Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Happy Birthday to you - what a great day to have a birhtday Margaret Re: Happy birthday And my birthday too, so today is a good day for women. We are great at support and sharing of our skills and talents and really useful information. SENATE has been great in keeping everyone up to speed on changes the minute they happen. well done sarah and everyone Jeanette Cowley <sarah@...> wrote: Happy birthday to Senate; six years old today. The need to exchange information to try and bridge the 'policy-practice gap' seems as great today as it did then. Thanks to all contributers, and let's keep exchanging news and views.It is also International Women's Day, which is a happy coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Happy Birthday Senate and thank you Senates Mother and Midwife Happy birthday > Happy birthday to Senate; six years old today. The need to exchange > information to try and bridge the 'policy-practice gap' seems as great > today as it did then. Thanks to all contributers, and let's keep > exchanging news and views. > > It is also International Women's Day, which is a happy coincidence. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Thats The Spirit!!!..Have a safe 4th... happy birthday HAPPY 4 TH OF JULY & HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE GROUP.HUGS TO ALL Jeffp/s we are going to kick the dragon's butt all together!!!I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 3742 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Thats The Spirit!!!..Have a safe 4th... happy birthday HAPPY 4 TH OF JULY & HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE GROUP.HUGS TO ALL Jeffp/s we are going to kick the dragon's butt all together!!!I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 3742 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the skills and energy of our excellent convenor! From: Cowley <sarahcowley183@...> Date sent: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:08:11 +0000 Send reply to: Subject: Happy birthday [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] --Apple-Mail-17--1048774747 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Happy birthday to Senate, born on 8th March 2000, which=20=20 coincidentally is International Women's Day. Happy Women's day, too!. Old-timers who have been around since the early might recall a=20=20 discussion when someone posted a message requesting permission to=20=20 examine a week's posting for a research project. I never heard=20=20 anything more, but came across this paper (excerpt below) in which=20=20 Senate features highly as of three case studies. The interpretations=20=20 are not all completely accurate, but near enough, I think. I found=20=20 the whole paper fascinating; the piece about Senate is pasted below. best wishes Reference: Greene, Anne-Marie and Kirton Gill. Possibilities for=20=20 remote participation in trade unions: mobilising women activists. = =20 2003: Industrial Relations Journal 34:4, 319-333 Health visitors=92 and staff (sic) nurses=92 electronic discussion forum This case study is of an electronic discussion forum called SENATE-=20 HVSN set up in March 2000 in order to function as =91an enabling=20=20 mechanism for health visitors and school nurses for interactive=20=20 involvement and networking=92 (SENATE-=20 HVSN/files/Constitution/Constitution). The forum is significant for=20=20 the purposes of this article because (as a consequence of the female=20=20 dominated nature of the professions involved) the forum is=20=20 predominantly female. In addition, while not directly connected to a=20=20 trade union, nor set up as a trade union forum, the =20=20 membership has strong connections to the Community Practitioners=92 and = =20 Health Visitors=92 Association (CPHVA), an autonomous section of the=20=20 union Amicus-MSF Section, which covers health visitors and school=20=20 nurses. According to its constitution, the forum was set up to serve=20=20 a number of key purposes: to act as a voice mechanism for a=20=20 professional body; to provide an interactive discussion group; to=20=20 influence policy-making with regard to their profession; and to provide clarity of purpose as a professional body. While convention would suggest that discussion forums often suffer=20=20 from lack of usage after an initial flurry of interest, to the=20=20 contrary, since its founding, SENATEHVSN has grown from strength to=20=20 strength. It has 267 currently registered members, of which at least=20=20 28 have registered in the first three months of 2003 alone. It is=20=20 also well used=97over the three-year period to 20 March 2003, 5173=20=20 messages have been posted (increasing rapidly from the two postings=20=20 in the first month to a monthly average of 148). The success of the=20=20 forum has spawned the development of connected specialist electronic=20=20 forums such as on parenting and family and another for practice nurses. As a Group, the forum is completely free of set-up,=20=20 administration, and maintenance charges, and after the initial effort=20=20 by the founder, and certain people responsible for constructing a=20=20 hard copy, a =91Digest=92 of postings has developed on a widely=20=20 distributed basis by the wider membership. With regard to the ability=20=20 to engage in public debates from domestic spaces, and thus overcome=20=20 time/space/place constraints, the forum is accessed both from home=20=20 and work. From a random sample of one week=92s postings (in the first=20=20 week of February 2003), there were 27 messages within working hours=20=20 (8am until 6pm, Monday-Friday) and 38 posted outside of these hours.=20=20 It is clear that some members log on several times a day, they post=20=20 messages and enter discussions at the weekend, and there were around=20=20 ten messages which were posted late at night or in the very early=20=20 hours of the morning. Looking at the timing of messages, some members=20=20 obviously logged onto the forum from both home and work. The forum demonstrates the way in which conventional activities=20=20 (associated with union activism) are complemented by the ICT forum.=20=20 Evidence of collaborative and collective activities is found=20=20 throughout the message archive. For example messages over the first=20=20 few months of the forum=92s existence indicate that the constitution of = =20 was jointly constructed by members. Members also use the=20=20 forum as a campaigning and mobilising mechanism around professional=20=20 issues, for example, to share research information, contacts, and calls for research funding.=20=20 The forum also provides publicity and opportunities to garner support=20=20 for current campaigns: for instance, drafts of memos and papers to be=20=20 presented at policy-making meetings are shared for comment and=20=20 suggestions by members. The relationship of the forum to the union movement is also something=20=20 that is commented upon by members. Within the original discussions=20=20 for the constitution, one message states: SENATE is not an employee representative organisation, but a=20=20 professional institution which does not seek to compete with trade unions in those areas where their role=20=20 is invaluable. Successful trade unions with the economies of scale needed for effective indemnity and=20=20 employment representation services are necessarily large and complex and faced with the=20=20 difficulty of speaking for a wide and diverse range of professional practice. There is a risk that=20=20 effective professional perspectives can be lost or narrowed. This is an effective use of new technology=20=20 to ensure that it can be maintained Thus the forum has been a response to the perception that it was=20=20 difficult to achieve a professional voice within the official union=20=20 hierarchy. Indeed, one of the events during the forum=92s life has been = =20 the 2002 campaign against the Government=92s decision to remove the=20=20 statutory status of health visitors as a profession. Some forum=20=20 members felt that Amicus-MSF (their union) had not fought strenuously=20=20 enough against this decision. Outside of the official union channels=20=20 therefore, the online technology had played a major part in=20=20 campaigning against the legislation. Indeed one forum member=20=20 indicated that such a campaign could not have been conducted without=20=20 the internet due to the dispersed nature of the profession.3 It is=20=20 significant that the CPHVA pages of the Amicus web site do not=20=20 provide a link to the forum, even though the messages indicate=20=20 clearly that the forum is well known within the union hierarchy. This=20=20 indicates that the official union hierarchy is not endorsing the=20=20 forum=92s existence. In recognition of the potential for forum membership growth, a Digest=20=20 of recent postings (noted earlier) for printing as hard copy is=20=20 produced on a regular basis. This can be circulated by members, and=20=20 acts as a recruitment device to the forum. The reputation of the=20=20 forum is such that members have commented in postings that it=20=20 receives regular mention at CPHVA executive meetings. In addition, at=20=20 least two physical meetings of members are organised each=20=20 year, the proceedings of which members are invited to contribute to=20=20 in an online form, before and after the meeting takes place. In summary, is an example of a successful and thriving=20=20 electronic forum, linked to but not controlled by the relevant trade=20=20 union, which is dominated by women, and indicates the potential that=20=20 ICTs have for developing debate, sharing information and resources,=20=20 and mobilising support for campaigns. It is clear that the members of=20=20 this forum are predominantly professionals, and fit into the=20=20 socioeconomic bracket, which is likely to have higher access to ICTs,=20=20 both at work and at home. Although the forum was unsuccessful in=20=20 revoking the loss of health visitors=92 statutory professional status,=20=20 it could be argued that is now even more important as a=20=20 forum in order to maintain and develop the professional identity of=20=20 this group. While often takes up parallel and=20=20 complementary campaigns to the trade union, the forum also indicates=20=20 the potential of ICTs to develop coordinated responses and challenges=20=20 to mainstream union policies, providing a space for dissenting female=20=20 voices in a male dominated context. sarahcowley183@... http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn --Apple-Mail-17--1048774747 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd " > <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D " background-color: #ffffff; " > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D " ygrp-mlmsg " style=3D " width:655px; position:relative; " > <div id=3D " ygrp-msg " style=3D " width: 490px; padding: 0 15px 0 0; float:le= ft; z-index:1; " > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D " ygrp-text " > <p>Happy birthday to Senate, born on 8th March 2000, which coin= cidentally is International Women's Day.=A0 Happy Women's day, too!.=A0=A0<= DIV><BR class=3D " khtml-block-placeholder " ></DIV><DIV>Old-timers who have be= en around since the early might recall a discussion when someone posted a m= essage requesting permission to examine a week's posting for a research pro= ject.=A0 I never heard anything more, but came across this paper (excerpt b= elow) in which Senate features highly as of three case studies.=A0 The inte= rpretations are not all completely accurate, but near enough, I think.=A0 I= found the whole paper fascinating;=A0 the piece about Senate is pasted bel= ow.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D " khtml-block-placeholder " ></DIV><DIV>best wishes<= /DIV><DIV><BR class=3D " khtml-block-placeholder " ></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>= <BR class=3D " khtml-block-placeholder " ></DIV><DIV><BR class=3D " khtml-block-p= laceholder " ></DIV><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " >Reference:=A0= Greene, Anne-Marie and Kirton Gill.<SPAN>=A0 </SPAN>Possibilities for remo= te participation in trade unions: <SPAN>=A0</SPAN>mobilising women activist= s.<SPAN>=A0=A0 </SPAN>2003:<SPAN>=A0 </SPAN>Industrial Relations Journal 34= :4, 319-333<O></O></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><F= ONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " App= le-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >=A0</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lan= g=3D " EN-US " ><B><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><= SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >Health visitors= =92 and staff (sic) nurses=92 electronic discussion forum</SPAN></FONT></B>= <FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " A= pple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P= ><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-spa= n " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font= -size: 11px; " >=A0</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " A= pple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " = style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >This case study is of an electronic discussion = forum called set up in March 2000 in order to function as =91an= enabling mechanism for health visitors and school nurses for interactive i= nvolvement and networking=92 (<A href=3D " SENA= TE-HVSN/files/Constitution/Constitution " >http://groups.<wbr>/<wbr>= group/SENATE-<wbr>HVSN/files/<wbr>Constitution/<wbr>Constitution</A>). The = forum is significant for the purposes of this article because (as a consequ= ence of the female dominated nature of the professions involved) the forum = is predominantly female. In addition, while not directly connected to a tra= de union, nor set up as a trade union forum, the membership has= strong connections to the Community Practitioners=92 and Health Visitors= =92 Association (CPHVA), an autonomous section of the union Amicus-MSF Sect= ion, which covers health visitors and school nurses. According to its const= itution, the forum was set up to serve a number of key purposes: to act as = a voice mechanism for a professional body; to provide an interactive discus= sion group; to influence policy-making with regard to their profession; and= </SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><S= PAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></F= ONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " A= pple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " = style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >to provide clarity of purpose as a professional= body.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D= " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SP= AN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT clas= s=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style= -span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >While convention would suggest that discu= ssion forums often suffer from lack of usage after an initial flurry of int= erest, to the contrary, since its founding, SENATEHVSN has grown from stren= gth to strength. It has 267 currently registered members, of which at least= 28 have registered in the first three months of 2003 alone. It is also wel= l used=97over the three-year period to 20 March 2003, 5173 messages have be= en posted (increasing rapidly from the two postings in the first month to a= monthly average of 148). The success of the forum has spawned the developm= ent of connected specialist electronic forums such as on parenting and fami= ly and another for practice nurses.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style= -span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " = font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><S= PAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " = 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >As a G= roup, the forum is completely free of set-up, administration, and maintenan= ce charges, and after the initial effort by the founder, and certain people= responsible for constructing a hard copy, a =91Digest=92 of postings has d= eveloped on a widely distributed basis by the wider membership. With regard= to the ability to engage in public debates from domestic spaces, and thus = overcome time/space/place constraints, the forum is accessed both from home= and work. From a random sample of one week=92s postings (in the first week= of February 2003), there were 27 messages within working hours (8am until = 6pm, Monday-Friday) and 38 posted outside of these hours. It is clear that = some members log on several times a day, they post messages and enter discu= ssions at the weekend, and there were around ten messages which were posted= late at night or in the very early hours of the morning. Looking at the ti= ming of messages, some members obviously logged onto the forum from both ho= me and work.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " s= ize=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></= O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FON= T class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple= -style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >The forum demonstrates the way in w= hich conventional activities (associated with union activism) are complemen= ted by the ICT forum. Evidence of collaborative and collective activities i= s found throughout the message archive. For example messages over the first= few months of the forum=92s existence indicate that the constitution of SE= NATE-HVSN was jointly constructed by members. Members also use the forum as= a campaigning and mobilising mechanism around professional issues, for exa= mple, to</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size= =3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O><= /SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT c= lass=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-st= yle-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >share research information, contacts, = and calls for research funding. The forum also provides publicity and oppor= tunities to garner support for current campaigns: for instance, drafts of m= emos and papers to be presented at policy-making meetings are shared for co= mment and suggestions by members.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-s= pan " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " fo= nt-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPA= N lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " = ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >The relationsh= ip of the forum to the union movement is also something that is commented u= pon by members. Within the original discussions for the constitution, one m= essage states:</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " = size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O>= </O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><F= ONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " App= le-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >SENATE is not an employee represe= ntative organisation, but a professional institution which does</SPAN></FON= T><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D= " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><= /P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-s= pan " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " fo= nt-size: 11px; " >not seek to compete with trade unions in those areas where = their role is invaluable. Successful trade</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Appl= e-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " st= yle=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNor= mal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " s= ize=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >union= s with the economies of scale needed for effective indemnity and employment= representation</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial= " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O= ></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><= FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Ap= ple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >services are necessarily large a= nd complex and faced with the difficulty of speaking for a wide</SPAN></FON= T><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D= " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><= /P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-s= pan " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " fo= nt-size: 11px; " >and diverse range of professional practice. There is a risk= that effective professional perspectives</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple= -style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " sty= le=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNorm= al " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " si= ze=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >can be= lost or narrowed. This is an effective use of new technology to ensure tha= t it can be</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " si= ze=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O= ></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT= class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-= style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >maintained</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN= lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " >= <SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><O></O></SPAN><= /FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D= " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-spa= n " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >Thus the forum has been a response to the per= ception that it was difficult to achieve a professional voice within the of= ficial union hierarchy. Indeed, one of the events during the forum=92s life= has been the 2002 campaign against the Government=92s decision to remove t= he statutory status of health visitors as a profession. Some forum members = felt that Amicus-MSF (their union) had not fought strenuously enough agains= t this decision. Outside of the official union channels therefore, the onli= ne technology had played a major part in campaigning against the legislatio= n. Indeed one forum member indicated that such a campaign could not have be= en conducted without the internet due to the dispersed nature of the profes= sion.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-s= pan " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " fo= nt-size: 11px; " >3 </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " ><FONT class=3D " = Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span= " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >It is significant that the CPHVA pages of the = Amicus web site do not provide a link to the forum, even though the message= s indicate clearly that the forum is well known within the union hierarchy.= This indicates that the official union hierarchy is not endorsing the foru= m=92s existence.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Aria= l " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " Apple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " ><= O></O></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P><P class=3D " MsoNormal " ><SPAN lang=3D " EN-US " >= <FONT class=3D " Apple-style-span " face=3D " Arial " size=3D " 3 " ><SPAN class=3D " A= pple-style-span " style=3D " font-size: 11px; " >In recognition of the potential= for forum membership growth, a Digest of recent postings (noted earlier) f= or printing as hard copy is produced on a regular basis. This can be circul= ated by members, and acts as a recruitment device to the forum. The reputat= ion of the forum is such that members have commented in postings that it re= ceives regular mention at CPHVA executive meetings. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the skills and energy of our excellent convenor!. sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Hi That is fascinating and I intend to look at the whole article. Having been a founder member - I think we should congratulate ourselves on what we have achieved and being me - what it is possible to achieve in the future. I picked something up in the HSJ about Social Movement which is being developed by the NHS Institute ( the outcome of the Modernisation Agency) in respect of the change agenda in the NHS and how you do it. Apparently there is a lot of literature going way back into the 20th century around social movement and the Institute think it is something that could be used to bring change into the NHS. I have to say on reading it - it is what I have been trying to do for the last 20 years and certainly how I worked at the HVA and now in my consultancy but it is interesting as the suffragettes, who were very much part of the development of health visiting and the anti psychiatry movement of R.D. Laing are seen as social movements as is Luther King and the anti abortion campaign in the States. It is all well worth a read and I think is now being developed by the Institute into their Thinking Differently work. I am saying the above as I think SENATE could be classed as a Social Movement (as would the work we are doing with UKPHA to regenerate health visiting) and in the future may be seen as very significant process and organsiation. Margaret Happy birthday Happy birthday to Senate, born on 8th March 2000, which coincidentally is International Women's Day. Happy Women's day, too!. Old-timers who have been around since the early might recall a discussion when someone posted a message requesting permission to examine a week's posting for a research project. I never heard anything more, but came across this paper (excerpt below) in which Senate features highly as of three case studies. The interpretations are not all completely accurate, but near enough, I think. I found the whole paper fascinating; the piece about Senate is pasted below. best wishes Reference: Greene, Anne-Marie and Kirton Gill. Possibilities for remote participation in trade unions: mobilising women activists. 2003: Industrial Relations Journal 34:4, 319-333 Health visitors’ and staff (sic) nurses’ electronic discussion forum This case study is of an electronic discussion forum called set up in March 2000 in order to function as ‘an enabling mechanism for health visitors and school nurses for interactive involvement and networking’ (/files/Constitution/Constitution). The forum is significant for the purposes of this article because (as a consequence of the female dominated nature of the professions involved) the forum is predominantly female. In addition, while not directly connected to a trade union, nor set up as a trade union forum, the membership has strong connections to the Community Practitioners’ and Health Visitors’ Association (CPHVA), an autonomous section of the union Amicus-MSF Section, which covers health visitors and school nurses. According to its constitution, the forum was set up to serve a number of key purposes: to act as a voice mechanism for a professional body; to provide an interactive discussion group; to influence policy-making with regard to their profession; and to provide clarity of purpose as a professional body. While convention would suggest that discussion forums often suffer from lack of usage after an initial flurry of interest, to the contrary, since its founding, SENATEHVSN has grown from strength to strength. It has 267 currently registered members, of which at least 28 have registered in the first three months of 2003 alone. It is also well used—over the three-year period to 20 March 2003, 5173 messages have been posted (increasing rapidly from the two postings in the first month to a monthly average of 148). The success of the forum has spawned the development of connected specialist electronic forums such as on parenting and family and another for practice nurses. As a Group, the forum is completely free of set-up, administration, and maintenance charges, and after the initial effort by the founder, and certain people responsible for constructing a hard copy, a ‘Digest’ of postings has developed on a widely distributed basis by the wider membership. With regard to the ability to engage in public debates from domestic spaces, and thus overcome time/space/place constraints, the forum is accessed both from home and work. From a random sample of one week’s postings (in the first week of February 2003), there were 27 messages within working hours (8am until 6pm, Monday-Friday) and 38 posted outside of these hours. It is clear that some members log on several times a day, they post messages and enter discussions at the weekend, and there were around ten messages which were posted late at night or in the very early hours of the morning. Looking at the timing of messages, some members obviously logged onto the forum from both home and work. The forum demonstrates the way in which conventional activities (associated with union activism) are complemented by the ICT forum. Evidence of collaborative and collective activities is found throughout the message archive. For example messages over the first few months of the forum’s existence indicate that the constitution of was jointly constructed by members. Members also use the forum as a campaigning and mobilising mechanism around professional issues, for example, to share research information, contacts, and calls for research funding. The forum also provides publicity and opportunities to garner support for current campaigns: for instance, drafts of memos and papers to be presented at policy-making meetings are shared for comment and suggestions by members. The relationship of the forum to the union movement is also something that is commented upon by members. Within the original discussions for the constitution, one message states: SENATE is not an employee representative organisation, but a professional institution which does not seek to compete with trade unions in those areas where their role is invaluable. Successful trade unions with the economies of scale needed for effective indemnity and employment representation services are necessarily large and complex and faced with the difficulty of speaking for a wide and diverse range of professional practice. There is a risk that effective professional perspectives can be lost or narrowed. This is an effective use of new technology to ensure that it can be maintained Thus the forum has been a response to the perception that it was difficult to achieve a professional voice within the official union hierarchy. Indeed, one of the events during the forum’s life has been the 2002 campaign against the Government’s decision to remove the statutory status of health visitors as a profession. Some forum members felt that Amicus-MSF (their union) had not fought strenuously enough against this decision. Outside of the official union channels therefore, the online technology had played a major part in campaigning against the legislation. Indeed one forum member indicated that such a campaign could not have been conducted without the internet due to the dispersed nature of the profession.3 It is significant that the CPHVA pages of the Amicus web site do not provide a link to the forum, even though the messages indicate clearly that the forum is well known within the union hierarchy. This indicates that the official union hierarchy is not endorsing the forum’s existence. In recognition of the potential for forum membership growth, a Digest of recent postings (noted earlier) for printing as hard copy is produced on a regular basis. This can be circulated by members, and acts as a recruitment device to the forum. The reputation of the forum is such that members have commented in postings that it receives regular mention at CPHVA executive meetings. In addition, at least two physical meetings of members are organised each year, the proceedings of which members are invited to contribute to in an online form, before and after the meeting takes place. In summary, is an example of a successful and thriving electronic forum, linked to but not controlled by the relevant trade union, which is dominated by women, and indicates the potential that ICTs have for developing debate, sharing information and resources, and mobilising support for campaigns. It is clear that the members of this forum are predominantly professionals, and fit into the socioeconomic bracket, which is likely to have higher access to ICTs, both at work and at home. Although the forum was unsuccessful in revoking the loss of health visitors’ statutory professional status, it could be argued that is now even more important as a forum in order to maintain and develop the professional identity of this group. While often takes up parallel and complementary campaigns to the trade union, the forum also indicates the potential of ICTs to develop coordinated responses and challenges to mainstream union policies, providing a space for dissenting female voices in a male dominated context. sarahcowley183btinternet http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing " out of the box " thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know that at least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm Rigler On Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishes On 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote: > Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the > skills and energy of our excellent convenor! > > . > > > sarahcowley183@... http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 In case anyone else is interested in the whole thing, I attach the paper. On 7 Mar 2008, at 20:50, Margaret Buttigieg wrote:Hi That is fascinating and I intend to look at the whole article. Having been a founder member - I think we should congratulate ourselves on what we have achieved and being me - what it is possible to achieve in the future. I picked something up in the HSJ about Social Movement which is being developed by the NHS Institute ( the outcome of the Modernisation Agency) in respect of the change agenda in the NHS and how you do it. Apparently there is a lot of literature going way back into the 20th century around social movement and the Institute think it is something that could be used to bring change into the NHS. I have to say on reading it - it is what I have been trying to do for the last 20 years and certainly how I worked at the HVA and now in my consultancy but it is interesting as the suffragettes, who were very much part of the development of health visiting and the anti psychiatry movement of R.D. Laing are seen as social movements as is Luther King and the anti abortion campaign in the States. It is all well worth a read and I think is now being developed by the Institute into their Thinking Differently work. I am saying the above as I think SENATE could be classed as a Social Movement (as would the work we are doing with UKPHA to regenerate health visiting) and in the future may be seen as very significant process and organsiation. Margaret Happy birthdayHappy birthday to Senate, born on 8th March 2000, which coincidentally is International Women's Day. Happy Women's day, too!. Old-timers who have been around since the early might recall a discussion when someone posted a message requesting permission to examine a week's posting for a research project. I never heard anything more, but came across this paper (excerpt below) in which Senate features highly as of three case studies. The interpretations are not all completely accurate, but near enough, I think. I found the whole paper fascinating; the piece about Senate is pasted below.best wishesReference: Greene, Anne-Marie and Kirton Gill. Possibilities for remote participation in trade unions: mobilising women activists. 2003: Industrial Relations Journal 34:4, 319-333 Health visitors’ and staff (sic) nurses’ electronic discussion forum This case study is of an electronic discussion forum called set up in March 2000 in order to function as ‘an enabling mechanism for health visitors and school nurses for interactive involvement and networking’ (/files/Constitution/Constitution). The forum is significant for the purposes of this article because (as a consequence of the female dominated nature of the professions involved) the forum is predominantly female. In addition, while not directly connected to a trade union, nor set up as a trade union forum, the membership has strong connections to the Community Practitioners’ and Health Visitors’ Association (CPHVA), an autonomous section of the union Amicus-MSF Section, which covers health visitors and school nurses. According to its constitution, the forum was set up to serve a number of key purposes: to act as a voice mechanism for a professional body; to provide an interactive discussion group; to influence policy-making with regard to their profession; andto provide clarity of purpose as a professional body.While convention would suggest that discussion forums often suffer from lack of usage after an initial flurry of interest, to the contrary, since its founding, SENATEHVSN has grown from strength to strength. It has 267 currently registered members, of which at least 28 have registered in the first three months of 2003 alone. It is also well used—over the three-year period to 20 March 2003, 5173 messages have been posted (increasing rapidly from the two postings in the first month to a monthly average of 148). The success of the forum has spawned the development of connected specialist electronic forums such as on parenting and family and another for practice nurses.As a Group, the forum is completely free of set-up, administration, and maintenance charges, and after the initial effort by the founder, and certain people responsible for constructing a hard copy, a ‘Digest’ of postings has developed on a widely distributed basis by the wider membership. With regard to the ability to engage in public debates from domestic spaces, and thus overcome time/space/place constraints, the forum is accessed both from home and work. From a random sample of one week’s postings (in the first week of February 2003), there were 27 messages within working hours (8am until 6pm, Monday-Friday) and 38 posted outside of these hours. It is clear that some members log on several times a day, they post messages and enter discussions at the weekend, and there were around ten messages which were posted late at night or in the very early hours of the morning. Looking at the timing of messages, some members obviously logged onto the forum from both home and work.The forum demonstrates the way in which conventional activities (associated with union activism) are complemented by the ICT forum. Evidence of collaborative and collective activities is found throughout the message archive. For example messages over the first few months of the forum’s existence indicate that the constitution of was jointly constructed by members. Members also use the forum as a campaigning and mobilising mechanism around professional issues, for example, toshare research information, contacts, and calls for research funding. The forum also provides publicity and opportunities to garner support for current campaigns: for instance, drafts of memos and papers to be presented at policy-making meetings are shared for comment and suggestions by members.The relationship of the forum to the union movement is also something that is commented upon by members. Within the original discussions for the constitution, one message states:SENATE is not an employee representative organisation, but a professional institution which doesnot seek to compete with trade unions in those areas where their role is invaluable. Successful tradeunions with the economies of scale needed for effective indemnity and employment representationservices are necessarily large and complex and faced with the difficulty of speaking for a wideand diverse range of professional practice. There is a risk that effective professional perspectivescan be lost or narrowed. This is an effective use of new technology to ensure that it can bemaintainedThus the forum has been a response to the perception that it was difficult to achieve a professional voice within the official union hierarchy. Indeed, one of the events during the forum’s life has been the 2002 campaign against the Government’s decision to remove the statutory status of health visitors as a profession. Some forum members felt that Amicus-MSF (their union) had not fought strenuously enough against this decision. Outside of the official union channels therefore, the online technology had played a major part in campaigning against the legislation. Indeed one forum member indicated that such a campaign could not have been conducted without the internet due to the dispersed nature of the profession.3 It is significant that the CPHVA pages of the Amicus web site do not provide a link to the forum, even though the messages indicate clearly that the forum is well known within the union hierarchy. This indicates that the official union hierarchy is not endorsing the forum’s existence.In recognition of the potential for forum membership growth, a Digest of recent postings (noted earlier) for printing as hard copy is produced on a regular basis. This can be circulated by members, and acts as a recruitment device to the forum. The reputation of the forum is such that members have commented in postings that it receives regular mention at CPHVA executive meetings. In addition, at least two physical meetings of members are organised each year, the proceedings of which members are invited to contribute to in an online form, before and after the meeting takes place.In summary, is an example of a successful and thriving electronic forum, linked to but not controlled by the relevant trade union, which is dominated by women, and indicates the potential that ICTs have for developing debate, sharing information and resources, and mobilising support for campaigns. It is clear that the members of this forum are predominantly professionals, and fit into the socioeconomic bracket, which is likely to have higher access to ICTs, both at work and at home. Although the forum was unsuccessful in revoking the loss of health visitors’ statutory professional status, it could be argued that is now even more important as a forum in order to maintain and develop the professional identity of this group. While often takes up parallel and complementary campaigns to the trade union, the forum also indicates the potential of ICTs to develop coordinated responses and challenges to mainstream union policies, providing a space for dissenting female voices in a male dominated context. sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn'>http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, there are always lots of knowledgeable people out there to respond to almost anything we ask! So thanks to one and all. On 8 Mar 2008, at 08:34, M.Rigler@... wrote:Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing "out of the box" thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know thatat least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm RiglerOn Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:> Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the> skills and energy of our excellent convenor!>> .>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Happy birthday to SENATE and may there be growth and renewal in the coming years. Its a wonderful forum and provides stimulation beyond other discussion groups. Thanks for your continuing guiding light! >>> Cowley <sarahcowley183@...> 07/03/2008 12:08 >>> Happy birthday to Senate, born on 8th March 2000, which coincidentally is International Women's Day. Happy Women's day, too!. Old-timers who have been around since the early might recall a discussion when someone posted a message requesting permission to examine a week's posting for a research project. I never heard anything more, but came across this paper (excerpt below) in which Senate features highly as of three case studies. The interpretations are not all completely accurate, but near enough, I think. I found the whole paper fascinating; the piece about Senate is pasted below. best wishes Reference: Greene, Anne-Marie and Kirton Gill. Possibilities for remote participation in trade unions: mobilising women activists. 2003: Industrial Relations Journal 34:4, 319-333 Health visitors’ and staff (sic) nurses’ electronic discussion forum This case study is of an electronic discussion forum called SENATE- HVSN set up in March 2000 in order to function as ‘an enabling mechanism for health visitors and school nurses for interactive involvement and networking’ (SENATE- HVSN/files/Constitution/Constitution). The forum is significant for the purposes of this article because (as a consequence of the female dominated nature of the professions involved) the forum is predominantly female. In addition, while not directly connected to a trade union, nor set up as a trade union forum, the membership has strong connections to the Community Practitioners’ and Health Visitors’ Association (CPHVA), an autonomous section of the union Amicus-MSF Section, which covers health visitors and school nurses. According to its constitution, the forum was set up to serve a number of key purposes: to act as a voice mechanism for a professional body; to provide an interactive discussion group; to influence policy-making with regard to their profession; and to provide clarity of purpose as a professional body. While convention would suggest that discussion forums often suffer from lack of usage after an initial flurry of interest, to the contrary, since its founding, SENATEHVSN has grown from strength to strength. It has 267 currently registered members, of which at least 28 have registered in the first three months of 2003 alone. It is also well used—over the three-year period to 20 March 2003, 5173 messages have been posted (increasing rapidly from the two postings in the first month to a monthly average of 148). The success of the forum has spawned the development of connected specialist electronic forums such as on parenting and family and another for practice nurses. As a Group, the forum is completely free of set-up, administration, and maintenance charges, and after the initial effort by the founder, and certain people responsible for constructing a hard copy, a ‘Digest’ of postings has developed on a widely distributed basis by the wider membership. With regard to the ability to engage in public debates from domestic spaces, and thus overcome time/space/place constraints, the forum is accessed both from home and work. From a random sample of one week’s postings (in the first week of February 2003), there were 27 messages within working hours (8am until 6pm, Monday-Friday) and 38 posted outside of these hours. It is clear that some members log on several times a day, they post messages and enter discussions at the weekend, and there were around ten messages which were posted late at night or in the very early hours of the morning. Looking at the t iming of messages, some members obviously logged onto the forum from both home and work. The forum demonstrates the way in which conventional activities (associated with union activism) are complemented by the ICT forum. Evidence of collaborative and collective activities is found throughout the message archive. For example messages over the first few months of the forum’s existence indicate that the constitution of was jointly constructed by members. Members also use the forum as a campaigning and mobilising mechanism around professional issues, for example, to share research information, contacts, and calls for research funding. The forum also provides publicity and opportunities to garner support for current campaigns: for instance, drafts of memos and papers to be presented at policy-making meetings are shared for comment and suggestions by members. The relationship of the forum to the union movement is also something that is commented upon by members. Within the original discussions for the constitution, one message states: SENATE is not an employee representative organisation, but a professional institution which does not seek to compete with trade unions in those areas where their role is invaluable. Successful trade unions with the economies of scale needed for effective indemnity and employment representation services are necessarily large and complex and faced with the difficulty of speaking for a wide and diverse range of professional practice. There is a risk that effective professional perspectives can be lost or narrowed. This is an effective use of new technology to ensure that it can be maintained Thus the forum has been a response to the perception that it was difficult to achieve a professional voice within the official union hierarchy. Indeed, one of the events during the forum’s life has been the 2002 campaign against the Government’s decision to remove the statutory status of health visitors as a profession. Some forum members felt that Amicus-MSF (their union) had not fought strenuously enough against this decision. Outside of the official union channels therefore, the online technology had played a major part in campaigning against the legislation. Indeed one forum member indicated that such a campaign could not have been conducted without the internet due to the dispersed nature of the profession.3 It is significant that the CPHVA pages of the Amicus web site do not provide a link to the forum, even though the messages indicate clearly that the forum is well known within the union hierarchy. This indicates that the official union hierarchy is not endorsing the forum’s existence. In recognition of the potential for forum membership growth, a Digest of recent postings (noted earlier) for printing as hard copy is produced on a regular basis. This can be circulated by members, and acts as a recruitment device to the forum. The reputation of the forum is such that members have commented in postings that it receives regular mention at CPHVA executive meetings. In addition, at least two physical meetings of members are organised each year, the proceedings of which members are invited to contribute to in an online form, before and after the meeting takes place. In summary, is an example of a successful and thriving electronic forum, linked to but not controlled by the relevant trade union, which is dominated by women, and indicates the potential that ICTs have for developing debate, sharing information and resources, and mobilising support for campaigns. It is clear that the members of this forum are predominantly professionals, and fit into the socioeconomic bracket, which is likely to have higher access to ICTs, both at work and at home. Although the forum was unsuccessful in revoking the loss of health visitors’ statutory professional status, it could be argued that is now even more important as a forum in order to maintain and develop the professional identity of this group. While often takes up parallel and complementary campaigns to the trade union, the forum also indicates the potential of ICTs to develop coordinated responses and challenges to mainstream union policies, providing a space for dissenting female voices in a male dominated context. sarahcowley183@... http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Dear Sending Belated Birthday wishes to SENATE and Many Congratulations personally to you for the excellent work that you do in managing and facilitating, what has to be said,' is a highly professional, academic service that keeps so many of us 'up to speed,' with our knowledge of primary care issues. You are the best! Joan x Dr Joan Ashdown-Lambert PhD MPhil FRSH Dip RHV RN Director/ Research Consultant Collaborative Research Solutions Ltd Tel: 01745-853577 Mobile: 07765-447481 > From:: Cowley <sarahcowley183@...>> > Subject: Re: Happy birthday> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:59:40 +0000 Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, there are always lots of knowledgeable people out there to respond to almost anything we ask! So thanks to one and all. On 8 Mar 2008, at 08:34, M.Rigleric24 (DOT) net wrote: Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing "out of the box" thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know thatat least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm RiglerOn Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:> Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the> skills and energy of our excellent convenor!>> .>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn /WBR> sarahcowley183btinternet http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I completely concur with that. SENATE is such a valuable resource and I am most grateful to for all the hard work she does in moderating it and keeping us all so well informed. I am often far more aware of the latest developments than many of the senior managers are who attend many of the meetings I go to. Very best wishes and many happy returns Maggie Re: Happy birthday> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:59:40 +0000 Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, there are always lots of knowledgeable people out there to respond to almost anything we ask! So thanks to one and all. On 8 Mar 2008, at 08:34, M.Rigleric24 (DOT) net wrote: Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing "out of the box" thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know thatat least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm RiglerOn Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:> Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the> skills and energy of our excellent convenor!>> .>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn/WBR> sarahcowley183btinternet http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hear hear from all of us at Primhe! Happy Birthday!! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Maggie FisherSent: 11 March 2008 15:31 Subject: Re: Re: Happy birthday I completely concur with that. SENATE is such a valuable resource and I am most grateful to for all the hard work she does in moderating it and keeping us all so well informed. I am often far more aware of the latest developments than many of the senior managers are who attend many of the meetings I go to. Very best wishes and many happy returns Maggie Re: Happy birthday> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:59:40 +0000 Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, there are always lots of knowledgeable people out there to respond to almost anything we ask! So thanks to one and all. On 8 Mar 2008, at 08:34, M.Rigleric24 (DOT) net wrote: Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing "out of the box" thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know thatat least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm RiglerOn Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:> Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the> skills and energy of our excellent convenor!>> .>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn/WBR> sarahcowley183btinternet http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Thanks Joan; very best wishes to you too. On 11 Mar 2008, at 11:23, jalresearchsolutions wrote:Dear Sending Belated Birthday wishes to SENATE and Many Congratulations personally to you for the excellent work that you do in managing and facilitating, what has to be said,' is a highly professional, academic service that keeps so many of us 'up to speed,' with our knowledge of primary care issues. You are the best! Joan xDr Joan Ashdown-LambertPhD MPhil FRSH Dip RHV RN Director/ Research ConsultantCollaborative Research Solutions Ltd Tel: 01745-853577Mobile: 07765-447481 > From:: Cowley <sarahcowley183btinternet>> > Subject: Re: Happy birthday> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:59:40 +0000Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, there are always lots of knowledgeable people out there to respond to almost anything we ask! So thanks to one and all. On 8 Mar 2008, at 08:34, M.Rigleric24 (DOT) net wrote:Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing "out of the box" thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know thatat least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm RiglerOn Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:> Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the> skills and energy of our excellent convenor!>> .>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn/WBR>sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com'>http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn/WBR>sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Thank you Maggie; and everyone who responded.Thanks to everyone on Senate as it really is a combined effort. I just happened to be group 'owner' (horrible language) because 8 years ago had a son who knew how to set the group up!It just shows the power of social networking and how the internet is helping to harness that.On 11 Mar 2008, at 15:31, Maggie Fisher wrote:I completely concur with that. SENATE is such a valuable resource and I am most grateful to for all the hard work she does in moderating it and keeping us all so well informed. I am often far more aware of the latest developments than many of the senior managers are who attend many of the meetings I go to. Very best wishes and many happy returnsMaggie Re: Happy birthday> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:59:40 +0000Thanks, Malcolm. Yes, there are always lots of knowledgeable people out there to respond to almost anything we ask! So thanks to one and all. On 8 Mar 2008, at 08:34, M.Rigleric24 (DOT) net wrote:Yes indeed skill,energy and amazing "out of the box" thinking. Month after month it is such a delight and encouragement to know thatat least within SENATE there is an oasis of sanity and lateral thinking alongside our current target driven primary care system. Thank you for all that you do to keep the show on the road. malcolm Dr Malcolm RiglerOn Mar 7 2008, Cowley wrote: Thank you Liz. best wishesOn 7 Mar 2008, at 12:28, MEERABEAU ELIZABETH wrote:> Very interesting article. They could have also commented on the> skills and energy of our excellent convenor!>> .>>> sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn/WBR>sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com'>http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn/WBR>sarahcowley183btinternethttp://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn sarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear SuZie & Sir SpYke: I love the way you spell your names. I would also like to wish my neighbours from down south a Belatted Happy B-day. SuZie, I was wondering that since you didn't pluralize Canadian; does that mean that Sir SpYke is Can. & your not? Just wondering since I'm also a Can. who has lived in Toronto, Yukon, Quebec, & now New Brunswick. When I was younger, my parents always took us on trips to the U.S. & I have loved it & the people as the neighbours we are. So Happy Canada Day on July 01st & Happy 4th of July U.S.'ers. Donna From: suzie <suzieandsandy@...>Subject: Happy BirthdayHepatitis Cfordummies Received: Friday, July 4, 2008, 3:19 PM Happy Birthday to us, Happy Birthday to us, Happy Birthday you Dummies, Happy Birthday to US!!!! And to you Jon. & to the United States. SuZie & Sir SpYke the Canadian, we had our birthday but he'll celebrate anything if it means cake! Next time I'm coming back as a cat Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi Donna, No we're both Canadian, Sir SpYke was just emphasizing his Canadianism - he's like that, very proud. I'm up in Northwestern Ontario, Thunder Bay to be exact. Mama Gail os on Cape Breton & Dame Anya is in B C. There are other Canadians here but we're the ones that post the most :-) I never go to the States any more - no passport & I'm not spending all that money just to go down there! I started spelling my name with a capital Z 'cause we had another Susie, I always spelt mine with a "z" but people were getting confused anyways. I like the way it looks & started spelling SpYke the same. We like it, especially Sir SpYke the Magnificent, Galactic Overlord In Training, Master of All He Surveys. Welcome to the Family, fellow Cannuck, SuZie & Sir SpYke the Incredible, fuzzy, happy & sleeping. Next time I'm coming back as a cat Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ha Yom yom Huledet, ha yom yom huledet, le'Reggie!!! Wishing you an awesome evening, and celebrating with you in spirit. Happy Birthday!! Best wishes Fern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Todah Rabah Fern Here is a piece of cake..... Peace, Reggie > > Ha Yom yom Huledet, ha yom yom huledet, le'Reggie!!! > Wishing you an awesome evening, and celebrating with you in spirit. Happy Birthday!! > > Best wishes > Fern > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 well everyone here speaks Hebrew? - how delightful sorry, my piece of the cake didn't arrive - can you at least describe it for me so, you feeling older and wiser now? Klara From: purpleveg <purpleveg@...>Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 4:58 AM Todah Rabah FernHere is a piece of cake.....Peace,Reggie>> Ha Yom yom Huledet, ha yom yom huledet, le'Reggie!!!> Wishing you an awesome evening, and celebrating with you in spirit. Happy Birthday!!> > Best wishes> Fern> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Ken, Ah nee midaberet Evreet. hahahaha Let's see, it was a " vanilla " cake with a fluffy carob middle and a carob/roma frosting on top. I washed it down with some coconut milk ice cream. Yum! I'm tired so that's the best you'll get. The food: polenta squares with a sliver of tomato and sprinkle of basil on top. Some spicy aduki/mung bean stew and cabbage rolled in polenta patties which were my favorite. The stew was really yummy too. I started this email hours ago, what a space cadet I am! Off to sleep. xo the ever wise AND old Reggie > > > > Ha Yom yom Huledet, ha yom yom huledet, le'Reggie!!! > > Wishing you an awesome evening, and celebrating with you in spirit. Happy Birthday!! > > > > Best wishes > > Fern > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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