Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 That's a lot -- 3 boys on your own during the week. Good thing you train your clients at your house. That was my initial idea but our homeowners insurance would've been dropped immediately, even though I have a separate personal trainer's insurance policy for myself. A friend of mine here, who is also a trainer, found the same thing. She's the one who told me to check that out before I started training in my home. Is it different where you are? Marla From: Darcy Ledman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Hi That sounds great Marla. I plan to, at some point maybe train in people's homes. However, I have my gym set up so perfectly, I can't imagine leaving it...even for a session..haha!We're are doing great. Sawyer is 7 now, Bryar is 4, and Kaysar is 2. They are loads of fun. DH just started working out of the area again so I'll be doing it all on my own during the week again..ugh.. not fun. But honestly he got home late beofre and didn't contribute much to helping anyway! We'll miss him though.Darcy On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Marla <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: Hi Darcy! How are you and all your guys? I left my gym job and went out on my own. I'm training clients in their homes now, which I really like. There were a lot of changes at the gym (not good ones), and I knew it was time to leave -- I was not on board with the cookie-cutter approach they were adopting. Plus, I was just too busy, as you know. I'm currently working on my Corrective Exercise Specialist certification with NASM, too. I love this stuff. Marla From: Darcy Ledman Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Hi Hi Marla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooo cool to have you over here with us!!! Yes it is I from the "cathe group" How are things with you???? Still busy as ever?So happy to hear from you again. And thrilled you've joined our group!!!!!!!!!!Darcy On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Marla <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: I hope it's the Darcy and Tonya I knew previously on the Cathe group. That would be great. Marla From: Kassia Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Hi LOL i thought that when my dh signed up for the y i would use the gym more but actually i am not buying as many cardio/strength vids but now i am buying more bellydancing,pilates, and barre workout vids LOL. i guess you are right you can always pick up a trick or two from a video instructor to take with her in your lessons. we have a few other personal trainers in the group as well. tonya is currently doing more schooling(as if her credentials she already had weren't enough she needs more LOL) and darcy does some clients and our own moderator/owner laura teacher turbo kick. our own nancy(the front page queen) is WW coach and she is great. we have a few others so if i missed you so sorry about that! running off to pick my DD for her dr. appointment.she is autistic so 2 twice a year i have to see the specialist then 4 times a week for home therapy so i always have something on my plate. kassia From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi Marla, I'm not Darcy but am wondering what Corrective Exercise Specialist certification is about? What kind of corrections and for what kinds of conditions? Thanks! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 LOL!!! I thought it was some internet acronym I actually hadn't heard before! I'll take it though! I am so rhythmically challenged I wouldn't know for sure if an instructor is on the beat or not, probably because I'm not. I had a step instructor tell me I was usually a half beat ahead most of the time. , who doesn't exactly love Tony, would know for sure how Tony does with that. My in-laws live close to Strawberry Lake Rd, they're off Merrill. I'm very close to Ore Lake, down the road a bit from what was the Family Fitness Factory and has a different name now. I've worked out there off and on but just prefer videos for the most part. We're Brighton mailing and Brighton schools but Hamburg phone and taxes. My hubby grew up in Hamburg (went to Pinckney schools) and my kids go to Brighton schools so living in between the two we identify ourselves with both communities. We go to Hartland for my son's eye doctor though (Dr. Doud)! That is really nice you can look out on Zukey Lake while you and your client are training! We've got Ore Lake access but no view! For those not from Michigan, we're the Great Lake State but we also have an abundance of wonderful inland lakes too! It is fun playing geography with you, Marla! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi , Many common injuries are caused by muscle imbalances/movement impairments, which can be caused by poor structural alignment (bad posture), overuse, repetitive movements, bad movement techniques, etc. Corrective exercise utilizes movement assessments to target regions of the body that have overactive and underactive muscles. Once we find those movement impairments/imbalances, we design a very specific program to correct those issues --we reset the muscles to proper resting length, activate the underactive muscles, re-educate the neuromuscular system to utilize those muscle groups that are intended to work together, improve coordination, etc. It's really super interesting! Common injuries include: plantar fasciitis Achilles tendonitis shin splints runner's knee jumper's knee low back pain (of course) leg muscle strains rotator cuff tears/impingement you get the idea From: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Hi Hi Marla, I'm not Darcy but am wondering what Corrective Exercise Specialist certification is about? What kind of corrections and for what kinds of conditions? Thanks! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 VERY interesting! I have thought of these kinds of situations to be within the scope of a physical therapist but not a personal trainer. This is fantastic though, I'll look forward to reading more as you continue through your certification process and your work with clients in these areas! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 ooo very cool marla. I am so much better at dog structure and imbalance than human... but then when I compete in agility I want a dog that can with stand it and enjoy it not be in pain or get hurt... so important for fitness. I am very curious.. did you do any online courses. I do them in my spare time :)From: Marla <gmarla@...> Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 7:52:36 PMSubject: Re: Hi Hi , Many common injuries are caused by muscle imbalances/movement impairments, which can be caused by poor structural alignment (bad posture), overuse, repetitive movements, bad movement techniques, etc. Corrective exercise utilizes movement assessments to target regions of the body that have overactive and underactive muscles. Once we find those movement impairments/ imbalances, we design a very specific program to correct those issues --we reset the muscles to proper resting length, activate the underactive muscles, re-educate the neuromuscular system to utilize those muscle groups that are intended to work together, improve coordination, etc. It's really super interesting! Common injuries include: plantar fasciitis Achilles tendonitis shin splints runner's knee jumper's knee low back pain (of course) leg muscle strains rotator cuff tears/impingement you get the idea From: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Hi Hi Marla, I'm not Darcy but am wondering what Corrective Exercise Specialist certification is about? What kind of corrections and for what kinds of conditions? Thanks! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Marla, I don't think I ever welcomed you to the list - but Welcome! This sounds like such an interesting certification - I would love to hear more about it. I'm Donna, age 42, married w/ one DD (age 6), one dog, one cat, and one bunny. I live in land (Frederick County) approximately half-way between D.C. and Gettysburg, PA. I've been a hard core vidiot for about 10 years - although I did have videos before then, it wasn't until about 10 years ago that I became obsessive about collecting them. I like a variety of workouts. Your certification is really interesting to me b/c I have back issues most of which, I do believe, have been caused by a desk job (which makes posture worse!) and faulty movement patterns. My back started bothering me in my 20's - last year I finally got fed up and started seeing a chiropractor - it has helped tremendously - and I do still see him regularly. I've definately become more aware of my posture/movement patterns and I think that is helping also. From my x-rays it appears that I also have a mild case of scoliosis - not serious enough to do anything about but enough to cause misalignments and imbalances especially when compounded with poor sitting arrangements/posture and faulty movement patterns! It really has been an eye-opening learning process. I would actually love to go back to school and study this field in depth - but alas, gotta save up for DD's college (plus we send her to a private school - that I love - but is pricey!) Take care!Donna From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 The great thing about corrective exercise is that it can actually help prevent those injuries before they occur. That's the goal. Marla From: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Hi VERY interesting! I have thought of these kinds of situations to be within the scope of a physical therapist but not a personal trainer. This is fantastic though, I'll look forward to reading more as you continue through your certification process and your work with clients in these areas! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Judy -- I do online courses often. I have two personal trainer certifications (ACE, NASM) that I must keep current with continuing ed. in order to stay certified. I do most of those online. I also took a college anatomy/physiology course online. I love online!!! I do attend workshops, too, but online is awesome. Marla From: Judy S Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Hi ooo very cool marla. I am so much better at dog structure and imbalance than human... but then when I compete in agility I want a dog that can with stand it and enjoy it not be in pain or get hurt... so important for fitness. I am very curious.. did you do any online courses. I do them in my spare time From: Marla <gmarla@...> Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 7:52:36 PMSubject: Re: Hi Hi , Many common injuries are caused by muscle imbalances/movement impairments, which can be caused by poor structural alignment (bad posture), overuse, repetitive movements, bad movement techniques, etc. Corrective exercise utilizes movement assessments to target regions of the body that have overactive and underactive muscles. Once we find those movement impairments/ imbalances, we design a very specific program to correct those issues --we reset the muscles to proper resting length, activate the underactive muscles, re-educate the neuromuscular system to utilize those muscle groups that are intended to work together, improve coordination, etc. It's really super interesting! Common injuries include: plantar fasciitis Achilles tendonitis shin splints runner's knee jumper's knee low back pain (of course) leg muscle strains rotator cuff tears/impingement you get the idea From: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Hi Hi Marla, I'm not Darcy but am wondering what Corrective Exercise Specialist certification is about? What kind of corrections and for what kinds of conditions? Thanks! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Donna, You would really enjoy all the material I'm studying -- maybe you could find an used copy on eBay? Not sure. All of my materials are online, but I did have the text printed and bound into a book (was only $20) because I like having a book I can go through and take with me (I study everywhere, LOL). I'll let you know when I've gotten my CES certification, and would be happy to answer any questions here for you. Marla From: Donna M-P Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: Re: Hi Hi Marla, I don't think I ever welcomed you to the list - but Welcome! This sounds like such an interesting certification - I would love to hear more about it. I'm Donna, age 42, married w/ one DD (age 6), one dog, one cat, and one bunny. I live in land (Frederick County) approximately half-way between D.C. and Gettysburg, PA. I've been a hard core vidiot for about 10 years - although I did have videos before then, it wasn't until about 10 years ago that I became obsessive about collecting them. I like a variety of workouts. Your certification is really interesting to me b/c I have back issues most of which, I do believe, have been caused by a desk job (which makes posture worse!) and faulty movement patterns. My back started bothering me in my 20's - last year I finally got fed up and started seeing a chiropractor - it has helped tremendously - and I do still see him regularly. I've definately become more aware of my posture/movement patterns and I think that is helping also. From my x-rays it appears that I also have a mild case of scoliosis - not serious enough to do anything about but enough to cause misalignments and imbalances especially when compounded with poor sitting arrangements/posture and faulty movement patterns! It really has been an eye-opening learning process. I would actually love to go back to school and study this field in depth - but alas, gotta save up for DD's college (plus we send her to a private school - that I love - but is pricey!) Take care!Donna From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Thanks Marla - what would I search for on e-bay? I'd love to study this! :)Donna From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 That certainly makes sense. So much so that it leads me to what is probably a question that can't be answered here but I'll ask anyway... why is such education a separate certificate rather than it being included in the basics for personal trainers? I'd certainly want a trainer teaching me that way. On the same wavelength, I read an article in the local paper (Livingston County Press & Argus, if you get it Marla) a couple few months ago about how I think it was the military was just starting a new way of training people (physically) that included awareness of activities, exercises, etc. that are more likely to cause injury and that they were designing their training now to avoid injury. I thought that was extremely interesting because my own experience with the military and other forms of training (non-athletic/physical) is that they were usually ahead of the game in terms of training techniques and others learned from them. I also thought it would have been a no brainer to find ways to train (physically) soldiers so they would not regularly sustain injuries from the training. I guess harder and faster rather than smarter was the rule until recently. That was my impression anyway. HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Good question . I agree that it should be part of being a personal trainer automatically!DarcyOn Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:04 PM, <nancydewolf@...> wrote:  That certainly makes sense. So much so that it leads me to what is probably a question that can't be answered here but I'll ask anyway... why is such education a separate certificate rather than it being included in the basics for personal trainers? I'd certainly want a trainer teaching me that way. On the same wavelength, I read an article in the local paper (Livingston County Press & Argus, if you get it Marla) a couple few months ago about how I think it was the military was just starting a new way of training people (physically) that included awareness of activities, exercises, etc. that are more likely to cause injury and that they were designing their training now to avoid injury. I thought that was extremely interesting because my own experience with the military and other forms of training (non-athletic/physical) is that they were usually ahead of the game in terms of training techniques and others learned from them. I also thought it would have been a no brainer to find ways to train (physically) soldiers so they would not regularly sustain injuries from the training. I guess harder and faster rather than smarter was the rule until recently. That was my impression anyway.   HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Great question. I'll answer best I can from my own experience. The first certification I attained was American Council on Exercise two years ago. I've worked out most of my adult life, so I figured I knew a lot and that it wouldn't be too difficult. I was surprised at all there was to learn. It felt like a major feat to get that certification. When I attended an ACE workshop the master trainer there mentioned movement assessments, which is at the core of the National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM) certification. I got my NASM certified personal trainer certification last January, which did cover movement assessments and how to properly progress a client to prevent injuries. For example: it's very important to strengthen the stabilizing muscles of the spine before asking a client to flex their spine -- in other words, don't start with crunches, start with planks. NASM is all about movement assessments, safe and proper progression, muscle imbalances, proper muscle recruitment, structural alignment, resetting the muscles back to their optimal length, etc., as well as how to begin and progress a client through a good cardio interval program. NASM does include this material in the CPT studies, and you need the NASM CPT certification before you can continue on to the Corrective Exercise Specialist. The CES takes what I learned with my CPT and goes much deeper into each of those topics, covering each joint region of the body with more depth, more specifics, etc. ACE and NASM are the only two agencies I'm certified through (for now), so I can only speak of those. Hope that helps. Marla From: Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Hi That certainly makes sense. So much so that it leads me to what is probably a question that can't be answered here but I'll ask anyway... why is such education a separate certificate rather than it being included in the basics for personal trainers? I'd certainly want a trainer teaching me that way. On the same wavelength, I read an article in the local paper (Livingston County Press & Argus, if you get it Marla) a couple few months ago about how I think it was the military was just starting a new way of training people (physically) that included awareness of activities, exercises, etc. that are more likely to cause injury and that they were designing their training now to avoid injury. I thought that was extremely interesting because my own experience with the military and other forms of training (non-athletic/physical) is that they were usually ahead of the game in terms of training techniques and others learned from them. I also thought it would have been a no brainer to find ways to train (physically) soldiers so they would not regularly sustain injuries from the training. I guess harder and faster rather than smarter was the rule until recently. That was my impression anyway. HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 "NASM corrective exercise" From: Donna M-P Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Hi Thanks Marla - what would I search for on e-bay? I'd love to study this! :)Donna From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Just want to add: ACE now does movement assessment workshops, which is great (but not an actual requirement). I believe movement assessments are a more recent part of the fitness industry, and NASM is built around them. Both ACE and NASM are great, just different. I feel fairly well-rounded having both ... but the learning never stops. Marla From: Marla Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Hi Great question. I'll answer best I can from my own experience. The first certification I attained was American Council on Exercise two years ago. I've worked out most of my adult life, so I figured I knew a lot and that it wouldn't be too difficult. I was surprised at all there was to learn. It felt like a major feat to get that certification. When I attended an ACE workshop the master trainer there mentioned movement assessments, which is at the core of the National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM) certification. I got my NASM certified personal trainer certification last January, which did cover movement assessments and how to properly progress a client to prevent injuries. For example: it's very important to strengthen the stabilizing muscles of the spine before asking a client to flex their spine -- in other words, don't start with crunches, start with planks. NASM is all about movement assessments, safe and proper progression, muscle imbalances, proper muscle recruitment, structural alignment, resetting the muscles back to their optimal length, etc., as well as how to begin and progress a client through a good cardio interval program. NASM does include this material in the CPT studies, and you need the NASM CPT certification before you can continue on to the Corrective Exercise Specialist. The CES takes what I learned with my CPT and goes much deeper into each of those topics, covering each joint region of the body with more depth, more specifics, etc. ACE and NASM are the only two agencies I'm certified through (for now), so I can only speak of those. Hope that helps. Marla From: Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Hi That certainly makes sense. So much so that it leads me to what is probably a question that can't be answered here but I'll ask anyway... why is such education a separate certificate rather than it being included in the basics for personal trainers? I'd certainly want a trainer teaching me that way. On the same wavelength, I read an article in the local paper (Livingston County Press & Argus, if you get it Marla) a couple few months ago about how I think it was the military was just starting a new way of training people (physically) that included awareness of activities, exercises, etc. that are more likely to cause injury and that they were designing their training now to avoid injury. I thought that was extremely interesting because my own experience with the military and other forms of training (non-athletic/physical) is that they were usually ahead of the game in terms of training techniques and others learned from them. I also thought it would have been a no brainer to find ways to train (physically) soldiers so they would not regularly sustain injuries from the training. I guess harder and faster rather than smarter was the rule until recently. That was my impression anyway. HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Just want to add: ACE now does movement assessment workshops, which is great (but not an actual requirement). I believe movement assessments are a more recent part of the fitness industry, and NASM is built around them. Both ACE and NASM are great, just different. I feel fairly well-rounded having both ... but the learning never stops. Marla From: Marla Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Hi Great question. I'll answer best I can from my own experience. The first certification I attained was American Council on Exercise two years ago. I've worked out most of my adult life, so I figured I knew a lot and that it wouldn't be too difficult. I was surprised at all there was to learn. It felt like a major feat to get that certification. When I attended an ACE workshop the master trainer there mentioned movement assessments, which is at the core of the National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM) certification. I got my NASM certified personal trainer certification last January, which did cover movement assessments and how to properly progress a client to prevent injuries. For example: it's very important to strengthen the stabilizing muscles of the spine before asking a client to flex their spine -- in other words, don't start with crunches, start with planks. NASM is all about movement assessments, safe and proper progression, muscle imbalances, proper muscle recruitment, structural alignment, resetting the muscles back to their optimal length, etc., as well as how to begin and progress a client through a good cardio interval program. NASM does include this material in the CPT studies, and you need the NASM CPT certification before you can continue on to the Corrective Exercise Specialist. The CES takes what I learned with my CPT and goes much deeper into each of those topics, covering each joint region of the body with more depth, more specifics, etc. ACE and NASM are the only two agencies I'm certified through (for now), so I can only speak of those. Hope that helps. Marla From: Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Hi That certainly makes sense. So much so that it leads me to what is probably a question that can't be answered here but I'll ask anyway... why is such education a separate certificate rather than it being included in the basics for personal trainers? I'd certainly want a trainer teaching me that way. On the same wavelength, I read an article in the local paper (Livingston County Press & Argus, if you get it Marla) a couple few months ago about how I think it was the military was just starting a new way of training people (physically) that included awareness of activities, exercises, etc. that are more likely to cause injury and that they were designing their training now to avoid injury. I thought that was extremely interesting because my own experience with the military and other forms of training (non-athletic/physical) is that they were usually ahead of the game in terms of training techniques and others learned from them. I also thought it would have been a no brainer to find ways to train (physically) soldiers so they would not regularly sustain injuries from the training. I guess harder and faster rather than smarter was the rule until recently. That was my impression anyway. HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Thanks, I will look into it. You have me inspired to try to study for a personal trainer cert on my own - even if I never use it I think it would be personally beneficial to me to learn all this stuff - plus I enjoy learning about these things! Donna From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yay, Donna! Go for it. And truly, if you learn it all you might as well take the exam and hold the certification. You would have so much to offer others. Marla From: Donna M-P Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Hi Thanks, I will look into it. You have me inspired to try to study for a personal trainer cert on my own - even if I never use it I think it would be personally beneficial to me to learn all this stuff - plus I enjoy learning about these things! Donna From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net>Subject: HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Wow, sounds very intense but awesome! You are exactly who I was looking for a few years ago when I first wanted to start exercising again after a mastectomy (and I could afford some personal training here & there). I went to a couple of gyms and asked for a trainer that was experienced with people recovering from surgery or more specifically, what I had done, which involved disconnecting and reconnecting muscles. No one had anyone specifically trained in that area except a Curves like gym and I don't love those places so I didn't join (had a bad experience with someone who called herself a PT that owned one like it and don't trust them now). Others assured me anyone could work with me. I went to the Family Fitness Factory because it is 1/4 mile from my house and the person I worked with seemed good even though she said she was still finishing her first certification. I only had probably 2 sessions with her. She seemed okay but not great. I think I was looking for Jillian s and got Sansone! :-) My daughter was also 2 and screaming her guts out in the nursery so much so that the caregivers came and got me off the floor a couple of times to take her out and I couldn't or wouldn't workout in the evenings so I gave up for a while. Anyway, I'm very glad to know there is such certfication and training. I've talked with some people who call themselves trainers that don't seem to know their knee from their elbows let alone what is safe or beneficial. This is super interesting, especially since I'm still recovering from a similar surgery now (had it Sept. 18, replacing the implant they put in a few months after my mastectomy) and trying to figure out what I can do without causing injury. It seems like the muscle (primarily the pectoralis major) is mostly healed, still have some twinges but nothing terrible anymore. I'm still rebuilding my strength and endurance. I'm going slowly and testing things out as I go along. Anyway, this kind of training is just awesome, I'm really excited to hear more about it. I had no idea PTs had to learn so much but it certainly makes sense that if you're going to do that kind of work that you should know so much (really makes me wonder about some of the knee from elbow people I've met too though). Thanks so much for sharing about it, I'll look forward to hearing more! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Any certified personal trainer worth their salt would first go through your medical history, and in your situation would ask for your physician's clearance for exercise and request his/her guidance regarding your training: contraindications, precautions, etc., while working with you. It's all about you. Unfortunately there are gyms out there who have "personal trainers" who are not certified, or who have not kept current on their certifications. I expect that as the fitness industry grows (with over 60% of Americans overweight it will), there will be a call for certification requirements, as there are in other fields. Marla From: Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Hi Wow, sounds very intense but awesome! You are exactly who I was looking for a few years ago when I first wanted to start exercising again after a mastectomy (and I could afford some personal training here & there). I went to a couple of gyms and asked for a trainer that was experienced with people recovering from surgery or more specifically, what I had done, which involved disconnecting and reconnecting muscles. No one had anyone specifically trained in that area except a Curves like gym and I don't love those places so I didn't join (had a bad experience with someone who called herself a PT that owned one like it and don't trust them now). Others assured me anyone could work with me. I went to the Family Fitness Factory because it is 1/4 mile from my house and the person I worked with seemed good even though she said she was still finishing her first certification. I only had probably 2 sessions with her. She seemed okay but not great. I think I was looking for Jillian s and got Sansone! :-) My daughter was also 2 and screaming her guts out in the nursery so much so that the caregivers came and got me off the floor a couple of times to take her out and I couldn't or wouldn't workout in the evenings so I gave up for a while. Anyway, I'm very glad to know there is such certfication and training. I've talked with some people who call themselves trainers that don't seem to know their knee from their elbows let alone what is safe or beneficial. This is super interesting, especially since I'm still recovering from a similar surgery now (had it Sept. 18, replacing the implant they put in a few months after my mastectomy) and trying to figure out what I can do without causing injury. It seems like the muscle (primarily the pectoralis major) is mostly healed, still have some twinges but nothing terrible anymore. I'm still rebuilding my strength and endurance. I'm going slowly and testing things out as I go along. Anyway, this kind of training is just awesome, I'm really excited to hear more about it. I had no idea PTs had to learn so much but it certainly makes sense that if you're going to do that kind of work that you should know so much (really makes me wonder about some of the knee from elbow people I've met too though). Thanks so much for sharing about it, I'll look forward to hearing more! HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009  I've thought about it too, Donna. Along with a few other things that interest me intensely for a while then I move on! Good thing I haven't spent any money yet on the the other things. HiDate: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Welcome Marla,. Seems you are in the right place! W'ere a group full of video addicts! a in Texas > > Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yep, it’s both of us from the Cathe group. Welcome Marla!!! Tonya From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kassia Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Hi i believe both of them are on those groups :-) at least i am pretty sure darcy is. From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net> Subject: Hi Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 , Over the years, I’ve taken dozens of certifications and am now in a degree program for exercise physiology. There is a lot more to it then just the basic exercises. A LOT MORE!!! I think the initial personal training certifications from each organization try to cover as much as they possibly can, but there is just no way of putting everything in one certification. So, they put the basics in the initial certification and then if you are interested in going deeper into different aspects then you can take other certifications that are more specific. Kinda like in elementary school you take science, but then in high school you focus on biology or chemistry. Same subject, just much more in depth. Also, some of the specifics are pretty confusing to people who haven’t had anatomy. Since an initial personal training certification can be obtained by someone without any other history of education, they have to cover that basic anatomy there and not the more detailed stuff that is needed for specific issues that people have. Besides, if we learned it all in our initial personal training certification, what would we spend our money on CEC’s for? LOL Tonya From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Hi That certainly makes sense. So much so that it leads me to what is probably a question that can't be answered here but I'll ask anyway... why is such education a separate certificate rather than it being included in the basics for personal trainers? I'd certainly want a trainer teaching me that way. On the same wavelength, I read an article in the local paper (Livingston County Press & Argus, if you get it Marla) a couple few months ago about how I think it was the military was just starting a new way of training people (physically) that included awareness of activities, exercises, etc. that are more likely to cause injury and that they were designing their training now to avoid injury. I thought that was extremely interesting because my own experience with the military and other forms of training (non-athletic/physical) is that they were usually ahead of the game in terms of training techniques and others learned from them. I also thought it would have been a no brainer to find ways to train (physically) soldiers so they would not regularly sustain injuries from the training. I guess harder and faster rather than smarter was the rule until recently. That was my impression anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marla Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Exercise Videos] Hi The great thing about corrective exercise is that it can actually help prevent those injuries before they occur. That's the goal. Marla From: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Exercise Videos] Hi VERY interesting! I have thought of these kinds of situations to be within the scope of a physical therapist but not a personal trainer. This is fantastic though, I'll look forward to reading more as you continue through your certification process and your work with clients in these areas! ----- Original Message ----- From: Marla Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [Exercise Videos] Hi Hi , Many common injuries are caused by muscle imbalances/movement impairments, which can be caused by poor structural alignment (bad posture), overuse, repetitive movements, bad movement techniques, etc. Corrective exercise utilizes movement assessments to target regions of the body that have overactive and underactive muscles. Once we find those movement impairments/imbalances, we design a very specific program to correct those issues --we reset the muscles to proper resting length, activate the underactive muscles, re-educate the neuromuscular system to utilize those muscle groups that are intended to work together, improve coordination, etc. It's really super interesting! Common injuries include: plantar fasciitis Achilles tendonitis shin splints runner's knee jumper's knee low back pain (of course) leg muscle strains rotator cuff tears/impingement you get the idea From: Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Exercise Videos] Hi Hi Marla, I'm not Darcy but am wondering what Corrective Exercise Specialist certification is about? What kind of corrections and for what kinds of conditions? Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Marla Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [Exercise Videos] Hi Hi Darcy! How are you and all your guys? I left my gym job and went out on my own. I'm training clients in their homes now, which I really like. There were a lot of changes at the gym (not good ones), and I knew it was time to leave -- I was not on board with the cookie-cutter approach they were adopting. Plus, I was just too busy, as you know. I'm currently working on my Corrective Exercise Specialist certification with NASM, too. I love this stuff. Marla From: Darcy Ledman Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Exercise Videos] Hi Hi Marla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooo cool to have you over here with us!!! Yes it is I from the " cathe group " How are things with you???? Still busy as ever? So happy to hear from you again. And thrilled you've joined our group!!!!!!!!!! Darcy On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Marla <gmarla@...> wrote: I hope it's the Darcy and Tonya I knew previously on the Cathe group. That would be great. Marla From: Kassia Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Hi LOL i thought that when my dh signed up for the y i would use the gym more but actually i am not buying as many cardio/strength vids but now i am buying more bellydancing,pilates, and barre workout vids LOL. i guess you are right you can always pick up a trick or two from a video instructor to take with her in your lessons. we have a few other personal trainers in the group as well. tonya is currently doing more schooling(as if her credentials she already had weren't enough she needs more LOL) and darcy does some clients and our own moderator/owner laura teacher turbo kick. our own nancy(the front page queen) is WW coach and she is great. we have a few others so if i missed you so sorry about that! running off to pick my DD for her dr. appointment.she is autistic so 2 twice a year i have to see the specialist then 4 times a week for home therapy so i always have something on my plate. kassia From: gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net <gmarlasbcglobal (DOT) net> Subject: Hi Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:51 PM Hi -- I'm new to the group. My name is Marla, I live in Michigan with my husband and two kids, and I'm 47. I'm an exercise video junkie. Seriously. ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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