hello

[Guest guest]

Hi Karma, I am impressed you can jump rope. That I have read is one of the

best cardios you can do....but I can only do 3 or 4 jumps and I am worn out. :-(

On the ball I do sit-ups , legs and arms, and a WHOLE lot of rolling on my

back , it feels so good.

Besides here at the computer, I really like doing them in the car too. Isn't

it amazing how much people who like the same things are drawn together, even

over a computer. Coni

Hello

>

>

> I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball,

> yoga , and

> breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this AM

> but it is

> amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's

> Reflexology tape will

> do, I feel 100% better. Coni

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks Molly, I ate better today. It is so true, you are what you eat! Coni

Re: Hello

LifeLift

> Glad to hear you're feeling better Coni.

> Molly : O )

>

>

>

> >

> > I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball,

> yoga , and

> > breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this

> AM but it is

> > amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's Reflexology

> tape will

> > do, I feel 100% better. Coni

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used to work out on the ball, but it takes up so much space I let it get put

in the basement. Maybe I need to dig it out again.

Yep, I jump rope. I even double dutch with the kids. I can jump with a rope

inside the double ropes. Fun, fun, fun. I hope I'm never too old to jump.

46 and still going strong! :-)

Karma

Hello

>

>

> I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball,

> yoga , and

> breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this AM

> but it is

> amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's

> Reflexology tape will

> do, I feel 100% better. Coni

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Karma, You make me want to buy one and try again! I am 56 but I think age is

just a number.

LOL ~~coni

Hello

> >

> >

> > I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball,

> > yoga , and

> > breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this

> AM

> > but it is

> > amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's

> > Reflexology tape will

> > do, I feel 100% better. Coni

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's terrific Coni!!!! Isn't the ball fun!!!!

How did you like our torrential rain today? Did you get it in Ind. as

bad as we did here in Cinti? We were at church tonight and it came

down in buckets.

Love ya!

Liz

>

> I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball, yoga , and

> breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this AM but it is

> amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's Reflexology tape

will

> do, I feel 100% better. Coni

>

[Guest guest]

It sure did Liz!! On and of all day and night! Coni

Re: Hello

LifeLift

> That's terrific Coni!!!! Isn't the ball fun!!!!

>

> How did you like our torrential rain today? Did you get it in

> Ind. as

> bad as we did here in Cinti? We were at church tonight and it

> came

> down in buckets.

>

> Love ya!

> Liz

>

>

>

> >

> > I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball,

> yoga , and

> > breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this

> AM but it is

> > amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's Reflexology

> tape

> will

> > do, I feel 100% better. Coni

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lol i was impressed when i thought she was just turning the ropes

now iam in awe .I couldn't jump rope when i was 6 much less now lol.

Molly : O )

>

> Hi Karma, I am impressed you can jump rope. That I have read is

one of the best cardios you can do....but I can only do 3 or 4 jumps

and I am worn out. :-(

> On the ball I do sit-ups , legs and arms, and a WHOLE lot of

rolling on my back , it feels so good.

> Besides here at the computer, I really like doing them in the car

too. Isn't it amazing how much people who like the same things are

drawn together, even over a computer. Coni

>

>

> Hello

> >

> >

> > I hope everyone is having a great day! I did my ball,

> > yoga , and

> > breathing with reflexology. I was a little queasy this AM

> > but it is

> > amazing what a little fennel tea and Rashelle's

> > Reflexology tape will

> > do, I feel 100% better. Coni

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Becky, thank you for your exceptionally interesting letter! Your Wild Food

Gathering

Summit sounds fantastic and I'll do my best to be there for it. I LOVE THIS KIND

OF THING!

I've actually done this before back when a good Native American friend of mine

conducted

such an event. We divided our camping group (it was a gathering of herbalists

actually, as

well as kids and family) into teams that foraged, dug roots, picked berries, and

(the group

I led) hunted crawdads! We then prepared everything and cooked it together, then

had the

wild foods feast!

As in The Omnivore's Dilemma, for his " ultimate " meal that he hand-gathered,

everyone

who participated in our feast was amazed by two main things, 1) how long it

takes to

gather food, especially when you are usedf to hopping in the car to drive to the

coop, and

2) how absolutely delicious everything was. You could also add a third shared

thought,

HOW FUN IT WAS!

Thank you so much for joining our discussion group, and also for staging your

Wild Food

event. I hope that many people from Trad Foods MN can join the fun, I can tell

already, it

will be an UNFORGETTABLE EXPERIENCE!

I can still sing you my crawdaddy calling song!

Will

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Becky.

What is migwitch?

Carol F

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I can still sing you my crawdaddy calling song!

>

> Will

>

> I¹d like to learn that song! We have lots of crawfish in the creek and

> hundreds of babies. My little pal (who is Ojibwa) took an adult home for a

> pet for two weeks, then will release her. She also took 5 babies. I think my

> pals dad took some adults to eat. The adult crawparent promptly ate the

> babies, so I teased my pal that they are lacking in parenting skills. Ha ha.

> I have a minnow trap in the creek and that¹s how I caught them. How did you

> prepare them?

>

> One fun thing for me this spring is that the beaver dig out and make the creek

> deeper. Last year we mainly had suckers coming up to spawn. This year we had

> northerns, crappies and sunfish. Some of the northerns were huge. We have a

> beaver deceiver in the culvert and a pipe that runs from inside the culvert,

> through their dam, to the other side of the creek, a wire basket around where

> the pipe leads out. Many of the northern were so big that they didn¹t use the

> pipe, they jumped the beaver dam. It was fun to see the grandmother fish use

> the creek to spawn. We also have a pair of river otter that I think are

> making babies now. We didn¹t have them before because the creek was shallow

> and didn¹t support enough fish, which otter need to survive.

>

> I wrote the DNR and suggested we continue to let the beaver come back. Their

> dams also filter silt and remove pesticides. I personally think beaver are to

> valuable to eat at this point in history. They are considered to be the

> ³sacred center² by Indians. Their pools keep water for the forest and create

> habitat for all kinds of critters. It might be important to consider with

> climate change.

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/17/07 2:42:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tracymeehan@... writes:

> Hi Cher! Welcome to the group.

>

>

>

Wow! Thanks ..I feel welcomed!

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cher! Welcome to the group.

Quoting cherswares@...:

> Im new to the group and like to grow garden herbs. I interested in learning

> about soap but dont currently make any, but have bought hand made

> soaps at the

> farmers market. I enjoy and appreciate anything hand made. Cher

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I love CHER! And welcome Cher to the group! Where from?

Marisol in Brooklyn

cherswares@... wrote: Im new to the group

and like to grow garden herbs. I interested in learning

about soap but dont currently make any, but have bought hand made soaps at the

farmers market. I enjoy and appreciate anything hand made. Cher

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/17/2007 2:02:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

cherswares@... writes:

Im new to the group and like to grow garden herbs. I interested in learning

about soap but dont currently make any,

Welcome, Cher. When you get ready to learn about soapmaking, I'm sure we

can point you to books and sites to help you get started. Of course, we'd be

happy to answer any questions you have, too. :-) Where in NY are you from?

I grow a lot of herbs, too, and have just finished digging up a bunch of

soapwort to try to make cleansers with.

Beth

_www.soapandgarden.com_ (http://www.soapandgarden.com/)

www.saponifier.com

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[Guest guest]

Sounds interesting......But I'm a purist and prefer

glass. Does anyone else know about this?

--- marshacrt@... wrote:

> 6-6-07

> not sure I'm at the right place...have you heard

> anything about GT

> Dave's FDA approved high grade PLASTIC brewing

> system????

> please advise

> Marsha

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sounds interesting......But I'm a purist and prefer

glass. Does anyone else know about this?

--- marshacrt@... wrote:

> 6-6-07

> not sure I'm at the right place...have you heard

> anything about GT

> Dave's FDA approved high grade PLASTIC brewing

> system????

> please advise

> Marsha

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you, Raven and Maurice. I appreciate the welcome.

>

> I can think of one advantage I've had over NTs I've known: since

I'm mostly just going

> through the motions of emotional response, actually hurting my

feelings is nearly

> impossible. In a disagreement, if once someone has shown me the

reason why something

> happened, and I'm satisfied that I have all the needed information,

any anger I've had

> about it generally vanishes, and I push on. The idea of having

still having to cool down

> emotionally, that time is needed separately to deal with involved

emotions, doesn't make a

> great deal of sense to me.

>

> I explain to someone, for instance " This is why so-and-so did

whatever, and this was the

> very positive thing he was trying to do for you in the process

instead of trying to hurt you. "

> The usual, repeated answer is, " But he hurt me when he did that. "

But if he was being high-handed or authoritarian, then his intentions

are no excuse. Everyone has a moral responsibility never to override

others' wishes with your own plans for them. So if someone has done

that, the reason for hanging onto hurt is to fight back against it,

to struggle to avenge it, to deprive the offender of the obscene

victory of seeing you accept what they gave you.

This is the position with my schoolteachers, who were the definitive

trauma scarring my life. That the outcome was their utter hideous

public humiliation at seeing me not fulfil their confident

predictions for my future, the consequent destruction of their power

to continue to serve the gifted children movement or win support for

any more of its boasts, and the school's decline and closure, was

cold revenge and was a vital uplifting moral good done for child

protection. Struggling for justice and hanging onto hurt were the

same thing.

Showing how the real purpose of 3000 years of acceptist and anti-

revenge propaganda in psychology has been to demotivate us from

having political passions. A fact I have a passion about by

itself ! :-)

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you, Raven and Maurice. I appreciate the welcome.

>

> I can think of one advantage I've had over NTs I've known: since

I'm mostly just going

> through the motions of emotional response, actually hurting my

feelings is nearly

> impossible. In a disagreement, if once someone has shown me the

reason why something

> happened, and I'm satisfied that I have all the needed information,

any anger I've had

> about it generally vanishes, and I push on. The idea of having

still having to cool down

> emotionally, that time is needed separately to deal with involved

emotions, doesn't make a

> great deal of sense to me.

>

> I explain to someone, for instance " This is why so-and-so did

whatever, and this was the

> very positive thing he was trying to do for you in the process

instead of trying to hurt you. "

> The usual, repeated answer is, " But he hurt me when he did that. "

But if he was being high-handed or authoritarian, then his intentions

are no excuse. Everyone has a moral responsibility never to override

others' wishes with your own plans for them. So if someone has done

that, the reason for hanging onto hurt is to fight back against it,

to struggle to avenge it, to deprive the offender of the obscene

victory of seeing you accept what they gave you.

This is the position with my schoolteachers, who were the definitive

trauma scarring my life. That the outcome was their utter hideous

public humiliation at seeing me not fulfil their confident

predictions for my future, the consequent destruction of their power

to continue to serve the gifted children movement or win support for

any more of its boasts, and the school's decline and closure, was

cold revenge and was a vital uplifting moral good done for child

protection. Struggling for justice and hanging onto hurt were the

same thing.

Showing how the real purpose of 3000 years of acceptist and anti-

revenge propaganda in psychology has been to demotivate us from

having political passions. A fact I have a passion about by

itself ! :-)

[Guest guest]

Maurice,

Very likely, in several instances I can remember, the person hanging onto the

hurt DID see

what was said by others as authoritarian. I can remember such actually being

said later,

although in different words. Thank you for that insight.

I'm glad the thing with the school worked out to your satisfaction.You seem to

have had a

valid cause.

I suppose, though, that I've never really trusted overt passion, or any kind of

remotely

violent emotion, especially in myself. Too often, I've found out later that I

didn't have the

whole picture, so the reason for the passion just wasn't there from the start

except in my

head. I often think, quoting Abe Lincoln, " It's better to keep one's mouth shut

and be

thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. " One might think that,

since I've

" removed all doubt " far more often than is comfortable, I might by now have

developed an

immunity to the resulting embarrassment. No such luck. I just don't have much

stomach

for any kind of fight.

Koldune

> But if he was being high-handed or authoritarian, then his intentions

> are no excuse. Everyone has a moral responsibility never to override

> others' wishes with your own plans for them. So if someone has done

> that, the reason for hanging onto hurt is to fight back against it,

> to struggle to avenge it, to deprive the offender of the obscene

> victory of seeing you accept what they gave you.

>

> This is the position with my schoolteachers, who were the definitive

> trauma scarring my life. That the outcome was their utter hideous

> public humiliation at seeing me not fulfil their confident

> predictions for my future, the consequent destruction of their power

> to continue to serve the gifted children movement or win support for

> any more of its boasts, and the school's decline and closure, was

> cold revenge and was a vital uplifting moral good done for child

> protection. Struggling for justice and hanging onto hurt were the

> same thing.

>

> Showing how the real purpose of 3000 years of acceptist and anti-

> revenge propaganda in psychology has been to demotivate us from

> having political passions. A fact I have a passion about by

> itself ! :-)

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm glad the thing with the school worked out to your satisfaction.

Appreciated. Of course, what they did still casts an unsatisfactory

shadow over the state of my life, i.e. not having any sort of normal

career history. This has only improved partly in slow steps, as life

moves ever further away from my past, it has eventually become safe

to assert special needs without having my school record taken as part

of the picture any more. At present I'm working in a veg garden which

is a project of remedial " recovery " work placements, it's a nice

place in people terms, especially for one radical-libertarian

psychology student who I have met there, but the pay is only like

social security not like a proper job's pay.

The job I tell the employment/careers services I have an automatic

right to before my needs can be assessed completely, is to have my

thoughts on educational outcomes published. The trouble with working

in the garden, is, it counts as a provisional solution for me for the

time being, there is no time limit on that, and it allows them to

avoid my demand to be published but still to say they are doing

something.

> I often think, quoting Abe Lincoln, " It's better to keep one's

mouth shut and be

> thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. "

While I'm not like this on holding opinions, I'm very like this in my

speaking style. It's at the level of each statement made, that this

feeling affects me. Because it's so easy for conversations to go

wrong, I get an anxiety over each sentence I say, is it the best

reply I've got? am I missing out anything? It means I often speak

slowly or get stuck in embarrassing pauses. This itself can be

counterproductive as the other person's attention moves on leaving me

behind. It's definitely a bad social skill, that can frustrate me

when it happens at moments when I wish for a snappy answer to help

with making a personal bond. Yet I can't overcome it because it

sometimes works out well and even when it works out badly it's not

half as bad as the agony of having said something I would later think

was wrong.

>I just don't have much stomach

> for any kind of fight.

I know the feeling. It always hurts and depresses to find a fight

necessary. Yet another failiure for goodwill and gentleness. It's

stressful to have many fights going on all at once. I keep right away

from social circles with cultures of macho banter that amount to a

constant fight. The whole point of social ties should be to feel

securely accepted, what the hell goes on in the minds of sneery

characters who don't see it that way?

[Guest guest]

Dear Tim,

Glad to know that we all have helped. Personally, it

is my husband who has the pace/defib and I have been

at a loss as I have not been much help to him.

Reading all of the emails from this group has really

helped me to understand more fully how he must feel.

I am in good health and sometimes I expect too much

from him. Lord knows that he is trying to make ME

happy. Now it is my turn to make him happy as he will

be 65 on Saturday. He never thought that he would

reach his 65th birthday.

JKing, Boynton Beach, FL

--- timothy a collins <fatboytimcollins@...>

wrote:

> It's been awhile since my last post. I have been

> enjoying all the

> chatter. My events have not slowed down since the

> last time that I had

> wrote. And my heart disease has progressed to kidney

> failure.

> It is wonderful how all of you cheer each other up,

> and with out you

> all knowing it have done the same for me.The nurses

> are impressed as

> they get a kick out of some of the cut ups that make

> light of a bad

> situation to where they have brought in a laptop

> just to let me keep up

> on all of you.

> I have started a blog page and between you all and

> what I write has

> taken away alot of my negitive attitude I just

> wanted to thank you all

> for all the suport you have given me directly and

> indirectly.

> thanks and God bless you all.

>

>

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Goodness , jump right on in and give us your two cents worth! Becca in Florida timothy a collins <fatboytimcollins@...> wrote: It's been awhile since my last post. I have been enjoying all the chatter. My events have not slowed down since the last time that I had wrote. And my heart disease has progressed to kidney failure.It is wonderful how all of you cheer each other up, and with out you all knowing it have done the same

for me.The nurses are impressed as they get a kick out of some of the cut ups that make light of a bad situation to where they have brought in a laptop just to let me keep up on all of you. I have started a blog page and between you all and what I write has taken away alot of my negitive attitude I just wanted to thank you all for all the suport you have given me directly and indirectly.thanks and God bless you all.

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Hi Olivia,

I remember you. That is great that you are going to Salt Lake. Atiana's curve is

still very small, but if it is progressing, it should definitely be addressed.

Treatment should be short if it is that small. Good luck and let us know how it

goes.

oliviagruiz2006 wrote:

I DONT KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER ME(OLIVIA) AND MY DAUGHTER ATIANA!

WELL WE BEEN GOING TO A PED.ORTHO HERE IN PHOENIX,AZ SINCE JANUARY AND

NOW WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO GET SEEN IN SALT LAKE CITY UTAH ON JULY

11TH! SHE STARTED OUT WITH A DEGREE OF 9 IN JANUARY AND WHEN I TOOK

HER BACK IN MARCH SHE HAD A DEGREE OF 15 SO IM NOT SURE IF IT GOT

WORSE IN THOSE 3 MONTHS OR NOT!!IM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO BE PREPARED

FOR SO IF ANYONE GOTS ADVICE OR ANYTHING!

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[Guest guest]

-That is great you got an appt in SLC. They will most likely do their

own xrays when you get there. They did that with Matson and said the

xrays we had done back home were of poor quality and their techs

provided better xrays, positioning etc to get a better idea of what

his curve and RVAD actually were. Keep us posted on everything. You

are going to love Shriners in SLC everyone is wonderful. She is in

good hands!

Steph

Tyler 4

MAtson 16 months (dx 12/06) 41 degree curve. In first cast.

Lily 5 months

-- In infantile_scoliosis , " oliviagruiz2006 "

wrote:

>

> I DONT KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER ME(OLIVIA) AND MY DAUGHTER ATIANA!

> WELL WE BEEN GOING TO A PED.ORTHO HERE IN PHOENIX,AZ SINCE JANUARY

AND

> NOW WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO GET SEEN IN SALT LAKE CITY UTAH ON JULY

> 11TH! SHE STARTED OUT WITH A DEGREE OF 9 IN JANUARY AND WHEN I

TOOK

> HER BACK IN MARCH SHE HAD A DEGREE OF 15 SO IM NOT SURE IF IT GOT

> WORSE IN THOSE 3 MONTHS OR NOT!!IM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO BE

PREPARED

> FOR SO IF ANYONE GOTS ADVICE OR ANYTHING!

>

[Guest guest]

-That is great you got an appt in SLC. They will most likely do their

own xrays when you get there. They did that with Matson and said the

xrays we had done back home were of poor quality and their techs

provided better xrays, positioning etc to get a better idea of what

his curve and RVAD actually were. Keep us posted on everything. You

are going to love Shriners in SLC everyone is wonderful. She is in

good hands!

Steph

Tyler 4

MAtson 16 months (dx 12/06) 41 degree curve. In first cast.

Lily 5 months

-- In infantile_scoliosis , " oliviagruiz2006 "

wrote:

>

> I DONT KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER ME(OLIVIA) AND MY DAUGHTER ATIANA!

> WELL WE BEEN GOING TO A PED.ORTHO HERE IN PHOENIX,AZ SINCE JANUARY

AND

> NOW WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO GET SEEN IN SALT LAKE CITY UTAH ON JULY

> 11TH! SHE STARTED OUT WITH A DEGREE OF 9 IN JANUARY AND WHEN I

TOOK

> HER BACK IN MARCH SHE HAD A DEGREE OF 15 SO IM NOT SURE IF IT GOT

> WORSE IN THOSE 3 MONTHS OR NOT!!IM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO BE

PREPARED

> FOR SO IF ANYONE GOTS ADVICE OR ANYTHING!

>