Re: Ore feedback2012 April by ebtisaam

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please tell me the names of 5 mcq books which i need to read From: "miral_hasan@..." <miral_hasan@...> " " < > Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Ore feedback2012 April by ebtisaam

Thank you so much Ebtessam for such detailed feedback,bless you !Inshallah you all will pass with flying coloursMiralSent from my iPadOn 2 May 2012, at 07:55, Anar <anarvyas@...> wrote:

HiFirst of all thank you very much , and we will keep you in our prayers and wish you get your best result soon. Believe it's amazing what you have shared with us , everything is in detail and just perfect. I appreciate the effort you have put in to make a good feedback for all of us. Thank you vm on behalf of everyone who s struggling in this country against GDC to prove their worth, knowing we are neday better than them. Thank you once again . And don't mind but will definitely bother you with some of the links that I need .Enjoy your holidays and take careThanks once again , it's superb.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 2, 2012, at 2:28 AM, ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> wrote:

DEAR ALL

I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE FEEDBACK; sorry it

took me so long to complete

The path to achieve a full registration with the GDC IS NOT

easy but not impossible either.

It needs lots of hard work and dedication.

SO I WILL START WITH THE BOOKS YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO COVER.

I KNOW THAT MOST OF THOSE WHO ARE PREPARING DON`T HAVE MUCH

TIME AVAILABLE and have lots or responsibility but you will have to spare at

least 6 h a day for 4 month to be able to go through all the material required

for ORE plus to do a proper revision.

THE PROBLEM WITH ORE PART 1 IS NOT THE DIFFICULTY OF THE

EXAM IT’S THE AMOUNT YOU WILL HAVE TO COVER

MY ADVICE TO ALL of those giving part 1 is to have a WELL

arranged plan for the coming 4 and a half month.

You will need to cover

1.

the basic

science then plus all the feedback questions

2.

Cover the

clinical dentistry plus the feedbacks.

3.

Doing a revision answering the feedbacks again,

Followed by answering the 5 MCQ books.

(((((KEEP IN MIND THAT THE KEY TO PASSING

THE ORE IS ANSWERING THE FEEDBACK THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT))))))

SINCE IN THE ORE APRIL 2012 WE HAD

80% OF REPEATED QUESTIONS IN PAPER A ((BASIC

SCIENCE))

40% OF REPEATED QUESTIONS FOR PAPER B ((CLINICAL

SCIENCE)), I was in the second batch the first batch had a higher percentage of

repeated questions FOR paper B

THE BOOKS I USED FOR THE PREPARATION:

1.

BASIC SCIENCE:

A.

Anatomy for dental students ( you can use any

anatomy book you have) + netter anatomy

atlas ( if u don`t have the soft copy contact me I will be glad to send

it)

B.

Physiology ( Vander’s + blue book)

C.

Microbiology and pathology ( blue book is

enough)

D.

Hypersensitivity ( Wikipedia) the reason I

placed it in a separate item is bec its very important

E.

Oral histology ( blue book plus wiki are enough)

PLUS WIKI

F.

Pharmacology (( PINK BOOK, CHURCHIL , ANY UNDERGRADUATE PHARMACOLOGY BOOK I USED (pharmacology

for dental students), SCully ( local anesthesia, SEDATION, GA, PLUS THE TABLE

WITH THE MOST COMMON SIDE EFFECTS OF DIFFERENT MEDICATION, SCOTTISH GUIDELINE

2008))

G.

CLINICAL SCIENCE :

o

PINK BOOK

o

CHURCHIL

o

MASTER 1 AND 2

o

3 CHS IN ODELL ( BRIDGE DESIGN, AN UNPLEASANT

SURPRISE, AN ADVERSE REACTION)

o

CLINICAL GUIDE SERIES FROM THE BRITISH DENTAL

JOURNAL ( ONLY IF U HAVE TIME)

H.

BDA ADVICE SHEETS ((((((THEY ARE VERY IMP))))))

1.

DATA PROTECTION (( BORING BUT IMP))

2.

ETHICS IN DETISTRY ((( VERY IMP))

3.

INFECTION CONTROL (( V IMP))

4.

RADIATION ADVICE SHEET ((V IMP))

5.

DENTAL RECALL

6.

HEALTH AND SAFETY (( V IMP))

7.

RISK ASSESMENT (( V IMP))

I.

DELIEVERING A BETTER ORAL HEALTH DOC IS A MUST

J.

STATISTICS PROVIDED FROM DR IRFAN ARE MORE THAN

ENOUGH

((U CAN FIND THE DOCUMENT ATTACHED IN THE FACEBOOK GROUP: ORE 1))

SO HERE IS HOW I PLANNED MY STUDIES

I PREPARED FOR A TOTAL OF 4 MONTH AND A HALF ((WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME

TIME U GUYS HAVE LEFT))

I first started by covering all the basic science. ((IT TOOK

ME A MONTH AND A HALF TO COMPLETE))

1.

Anatomy:

a.

COVER THE FIRST 84 PAGES IN BLUE BOOK

(HAVE A LOOK FIRST AT THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS THEY WILL GUIDE U ON THE

IMPORTANT TOPICS IN ANATOMY U NEED TO STRESS ON

EX: ORAL ANATOMY SECTION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

1.

SOFT PLATE

2.

SALIVARY GLAD

3.

TONGUE

4.

EMBRYOLOGY THE FIRST 4 PAGES

5.

CRANIAL NERVE VERY IMPORTANT

6.

PAGE 83 THE DERIVATIVES OF DIFFERENT BRACHIAL

ARCHES

7.

EYE MUSCLES ARE VERY IMP

b.

Then do all the diagrams in netter anatomy atlas

( head and neck)

Very imp ((IF U DON`T HAVE THE SOFT COPY FOLDER CONTACT ME I WILL BE GLAD

TO SEND IT))

1.

Facial muscles VVVVVVVVVVVV. IMP (( WE HAD TO

IDENTIFY FACIAL MUSCLES IN THE EXAM))

2.

Tmj muscles

3.

Tongue muscles

4.

Skull diagrams (( foramena and there contents))

5.

Mandible (( very imp ))

6.

SALIVARY GLANDS

7.

HYOID BONE AND STRUCTURES ATTACHED ((V IMP))

8.

EMBRYOLOGY DIAGRAMS ((FETAL DEVELOPMENT))

C. DO CHAPTER 13 IN SCULLY ((NEUROLOGY)) I HAVE THE 6TH

EDITION SO IF you are using the fifth edition it would probably have different

number

1. Only cover the

CRANIAL NERVE LESIONS FOR KNOW THEY ARE EXTREMLY IMP

2. THE TABLE THAT HAS THE EXTRACRANIAL CAUSES OF NERVE

PARALYSIS IS VERY IMP AS WELL

D. USE ANY

UNDERGRADUATE ANATOMY BOOK TO HELP U SOLVE THE REST OF THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS.

WHEN U FINISH COVERING THE ABOVE U WILL HAVE TO ANSWER ALL

THE PREVIOUS FEEDBACKS QUESTIONS ((THIS IS VERY IMP DON`T SKIP IT BEC 2 MONTH

FROM NOW U WILLN`T REMEMBER HALF THE STUFF U READ)). What I did is I answered

all the ANATOMY FEEDBACK QUESTIONS INA SEPARATE NOTEBOOK SO WHEN I AM DOING THE

REVISION I WILL ONLY HAVE TO READ THE ANSWERED QUESTIONS INSTEA DOF HAVING TO

OPEN ALL THE BOOKS AGAIN.

2.

Microbiology:

a.

Blue book is enough: I only covered the

following sections (( they are the most imp))

Bacteria

ch 49: cover the morphology and nutrition, growth and cultivation (the first 4

pages)

B. Antimicrobial chemotherapy it’s VVVV. IMP. AND

diagnostic bacteriology

C.

FOR CH 51: YOU ONLY NEED TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE

BACTERIA ITS MAJOR CHCH AND THE DISEASE IT CAUSE. (( an easy way to do it is to

make a table with covering the 3 items I mentioned above

D.

CHAPTER 52 (VIRUS AND CH 53 FUNGI ) IS VERY IMP

E.

DO N`T REMEMBER THE MOST IMP THING IS TO COVER

ALL THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS

3.

IMMUNOLOGY: VERY IMP

A.

Cover wiki first here is the link: Its very

important we had 6 questions in ore1 2012

((http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersensitivity))

B.

Immunology in blue book : (( BB IMMUNOLOGY IS

COMPLICATED SO JUST DO THE PARTS I MENTIONED))

1. (Do the basic structure plus the different types)

2. Hypersensitivity

3. Chapter 18 in vander (( THE DEFENSE MECHANISM OF THE BODY))

C.

IN SCULLY: COVER BOTH THE

1.

ALLERGY

2.

HYPERSENSITIVITY

D.

THE FEEDBACKS QUESTIONS ITS VERY IMP

4.

GENERAL PATHOLOGY:

A.

THE PATHOLOGY CHAPTER IN BLUE BOOK IS VERY

IMPORTANT

B.

ANSWER ALL THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS

5.

BIOCHEMISTRY:

1.

BLUE BOOK : ONLY COVER

A.

THE 2

PAGES ( EPITHELIAL TISSUE)

B.

DENTINE PAGE 345

C.

CH 31, 32, 34 ARE VERY IMP

D.

VANDER CH

(( CELL STRUCTURE AND PROTEIN FUNCTION)) VERY IMO THE FIRST BATCH HAD

LOTS OF QUES FROM THIS CHAPTER

E.

ANSWER ALL THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS FOR

BIOCHEMISTRY THEYARE ABOUT (( 20 QUESTIONS))

6.

ORAL HISTOLOGY: IS AN EASY SUBJECT (( WE HAD

LOTS OF QUESTIONS IN ORAL HISTOLOGY SO COVER IT PROPERLY))

A.

BLUE BOOK: IS AMAZING AND HAS EVERYTHING U NEED

TO KNOW COVER EVERY SINGLE LINE AND PICTURES (( DON`T SKIP ANYTHING)) AND REMEMBER

SINCE BLUE BOOK IS VERY CONSICE IT WILL N`T EXPLAIN MUCH

((((((((( IF U DON`T REMEMBER USE

A REFERENCE BOOK EX: TENCATE TO GO THROUGH THE BASICS AGAIN))

B.

COVER THR

TOOTH DEVELOPMENT DIGRAM FROM TENCATE OR GOOGLE THE PIC ONLINE

(((( I HAVE DOWNLOADED THE SOFT COPY REVISION VERSION OF TENCATE IT HAD ABOUT 400 QUESTIONS PLUS

LOTS OF DIAGRAMS , SO IT MAKE ORAL HISTOLOGY VERY EASYY))))

7.

PHARMACOLOGY:

1.

PINK BOOK:

A.

ANALGESIC, ANESTHESIA AND SEDATION

B. THERAPEUTICS

2.

CHURCHIL:

A.

ANALGESIC , SEDATION AND GA

B.

DENTAL PRESCRIBING AND THERAPEUTICS

C.

Emergency in dentistry

3.

Scully:

Chapter 1: MEDICAL EMERGENCY

CHAPTER 3: ANALGESICS, LOCAL ANESTHESIA ((((((VERY IMP))) EVERY LITTLE

DETAIL

THE TABLES IN CH 3

4.

Master series:

MASTER 1: CHAPTER 4 ANXIETY AND PAIN CONTROL

VERY IMP PLUS ANSWER THE MCQ AND

EMQ

MASTER 2: CH 6 CONSCIOUS SEDATION IN DENTISTRY

VERY IMP PLUS ANSWER THE EMQ AND MCQ

(((( U MIGHT THINK IT’S A LOT TO COVER BUT BELIEVE ME ITS NOT THE

ABOVE CAN TAKE A TOTAL OF 3 DAYS MAX TO

COVER U DON`T HAVE TO REMEMBER ANY DOSES GIVEN IN ANY OF THE ABOVE BOOKS EXCEPT FOR THE:

1.

LOCAL ANESTHETIC USE THE ONES PROVIDED IN PINK

OR SCULLY ( BOTH ARE THE SAME))

2. CONSCIOUS SEDATION IN MASTER SERIES

5.

DOSES U NEED TO MEMORIZE ARE THE ONES PROVIDED

IN THE

(((((SCOTTISH GUIDELINE 2008)))))

IT’S AN AMAZING DOCUMENT MADE MY

PHARMACOLOGY VERY EASY

((((IF U DON`T HAVE THE DOC CONTACT ME AND I WILL BE GLAD TO SEND IT TO

U))

(((((TO REASSURE U WE DID N`T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DRUG DOSES

IN ORE APRIL 2012 EXAM))))

8.

PHYSIOLOGY: VERY IMP WE HAD 20% OF PHYSIO

QUESTIONS

AND SINCE U NEVER KNOWS WHAT R THE IMP

TOPICS, U WILL HAVE TO COVER ALL OF THEM PROPERLY:

o

Chap1 - Homeostasis : A framework for human

Physiology

o

Chap 3 - Cellular structure Proteins and

Metabolism

o

Chap 4 - Movement of molecules across membranes

o

CHAP: 6 NERVE

o

Chap 9 – Muscle

o

Chap 11 - The Endocrine System section a is v

imp

o

Chap 12 - Cardiovascular Phsiology v imp

o

Chap 13- Respiratory Phyisology v imp

o

Chap 14 - The Kidneys and Regulation of water

and Inorganic Ions imp

o

Chap 15- The Digestion and Absorption of food v

imp

o

Chap 16 - Regulation of Organic Metabolism and

Energy Balance

o

Chap 18- Defense mechanisms of the body v imp

v

THE FIRST BATCH WHO TOOK ORE IN APRIL 2012 HAD

QUESTIONS MAINLY FROM CH 3

v

THE SECOND BATCH HAD QUESTIONS FROM CH ((6 AND

9))

INSTEAD OF WRITING UR OWN EXTERNAL NOTE (( THAT COULD TAKE U AN ENTIRE MONTH

AND BELIVE ME U WILL N`T BE ABLE TO FINISH))

Just mark the important sections in the book so when ur doing the revision u

will read them quickly.

v

HOW WILL U KNOW WHAT`S IMP?????

By going through the feedbacks first they will guide u on what`s imp to

cover J

J

J

NOW SINCE WE ARE DONE WITH THE BORING BASIC SUBJECTS WE WILL START THE

CLINICAL SCIENCE.

I first cover eric white the whole

book tooth me 5 days

The important chs:

1.

CH 7 IMAGE PROCESSING

2.

COVER CH 8 VERY IMP ((RADIATION PROTECTION AND

LEGISLATION))

3.

CH 12 OCCLUSAL RADIOGRAPHY

4.

CH 14 SKULL AND MAXILLOFACIAL RADIOGRAPHY

5.

CH 17 PANORAMIC RADIOGRAPHY

6.

CH 18 THE QUALITY OF RADIOGRAPHIC IMAGES AND QUALITY

ASSURANCE

7.

CH 27 AND 28 ARE IMP THEY WILL ALSO HELP IMPROVE UR

ORAL PATHOLOGY

3.

CHUCHIL: IT HAS THE SUMMARY OF THE MAJORITY OF THE

IMPORTANT TABLES IN ERIC WHITES

(((((((COVER RADIOLOGY CHAPTER ITS VERY IMP))))))

4.

BDA : RADIATION ADVICE SHEET VERY IMP

5.

KODAK DOC (( VERY HELPFUL))

2.

RESTORATIVE DENTISTRY (( OPERATVE, ENDODONTICS, CROWN

AND BRIDGE))

A.

COVER PINK BOOK

B.

COVER CHRCHIL

C.

MASTER 2 (( RESTORATIVE AND ENDO CHS))

D.

ANSWER THE FEEDBACK THEY ARE VERY IMP

3.

PERIODONTOLOGY:

A.

PERIO IN MASTER 2 IS AMAZING

B.

PERIO IN PINK BOOK

C.

PERIO IN CHRCHIL

D.

THE 8 PPT PROVIDED BY THE BRITISH SOCIETY OF

PERIODONTOLOGY ARE VERY IMP

http://www.bsperio.org.uk/undergraduates/index.php

E.

THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS

4.

PROTHODONTICS:

A.

PINK BOOK

B.

CHURCHIL

C.

MASTER 2

D.

FEEDBACKS

5.

PEDIATRIC DENTISTRY

AND PREVENTIVE DENTISTRY:

A.

MASTER 2 IS VERY IMP

B.

PINK BOOK

C.

CHRCHIL

D.

DELIEVERING BETTER ORAL HEALTH (( VERY IMP USE IT FOR

FLOURIDE DOSES))

E.

FEEDBACKS

6.

ORAL AND MAXILLOFACIAL SURGERY:

A.

PINK BOOK

B.

CHRICHIL

C.

MASTER 1:

1.

CH 3: MEDICAL

ASPECTS OF PT CARE

2.

CH 6: REMOVAL OF TEETH AND SURGICAL IMPLANTOLOGY

3.

CH 8 ORAL AND MAXILLOFACIAL INJURIES

4.

CH 9 DENTOFACIAL ANOMALIES (( CLEFT PALATE IS VERY

IMP))

D.

MASTER 2:

RESTORATIVE MANAGEMENT OF DENTAL IMPLANTS

E.

ALL THE FEEDBACKS QUESTIONS

7.

ORTHODONTICS:

1.

PINK BOOK

2.

CHURCHIL

3.

MASTER IS COMPLICATED I ONLY COVERED CH 11

Orthodontic 111: APPLIANCES AND TOOTH MOVEMENT

4. FEEDBACK QUESTIONS (( WE ONLY HAD 2 QUESTIONS IN

ORTH))

8.

ORAL MEDICINE:

SINCE THIS IS A HUGE SUBJECT AND U CAN NEVER GO

THROUGH ALL OF COWSON AND SCULLY

I FIRST COVERED ORAL MEDICINE

1.

CHURCHIL

2.

PINK

3.

MASTER 1

THEN I USED SCULLY AND CAWSON TO SOLVE THE

FEEDBACK QUESTIONS.

REMEMBER THE FEEDBACKS WILL HELP GUIDE U TO THE MOST IMPORTANT TOPICS U NEED

TO COVER FROM BOTH BOOKS.

ALL THE ORAL PATHOLOGY QUESTIONS WE HAD IN THE EXAM WERE REPEATED FEEDBACKS

QUESTIONS

IN SCULLY COVER:

1.

Headache in the neurology ch

2.

HEMATOLOGY CH IS VERY IMP COVER EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY

the tests required for different conditions

EX: If the

pt is suffering LEUKEMIA OR MULTIPLE MYLOMA

WHICH TEST WILL U REQUEST TO CONFIRM DIAGNOSIS

CAWSON:

1.

SALIVARY GLAND

2.

PLUS USE IT AS A REFRENCE TO SOLVE THE 1500 QUESTIONS U

HAVE FOR ORAL PATHOLOGY

9.

STATISTICS:

USE THE 2 PAGES PROVIDED BY DR IRFAN U CAN FIND

THEM ATTACHED IN THE DOC SECTION IN THE ORE1 FACEBOOK GROUP.

10. EVIDENCE

BASED PRACTICE:

A.

MASTER 1 THE FIRST CHAPTER

B.

THE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS ANSWER ALL OF THEM THEY ARE VERY

IMP

(((WE HAD

8 QUESTIONS IN ORE 1 APRIL 2012)))

11. LAW AND ETHICS VERY IMP

1.

PINK BOOK

2.

CHURCHIL

3.

MASTER 2 CH 12

4.

ALL THE BDA SHEETS VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV. IMP.

A.

DATA PROTECTION (( BORING BUT IMP))

B.

ETHICS IN DETISTRY ((( VERY IMP))

C.

INFECTION CONTROL (( V IMP))

D.

RADIATION ADVICE SHEET ((V IMP))

E.

DENTAL RECALL

F.

HEALTH AND SAFETY (( V IMP))

G.

RISK ASSESMENT (( V IMP))

THE BASIC SCIENCE TOOK ME A MONTH AND A HALF TO FINISH, AND THEN I COVERED

THE CLINICAL SUBJECTS IN 2 MONTH.

I DID ONE MONTH REVISION:

THE MOST IMP THING IS TO ANSWER THE FEEDBACKS QUESTIONS AT LEAST TWICE

BEFORE THE EXAM THEN U CAN DO THE MCQ BOOKS OR PASSTEST. ((((BUT please don`t

waste ur time answering either passtest or mcq books when you haven`t even

covered the feedback s questions, I know people who passed only relaying on the

feedbacks)))

I am sure that ur hard work will pay off

1.

Don`t worry

2.

Plan ur preparation: do it step wise , Make sure u cover

all the feedbacks that`s very imp

3.

Have a 1 month revision

4.

If u didn`t have time to cover passtest or even all the

MCQ that`s not a big deal

5.

I will say it for the 500 time (((((THE FEEDBACKS ARE

MORE IMP)))

6.

It always helps to have a motivating study partner

7.

If u have any documents please share it with other

applicants, remember what goes around comes around.

THE GDC IS MAKING EVERYTHING DIFFICULT ALREADY SO

PLEASE HELP EACH OTHER WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME SITUATION.

((BELIEVE ME NO ONE WILL TAKE UR PLACE BUT WE CAN

ALL MAKE IT THROUGH ORE TOGETHER))

SORRY FOR THE DELAY I WILL BE POSTING PART 2

OF MY FEEDBACK WITHIN 2 DAYS IT HAS ALL THE QUESTIONS IN PAPER A AND

PAPER B FROM THE SECOND BATCH.

BEST OF LUCK

PS: PLEASE DO N`T FORGET ME IN UR PRAYERS

From: "Mokaamr@..." <mokaamr@...> Ore < > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012, 22:38 Subject: Toxic

sealer

Please tell me what is the toxic rt canal sealant?

Is it enomethasone and other sealent based on paraformaldehyde?

Some feedbacks say Ah26 ref?

Thanks

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