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Hi Ricky!

Congratulations on getting started with BFL!

> Anyone from North Carolina on the program?

My wife and I live in Raleigh, North Carolina. Welcome to BFL,

neighbor! :-)

Energetically,

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Ricky,

I'm not in N.C., but I spent most of my childhood there. I will be coming back in July for my 20 year high school reunion.

Congratultions on accepting the challenge.

Cheryl C.

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Welcome Ricky. Have you measured body fat? Taken your before

pictures?

Joined the challenge? Join in and enjoy your journey. Congrats on

the

rapid weight loss. Kit

--- End forwarded message ---

Yes, I have taken my before pic and joined the challenge. I forgot

to take my body fat.

I'm looking forward to making it all the way thru and make it a part

of my life from now own.

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> Ricky,

>

> I'm not in N.C., but I spent most of my childhood there. I will be

coming back in July for my 20 year high school reunion.

> Congratultions on accepting the challenge.

>

> Cheryl C.

Thanks Cheryl for the Congrats! I'm pretty pumped about all of this!

Hopefully my muscles will follow and my fat will go away!!

Ricky Pollock

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> The body fat test is important to avoid being misguided by scale

weight.

I looked at some scales last night that gave your body fat too. Is

anyone using those, and if so, how do you think they work?

The ones I looked at were about $60.00.

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---In this post, I answer Ricky's question about body fat scales,

and offer some thoughts about methods of measuring body fat

precisely, vs. measuring at home approximately.---

Hi Ricky!

You wrote:

> I looked at some scales last night that gave your body fat too.

>Is anyone using those, and if so, how do you think they work?

> The ones I looked at were about $60.00.

You may be talking about bio-electrical impedance analysis

(BIA). Scales using BIA are intended to provide an estimate of

your body fat by running an electric current, sometimes through

the feet, and utilizing information you enter into the machine.

I recently read a thorough and excellent article in my wife's copy

of *Muscle & Fitness Hers* (Spring 2001, p. 75) about body fat

measurement. The author, Rowley, has a bachelor's

degree in dietetics, a master's in neuromuscular physiology and

pharmacology, and has done doctoral work in biochemistry.

In the article, Rowley points out that: " Unlike skinfold methods,

BIA is 'rigged' in that it uses low-tech input provided by you to

make the electrical part seem more accurate than it is. " He also

writes:

* * *

Pierson Jr., MD, professor of clinical medicine at St.

Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, Columbia University, New York,

states: " BIA measures allow for height, weight, gender, and

sometimes activity level to be written into the equation. These by

themselves give a pretty good estimate of fatness. The question

then becomes, 'What does the BIA add?' "

* * *

This doctor then suggests that the BIA element simply reduces

the likely error of the rest of the input, by perhaps 9 or 10% at

best. He does think it can be helpful for the purpose of

measuring *change* over time - but is not likely to be highly

accurate in measuring a person's precise body fat percentage.

The article points out that DEXA (Dual Energy X-Ray Analysis),

MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging), Underwater Weighing and

the Bod Pod are the most accurate, with the Bod Pod being

" almost unbeatable " in its combination of convenience, accuracy

and typical cost of a measurement. Of course, all four require the

use of expensive equipment and a qualified technician -

something you won't likely find at home. :-)

Whatever method you choose to measure your body fat at home,

to produce the most accurate results, remember to follow the

directions closely, and measure at the same time of day

whenever you measure. Also, remember that at home methods

are best at measuring change over time - not at precisely

estimating your exact body fat %. I know of several example of

cases in which people had measured at home, then measured

with a more precise test - only to discover that the home test

underestimated their body fat by as much as 10%.

I hope that helps, Ricky! :-)

Energetically,

---

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an unofficial Transformation Support site

and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE

by Cherita and Axel

http://fitmind.home.mindspring.com

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I have not used the scales and while they are intriguing from the ease of

measurement standpoint, I understand that many have had problems with

accuracy against other methods and variability in test results over the

course of the day or different days that could not be the results of swings

in bodyfat. I believe though that Deus is happy with his and has made it

work for him. Kit

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> I have not used the scales and while they are intriguing from the

ease of

> measurement standpoint, I understand that many have had problems

with

> accuracy against other methods and variability in test results over

the

> course of the day or different days that could not be the results

of swings

> in bodyfat. I believe though that Deus is happy with his and has

made it

> work for him. Kit

***************Reply****************

Wow, have you been doing this a while, you seem to know a lot about

the BML way of life and fitness in general.

Thanks Kit!

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>

> > I looked at some scales last night that gave your body fat too.

> >Is anyone using those, and if so, how do you think they work?

> > The ones I looked at were about $60.00.

>

> You may be talking about bio-electrical impedance analysis

> (BIA). Scales using BIA are intended to provide an estimate of

> your body fat by running an electric current, sometimes through

> the feet, and utilizing information you enter into the machine.

>

> I recently read a thorough and excellent article in my wife's copy

> of *Muscle & Fitness Hers* (Spring 2001, p. 75) about body fat

> measurement. The author, Rowley, has a bachelor's

> degree in dietetics, a master's in neuromuscular physiology and

> pharmacology, and has done doctoral work in biochemistry.

>

> In the article, Rowley points out that: " Unlike skinfold methods,

> BIA is 'rigged' in that it uses low-tech input provided by you to

> make the electrical part seem more accurate than it is. " He also

> writes:

>

> * * *

>

> Pierson Jr., MD, professor of clinical medicine at St.

> Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, Columbia University, New York,

> states: " BIA measures allow for height, weight, gender, and

> sometimes activity level to be written into the equation. These by

> themselves give a pretty good estimate of fatness. The question

> then becomes, 'What does the BIA add?' "

>

> * * *

>

> This doctor then suggests that the BIA element simply reduces

> the likely error of the rest of the input, by perhaps 9 or 10% at

> best. He does think it can be helpful for the purpose of

> measuring *change* over time - but is not likely to be highly

> accurate in measuring a person's precise body fat percentage.

>

> The article points out that DEXA (Dual Energy X-Ray Analysis),

> MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging), Underwater Weighing and

> the Bod Pod are the most accurate, with the Bod Pod being

> " almost unbeatable " in its combination of convenience, accuracy

> and typical cost of a measurement. Of course, all four require the

> use of expensive equipment and a qualified technician -

> something you won't likely find at home. :-)

>

> Whatever method you choose to measure your body fat at home,

> to produce the most accurate results, remember to follow the

> directions closely, and measure at the same time of day

> whenever you measure. Also, remember that at home methods

> are best at measuring change over time - not at precisely

> estimating your exact body fat %. I know of several example of

> cases in which people had measured at home, then measured

> with a more precise test - only to discover that the home test

> underestimated their body fat by as much as 10%.

>

> I hope that helps, Ricky! :-)

>

> Energetically,

>

>

>

> ---

> FMBC: Fitness and the Mind-Body Connection

> an unofficial Transformation Support site

> and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE

> by Cherita and Axel

> http://fitmind.home.mindspring.com

***********Reply*************

Thanks !

That helps. I'm amazed at how everyone is so helpful here. Thank

you all so much. It sure helps make it easier to come in here and

find an answer to a question.

One day I'll be helping others!

Ricky

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Ricky, I've been following BFL since early last January and have been

lifting weights only since October of the year before. I am not an expert

yet vouch for the program and it's many tools and this group as ways to help

you learn a lot about yourself and BFL. You can really progress quickly if

you want to learn and apply what you learn. Kit

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Anisa,

Welcome! You've come to the right place for answers and support.

BFL definitely works. Just check out hte before and after photos!

The best place to start is to read the book, and follow the

directions as closely as you can. Remember, the more often that you

can hit your tens, the faster that you will see results.

You and I are in the same boat. I did not have a lot to lose

either. I never stuck with a program longer than two weeks before I

found BFL last May. I started seeing results in just a couple of

weeks! My muscles were harder. I lost two sizes in my first twelve

week challenge. However, I only lost 5-6 pounds. My point is, do

not look at the scale! Go with what you feel and see, how your

clothes fit, and your before and after photos.

You'll do great. Read the book. Follow it. And post here whenever

you have questions. Also, let us know how you're doing!!

Good luck!

> hello, i recently got married (july 5 03) and my exercise routine

has

> considerably decreased and my figure has expanded. i heard about

body

> 4 life and i even bought the book (havent read it all yet). but i

> wanted to kno if it really workd and how i should go about getting

> started. i do currently work out but no regularly like i use to b4

i

> got married. any tips on getting and remaining motivated, thats my

> biggest prob, i just cant get motivated to work out regularly and

> since my clothes are starting to get tighter i want to go back to

my

> pre marriage figure. i only want to lose between 5-10 lbs. any

tips

> would be greatly appreciated. thanks alot!

>

> Anisa

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Hi !

Welcome to this group! It's filled with lots of smart people with a

variety of backgrounds and plenty of success stories.

The biggest advice I can give you is this: Perfection is overrated.

So you go 6 weeks without eating off plan and you screw up a meal, a

whole day, or even a full week. So what? Don't just quit. Just pick

up where you left off and continue on. I have yet to meet a person

who followed this lifestyle who hasn't slipped up and eaten

something bad, or missed a workout. This isn't a diet that you begin

and end. Think about it as a lifestyle. Chances are if you

have " screwed up " you have not done any irreversable damage. Just

move on, eat as clean as you can, workout, and try to do better for

your next meal.

I would also recommend that you go back and read messages on the

board. You could learn a lot from the successes and from others who

haven't stuck with it 100%.

, (aka Skwigg) one of the moderators of this board has a lot of

information on her website. I would recommend checking out her whole

site, but here are a few choice articles I think you'd benefit from

reading:

http://www.skwigg.com/id28.html " Cheaters Prosper "

http://www.skwigg.com/id33.html " Menu Rescue " to help with grocery

shopping

http://www.skwigg.com/id60.html " This is your brain on body for life "

http://www.skwigg.com/index.html her main site

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/Index.html A great way to track your

meals

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article88.html " The truth about stubborn

body fat "

Hope these things help! Keep posting and good luck!

-Ruth

>

> I am starting BFL on Monday--again. I've done this twice before--

the

> first time I made it six weeks then I went on Spring Break for a

week

> and totally ruined it and quit. Then after college my husband and

I

> moved to Florida (hello teeny swimsuits on everyone but me!) and I

> tried again, but people keep coming to see us here, and we take

them

> out to all the restaurants along the beaches and such, and--well--

I

> made it four weeks without giving in. Now that winter is

> approaching, I'm expecting fewer visitors and am trying again.

Any

> advice on how to just stick with it in spite of whatever comes

> up?!?!?!?! Please help!

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chrisit if you go to www.yogajournal.com you can find poses that you can and cannot do during your period. some poses help with cramps and back aches. i always do yoga i just avoid shoulderstands and other inverted poses during this time.

kassia

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Christi - have your tried your local (or county) library yet? Many of them have workouts you can test drive before you buy - I have even copied some. Walk Away the Pounds is nice for beginners looking to burn fat and tone up. Tamilee Webb is really good as well. You might try yard sales or your local paper's classifieds for exercise equipment. People are always selling barely used equipment for cheap!

Kathy

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Last night I got my first exercise video. I got Yoga Journals for Beginners. I also got a yoga mat, yoga brick (i think i should have got 2) and a yoga strap. I havent started it yet because a friend of mine who uses it says that it tells you to not do yoga if your on your menstrual cycle which I am. I guess Ill get started on Yoga for the first time ever once I get over this.

What Im wanting/needing to know is this...........Ive been considering getting either a Treadmill or an Eliptical. I havent used either before ( i know, weird. LOL) Which one is better for a beginner? Im 5'8" and about 220lbs so I have about 70lbs to lose. I am SOOOOOOOOO out of shape and havent really ever worked out before. Not even to a home video! Is getting a beginner aerobic video and doing yoga going to burn just as much fat as if I got either workout machine? I hope Im making sense. LOL I have done NONE of the above and I saw that the elipticals are less expensive so if working out to an aerobics and yoga video is just as good as walking on a treadmill or eliptical every day the Im in for saving the money! But I want to do whats going to burn the most fat! Lord knows I have TONS to shed! Thanks in advance!

Christi

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you can go to the BFL website and it ha s asection for sample meals for

the first week :)I started at 128-130 lbs..I'm on the last 3 weeks and

so, far I've lost 8-10 lbs

missubunk wrote:

> Hi , I'm getting ready to start the BFL challenge. Though I'm feeling

> overwhelmed with how to get started, I just want to make sure that I'm

> following the plan right. Any suggestions with the first week meal

> plan, and how much weight did everyone start with in the beginning

> when starting the wt training? Any suggestions would help.

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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you can go to the BFL website and it ha s asection for sample meals for

the first week :)I started at 128-130 lbs..I'm on the last 3 weeks and

so, far I've lost 8-10 lbs

missubunk wrote:

> Hi , I'm getting ready to start the BFL challenge. Though I'm feeling

> overwhelmed with how to get started, I just want to make sure that I'm

> following the plan right. Any suggestions with the first week meal

> plan, and how much weight did everyone start with in the beginning

> when starting the wt training? Any suggestions would help.

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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WOW! You have the food down pat! I think your plan looks EXCELLENT.

Now that you have a plan, work your plan!!! Let us know at the end of

the day how you did, then write tomorrow's plan.

> Hi, all I have been cruising this site for years, but today I am

> starting my fitness journey for real. Believe me I have started

many

> times, Ithink the past attempts I just made it too difficult and

> frankly was in denial about how bad I have let myself go (weighed

in

> at 210 this morning and even though I have been chubby for some

> time, I never had a waist almost as big as my hips - until now).

> Having been an athlete at an earlier point of my life, it has been

> difficult to relax and just take it slow. I turned 45 last week, it

> seems almost the day after, I started experiencing symptoms of type

> II diabetes and peri-menopause. I am the quinessential middle age

> workaholic. I smoke almost a pack a day, I drink too much, I sit

all

> day, I forget to eat most of the time, causing that huge appetite

at

> the end of the day. So, today,this is what I am going to do.

>

> Workout:

>

> Walk the dogs for 45 minutes at 6 (waiting for sun to come up)

> After hot shower, do a full body stretch (you can't believe how

> stiff and sick I feel)

>

> Food

>

> Breakfast

>

> one egg

> 5 whites

> 2 slices canadian bacon

> green onion

> .5 slice whole wheat toast

> green salsa

>

> mid morning snack

> 1 cup cottage cheese

> .25 cukes

> sprinkle with red pepper

>

> lunch

> 1 cup albacore tuna

> .5 tbsp mayo

> 2 cups green salad

> apple

>

> mid afternoon snack

> 3oz roasted turkey breast w/o skin

> apple

>

> dinner

> 3.5 oz (cooked) skinless chicken breast

> 2 cups green salad

> .5 brown rice(put in salad)

> rice vinegar for dressing

> 1 cup green beans

>

> evening snack

> grape tomatoes

> 1c cottage cheese

> .25 cup cukes

>

>

> 1622 calories

> 36 grams of fat

> 131 grams of carbs

> 191 of protein

>

> Drink 3 litres of water, one diet coke, 2 cups of coffee, smoke no

> more than 7 cigs.

>

> That is the plan for today. Comments are appreciated.

>

> I'll get to the store today for more fruit and veggie choices, this

> plan was made with what was already in the fridge. Decided to just

> start, I already know what to do.

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

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Hi ,

Congratulations on getting started! Your day looks really good. Your

protein portions might be a little big (the cottage cheese & tuna),

but play it by how you feel and how hungry you are. Some people do

really well with more protein and fewer carbs. As long as you're one

of those people, you're good. If you find that your energy is slumping

or you can't stand the sight of all the protein and vegetables, it's

fine to have oatmeal, whole wheat pasta, pita pizzas, a turkey

sandwich on a couple pieces of rye bread. If your plan is going to

work it has to be doable for life, so be creative and flexible and

make sure you actually enjoy what you're eating every day.

I also start every day with a dog walk and admire anybody who walks

more than one at a time, especially if they're big. Normally, the dogs

are wide awake and in control. I'm just the sleepy thing bumping along

behind them.

On 9/28/05, fcrdash <fcrdash@...> wrote:

> Hi, all I have been cruising this site for years, but today I am

> starting my fitness journey for real. Believe me I have started many

> times, Ithink the past attempts I just made it too difficult and

> frankly was in denial about how bad I have let myself go (weighed in

> at 210 this morning and even though I have been chubby for some

> time, I never had a waist almost as big as my hips - until now).

> Having been an athlete at an earlier point of my life, it has been

> difficult to relax and just take it slow. I turned 45 last week, it

> seems almost the day after, I started experiencing symptoms of type

> II diabetes and peri-menopause. I am the quinessential middle age

> workaholic. I smoke almost a pack a day, I drink too much, I sit all

> day, I forget to eat most of the time, causing that huge appetite at

> the end of the day. So, today,this is what I am going to do.

>

> Workout:

>

> Walk the dogs for 45 minutes at 6 (waiting for sun to come up)

> After hot shower, do a full body stretch (you can't believe how

> stiff and sick I feel)

>

> Food

>

> Breakfast

>

> one egg

> 5 whites

> 2 slices canadian bacon

> green onion

> .5 slice whole wheat toast

> green salsa

>

> mid morning snack

> 1 cup cottage cheese

> .25 cukes

> sprinkle with red pepper

>

> lunch

> 1 cup albacore tuna

> .5 tbsp mayo

> 2 cups green salad

> apple

>

> mid afternoon snack

> 3oz roasted turkey breast w/o skin

> apple

>

> dinner

> 3.5 oz (cooked) skinless chicken breast

> 2 cups green salad

> .5 brown rice(put in salad)

> rice vinegar for dressing

> 1 cup green beans

>

> evening snack

> grape tomatoes

> 1c cottage cheese

> .25 cup cukes

>

>

> 1622 calories

> 36 grams of fat

> 131 grams of carbs

> 191 of protein

>

> Drink 3 litres of water, one diet coke, 2 cups of coffee, smoke no

> more than 7 cigs.

>

> That is the plan for today. Comments are appreciated.

>

> I'll get to the store today for more fruit and veggie choices, this

> plan was made with what was already in the fridge. Decided to just

> start, I already know what to do.

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I used to walk my two dogs and my neighbor's dog (also my dog's daughter)

daily. I think I was 150 pounds and they were something like 210 put

together. I was also crazy enough to try to keep their leashes in order too.

Always fun when another dog came along - but thankfully I never got dragged,

just had to use all of my weight to hold them back. :)

Leah S

I also start every day with a dog walk and admire anybody who walks

> more than one at a time, especially if they're big. Normally, the dogs

> are wide awake and in control. I'm just the sleepy thing bumping along

> behind them.

>

>

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I suggest doing at least 12-weeks without supplements before deciding that

you need any.

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At 11:22 AM 2/3/2006, you wrote:

><SNIP>

>What would you ladies suggested for supplementation? What do you use?

>

>CLA? Betagen? Looking for ideas- What are your favorite protien drinks,

>meal replacements, bars??

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I've started doing IV Ca-EDTA chelation and Valtrex and LDN for one of my boys all at the same time. We just did genetics testing on them and found they should not be given sulfur products so we are probably going to use Yasko's chelation protocol since I can't use DMPS or DMSA (from what I understand-I'm still learning as we go).

Getting Started

Stan:Do you have a single post, or letter, on the full protocol that is recommended here? I am reviewing the files and seeing: the 750 mg of Valtrex daily (3 doses) along with references to nasal B12, LDN, anti-fungals, a vitamin A megadose for a few days, OLE, and virastop.What is the recommended order to introduce these interventions and how much? Are they all recommended?What about IV chelation. Is anyone doing IV chelation and the Valtrex protocol at the same time?Thanks.

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I've started doing IV Ca-EDTA chelation and Valtrex and LDN for one of my boys all at the same time. We just did genetics testing on them and found they should not be given sulfur products so we are probably going to use Yasko's chelation protocol since I can't use DMPS or DMSA (from what I understand-I'm still learning as we go).

Getting Started

Stan:Do you have a single post, or letter, on the full protocol that is recommended here? I am reviewing the files and seeing: the 750 mg of Valtrex daily (3 doses) along with references to nasal B12, LDN, anti-fungals, a vitamin A megadose for a few days, OLE, and virastop.What is the recommended order to introduce these interventions and how much? Are they all recommended?What about IV chelation. Is anyone doing IV chelation and the Valtrex protocol at the same time?Thanks.

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Where are you located? I am in Alaska, but would be more than happy to send you

one if you can't find one closer, if you are further away. Jeani

kombucha tea@...: tommyv75@...: Fri, 4 Jul

2008 21:51:41 +0000Subject: Getting Started

I want to get started and was wondering if anyone in the communitycould spare a

mother so that I can start making some babies, LOL! Iwould cover any shipping

costs of course.Thanks.

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