Chris

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Judy, they won't hospitalize him. He's no danger to himself or

others; just lots of bad thoughts!

Probably since things are so bad, medication will be prescribed. If

he can't swallow pills yet, then that narrows the first ones to try

down to those that also come available in liquid form. And also

maybe a referral to a therapist (if one is known, they can be hard

to find some places), though this might wait until meds are

working.

And remember, kids have very good and vivid imaginations. They can

think up/imagine lots of yucky and even gruesome stuff! OCD can

just take it and run with it.

(((hugs))) less than 24 hours until appt!

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> Thank you so much for responding! I think I just need some

reassurance from someone who has been there. Seeing he is only 4, he

is having such a hard time stopping this. when I ask him to try to

boss it back, he says he can't. It's as though it's something new

every minute. I keep wondering if he's losing his mind. He keeps

running over to me and saying these horrible thoughts in his mind,

and it's constant.

> His appt is tomorrow am at 10;30. They have to do something. I'm

just so afraid they will hospitalize him because he's so bad.

> thanks so much!

> hugs

> Judy

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My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know what he was

supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

Thanks!

<@...> wrote:

Laurie,

With the compulsive questioning and other, have in mind how you want

things handled. BUT ALSO in all this, I have found it helpful when

discussing some symptom/problem, to ask the others (teachers) present

*first* if they have a suggestion on how to handle it. Not

necessarily on everything, but starting off the meeting that way,

soliciting their input and suggestions, try to make it feel more of

a " team " etc. (Not that I haven't called a meeting in the past just

to complain, LOL.)

And praising and thanking them for the help can work wonders too!

was a question-asker. I talked to him about asking too many

questions. And I asked a couple teachers if the questions were good

questions (they were). But I did tell to watch out about

taking up too much time asking questions, he could ask when it was

time to do classwork or after class. I also told new teachers at

meetings that he was one who liked to ask questions! I didn't have

any particular way for them to handle that, they were on their own!

If it seems it might help, mention your OCD a bit but I don't recall

that I mentioned my OCD " quirks. " Hmmm...if I did I probably said

something like came by it honest, got it from me, I have my

OC behaviors but nothing like him, he just got it full force....

Oh I remember when I was near furious at one math teacher back in

middle school. She had marked answers wrong on a paper because he

didn't follow directions or something...but answers were correct. I

think maybe he was supposed to put them on another sheet maybe.

Anyway, she wrote a note on the paper about either he had asked her

twice about it or she had given him directions twice and he still got

it wrong.... Just hit me wrong when I read the note and saw the

correct answers marked with that " X " . If you give too many

verbal instructions, he may not get them all. Needs it broken down

more. And I really didn't care if she had told him twice, if he

needed it explained 5 times, then that is what he needed and if he

thought he understood but in reality didn't, well, I just thought her

comment was wrong. (though I already didn't like her much from

previous stuff, so it didn't take much for me to get mad at her

again!)

Well, is getting ready to do his homework he says, needs the

computer! Hooray! So I'm off!

>

> Thanks for your reply! My " feel " about the school is positive so

far. Her school counselor has been great. I have had private

testing and a letter from her p-doc suggesting what her accomidations

should be, and I am making my own list too.

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Hi ,

I think that asking questions could be due to OCD for some people.

Their need for no doubt or whatever feeling might be pushing their

questions.

With , I put it down to his Aspergers more. Or maybe it's

just *him* LOL. He's always been one to question. Hard to

explain. He'll correct teachers too. He's very smart, teachers

love him for that usually. Since I'm not in the classroom, I can

only guess. That's why I asked a couple teachers if he was asking

good questions. He was, but it was to the point that the rest of

the class gets impatient, that type thing.

Back in middle school he went thru what I call a " stubborn streak "

of asking a teacher each day if they could go outside. She had

taken them out on some nice day for class. After that he apparently

asked EACH day. said it was getting on the teacher's nerves.

At home I told to stop asking. Heard he still did. Got on

him again. I think he eventually stopped but not because " mom " said

to.

Being sure of what to do, instructions, etc. - or being unsure - I

put that down to his Aspie part. And sometimes the literalness of

Aspergers got in the way. If he didn't have Aspergers, I would

probably wonder about some processing problem or other LD. Overall

it hasn't been any real problem but just a weak area here/there over

time.

>

>

> My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know

what he was supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think that asking questions could be due to OCD for some people.

Their need for no doubt or whatever feeling might be pushing their

questions.

With , I put it down to his Aspergers more. Or maybe it's

just *him* LOL. He's always been one to question. Hard to

explain. He'll correct teachers too. He's very smart, teachers

love him for that usually. Since I'm not in the classroom, I can

only guess. That's why I asked a couple teachers if he was asking

good questions. He was, but it was to the point that the rest of

the class gets impatient, that type thing.

Back in middle school he went thru what I call a " stubborn streak "

of asking a teacher each day if they could go outside. She had

taken them out on some nice day for class. After that he apparently

asked EACH day. said it was getting on the teacher's nerves.

At home I told to stop asking. Heard he still did. Got on

him again. I think he eventually stopped but not because " mom " said

to.

Being sure of what to do, instructions, etc. - or being unsure - I

put that down to his Aspie part. And sometimes the literalness of

Aspergers got in the way. If he didn't have Aspergers, I would

probably wonder about some processing problem or other LD. Overall

it hasn't been any real problem but just a weak area here/there over

time.

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> My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know

what he was supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Chris. I always thought had auditory processing and when he was

in first grade and looking up him symptoms, aspergers always popped up. I think

his was more processing, but probably the ocd didn't help anything.

<@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I think that asking questions could be due to OCD for some people.

Their need for no doubt or whatever feeling might be pushing their

questions.

With , I put it down to his Aspergers more. Or maybe it's

just *him* LOL. He's always been one to question. Hard to

explain. He'll correct teachers too. He's very smart, teachers

love him for that usually. Since I'm not in the classroom, I can

only guess. That's why I asked a couple teachers if he was asking

good questions. He was, but it was to the point that the rest of

the class gets impatient, that type thing.

Back in middle school he went thru what I call a " stubborn streak "

of asking a teacher each day if they could go outside. She had

taken them out on some nice day for class. After that he apparently

asked EACH day. said it was getting on the teacher's nerves.

At home I told to stop asking. Heard he still did. Got on

him again. I think he eventually stopped but not because " mom " said

to.

Being sure of what to do, instructions, etc. - or being unsure - I

put that down to his Aspie part. And sometimes the literalness of

Aspergers got in the way. If he didn't have Aspergers, I would

probably wonder about some processing problem or other LD. Overall

it hasn't been any real problem but just a weak area here/there over

time.

>

>

> My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know

what he was supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

>

> Thanks!

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Chris. I always thought had auditory processing and when he was

in first grade and looking up him symptoms, aspergers always popped up. I think

his was more processing, but probably the ocd didn't help anything.

<@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I think that asking questions could be due to OCD for some people.

Their need for no doubt or whatever feeling might be pushing their

questions.

With , I put it down to his Aspergers more. Or maybe it's

just *him* LOL. He's always been one to question. Hard to

explain. He'll correct teachers too. He's very smart, teachers

love him for that usually. Since I'm not in the classroom, I can

only guess. That's why I asked a couple teachers if he was asking

good questions. He was, but it was to the point that the rest of

the class gets impatient, that type thing.

Back in middle school he went thru what I call a " stubborn streak "

of asking a teacher each day if they could go outside. She had

taken them out on some nice day for class. After that he apparently

asked EACH day. said it was getting on the teacher's nerves.

At home I told to stop asking. Heard he still did. Got on

him again. I think he eventually stopped but not because " mom " said

to.

Being sure of what to do, instructions, etc. - or being unsure - I

put that down to his Aspie part. And sometimes the literalness of

Aspergers got in the way. If he didn't have Aspergers, I would

probably wonder about some processing problem or other LD. Overall

it hasn't been any real problem but just a weak area here/there over

time.

>

>

> My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know

what he was supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

>

> Thanks!

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I've noticed when our son's OCD is flaring, he constantly asks

questions. We CANNOT get through a movie without pausing it

constantly. He needs constant explanations from situations to what

words mean.

BJ

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> > My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know

> what he was supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

> >

> > Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Unbelievable! My dd does the same thing with movies. It drives me crazy! Also,

she always asks my permission to do anything. I get annoyed and say " just do it,

don't ask me! " It never occurred to me that this could be OCD.

Re: Chris

I've noticed when our son's OCD is flaring, he constantly asks

questions. We CANNOT get through a movie without pausing it

constantly. He needs constant explanations from situations to what

words mean.

BJ

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> > My son also was a huge question asker and then often didn't know

> what he was supposed to do. Do you attribute that to OCD?

> >

> > Thanks!

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My son with NLD " talks himself through " movies, TV shows, everything -- drives

us crazy! My dd with both NLD and OCD very rarely makes a decision on her own

without asking permission, and asks MANY questions about routine things. The

neuropsych who saw her recently (as well as the OCD therapist at Penn) both

think this is the result of her combination of the two dxs.

P.

imogeneyassi@... wrote:

Unbelievable! My dd does the same thing with movies. It drives me

crazy! Also, she always asks my permission to do anything. I get annoyed and say

" just do it, don't ask me! " It never occurred to me that this could be OCD.

Re: Chris

I've noticed when our son's OCD is flaring, he constantly asks

questions. We CANNOT get through a movie without pausing it

constantly. He needs constant explanations from situations to what

words mean.

BJ

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> How long has been on the 5-HTP?

, 's been up to 300mg less than 2 weeks. He would go up

50mg about every 2 weeks.

I haven't read the entire book, " Imp of the Mind, " but did check it

out of the library for . He read, he said, the parts that

related to him (scrupe).

I think with a lot of it is that he won't think of it

as " OCD " but as a problem *he* has. Like maybe the OCD is making his

thoughts repetitive/obsessive but that the *thoughts* are his and not

OCD (if that makes sense). So I counter with something like, let's

tackle the OCD and then you can work on what's left, if that is how

you really feel (re faith, God...) and you don't like it, you can

work on being a better person, work on your faith, etc., AFTER we get

OCD's making you obsess on it 24/7 out of the way. Sigh, that idea

doesn't work for him either, still means he's a bad person or

something.

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How is doing with college? Is doing any better?

in TN

<@...> wrote:

Lori, sorry this is going so badly! In the meantime, you could still

see him but be making calls to find someone else who hopefully

actually understands what OCD is! I'm with you, no ODD, stick with

your mom's instincts.

That just really sucks that they lost that paper! Maybe the teacher

made a copy before sending! I know when I worked at our local mental

health, if we hadn't received something I would often go up front to

medical records and go through their " to be filed " stack and find

things that should have come to our department, you might ask their

medical records dept to check.

I understand about the homework. really wanted to get his

work done too. It's hard to describe, how they want to but seem to

get nowhere or not be able to start or make any progress.

>

> Second appointment was Friday. He talked to my dd alone for about

15 minutes

> then we talked together. There were a couple times I just wanted

to cry, the

> Dr just does not seem to " get " her problems. He is struggling to

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Hi ,

Well I think he's going to make A's and B's. But he is still

struggling to do the work. It's like he waits until the last minute

to do it. He was up until 3:30 the other night. Then because he was

going on an overnight camping trip last night (Saturday), he was up

til 1:30 am Sat. morning because he knew he couldn't work on it Sat.

and then he just will not do any work on Sundays. Although he still

has to print out his work for tomorrow/Monday. (I don't know why he

didn't print it out the other night; knowing him, he'll wait until

morning to print it out).

I fussed a bit that night he was up so late. His thoughts were so bad

he couldn't work. So I fussed about waiting until the last minute to

begin things he has days to do since it seems to happen so often.

I had found what looked to be a good website on scrupulosity for him

to read. He still hasn't read through it (I haven't read all). I

told him I thought I might print some of it out for him to take to his

therapy and they could go over it there and discuss it (whether

agrees with what it says, things he might try...); might be

the only way to get him to read/hear it. He doesn't like that idea

but I might do it and then just give it to his therapist to read and

see if he thinks it might be helpful.

>

> How is doing with college? Is doing any better?

> in TN

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