Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 > From: Knod <kelly@...> > > I have a request. My daughter is in the middle of a med change. Right > now it seems as if she isn't even on medication. Her worst OCD things > are appearing and I can't seem to explain to the teacher and school > counselor. I wonder if I could get some feedback that maybe I could > print out and give to the school. I have given them the booklet OCD and > School Personnel, taken them The Touching Tree and many others, I think > some hands on experience might be helpful. Hi , you and your daughter have my sympathy, med changes are the *worst.* With every change or dose increase my daughter's ocd would go off the charts--explosion of new symptoms, plus Tourette's-like physical tics, hyperness, insomnia, etc., it's always seemed like we were making a huge mistake in making a change until a few weeks passed and these things settled down. Could your daughter's doctor contact the teacher and school counselor and explain this fact of life? I can't recall any source that explains these temporary effects of SSRIs, though there's plenty of anecdotal evidence on this list and elsewhere where people discuss their ocd meds. Good luck, Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 Hi : IMO you are bang on about the teacher participating in 's OCD by getting her to pick up trash. If you have already explained the problem to the teacher and they still are getting to do trash detail you will have to take action higher up in the school. Does the school have a counselor, special ed teacher, psychologist or someone who is used to dealing with kids who need accommodations in school? They may be someone good to talk to and try to go around this teacher. If not, try the school principal. No teacher has the right to persist in their ignorance and do something harmful like participating in rituals, particularly when you have pointed out the problem to them. Good luck, please keep us posted. Take care, aloha, Kathy (H) kathyh@... At 09:52 AM 10/4/99 +0100, you wrote: >From: Knod <kelly@...> > >I have a request. My daughter is in the middle of a med change. Right >now it seems as if she isn't even on medication. Her worst OCD things >are appearing and I can't seem to explain to the teacher and school >counselor. I wonder if I could get some feedback that maybe I could >print out and give to the school. I have given them the booklet OCD and >School Personnel, taken them The Touching Tree and many others, I think >some hands on experience might be helpful. > >The situation is this. My daughter's worst OCD happens on the >playground. I have tried to explain to the teacher that if she sees >anything starting she needs to send to the counselors office. >Currently we don't have a Behavior Therapist and when s OCD kicks >in it is out of control. For Example, she is afraid that other kids are >going to get hurt. She picks up garbage, wood, backpacks, anything she >can find. Once she starts she panics because she realizes that there is >no way she can get everything, plus where does she put the things she >has already collected? Luckily only minor things have happened, but I >can see it getting worse each day and I don't want to be >embarrassed in front of her classmates because she has a meltdown. > >My problem, the teacher thinks that is just a very conscientious >child and that I am making something out of nothing. was worried >about some wood on the playground. The teacher sent to the >janitor to explain the problem. I told the teacher that she should have >never sent to the janitor. The teacher was making an OCD thing >O.K.. picks up trash, well the teacher thinks she is just the >cleanest child and there is nothing wrong with that. I have told her >that I don't want being worried about safety issues, picking up >trash. It isn't her job to do that first but secondly it is her OCD and >it will just keep rolling like a snowball and get bigger and bigger. >So, if anybody can explain things better than I have, actually I read >the emails this morning on Homework/Explosions and they were so >wonderful! Also the shopping emails were wonderful. They all explained >our situation perfectly! > >Thank you for your time! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Can everyone please remember to trim their posts? There has been a lot of forwarding of unnecessary stuff. It gets hard for those of us on digest;) Thanks all, Marnie " If the moment you have created is not beautiful, just re-create it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 We have a lot of Mexicans here in Michigan. They come for the apple picking season. Anyhow, my point is, although most are not citizens here, they all qualify for medicaid, food stamps, etc. And even if they make too much money for the whole assistance, they most likely will qualify for the other special needs insurance for their child. I would suggest their first step would be to contact their department of social services. Have a letter from the doctor explaining the child's diagnosis and needs with them when they go. Sometimes the hospital will help with this, especially if there is already a hospital bill to contend with. Also a statement from the doctor with approximate cost of care comes in handy. Another thing would be to call any local charities that assist medically with children, even if they can't help, they usually have tons of information about where to turn next. Good luck! Diane, Mom to Kody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2002 Report Share Posted September 19, 2002 Belinda, Let me make some phone calls & let you know. If I'm not mistaken, residents (through work visa also) can receive Medicaid benefits for children, depending on income. Also, I do know that CHIP programs in states do not ask for any type of residency information. I'm putting in a call to our local CHIP person & will let you know for sure. Ray, mother to Tabitha (age 7), Autumn, age 4 (IgG def., asthma, chronic sinusitis, and allergies), and Duncan (16 months) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Oh. Sorry. Thank you for having me. I am listening in. W. Bush Me too. Dick Cheney Hey! Me too! Alberto (Bert) Gonzolas Us too. & The Supremes. We're not. Nor have we ever been. Except...this ONE TIME...to answer this claim. Dean, DNC chairman HA HA HA! Just kidding. (If you email the listserve from Afghanistan, they will listen.) That is not true! Osama Bin in-dis-cave-too-long Laden ( E. Abrahamson, D.C.)Chiropractic physicianLake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic315 Second StreetLake Oswego, OR 97034503-635-6246Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.comI am listening. Request Dr. Freeman, When someone is added to the list serve could you please let us all know who it is ? Recently someone chimed in on an issue and they had never, to my memory, participated before including just a 'hello' to let us all know they were there. I checked the membership and they have been on the list serve for quite a while. Without knowing who is out there 'listening', it kind of feels like being eavesdropped upon. Thanks. sharron fuchs dc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suzanne Messina and ALL, Having been, at times, the object of the " ire " of members of this group and not having responding by demanding my " detractors " be muzzled but rather by simply CLEARLY stating my position and modus operandi with respect to the issue in question, I would suggest that you should do likewise. Since I live in a society that claims to value " free speech, " I am opposed to censuring any person who simply states his opinions to this group. With respect to the CAA, I would respectfully request that you and others reread my post: >[EOHarm , >08:11 7/23/06 -0400 >Re: Re: Unlocking Autism's >ance . . . and respond to it. As to the CAA, it is certainly a sellout in the sense that the " substitute " bill, as written, does NOT keep the promise made for legislation requiring the study of role of Thimerosal & subacute mercury poisoning in children diagnosed with the " causeless " disorder " autism " and the other related " causeless " disorders. This is a reality that remains no matter who, including yourself and the others you mention, continue to, for reasons that are less than apparent to me, support legislation that not only appears to be a sellout but, like the " pea " in the proverbial shell game, is not even on the table. Moreover, each time this " pea " has been revealed, with no advance public notice, the " pea " has changed but again not as was promised. [Note: The substitute " joint " bill introduced by the HELP committee and supported by Bill Frist, is now being " considered " for passage, not as the supporters' language indicates, by just the Senate but, because it is a JOINT bill, it is being " considered " by both houses of Congress.] If, the people's money is what you say we need, then you should be organizing a general public " not for profit " 501c3 corporation with the other groups to fund and support the research that is truly needed, research into the causes, prevention and curative treatments, and not money to support " gene " research and the classification and counting of those who have been harmed or to educate doctors -- let the " healthcare establishment " who, wants these to help them escape their responsibility for the harm their knowing anction have causes and profits from these, sponsor such. If, as your posturing indicates to me, you are interested in the momentary " celebrity " of " getting something done, " then you should continue your support for the current toothless and unhelpful CAA bill. As always, the choice is yours, but please do NOT attempt to silence your critics who have made other choices as your repeated posting here suggests. Convince me with credible argument that your case is valid and please cease from telling me how much effort you & others have invested. As some have said, the result is NOT what you LED this group and others to THINK it would be and, because of the agreement you seem to have made with the other groups and then broke ( " facts " that you have not disputed), your voice carries little weight with me. As my Master said of " trees, " " ... by their fruits shall you know them ... " ( 7: 15-23) Hopefully, you will consider these words with an open heart. Respectfully, Dr. King http://www.dr-king.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 19:44 7/27/06 -0400, you wrote: > >---------- > >From: suzanne messina [mailto:solvethepuzzle@...] >Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:39 PM >'EOHarm ' >Subject: Moderator > > > I am requesting that the moderator ask >Kerbob to refrain from incendiary, unkind, >even slanderous posts. This is causing >divisiveness > >and untrue innuendo to abound. I also ask >for support in this request. The frequency >of this type of post goes beyond the >occasional burst of emotion > > > >.Several of our pioneers and champions have >been verbally and personally insulted, > >and wrongfully accused. This is not only >inappropriate, but intolerable. Again, I >ask those on the list to support this >request. > > > > Suzanne Messina REAACH > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I read the summary of what studies Autism Speaks funded. Anyone know how many proposals with " real " research were submitted? Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 n, First, I would suggest that what you want in terms of a bill was already drafted by abler " legislation drafters " than I am -- as J. Krakow's post clearly indicates. Moreover, having repeatedly drafted sound legislation or worked to improve the text in others' proposals to remove mercury from medicine and dentistry at the Federal and State level as well as to reform the FDA, and figuratively found the trashcans of those legislators who received copies of the bills I drafted or helped draft filled with those drafts, I: a) see no value in talking to those whose ears are " stopped with wax " and adhere to the tenet that one should not waste time " casting pearls " before those who's ears listen to the sound of money and cannot hear the cries of the people injured by their actions and/or inactions. Therefore, having been taught these lessons by the rich and powerful who do have access and are listened to, I do not waste my time in such less-than productive endeavors as the one you have suggested. Though you commented: >Your knowledge and expertise in >chemistry together with your >lifelong experience provide you >with a cauldron of credibility. my experience and understanding cover many areas other than the ones you noted. These have taught me to speak out for what needs to be done and not to expend my energy in " redoing " what others more qualified than I in drafting legislation, as J. Krawkow Esq. has pointed out, have already done only to find their best efforts so far ignored and pushed aside in favor of language supported by the healthcare establishment. Therefore, please: a. desist from trying to tell me what you think I should do, b. " hear " what I am proposing, c. either accept or reject the validity of my remarks, and d. if you want to be part of the solution, actively proceed based on your decision about the validity of the statements made. Hopefully, this response will help you understand that my comments were based on my understanding of the current situation, the science, and the need for the people to pursue options other than the current federal legislation if they truly want to " combat " autism. Respectfully, Dr. King http://www.dr-king.com PS: In a world griven by greed and " what is in it for me, " those who are being harmed must ban together and do what needs to be done to protect the group because those in " power " typically are the rich or the lackeys for their rich patrons who have little or no interest in protecting the interests of those who are being harmed especially when they are directly or indirectly profiting from the harm that Thimerosal- preserved vaccines have caused and are causing to the non-voters (fetuses, babies, children, and young adolescents) and the rest of those who are the parents and concerned relatives of these non- voters. This voting-age group is also being harmed by the Thimerosal-preserved vaccines with which we are being injected and by which we have also been apparently KNOWINGLY mercury poisoned since the 1960s, if not the 1930s, because the healthcare establishment realized that subacutely mercury poisoning us directly and indirectly fattened their bottom line and, over time, greatly increased their customer base. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 04:51 7/28/06 -0700, you wrote: > >I agree with yuor substance but then why don't >you write up a clearly concise substitute for >what and how the bill should look. Your >knowledge and expertise in chemistry together >with your lifelong experience provide you with >a cauldron of credibility. > > It's all very well to sling stones and arrows >at congress or groups whom I agree are not >really addressing the issue of vaccines et al >as they should, but offer them something >substantive based upon clear well thought out >logic. This will lay the groundwork for later >discussion when their failure to listen to >you will play out in disastrous consequences. >You'll be in a position of " see I told you so " >Each failure on their part limits and diminishes >their credibility. > > Academics such as yourself, have a huge role >to play by presenting cogent rational theses. > > Too many on this list state what the powers >that be are not doing which is fair, but then >TELL THEM EXACTLY, > WHAT TO DO > AND HOW TO DO IT > AND WHY THEY SHOULD DO IT. > > Take care, best > n > > " G. King " <drking@...> wrote: >> >> >> Suzanne Messina and ALL, >> >>Having been, at times, the object of >>the " ire " of members of this group >>and not having responding by demanding >>my " detractors " be muzzled but rather >>by simply CLEARLY stating my position >>and modus operandi with respect to the >>issue in question, I would suggest >>that you should do likewise. >> >>Since I live in a society that claims >>to value " free speech, " I am opposed >>to censuring any person who simply >>states his opinions to this group. >> >>With respect to the CAA, I would >>respectfully request that you and >>others reread my post: >>>[EOHarm , >>>08:11 7/23/06 -0400 >>>Re: Re: Unlocking Autism's >>>STance . . . >>and respond to it. >> .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I do agree with Martha.I find myself forgetting to change subject lines - so no one should ever criticize if someone forgets - but if we all could work towards the goal of trying to remember to change subject lines, people could filter for topics they are interested in and batch deleted those they are not interested in.We always loose a hand full of members whenever a thread gets a LOT of discussion. I don't worry too much about the loss of members, because no list suits everyone all of the time, but I do hope that we can do what we can to make it easier for people who are on a lot of lists or who just hope to get some recipes now and then, to filter subject lines for the topics they are interested in so they can batch delete without fear that the topic has changed and they've just batch deleted something of great value (which this list offers on a regular basis :-) Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Martha wrote: Hi group,I have a request to you all. I love all the camaraderie and joking around on this list. So by no means am I asking you to curtail it. All I'm requesting is that you be aware of the subject line when replying to a post and alter it if necessary. I belong to several food related groups so reading through them all is time consuming. If we label the subject line appropriately, it really helps others and myself who have a time crunch, to better read the messages of utmost importance to us. As an example, in the last day or so there was a thread labeled "whole wheat pancakes." It quickly digressed to the topic of gadgets but the subject line never got changed. Now, PLEASE understand, I am not criticizing the digression. I too love the fun at this group. I would just like it if we could all be more aware and label subject lines accordingly. That way, if we are searching for recipes or discussions related to the Vitamix, we can skip over the unrelated topics for the time being and come back to them when we have more time available. I know some are more conscious of changing or adding to the subject line as necessary. I'm requesting that we all try to be more aware.I appreciate your consideration and again, BY NO MEANS am I asking you to squelch the fun. Not at all. I like to have fun too!!!MarthaP.S. I almost did not post this request because I do not want anyone to feel I am stepping on his/her toes. I am not addressing this request to use standard email etiquette to anyone in particular, just to the group as a whole. I would have sent this message to the list owner and had them handle it, if I knew who that person was. Thank you in advance. Let the fun continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Thank you, Lea Ann, for understanding the intent of my request. You make a good point about the possibility of deleting something of great value if the topic does not get changed! And I agree that no one should ever be criticized for forgetting to change the topic. I am not trying to be a "topic/subject line police." Just requesting a methodology for scanning topics of most interest when in a time crunch. Thanks again for understanding. MarthaFrom: Lea Ann Savage <lsavage@...> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 1:20 PMSubject: Re: request I do agree with Martha.I find myself forgetting to change subject lines - so no one should ever criticize if someone forgets - but if we all could work towards the goal of trying to remember to change subject lines, people could filter for topics they are interested in and batch deleted those they are not interested in.We always loose a hand full of members whenever a thread gets a LOT of discussion. I don't worry too much about the loss of members, because no list suits everyone all of the time, but I do hope that we can do what we can to make it easier for people who are on a lot of lists or who just hope to get some recipes now and then, to filter subject lines for the topics they are interested in so they can batch delete without fear that the topic has changed and they've just batch deleted something of great value (which this list offers on a regular basis :-) Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Martha wrote: Hi group,I have a request to you all. I love all the camaraderie and joking around on this list. So by no means am I asking you to curtail it. All I'm requesting is that you be aware of the subject line when replying to a post and alter it if necessary. I belong to several food related groups so reading through them all is time consuming. If we label the subject line appropriately, it really helps others and myself who have a time crunch, to better read the messages of utmost importance to us. As an example, in the last day or so there was a thread labeled "whole wheat pancakes." It quickly digressed to the topic of gadgets but the subject line never got changed. Now, PLEASE understand, I am not criticizing the digression. I too love the fun at this group. I would just like it if we could all be more aware and label subject lines accordingly. That way, if we are searching for recipes or discussions related to the Vitamix, we can skip over the unrelated topics for the time being and come back to them when we have more time available. I know some are more conscious of changing or adding to the subject line as necessary. I'm requesting that we all try to be more aware.I appreciate your consideration and again, BY NO MEANS am I asking you to squelch the fun. Not at all. I like to have fun too!!!MarthaP.S. I almost did not post this request because I do not want anyone to feel I am stepping on his/her toes. I am not addressing this request to use standard email etiquette to anyone in particular, just to the group as a whole. I would have sent this message to the list owner and had them handle it, if I knew who that person was. Thank you in advance. Let the fun continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Thank you for asking this. I didn't want to upset the magic of this group either, but it would be really helpful. Also when I was on digest (which is much easier for some including me) I found that people don't trim their posts so I was having to scroll through so much repetitive information. Not to add to the thought process, but if you could just include a brief snippet of what you're replying to instead of the entire post it would also be really helpful. Happy Vitamix'n Roxanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Sometimes trimming's appropriate and sometimes it's not (I think--I judge each post/response accordingly). What I do regardless is trim a lot of the space between lines a--I'm aware that vast acreage of empty space can be hell for those on digest so I leave at most two empty lines; for that matter, I find it annoying even on individual e-mails. I also trim off all of the -related stuff, i.e., the banners, etc. This can be a pain if you're not using plain editor but I'm usually able to accomplish it. Re: request Thank you for asking this. I didn't want to upset the magic of this group either, but it would be really helpful. Also when I was on digest (which is much easier for some including me) I found that people don't trim their posts so I was having to scroll through so much repetitive information. Not to add to the thought process, but if you could just include a brief snippet of what you're replying to instead of the entire post it would also be really helpful. Happy Vitamix'n .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I agree, . I try to trim when appropriate. If what I'm replying to would leave me with a huge cut and paste, then I'll just leave the message I'm replying to but I DO take out the stuff at the bottom AND the "To" line and "When" line. I live the "From" line as I think it's sometimes important to the reader to know. At least then, the reply is trimmed as much as possible. Ex. belowMarthaFrom: <kareningotham@...>Subject: Re: request Sometimes trimming's appropriate and sometimes it's not (I think--I judge each post/response accordingly). What I do regardless is trim a lot of the space between lines a--I'm aware that vast acreage of empty space can be hell for those on digest so I leave at most two empty lines; for that matter, I find it annoying even on individual e-mails. I also trim off all of the -related stuff, i.e., the banners, etc. This can be a pain if you're not using plain editor but I'm usually able to accomplish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 In a message dated 6/2/2011 2:40:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes: Thank you for asking this. I didn't want to upset the magic of this group either, but it would be really helpful. Also when I was on digest (which is much easier for some including me) I found that people don't trim their posts so I was having to scroll through so much repetitive information. I also get the digest and am not even complaining about people not trimming. What sometimes happens is that people hit "reply" on the digest and this sends the WHOLE list of 25 messages around again so you have to go through all of the messages again to get to the next new one. It does not happen as often as it used to but it is a chore when it does:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Well, I've been a multiple list owner and member of many for over 17 years now and I know my way around. All groups are different and so I just adjust accordingly. Roxanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Keep in mind that with many of the new gadgets and cell phones, trimming is not possible. I try to trim when I am at my computer, but cannot when I am on one of my assorted gadgets.From: Martha <mnatural22@...>Subject: Re: request" " < >Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 2:36 PM I agree, . I try to trim when appropriate. If what I'm replying to would leave me with a huge cut and paste, then I'll just leave the message I'm replying to but I DO take out the stuff at the bottom AND the "To" line and "When" line. I live the "From" line as I think it's sometimes important to the reader to know. At least then, the reply is trimmed as much as possible. Ex. belowMarthaFrom: <kareningotham@...>Subject: Re: request Sometimes trimming's appropriate and sometimes it's not (I think--I judge each post/response accordingly). What I do regardless is trim a lot of the space between lines a--I'm aware that vast acreage of empty space can be hell for those on digest so I leave at most two empty lines; for that matter, I find it annoying even on individual e-mails. I also trim off all of the -related stuff, i.e., the banners, etc. This can be a pain if you're not using plain editor but I'm usually able to accomplish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I don't find that request offensive at all, it's a great idea! I think most would agree they would like to know if a thread is continuing on the original topic or not, so you know whether to keep following it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 hi all, I want the lectures of dr hisham elmasry if someone can email them to me. thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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