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Jana- DON'T GIVE UP NOW!!!! You have fought too hard & too long. My

thoughts & prayers are with you. ne

>From: janalise <serene@...>

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>Subject: confession

>Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 00:52:32 -0600

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>I will confess. I am not doing well. My heart says stay - my body says

>GO.... take that medicine and find relief. every night for the past 3 I

>have taken more medicine for pain -- adding one or 2 more - hoping it was

>just the little bit more I needed.... to sleep - long. I feel like I cannot

>fight any more. It is all gone from me.

>

>now is taking away what life I have by terrorizing the family.

>Yomorrow I will have to decide if he should go live in a residential

>facility or not... as it is whilst I write this - he is throwing things at

>me, so it is fairly obvious he will need to go.

>

> officially lost his job tonight. Why did he lose it? Because and I

>quote " Your wife is too ill and your children do not fit into our

>community " AND THIS IS A CHURCH???

>I have had it WITH EVERYTHING... If I couldd do it and make it look like an

>accident I would in a flash, I'm tired of 'living' and I'm ready to go

>home;

>i o ooooooooooooooooonighht

>o'm sort i jana

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Dearest Janalise,

I will confess. I am not doing well. My heart says stay - my body saysGO....

My dearest friend I hope you listen to your heart. *hug*

now is taking away what life I have by terrorizing the family.Yomorrow I will have to decide if he should go live in a residentialfacility or not... as it is whilst I write this - he is throwing things atme, so it is fairly obvious he will need to go.

It will prolly be in the best interests of too sweet one. It must be so horrible to go through. He has ODD doesnt he? Unfortunately sometimes the best interests of another is not always for you, which sucks basically.

officially lost his job tonight. Why did he lose it? Because and Iquote "Your wife is too ill and your children do not fit into ourcommunity" AND THIS IS A CHURCH???

That is disgusting. Can you not report this to a higher authority? I mean... any caring human would go out of their way to help you all out - you would think a church especially. Their attitude revolts me. But Jana it is their attitude not your fault. You did not cause this to happen. The people did. You are not responsible.

I have had it WITH EVERYTHING... If I couldd do it and make it look like an accident I would in a flash, I'm tired of 'living' and I'm ready to go home;

Oh hon, my heart is with you. I am sitting here crying. I have watched you struggle for so long - you constantly amaze me at how much strength is in your loving heart. Sweet one I wish there was something I could do to make all the unfairness end. Donna was on suicide watch, I dont know how it works but I am sure she would tell you - have you considered asking for help? You cannot bare this alone, and I know that is of no support to you.

I have watched you emotionally go down hill this last week and I hate knowing that you are suffering and knowing that there is nothing I can do to help you. I wish I could wave my magic wand and make your life painfree and joyful. Death isnt the answer, although you know that I understand where you are at.

There are many people on this planet that love you and need you like me for one, your kids for two, your internet friends - You are much loved Janalise.

I wish there were some way I could reach out to you so you could feel how much you are loved. Words are so inadequate. I know that you have a big heart full of love for all of us too. I hope you chose to stay and share that love with us - Life without you just would never be the same.

I love you.

Aisha.

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Hi, Cash-

Pat yourself on the back for making so much progress this far, designate

yesterday as your free day for the week, and look forward to the progres

you'll make within the next few weeks...it's over. :-)

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Hi, everyone!

Well, I've done the ab boot camp workout before, but today I did the " active

rest " period in between sets and let me tell you-it made a huge difference!!

Wow, I reallly feel it now, more than ever before. I hadn't done the active

rest b/c I thought I'd look pretty dumb on all fours sucking my stomach in

for 30 seconds at a time....but I did it anyway today and highly recommend

it! :-) Everyone have a great day!

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LOL Cash!! you arent babbling!! I did something similar one week....so what I did, was take that day for my free day..... then on Sunday which was my "normal" free day, I did a 20 mn HIIT cardio, and at clean :) This week I have been "good" and so I will take my normal free day on Sunday, back on schedule :)I cant blame you for the carrot cake and brownies though.......OY! Thats like 2 of my fav desserts (or main courses, hehe)!!

Blessings,

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Keep on "Keepin ON"!!

As this group is for support, I just felt that I had to confess yesterday's sins. The first time I've deviated the eating for life plan in 5.5 weeks.Yesterday, a colleague had a retirement party and there were TONS of homemade goodies, and, well, you can guess what happened.I had a small piece of carrot cake 2"x2"x2", a brownie square 2"x2"x1", and pound cake 2"x2"x1".Then that evening, the kid made popcorn, and I finished off the bag (about a third of a bag) - but it was Orville's lowest fat.OK. There, confession over.Just had to do confess my lack of will power in hopes that it will prevent such lapses in the future. I know it's a drop in the bucket in relation to what I put away on "free day", and I could probably rationalize with something like "Well, I'll just have a little less on the free day", but once you go down that road, it's very difficult to come back.As penance, I've assigned myself 40 minutes of low-medium intensity aerobics on my free-day.Sorry for taking up thread space with blabbering.Cash

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Don't beat yourself up too much, Cash. I think we've all had days like that

periodically. Forgive yourself, do your penance if you feel you need to, and

get back on the right road. :)

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>As this group is for support, I just felt that I had to confess

>yesterday's sins. The first time I've deviated the eating for life

>plan in 5.5 weeks.

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Cash.....if I could ........Your sins would forgiven.....just don't do it

again.... :) None of us r perfect but with each others help we can be

amazing....Todd in Michigan

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> As this group is for support, I just felt that I had to confess

> yesterday's sins. The first time I've deviated the eating for life

> plan in 5.5 weeks.

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LOL!! Im going to start the boot camp next week, and it looks like ill probably be glad im working out at home!! LOL

Thanks for the advice !

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Hi, everyone!Well, I've done the ab boot camp workout before, but today I did the "active rest" period in between sets and let me tell you-it made a huge difference!! Wow, I reallly feel it now, more than ever before. I hadn't done the active rest b/c I thought I'd look pretty dumb on all fours sucking my stomach in for 30 seconds at a time....but I did it anyway today and highly recommend it! :-) Everyone have a great day!

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> It happens. ask what you learned from it and what you can do in

the future.

My wife told me I always have great diet will power. On a carb free

diet, I avoided every extra carb that came my way. It was a little

easier being all or nothing. And up until yesterday, I was fine.

Guess I need to do some mental imagery which worked so well for me

during the fat-free period of my life... Imagine a yummy pot-roast

dinner... put it in the fridge... get it out the next morning... skim

off the fat on the top and put it into one of those big basting

syringes... attach an injection needle onto the syringe... take out

your arm... inject the fat directly into your veins... now you've had

a Big Mac, Shake, Fires, and apple turnover or whatever. Concentrate

on that image, and the idea of eating anything with fat becomes

nearly intolerable. It works quite well, but don't know how I can

suspend it one day a week <g>.

> Even on such days I try to get adequate protein so the muscles

aren't

> starved. Then push yourself hard on your next weight day because

you ought

> to be a little stronger. Just a thought.

Ooooh, that sounds good!

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> It happens. ask what you learned from it and what you can do in

the future.

My wife told me I always have great diet will power. On a carb free

diet, I avoided every extra carb that came my way. It was a little

easier being all or nothing. And up until yesterday, I was fine.

Guess I need to do some mental imagery which worked so well for me

during the fat-free period of my life... Imagine a yummy pot-roast

dinner... put it in the fridge... get it out the next morning... skim

off the fat on the top and put it into one of those big basting

syringes... attach an injection needle onto the syringe... take out

your arm... inject the fat directly into your veins... now you've had

a Big Mac, Shake, Fires, and apple turnover or whatever. Concentrate

on that image, and the idea of eating anything with fat becomes

nearly intolerable. It works quite well, but don't know how I can

suspend it one day a week <g>.

> Even on such days I try to get adequate protein so the muscles

aren't

> starved. Then push yourself hard on your next weight day because

you ought

> to be a little stronger. Just a thought.

Ooooh, that sounds good!

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Not fair!!!!! Here I am working up to trying Udo's Oil and I now have the

image of a syringe of fat injected in my arm!!!! I'll need to kill that

brain cell on free day! :=)

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Don't let this get you off track! First off, the eight pounds you

gained are mostly (if not all) water weight. They'll disappear in the

next few days, as long as you get back on track and drink all of your

water. When you binge like that, you take in a lot of carbohydrates

which absorb water when they're sitting around in your stomach. Then

ta-da! Water weight like crazy. It's not permanent. So, if this

happens again (or after any free day, really), it's best not to jump

on the scale for at least a few days. You'd have to consume massive

amounts of food to REALLY damage your progress so far.

I've been through a few breakups while doing BFL. It's hard to eat

right and exercise during one (at least for me) because self-image is

tied in very closely to relationships and a workout program. What has

worked for me is to take control of what I can--myself and my

eating/exercising. I can't control him and whatever happened, but I

can take charge from this moment on and do what I know I should be

doing. Find another outlet for your emotions besides food/eating.

Call up a friend, your mom, email a friend for support, read a book,

have a good cry, go for a long walk, watch a good chick flick.

Don't let this get you down. It's just an obstacle in your road to

health and fitness. Whether you get over it or stumble or turn

completely around is up to you!!

HUGS and take care :)

Maggie

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Hi ,

I have just completed a second 12 week challenge and am starting a

third. During those two challenges I have had more than one " binge

day " that didn't fall on my free day. The water weight gain

following carb loading makes a person feel puffy and bloated. BUT,

if you do an internet search on " carb loading " you will discover that

it is actually a body building strategy. SOOOOOO the day after a

binge I just tell myself that I have all of this WONDERFUL energy in

my system and what a great workout I am going to have. I drink extra

water and focus on building muscle. Muscle needs carbs to bulk up.

So you didn't do damage if your binge is only a one day ordeal. (I

have even had a couple of " two day " binges in my challenges and still

had great results). The secret is to get to the weights and start

lifting and using those carbs ASAP.

Warmly,

Petra

>

> I have been doing BFL for a couple weeks now and the past few days

i went on

> a huge binge after my boyfriend and i broke up. Needless to say i

weighed

> myself today and i no joke went up 8 lbs. I donno, i know if you

eat more

> than what you burn you gain but i'm so depressed right now cause i

feel so

> down. I just don't know where to go from here.

>

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Don't look back, don't kick yourself, just move forward. A lot of

what you are seeing on the scale is carb bloat water retention. Get

back on your plan, don't try to cut calories to make up for the

binging, but do drink MORE water!! Two weeks from today I bet you

are doign BETTER than you were before the binge. None of us are

perfect and we have all had setbacks. The more you stick to this

lifestyle, the better you get at avoiding the pitfalls.

LYnda

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In a message dated 2/17/2004 1:20:37 AM Central Standard Time,

s4052475@... writes:

I am seriously considering a lap-band to try and curb the eating.

I know you will all disagree with me but I thought I would confess anyway..

Kristy

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Kristy,

You are close to goal...I sure wouldn't risk the troubles and possible

complications of surgery for what you need to lose. Just get back to your

basics, water and protein....When I slowed this thime, I cut the carbs(Read

bagels!!) and started low carbing. I dropped 5 lbs in a week.

Most yogurt is full of sugars...Do you get the carb control yogurt by

dannon there? Or at least get the ones made with splenda. Cut the bad stuff and

let your body's plumbing help get you there. I have seen 1st timers on the big

board still losing after 2 1/2 yrs so people can lose past their window.

Don't mea to preach, but you look great in your pics. I can't for the

life of me see where your hiding the extra pounds....LOL.

melanie in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 122 lbs (377.7 to 255.6 and still going)

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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Dear Kristy,

I fully understand the out of control eating and fear of gaining

weight! I eat way too much and fear gaining. I had hoped that the DS

would end the vicious cycle of my eating disorder - but it has not.

The insanity remains.

My friend who had the RNY takes prescription appetite suppressants in

hopes to curb the regain. I am not recommending this but I would

certainly consider it before I would have a revision/lap band. I have

no idea what Dr K's feelings are on this. I don't know if the

appetite suppressants would be too harmful to our livers to consider.

I do know that Dr K is a compassionate man and while he does not

share our eating affliction he is understanding of it and I am sure

he would talk/email you about how you are feeling and offer you

advice or solutions to what you are experiencing.

BIG HUGS! I know this is hard for you. Thanks for sharing your

confession.

cindy lee

> I have a terrible confession. I am out of control with my eating.

My stomach MUST be back to full size already and I am always

starving. julie's experience made me realise a 'revision' is

seriously risky, even though I had been considering it.

>

> I actually have gained 4 pounds since the TT and am still about 28

pounds from target. I can feel my pants getting tighter and I am

panicking.

>

> I am seriously considering a lap-band to try and curb the eating.

>

> I know you will all disagree with me but I thought I would confess

anyway..

>

> Kristy

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Dear Kristy,

I fully understand the out of control eating and fear of gaining

weight! I eat way too much and fear gaining. I had hoped that the DS

would end the vicious cycle of my eating disorder - but it has not.

The insanity remains.

My friend who had the RNY takes prescription appetite suppressants in

hopes to curb the regain. I am not recommending this but I would

certainly consider it before I would have a revision/lap band. I have

no idea what Dr K's feelings are on this. I don't know if the

appetite suppressants would be too harmful to our livers to consider.

I do know that Dr K is a compassionate man and while he does not

share our eating affliction he is understanding of it and I am sure

he would talk/email you about how you are feeling and offer you

advice or solutions to what you are experiencing.

BIG HUGS! I know this is hard for you. Thanks for sharing your

confession.

cindy lee

> I have a terrible confession. I am out of control with my eating.

My stomach MUST be back to full size already and I am always

starving. julie's experience made me realise a 'revision' is

seriously risky, even though I had been considering it.

>

> I actually have gained 4 pounds since the TT and am still about 28

pounds from target. I can feel my pants getting tighter and I am

panicking.

>

> I am seriously considering a lap-band to try and curb the eating.

>

> I know you will all disagree with me but I thought I would confess

anyway..

>

> Kristy

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I've been through the M & M munchies, too. I have a co-worker whose

wife works for the distribution center of the Publix grocery stores

here in Orlando, and the co-worker is always bringing in huge boxes of

black and white M & Ms that the stores pulled from the shelves. We will

literally have an entire desk covered with bags of M & Ms that are free

to whomever wants some.

One little bag is no big deal. We all have our moments of " Oops! "

During the last M & M invasion, I just set myself a limit of 10 pieces

of M & Ms a day to keep myself from going crazy and feeling unnecesarily

guilty, LOL.

Maggie

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Thanks- Glad to hear I am not alone on the " oops " once in a while. You are

in Orlando? We will be coming down for a family vacation with our

2-year-old son in April. Most likely we will do the Disney/SeaWorld thing a

few days and then just hang out our whatever. We will be staying at the

SunBay Resort, or something close to that. It is like 6 miles from Disney.

I can't think of the name.....Damn.... I hate that. I certainly want to

have a day to hang out by one of the pools with my new hot " mother " body!!

Already have my new bathing suit cut out of the magazine and taped to my

fridge!! At least from my tummy down I can look like the model. No

exercising in the world will give me her top :0) But that is another story.

...

Have a good day-

-- Re: Confession

,

I've been through the M & M munchies, too. I have a co-worker whose

wife works for the distribution center of the Publix grocery stores

here in Orlando, and the co-worker is always bringing in huge boxes of

black and white M & Ms that the stores pulled from the shelves. We will

literally have an entire desk covered with bags of M & Ms that are free

to whomever wants some.

One little bag is no big deal. We all have our moments of " Oops! "

During the last M & M invasion, I just set myself a limit of 10 pieces

of M & Ms a day to keep myself from going crazy and feeling unnecesarily

guilty, LOL.

Maggie

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Stay away from Atkins! It is a terrible diet,and not

safe! In addition, everyone I know who has gone on it

has gained all the weight back, and then some!

Eat what you like, just in moderation and make

substitues when you can, and make the substitutions

gradually. For example, I used to order footlong

sandwiches at Subway, now I order 6 inches.

For sweets, eat fruit and drink herbal tea with less

or no sugar. Sugar substitutes are cancer causing

chemicals, so you're better off with the real thing

than the fake. I get sugar cravings too, so I know it

can be tough. There are some sorbet ice creams that

have no fat that I think might be okay to eat too,

again in moderation.

Trader Joes, if you have them in your area, have a lot

of organic and vegetarian options if you want to eat

healthy, but beware, they have a lot of fattening

stuff too, as does any store.

You can make spaghetti and just go easy on the cheese

part.

I'm sure you'll find a way to eat more fruit and

veggies, cut out some fat and eat less. Please don't

go on Atkins, the artery cloggging, sure to fail

diet!!

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i hate atkins but i've done it before and it is a

surefire way to lose the pounds i want to before my

vacation. Timing and stress (along with schedule)

didn't allow for much dieting the past couple months

and i am determined to lose some lbs before my trip.

So i'm doing atkins for now. Will get back to weight

watchers and continue losing more healthfully.

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as long as you do not stop.

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artery clogging - yeah if u load up on fats..yucko

i'm doing a 'modified' version with just veggies and

chicken breasts but in atkins allowable amounts!

i'm new to eating meat i dont like anything other than chicken.

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as long as you do not stop.

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hi kris,

i love chix myself but i would also recommend fish. salmon and tilapia are my favorites i will also have tuna fresh or canned. fish is low cal, healthy fats, and loaded with that good ole' protien to help with energy/lean muscle building. its good with a little dry herbs or tossed with some romaine and cherry tomatoes for a salad with splash of balsamic vinegar.mmmmm getting hungry better stop now.

kassia

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oooooh sounds heavenly!

I love fish but its pretty hard to find (yes i live on

an island) I hate the frozen stuff (often tastes too

fishy) and where i live i guess may be too 'city' to

find fresh fish :( But i take it when i can get it ..yumma:D

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Kris, you just have to make up your mind to stay away from the "bad" food. Maybe trying putting a skinny pic of yourself on the cabinet or ref. doors to keep you from going in it.

Good Luck,

Jen

kris alcs <chromechairs@...> wrote:

I feel like the biggest idiot right now.I allowed my mom ( who was visiting for the weekend)to go grocery shopping for me today so i could doother things.I told her what to get. She got the total opposite.Everything carby and sugary that i wont be able toresist on atkins induction when the sugar cravingsstart.I was so angry and felt so out of control i probablyhad a bite of everything.I am completely annoyed at myself. I am going to workout double tomorrow to make up and i AM going to doatkins regardless.I am just going to try to ignore the sweet stuff...Idon't know how but i will try my best.Does anyone have coping mechanisms to stay away from'bad' food?Kris.http://pixelated24.blogspot.comIt does not matter how slowly you go,as long as you do

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