advice

[Guest guest]

>Can anyone give me advice to my husband (who works retail and is not allowedto eat at the front desk which he is at most of the time), can successfullybe on this diet. >

Can he take bathroom breaks? He can demand a 15 minute break in the morning and one in the afternoon. I believe it's a law (although most employers don't enforce it).

Cheryl C.

Cheryl C.

[Guest guest]

Is he allowed to drink?...He only has to eat every 2-3 hours....how many

hours does he work?

HE can be on this program though....where there is a will....there's a

way.....Tell him to talk to the boss, let him/her know what he's

doing....whenever you ask somebody for help.....9 times out of 10 you'll get

it.....smile....if not 100% of the time....people are some amazing

creatures...smile....Z....okay so we're not creatures...how about

animals?....

<Can anyone give me advice to my husband (who works retail and is not

allowed

to eat at the front desk which he is at most of the time), can successfully

be on this diet. <

[Guest guest]

Does he get a lunch break? If so, he can eat before he goes - have a shake

during a bathroom break (that he mixed at home and brought in a cooler),

have a decent lunch, have a shake at the next bathroom break (3 hours after

lunch) and then eat when he gets home. It can be done but it takes

planning.

Good luck!

Sara

>Can anyone give me advice to my husband (who works retail and is not

allowed

>to eat at the front desk which he is at most of the time), can successfully

>be on this diet. We would like to start Monday but so far have not

received

>any suggestions. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

reducing evening carbs can help fat loss and is a customary tweak. using

low Glycemic carbs for all meals except after your weight workout is

another. Instead of eliminating I would recommend just reducing the portion

slightly. But be sure your overall calories don't fall below BMR. Having

cottage cheese for the protein in your last meal is good to keep amino acids

in your system over the long evening to avoid catabolism of muscles. Just

some tips. Six balanced meals is fine as well and what is recommended in

the book.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/22/01 8:40:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

texasbluebonnets@... writes:

> I worik in a Special Ed classroom with a little guy who has the dual

> diagnosis of DS and Autism. I've been with him for 4 years now. he also

is

> in second grade.

I appreciate your response . Our kids are not graded. I don't even know

what you Americans are defining as self-contained classrooms. My beef is that

I have in front of me a bundle of photocopies of U.S. content that has no

significance to this kids life much less his needs! Every school just wings

it. There is no real planning of material for the individual students. Seven

years ago he was working from a grade two book. Three years ago they wanted

to sit him in a grade eleven classroom. They know they have alot of parents

who are happy to delude themselves into believing that those kinds of credits

earned have some value. There are people who seem to feel like a diploma, a

piece of paper, somehow validates them as parents. I am not interested in

playing this game. The old crew attempted to co-operate and give him things

that had some relevance. My 23 year old just came and looked at this package

and he is as angry as I am. This woman is obviously new. Our special

education assistants are not always trained well. I can see on some pages

things Jordan would know and has turned right off her so she thinks he

doesn't know. In looking at her notes to me...I can well see why. I have for

years spent days every week in his classrooms. Surely you have heard parents

lament that we don't have time to train every person that will float through

the child's life? When you get a good teacher, the Board will block her from

further training and development. The entire system here is in flux. Teacher

moral has been the pits..but I won't get into Ontario politics. At the

elementary level you can choose to keep your child in the same class with the

same teacher for years...but when the kids move on there is no continuity for

skills development. Anyone who would look at these papers who has any

knowledge of mentally-handicapped people would understand how ridiculous this

is. Individual program planning happens at a

meeting once a year...That is to say it gets written on a piece of paper once

a year. Whether it gets implemented or whether any two people know how to

implement it is questionable in alot of schools. Speak up you other Canadians

on this board!!!! Do you think it's important for ANY of your kids to learn

about Washington (let alone these kids!)? Or is it more relevant to

teach a person to communicate about the things in their everyday lives?( BTW

If Jordan were Pulitzer Prize material in grade two 'for real' and on his way

to Oxford in the distant future I would be at Queen's Park over U.S. material

over Canadian content!) This is a Board that thwarted the former teachers

from having him on a computer and program designed by the Bloorview MacMillan

Centre that is suddenly

pushing this at him??? I was hoping Canadians would respond because they

might know what the situation is even if they aren't in this city.

Jordan isn't reacting to a difference of people ...The rooms are

circuses...with people coming and going and kids running and stimming etc.

The physical space isn't even condusive to 'educating.' Jordan is used to

that. He does not have a problem if he has a teacher who knows what she's

doing and if the work has any semblance to his reality. Never mind. When I

saw that all fall the place was just a babysitting service, I asked for an

assessment at Bloorview. It's slated for March 7th. (This woman has refused

my invitation to attend) As for what you said about routine..I understand

that in some cases. It is just not applicable here. , if you're

reading this, I hope you have better luck in a smaller city. I've heard the

Board there is very good..so let's hope it is. Thank you . I do

appreciate your comments and I apologize for ranting and rambling. I'm a

single parent with no one to yell at! LOL Dodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Dodi,

A " self-contained " classroom means that everything the kids need on a

day-to-day (ie. bathroom, kitchen sink, etc.) is located within the classroom

and the various support services (adaptive p.e., speech, etc.) are provided

within the classroom. In our school, the kids are pulled out of the

classroom for " inclusive opportunities " such as an assembly or music class.

Some kids are pulled out every day to spend time in another class. In our

case, it happens to be another special day class where the kids don't have

the severity of delay typical of the kids in 's class. I would say

that the majority of kids in 's class do not have an " academic "

program. Their IEPs concentrate mainly on " independent living skills " such

as toileting, hygiene, feeding issues, social skills, and possibly job

training with a coach. I'm talking about simple, repetitive jobs like

sorting things, etc. Typically, kids in the higher functioning classes are

learning to read, do simple math, etc. a more academic program. That's why

I said you need to look at your child and decide what it is you want him to

learn. has been in classrooms where the teacher wanted all of the

kids to practice making letters. Well doesn't have the slightest

concept of what a letter is, much less the inclination to want to make one.

He doesn't even scribble! You know what your child's level of learning is

and you need to develop a program from that point. I have found that much

easier to do in a " self-contained " classroom because the staff tends to be

more flexible with regard to " teaching " . If were at a different

stage developmentally, I would be taking a different approach. Do you see

what I mean? I think we all struggle with what we want in our kid's

educational plan. I know when first started school, I looked to the

educators to give me the answers with respect to what he needed,

educationally speaking. Over the years, I have learned that most of the

time, the educators don't have the answers and they are struggling in the

dark with the rest of us. There just isn't any foolproof key as to how to

" unlock " the secrets of our kids learning!

Terry

[Guest guest]

right now nthan gets pulled at certain times of the day too to attend a

resource classroom where many others go too even the reg kids who need help

in reaking or math, and he has set times when he works one on one with the

special ed teacher, but otherwise his associate does rest of one and one, he

works most of his academics on the computer, he's a computer fanatic and

learns quickly this way and can type but not write yet so i requestied

computer curricullum this year and the school spent over a grand on some its

working well. But nathan only misses reg third grade stuff as science or

math that would confuse him he still attends all the specials with them and

health class too, and some science videos he gets some info from that he

understands and during reading time he reads his books while they read their

own books too. so right now this year thing have been working well,

hopefully nest year we are planning a closed or classic classroom setting

for him the school is working on setting one up for the upper elelmentry

kids this way he can work on all his subjects at his level and still go to

specials with peers if functioning well enough on their level, plus when he

does his outings the reg ed kids wont be so jealous they have to stay in

school cause he wont ve leaving their classroom anymore so it works both

ways the kids are soo busy at this age they rarely have time to have a

" buddy " for the day where they play games or read or work with nathan this

has workd well in the past but this year really starting to work at school,

kids going their own ways, they still love nathan and oftne say hi to him or

try to get him to play so our situation will work very nicely. sorry soo

long, its so hard to find a stopping point. shawna.

Re: Re: advice

> Hi Dodi,

> A " self-contained " classroom means that everything the kids need on a

> day-to-day (ie. bathroom, kitchen sink, etc.) is located within the

classroom

> and the various support services (adaptive p.e., speech, etc.) are

provided

> within the classroom. In our school, the kids are pulled out of the

> classroom for " inclusive opportunities " such as an assembly or music

class.

> Some kids are pulled out every day to spend time in another class. In our

> case, it happens to be another special day class where the kids don't have

> the severity of delay typical of the kids in 's class. I would say

> that the majority of kids in 's class do not have an " academic "

> program. Their IEPs concentrate mainly on " independent living skills "

such

> as toileting, hygiene, feeding issues, social skills, and possibly job

> training with a coach. I'm talking about simple, repetitive jobs like

> sorting things, etc. Typically, kids in the higher functioning classes

are

> learning to read, do simple math, etc. a more academic program. That's

why

> I said you need to look at your child and decide what it is you want him

to

> learn. has been in classrooms where the teacher wanted all of the

> kids to practice making letters. Well doesn't have the slightest

> concept of what a letter is, much less the inclination to want to make

one.

> He doesn't even scribble! You know what your child's level of learning is

> and you need to develop a program from that point. I have found that much

> easier to do in a " self-contained " classroom because the staff tends to be

> more flexible with regard to " teaching " . If were at a different

> stage developmentally, I would be taking a different approach. Do you see

> what I mean? I think we all struggle with what we want in our kid's

> educational plan. I know when first started school, I looked to

the

> educators to give me the answers with respect to what he needed,

> educationally speaking. Over the years, I have learned that most of the

> time, the educators don't have the answers and they are struggling in the

> dark with the rest of us. There just isn't any foolproof key as to how to

> " unlock " the secrets of our kids learning!

> Terry

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jen-

It was nice to hear your encouraging news, as I am on W6D1C1(yeah!) and

really don' t feel I am seeing the results I had hoped for. My goal is to

reach 14% BF at the end of the challenge (am 17% now) and as of yet, all I

see and feel is more muscle. I feel like I look " beefier. " It's a weird

feeling and I don't quite know what to make of it, to tell you the truth!

I'll stick with it, though. :-)

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jen-

It was nice to hear your encouraging news, as I am on W6D1C1(yeah!) and

really don' t feel I am seeing the results I had hoped for. My goal is to

reach 14% BF at the end of the challenge (am 17% now) and as of yet, all I

see and feel is more muscle. I feel like I look " beefier. " It's a weird

feeling and I don't quite know what to make of it, to tell you the truth!

I'll stick with it, though. :-)

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kit!

It was my understanding that my bodyfat was right around 20% when I started.

I got it tested by another trainer at the four week mark who gave me the

17.5%.

I've calculated my BMR and caloric intake for an approx 1.5 lb fat loss per

week.

I (and my family) do notice a significant difference in my upper body, and I

feel stronger, but that's about it. I don't feel leaner and my clothes fit

about the same.

I took my 5 week pics so I'l be able to see it on paper (it's SO hard to see

the differences myself!!)

Sometimes I worry about eating six meals if I'm not hungry, but it's my

understanding that if they are SMALL meals then there won't be a problem...

until the 12 week mark, I'll stay steady! Thanks for the thoughts, they help

more than you know! :-)

[Guest guest]

Glenda,

Do you know of any estrogen " zappers " available? :-)

[Guest guest]

Kit,

Thanks for the vote of confidence that my results will appear if I stay the

course. This is hard sometimes when I can't see much, despite the effort (and

heart!) that I put into the challenge! I'll keep " plodding " along and

staying consistent with the plan! Have a great BFL day tomorrow, the

beginning of your final six weeks! (and hey, you are the furthest away from

the weekend that you could possibly be, so there aren't any hurdles to jump

in the near future! :-))

[Guest guest]

Hi, Tina!

That's an interesting point that you made, and you were really smart to

discover that important info-especially with some of the dietary restrictions

I know you've been concerned about in the past! Have you found that it

helped?

Thanks so much for the tip-I'll look into that tomorrow (and go back to the

supplement store where I shop at least 24 times a day!) I remember being

" hooked " on Viactivs two summers ago..I had them with my coffee in the

mornings!!! :-) Hey , what do I have to lose but fat? And I'll certainly

gain a little chocolate in my day!

Thanks, Tina !! We'll work through this with perseverance!(and the help of a

little chocolate) :-)

[Guest guest]

Stick with it and you WILL see progress. Dang men always see results

faster than us women, because they start out with higher percentage

of muscle than us. One thing you may want to check is your nutrition

because you may not be eating *enough* since you are doing extra

cardio 4-5 days per week. Keep at it. Lots of people don't see

significant results until after 6 weeks, or after 8 weeks even! It

was after week 7 on my first challenge that I saw the most results.

You are doing fantastic, following the program so closely, you are

going to see some amazing results, just stick with it!!!

Jen B.

> Hi -

>

> I am new to the group and need some perspective from those of you

who

> have more experience with the program. I started BFL on Jan. 29th

> with my husband. He has lost 17 lbs already and gone down one size

> and I have lost about 4 and my clothes are not feeling much

> different. I follow the program religiously. I eat six meals a

day

> (2-3 of them Myoplex shakes) and pay close attention to my portion

> sizes, I exercise 1st thing in the morning and wait one hour before

> eating....all the things I am supposed to be doing. I also do

> martial arts 3 times per week and throw in an aerobics class or a

> hike 1-2 times per week. I do feel stronger than I did prior to

> starting the program and I am committed to sticking it out for the

> entire 12 weeks but I'm about 1/2 way into it and am no where near

to

> 1/2 way where I want to be at the end. I'm really not looking for

> a " quick fix " - I'm just feeling a little discouraged because

weight

> loss was my number one reason for doing it and would like to see

some

> results in that area. I probably should say that I have a very

high

> percentage of body fat (35-40%) from years of yo-yo dieting and

lack

> of exercise.

>

> Thanks for any advice!

[Guest guest]

Depending upon how intense your martial arts and hiking sessions are,

it's conceivable that you are overtraining and putting the kabosh on

any muscle gains. (I'm assuming that you meant in your post that you

do those activities in addition to the 20 minute aerobics solution 3

times per week) Refer to the Hussman site (www.hussman.com/eas) for

information related to the optimal amount of cardio activity to lose

fat while supporting muscle gains, and why more cardio is not

necessarily better. Just some thoughts, I'm sure the more

experienced BFL'ers will have more input.

Jarel

> Hi -

>

> I am new to the group and need some perspective from those of you

who

> have more experience with the program. I started BFL on Jan. 29th

> with my husband. He has lost 17 lbs already and gone down one size

> and I have lost about 4 and my clothes are not feeling much

> different. I follow the program religiously. I eat six meals a

day

> (2-3 of them Myoplex shakes) and pay close attention to my portion

> sizes, I exercise 1st thing in the morning and wait one hour before

> eating....all the things I am supposed to be doing. I also do

> martial arts 3 times per week and throw in an aerobics class or a

> hike 1-2 times per week. I do feel stronger than I did prior to

> starting the program and I am committed to sticking it out for the

> entire 12 weeks but I'm about 1/2 way into it and am no where near

to

> 1/2 way where I want to be at the end. I'm really not looking for

> a " quick fix " - I'm just feeling a little discouraged because

weight

> loss was my number one reason for doing it and would like to see

some

> results in that area. I probably should say that I have a very

high

> percentage of body fat (35-40%) from years of yo-yo dieting and

lack

> of exercise.

>

> Thanks for any advice!

[Guest guest]

Have you checked your Body fat%, you may not be losing weight because

you are converting fat into muscle so it may help you to get your BF%

measured now, and then get it taken at the end of your 12 weeks and

compare the two. I don't think weight scale is as important as Body

composition, but our society has a fixation with the scale. Just look

at it this way if you don't lose one pound on the scale but your body-

fat drops from 35-40% to around 25-30%, wouldn't that make you feel

good to know you lost 10% body fat.

hope this helps

bill

> Hi -

>

> I am new to the group and need some perspective from those of you

who

> have more experience with the program. I started BFL on Jan. 29th

> with my husband. He has lost 17 lbs already and gone down one size

> and I have lost about 4 and my clothes are not feeling much

> different. I follow the program religiously. I eat six meals a

day

> (2-3 of them Myoplex shakes) and pay close attention to my portion

> sizes, I exercise 1st thing in the morning and wait one hour before

> eating....all the things I am supposed to be doing. I also do

> martial arts 3 times per week and throw in an aerobics class or a

> hike 1-2 times per week. I do feel stronger than I did prior to

> starting the program and I am committed to sticking it out for the

> entire 12 weeks but I'm about 1/2 way into it and am no where near

to

> 1/2 way where I want to be at the end. I'm really not looking for

> a " quick fix " - I'm just feeling a little discouraged because

weight

> loss was my number one reason for doing it and would like to see

some

> results in that area. I probably should say that I have a very

high

> percentage of body fat (35-40%) from years of yo-yo dieting and

lack

> of exercise.

>

> Thanks for any advice!

[Guest guest]

Has your bodyfat changed? How do you measure? have you checked BMR at the

hussman site http://www.hussman.com/eas Measure the calories in your diet

for a few days and eat your typical diet and let us know. You may be one of

the many that show no sign until week 7 or 8. You first lose fat within the

muscles, especially the legs and then under the surface of the skin

(subcutaneous). Once you lose the intramuscular fat then the aerobics goes

to work on the rest of your fat stores. Typically for a woman it goes from

all over with an emphasis on the top down so that hips and abdominals are

last. Make sure with the hussman exercise under the calories section that

you ensure you are eating enough. You do not want to be below your BMR.

Stay strong! Kit

[Guest guest]

If you are stronger and in better shape from cardio you are going in the

right direction.

[Guest guest]

2.5% over four weeks is good progress regardless of clothes. My concern

about eating is more that you underfeed than overfeed if you are following

the portion rule without consciously fudging. Many people try to cut

portions or meals to obtain results which is usually a big mistake. You

must eat to lose! If you are eating above your BMR and have estimated your

portions to achieve a 1.5 lb a week loss, then stay the course, you are

doing fine. You'll see the results with a steady course. Kit

[Guest guest]

*perk* Chocolate??? did sumbuddy say CHOCOLATE!!?? LOLI have been taking calcium/magnesium tabs, but I think chocolate chews would be much nicer to swallow down....hehe, I think Ill go get me some LOL~~

Hi, Tina! That's an interesting point that you made, and you were really smart to discover that important info-especially with some of the dietary restrictions I know you've been concerned about in the past! Have you found that it helped? Thanks so much for the tip-I'll look into that tomorrow (and go back to the supplement store where I shop at least 24 times a day!) I remember being "hooked" on Viactivs two summers ago..I had them with my coffee in the mornings!!! :-) Hey , what do I have to lose but fat? And I'll certainly gain a little chocolate in my day!Thanks, Tina !! We'll work through this with perseverance!(and the help of a little chocolate) :-)

[Guest guest]

***yep, that cup is half full! :=)

Kit,

Thanks for the vote of confidence that my results will appear if I stay the

course. This is hard sometimes when I can't see much, despite the effort

(and

heart!) that I put into the challenge! I'll keep " plodding " along and

staying consistent with the plan! Have a great BFL day tomorrow, the

beginning of your final six weeks! (and hey, you are the furthest away from

the weekend that you could possibly be, so there aren't any hurdles to jump

in the near future! :-))

[Guest guest]

***yep, that cup is half full! :=)

Kit,

Thanks for the vote of confidence that my results will appear if I stay the

course. This is hard sometimes when I can't see much, despite the effort

(and

heart!) that I put into the challenge! I'll keep " plodding " along and

staying consistent with the plan! Have a great BFL day tomorrow, the

beginning of your final six weeks! (and hey, you are the furthest away from

the weekend that you could possibly be, so there aren't any hurdles to jump

in the near future! :-))

[Guest guest]

Be patient. Most woman who have been Yo-Yo dieters find it takes a bit longer for them to notice significant results.

Cheryl C.

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[Guest guest]

Mark,

Just stick with the program, and those love handles will come off.

You have made great progress already, you should be proud of

yourself! Lots of people see the most progress in the last half of

their program, so just be patient, keep hitting those weights hard,

and stick to the nutrition as outlined in the book. Congratulatiosn

on your progress so far, and keep us posted.

Jen B.

> So far I have lost 11.5lbs. I went from 208 to 196.5lbs. I still

> want to lose the love handles though. However, I am concerned I may

> start losing muscle or getting too skinny. What can I do to

increase

> the definition or muscle mass? Should I increase carbs or protein?

> I am into my fifth week.

> Thanks!

> Mark, La.

[Guest guest]

Mark,

Just stick with the program, and those love handles will come off.

You have made great progress already, you should be proud of

yourself! Lots of people see the most progress in the last half of

their program, so just be patient, keep hitting those weights hard,

and stick to the nutrition as outlined in the book. Congratulatiosn

on your progress so far, and keep us posted.

Jen B.

> So far I have lost 11.5lbs. I went from 208 to 196.5lbs. I still

> want to lose the love handles though. However, I am concerned I may

> start losing muscle or getting too skinny. What can I do to

increase

> the definition or muscle mass? Should I increase carbs or protein?

> I am into my fifth week.

> Thanks!

> Mark, La.