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Dear Lyudmyla,

Can you please tell me what the UDA/UDI system of points for RCT is? Do you have any information regarding this?

Many thanks,

LarissaFrom: Lyudmyla Huhley <huhley2006@...>Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:04:58 "@groups com" < >, "nadia1209@..." <nadia1209@...>Subject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

They both lead to registration you can try but see their timetable

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From: Nadia Sharena <nadia1209@...>; < >; Subject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1 Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 9:23:09 AM

Hi Lyudmyla,

Could you please tell me the difference between ORE and LDS exam? is it the same? i am currently applying for the ORE exam because i just graduated from a non recognised university in europe,but will that alone lead me to registration as dentist in the UK? can i sit for ORE and LDS exam at the same time if i wish to?if so, how to apply for it?

thank you for your help.

Nadia

From: Lyudmyla Huhley <huhley2006@...>"@groups com" < >; "pranay_neema@..." <pranay_neema@...> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:35 AMSubject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

Hi FatimaOmsg this is the group where you are()Lds exam will lead to registration as gdp in ukMfds/mjdf will work out towards speciality and apparently easy to find a job.

Hope it helps

LyuSent from on Android

From: Pranay Neema <pranay_neema@...>; < >; Subject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1 Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 5:51:43 AM

hi all, I am persuing itership from India and it will be completed in 2013. What is the , LDS and MFDS and also job prospects after that exams

From: fatima zaidi <fatima_zaidi202@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 10:20 PMSubject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

Hey guys,

Did you all send the blood tests reports as well from a laboratory in UK for LDS part 1 exam

Regards

From: meheralvrez <meheralvrez@...> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:53 PMSubject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

Hi Rahul, if you type in search box on your account for emails with topics such as LDS part 1, you will see many results showing the guidance from other members. For starters I would say, read pink and blue book along with master dentistry vol 1 and 2 and then there are other books which you can find out the way I suggested or go through notes on file section. Hope that helps.Meher.> >>> > >>> Dear all, Anyone of you that submitted application for LDS PART 1 in September heard from RCS? The website says they have stopped taking further applications for that particular exam, seems to have filled up pretty quick then. Any of you know as to whether or not there will be a part 1 ORE exam this year? I have heard rumors of the GDC planning to stop the exam but then again nothing is confirmed as I heard from an associate dentist working in this country. Please share any views on the above two queries if any of you in the same position and know what is happening. Thank you. Meher> >> > >> > >> Follow Rediff Deal ho jaye! to get exciting offers in your city everyday.> > > > > >>

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Thankyou so much for that information.From: Anar <anarvyas@...>Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 02:12:49 " " < >Subject: Re: UDA system

A UDA is a “Unit of Dental Activity†undertaken by an NHS dentist.

A UDA depends on the type of work undertaken. A dentist is contracted by his PCT (Primary Care Trust) to do a set number of UDAs and dentists have to be within 4% of their targets. If dentists don’t achieve their contracted number of UDAs they are financially penalised by their PCT. If dentists do more than their contracted number of UDAs they don’t get paid any more.

The 3 Band System

This determines what patients pay and the amount of UDAs a dentist gets.

• Band 1 excluding urgent treatment – 1 UDA• Band 1 urgent treatment only – 1.2 UDAs• Band 2 – 3 UDAs• Band 3 – 12 UDAs• Issue of prescription – 0.75 UDA• Repair of dental appliance (denture) – 1 UDA• Repair of dental appliance (bridge) – 1.2 UDAs• Removal of stitches – 1 UDA• Stopping bleeding – 1.2 UDAs

Band 1Diagnosis, treatment planning and maintenanceExamination, x-rays, scale and polish, preventative work, for example an assessment of a patient’s oral health, minor changes to dentures.

Band 2TreatmentSimple treatment, for example fillings (including root canal treatment), extractions and periodontal (gum) treatment.

Band 3Complex treatment that includes a lab element, for example bridges, crowns and dentures (excludes mouth guards).

Urgent treatmentExamination, x-rays, dressings. Re-cementing crowns which have become loose, up to two extractions and one filling.

A UDA is variable, one UDA might be worth anywhere between £15 and £25, but can be more than this or less. The actual UDA varies according to where in the country a dentist is located (although it might vary street to street) and the amount of work previously carried out by the dentist before the new contract. It is thought that the more desperate a PCT is for NHS dentists, the more a UDA might be worth.

What does this mean for the dentist?

Example – One CrownA dentist is allocated 12 UDAs for doing a crown. So if the UDA is valued at £25 it means a dentist is paid £300 for doing one crown (£25 x 12 UDAs). If a dentist does 2 or 3, or more crowns he still only gets paid £300 even though he has a lot more lab work to pay for.

Example – Several fillings, x-rays, scale and polishA dentist is allocated 3 UDAs for doing the above work, so a dentist is paid £75 (£25 x 3 UDAs).

Example – One fillingA dentist is allocated 3 UDAs for one filling, so a dentist is paid £75 (£25 x 3 UDAs)

Example – One extractionA dentist is allocated 3 UDAs for one extraction, so a dentist is paid £75 (£25 x 3 UDAs)

Example – Root filling (a complex and time consuming process to do properly)A root filling might take 1-2 hours or more. A dentist is allocated 3 UDAs for a root filling so a dentist is paid £75 (£25 x 3 UDAs)

So as you can see from the above there is a problem. There is no incentive to do a root filling when a dentist gets paid the same for an extraction.

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hilde

October 26, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Well at least now I fully understand why I always go back to my home country when I need to see a dentist! This is absolutely ridiculous.

Mark

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On Jun 12, 2012, at 7:16 PM, "larissacotta braganza cotta" <larissa5@...> wrote:

Dear Jasmin,

Thankyou so much for your reply.From: Jasmin Baker <jasminepanes@...>Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:19:15 " " < >Subject: Re: UDA system

For RCT the UDA point is 3 per tooth same point with any sorts of filling as they fall in the band 2. If its just check-up, scaling polishing, fluoride application etc they all fall in Band1 while band3 is any prosthodontics. Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Jun 2012, at 10:37, "larissacotta braganza cotta" <larissa5@...> wrote:

Dear Lyudmyla,

Can you please tell me what the UDA/UDI system of points for RCT is? Do you have any information regarding this?

Many thanks,

LarissaFrom: Lyudmyla Huhley <huhley2006@...>Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:04:58 "@groups com" < >, "nadia1209@..." <nadia1209@...>Subject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

They both lead to registration you can try but see their timetable

Sent from on Android

From: Nadia Sharena <nadia1209@...>; < >; Subject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1 Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 9:23:09 AM

Hi Lyudmyla,

Could you please tell me the difference between ORE and LDS exam? is it the same? i am currently applying for the ORE exam because i just graduated from a non recognised university in europe,but will that alone lead me to registration as dentist in the UK? can i sit for ORE and LDS exam at the same time if i wish to?if so, how to apply for it?

thank you for your help.

Nadia

From: Lyudmyla Huhley <huhley2006@...>"@groups com" < >; "pranay_neema@..." <pranay_neema@...> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:35 AMSubject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

Hi FatimaOmsg this is the group where you are()Lds exam will lead to registration as gdp in ukMfds/mjdf will work out towards speciality and apparently easy to find a job.

Hope it helps

LyuSent from on Android

From: Pranay Neema <pranay_neema@...>; < >; Subject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1 Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2012 5:51:43 AM

hi all, I am persuing itership from India and it will be completed in 2013. What is the , LDS and MFDS and also job prospects after that exams

From: fatima zaidi <fatima_zaidi202@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 10:20 PMSubject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

Hey guys,

Did you all send the blood tests reports as well from a laboratory in UK for LDS part 1 exam

Regards

From: meheralvrez <meheralvrez@...> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:53 PMSubject: Re: LDS/ ORE PART 1

Hi Rahul, if you type in search box on your account for emails with topics such as LDS part 1, you will see many results showing the guidance from other members. For starters I would say, read pink and blue book along with master dentistry vol 1 and 2 and then there are other books which you can find out the way I suggested or go through notes on file section. Hope that helps.Meher.> >>> > >>> Dear all, Anyone of you that submitted application for LDS PART 1 in September heard from RCS? The website says they have stopped taking further applications for that particular exam, seems to have filled up pretty quick then. Any of you know as to whether or not there will be a part 1 ORE exam this year? I have heard rumors of the GDC planning to stop the exam but then again nothing is confirmed as I heard from an associate dentist working in this country. Please share any views on the above two queries if any of you in the same position and know what is happening. Thank you. Meher> >> > >> > >> Follow Rediff Deal ho jaye! to get exciting offers in your city everyday.> > > > > >>

Follow Rediff Deal ho jaye! to get exciting offers in your city everyday.

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