was many years ago and I have not had swollen ankles since then. All you have to do is Google Splenda and you will get thousands of other cases of people having problems after using Splenda. Usually it is a digestive problem. I would use anything but Splenda. Now I use honey, agave or a small amount of sugar. I read that you can use half the amount of sugar in any recipe without any noticeable change in taste and I have found that to be true. A  From: Ann Brandenberger Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Please help   In my opinion, , no artificial sweetener, not even Splenda, is as kind to your body as natural substances. But ALL natural substances have calories. Some are not absorbed as quickly and don't cause blood sugar spikes and aren't as harsh on your body as sugar. Ann On Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM, " jadacaden@... " <jadacaden@...> wrote:> Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? > > > Counting Our Blessings, > > > Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 , has your daughter had her cortisol levels checked? In young girls with primarily belly fat, cortisol levels are an often overlooked problem. Might be worth asking her doc, and requesting the test if it hasn't already been done. As for waiting for her to outgrow it when her hormones kick in, I must say I would be apt to try to nip in the bud nutritionally (not with supplements though) rather than waiting. At least you are now gaining the insight and tools to help your family, so that is a great step for all of you! It is easy to want to blame the splenda, but there are many other things that could be going on as well (growth hormones and steroids in meats/milk/dairy/eggs, etc) and you may need to start piecing it all together, but if you only start avoiding the Splenda if you feel that is an issue, then you are off to a good start. As mentioned in another post, some do fine with Splenda and have no issue with it, but most certainly I would look for a replacement where children are concerned, since they get exposed to enough chemical crap just in the school room!> Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my disease, Gastroparesis. Now that my machine's here, I don't know where to begin. I've opted to have a mango smoothie as my first treat. I have also picked several more for the next few days. My question is, I've never eaten sugar. I've always used splenda as a sweetner. For today I picked up some yellow lid juice concentrations until I figure it out. So knowing some use agave, dates and stevio (?not sure how to spell that) and knowing I love splenda, which is the best sweetner to use that most resembles splenda? Or is it actually ok to use splena? I've used honey before, but not crazy about those extra calories. In each of your own opinions which is best to sweeten things? > > > Counting Our Blessings, > > > Sent with Verizon Mobile Email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Also another good point. Why haven't I had her cortisol levels checked?! I will tell you the diet I put my family on, South Beach. At the time it was working miracles, only she wasn't losing weight. So now its as much organic as possible. For them (I cant anymore due to adverse reaction to my disease) its whole wheat, grains, flax, almond and coconut milks; basically high fiber and high protein. For my son, I always add more protein to his plate to help with his growth spurt. So with hesitation I will tell you, she started at 199 lbs. She is now at 169. We started this diet in Feb. And she finally hit puberty in April. (I had tried other diets to try and nip it in the bud) She's losing the weight at a slow and healthy pace. I am so proud of her, she never let it get her down. Aside from my obvious concerns (mentioned earlier about fearful of her developing an eating disorder) she really is doing great, no yo-yoing. Also, she's given me no reason to believe she would develop an eating disorder, I am concerned from a mothers p.o.v. i never want her to see me vomiting, something I cant help, and seeing the massive weight loss and think it's ok. I am 5'9 117 lbs. So Im sure you can imagine my fear of what she sees from her p.o.v. So educating her on proper nutrition and my dx is important. I hope I can get it all under control soon. I am glad I am over protective of everything when it comes to my kids, but it breaks my heart knowing adding Splenda, which when it first came out was sposed to be nautral, could have hurt my daughter. :'( Counting Our Blessings, --- Original Message --- From: Berry <berrywell@...> Sent: October 5, 2011 10/5/11 Subject: Re: Please help  , has your daughter had her cortisol levels checked? In young girls with primarily belly fat, cortisol levels are an often overlooked problem. Might be worth asking her doc, and requesting the test if it hasn't already been done. As for waiting for her to outgrow it when her hormones kick in, I must say I would be apt to try to nip in the bud nutritionally (not with supplements though) rather than waiting. At least you are now gaining the insight and tools to help your family, so that is a great step for all of you! It is easy to want to blame the splenda, but there are many other things that could be going on as well (growth hormones and steroids in meats/milk/dairy/eggs, etc) and you may need to start piecing it all together, but if you only start avoiding the Splenda if you feel that is an issue, then you are off to a good start. As mentioned in another post, some do fine with Splenda and have no issue with it, but most certainly I would look for a replacement where children are concerned, since they get exposed to enough chemical crap just in the school room! > Ok I've been researching what I wanted my first meal to be with my new Vitamix that made its arrival today. I can only eat liquids, low fiber and low fat due to my dise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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