Safety

July 16, 2005

> Stupidly

> (there's that word again), I held the little bottle with the first

> three

> fingers of my left hand while I attempted to spray the perfume into

> it.

> Why didn't I use a funnel? Why didn't I wash my hands immediately

> after I

> doused those three fingers?

>

Anya,

Are you saying the problem was you had an overdose of the perfume

that would have been fine if you'd just dabbed it on in customary

amounts?

Thanks,

e

July 16, 2005

At 11:35 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:

> Anya,

>

> Are you saying the problem was you had an overdose of the perfume

>that would have been fine if you'd just dabbed it on in customary

>amounts?

Back to blending and safety issues -- thanks, e!

Yes, I drenched my fingers -- it was dripping off. Busy bee I am, I went

about my business without washing off the excess. I have applied little

sprays of this same perfume to my neck with no problem. Now that my fingers

are sensitized, even washing the dishes the other night (someone else

usually does it), I had a flare up, minor, but annoying. Intense itching,

soreness, but, thankfully, it didn't progress. It's been going on three

days now, and I only have to scratch about two times a day. The dishsoap

had grapefruit oil in it, so it goes to show my fingers are sensitized to

anything that might set them off.

Anya

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August 14, 2005

Hi ,

No one died from kt. The FDA is not reliable in this case giving 'warnings'

for which no evidence is available to support. Two women died of other

causes, and the FDA saw fit to confuse people into thinking that KT is

harmful or " could " be... Their own documents show that the causes of death

were other things, but coincidentally the women drank KT before their

deaths. They probably also drank water, ate food, breathed air, you get the

picture...

There are many people including myself who have been drinking KT from way

before the FDA made its unfounded assertions, and we didn't slow down our KT

drinking when we noticed the " evidence " the FDA had was non-existent.

Please make your own decision, but I'm letting you know that a lot of people

did not take the FDA claim at face value. They read the FDA documents

themselves and came to a conclusion that we are very safe drinking properly

made KT.

Hope my opinion is worth 2 cents

Vince

Safety

In about 1995 ,I think it was, I started making and drinking Kombucha

tea. I used it for several months and then the FDA came out with that

report saying it wasn't safe because two women had died. I quit

immediately, but recently I have been thinking I would like to make

and drink it again. I have ordered a culture, can someone reassure me

on this. Are there any new findings? I have fibromyalgia and have

heard it helps. Thank you very much for any help on this.

August 14, 2005

Vince- Thanks very much for your input. I just read the FDA reports and I

probably should have kept drinking it. Everyone I knew that drank it was quiting

and were all scared, so I quit too. I think I'll brew up a batch. Thanks again,

Vince Richter <cvincer@...> wrote:Hi ,

No one died from kt. The FDA is not reliable in this case giving 'warnings'

for which no evidence is available to support. Two women died of other

causes, and the FDA saw fit to confuse people into thinking that KT is

harmful or " could " be... Their own documents show that the causes of death

were other things, but coincidentally the women drank KT before their

deaths. They probably also drank water, ate food, breathed air, you get the

picture...

There are many people including myself who have been drinking KT from way

before the FDA made its unfounded assertions, and we didn't slow down our KT

drinking when we noticed the " evidence " the FDA had was non-existent.

Please make your own decision, but I'm letting you know that a lot of people

did not take the FDA claim at face value. They read the FDA documents

themselves and came to a conclusion that we are very safe drinking properly

made KT.

Hope my opinion is worth 2 cents

Vince

Safety

In about 1995 ,I think it was, I started making and drinking Kombucha

tea. I used it for several months and then the FDA came out with that

report saying it wasn't safe because two women had died. I quit

immediately, but recently I have been thinking I would like to make

and drink it again. I have ordered a culture, can someone reassure me

on this. Are there any new findings? I have fibromyalgia and have

heard it helps. Thank you very much for any help on this.

August 15, 2005

Hi ,

The FDA will do everything in it's power to scare people into not

taking natural products. KT and any other natural product, including

Ephedra, has never killed anyone. The FDA banned Ephedra claiming it

killed so many people, but in reality it was Ephedrine which is a

synthetic version of Ephedra, made by the pharmaceutical companies!

When I read anything that the FDA says is dangerous, I automatically

continue doing it. If they say it's bad for you, then it's not.

The drugs the FDA have approved have killed more people than anything,

and they have scientific testing done on these drugs! I'm opposed to

any drug whether it's prescription or over the counter, they will all

kill you. Natural products are on this earth to heal us, not drugs.

It's in the Bible.

By the way, I have also read that KT is good for fibromyalgia.

Judy

> In about 1995 ,I think it was, I started making and drinking

Kombucha

> tea. I used it for several months and then the FDA came out with

that

> report saying it wasn't safe because two women had died. I quit

> immediately, but recently I have been thinking I would like to make

> and drink it again. I have ordered a culture, can someone reassure

me

> on this. Are there any new findings? I have fibromyalgia and have

> heard it helps. Thank you very much for any help on this.

August 15, 2005

a little humor ...

http://www.newstarget.com/010825.html

Doctors from the University of Allopath have announced that

Love is a

disease. It is characterized by abnormal heart rhythms,

sweating, impaired

brain function <http://www.newstarget.com/000057.html> ,

incoherent speech

patterns and loss of sleep, among other signs. Thanks to

this pioneering

work from researchers sponsored by the leading drug firm

Pferck, researchers

have learned that love is a common biochemical disorder

affecting both men

and women of all ages.

Fortunately, it is treatable with prescription drugs. A new

drug, Miserexa,

combines beta blockers and antidepressants to alleviate the

symptoms of

Love. This drug slows the heart and helps patients feel

detached from

reality, counteracting the unhealthy neediness of Love.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the new drug

this week. In a

press conference, chief FDA drug approval scientist Dr. B.

Fuddle said, " We

are declaring war on Love, and doing everything in our power

to eradicate

Love from the world. "

The market for Miserexa is expected to reach six billion

dollars annually.

" Love has reached epidemic

<http://www.newstarget.com/004135.html>

proportions " , explained a public relations representative of

Pferk. " If we

do not act immediately to thwart the spread of this disease,

Love will run

rampant, and we will be facing an epidemic of Love in the

world. "

Health researchers first became aware of the disease after

being alerted to

symptoms of Love by the psychiatry

<http://www.newstarget.com/009424.html>

community, which has been instrumental in the detection and

aggressive

treatment of this dangerous condition with brain-altering

drugs. " We were

seeing it in an alarming number of patients " , explained one

psychiatrist,

" and it was causing untold suffering in their lives.

Fortunately, the

condition can now be chemically corrected. "

Further study revealed that Love is highly contagious. It

can apparently

spread from one person to another, although the mechanism of

transmission is

currently unknown. Love also spreads easily from mother to

child,

especially in newborns. Interestingly, Love has no effect

on landlords and

corporate CEOs, who seem to possess some unknown immunity to

the disease.

Given the expanding threat of this disease, doctors stress

it is important

that all adults get screened for Love as soon as possible.

Hospitals and

clinics are now setting up Love screening programs in the

hopes of catching

the disease early and treating it aggressively with targeted

pharmaceuticals

<http://www.newstarget.com/001806.html> . " Nearly half the

population may

now be suffering from Love " , said Dr. Fuddle, " and we

estimate more than 90%

of the carriers are currently going without treatment. It is

important that

we provide screenings and treatment on a population-wide

basis. "

If Love is not detected and treated in its early stages, it

can advance to

the point where the only solution is surgery. In such

severe cases of Love,

skilled surgeons perform a cardiectomy (a surgical removal

of the heart).

The procedure is risky, and many patients have died on the

operating table,

but many more have been successfully saved from the ravages

of Love by the

skillful blade of a compassionate surgeon.

The American Misery Association (AMA), whose mission is to

find the cure for

Love, is working hard to help educate the general public to

watch for early

signs of Love. People are urged to conduct a Love

self-examination in the

privacy of their own homes, and to watch out for the classic

symptoms of

Love: racing pulse <http://www.newstarget.com/004692.html> ,

sweaty palms,

inability to speak in coherent sentences, or confusion

around certain

attractive individuals. People are also taught how to avoid

giving Love to

others - an important step in halting the spread of this

disease.

If you suspect that you or someone you know might be

suffering from Love,

don't wait. Treatment is available. Don't let Loved ones

suffer any

longer.

This press release is brought to you by Pferck, where

today's rip-off drug

prices fund tomorrow's profit miracles.

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Re: Safety

Hi ,

The FDA will do everything in it's power to scare people

into not

taking natural products. KT and any other natural product,

including

Ephedra, has never killed anyone. The FDA banned Ephedra

claiming it

killed so many people, but in reality it was Ephedrine which

is a

synthetic version of Ephedra, made by the pharmaceutical

companies!

When I read anything that the FDA says is dangerous, I

automatically

continue doing it. If they say it's bad for you, then it's

not.

The drugs the FDA have approved have killed more people than

anything,

and they have scientific testing done on these drugs! I'm

opposed to

any drug whether it's prescription or over the counter, they

will all

kill you. Natural products are on this earth to heal us, not

drugs.

It's in the Bible.

By the way, I have also read that KT is good for

fibromyalgia.

Judy

August 15, 2005

a little humor ...

http://www.newstarget.com/010825.html

That's a good one Ed.

Thanks for the laugh.

Kathann

December 12, 2009

It sounds like being hit on was a big threat to you. Something caused you to

perceive you did something wrong in receiving this type of response from men.

As I've gotten older, I've found it is pleasant to receive this from men. It

doesn't mean anything, just " I like you. " Jean

From: jlfalkowski <jlfalkowski@...>

Subject: Safety

weightloss

Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:58 PM

Â

Hi all,

I've been listening to 's podcasts for a couple of months. I recently

started over because I was listening without doing any of the work. This time

through, I want to really commit.

I have this issue and as I've typed it out I realize it sounds crazy and (maybe)

egotistical. It really isn't. It's a serious issue for me and, I'm pretty

sure, the reason I get scared when I lose weight so please bear with me. I

literally have no one else I can share this with.

I've been thinking about what benefits I get from being overweight. I think

safety from sexual advances is a huge one for me.

It's a social game I never really got. I was pretty cute, I guess, in my late

teens through my mid twenties. But I've always been shy and kind of a sci fi

geek and not particularly sexual. I mean, a bit, probably normal or even under;

it's not like I was looking for it all the time.

Anyhoo, I kept thinking I had guy friends but then they would hit on me. Even

after I started dating and then after I married my husband (Who I knew right

from the beginning wanted to be more than just a friend:)), I still got hit on

quite a bit. Maybe I was stupid to think we could be friends.

I don't think I was sending out signals. It really did get so that I was

uncomfortable around all men except my husband. So, once I really started

gaining weight, it stopped. I lost quite a bit when I had a two year old and

was nursing a baby. At that time I got wolf whistles on the street and a

neighbor's husband hit on me.

Even typing all this out has me in tears. Maybe it's an unreasonable fear. My

husband laughed when I try to tell him about it, thinking that talking would get

it off my chest. I'm now in my early 40's and I'm hoping that in itself will

keep me safer.

I'm not even sure what I 'm hoping typing all this out. I guess, as part of

facing my issues, I want to get them out of my head. It does sound nuts out

loud. Any ideas from anyone?

Thanks,

JL

December 12, 2009

JL,

You have every reason to feel uncomfortable and threatened by these advances.

There are many reasons that underneath you may feel this way but if you feel it,

it is entirely valid.

First of all - you may worry about any one of these scenarios:

- Eventually you may get hit on by someone you find attractive and it has the

possibility of making you think about things outside of your marriage

- Because it seems like you keep getting hit on by married men, it is reminding

you that the world (and marriage) isn't what you had hoped it was (not

necessarily for you but the world in general)

- Because if you aren't as sexual a person and you don't feel as though you

aren't throwing anything out there, you may feel violated when you receive the

unwanted attention.

I could go on but I think you get the picture. You have every reason to feel

this way and I can totally understand why it might make you want to cover up

with pounds.

I wish I could tell you how it might get easier but honestly it sounds like

therapy might be the answer.

-Mia

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've been listening to 's podcasts for a couple of months. I recently

started over because I was listening without doing any of the work. This time

through, I want to really commit.

>

> I have this issue and as I've typed it out I realize it sounds crazy and

(maybe) egotistical. It really isn't. It's a serious issue for me and, I'm

pretty sure, the reason I get scared when I lose weight so please bear with me.

I literally have no one else I can share this with.

>

> I've been thinking about what benefits I get from being overweight. I think

safety from sexual advances is a huge one for me.

>

> It's a social game I never really got. I was pretty cute, I guess, in my late

teens through my mid twenties. But I've always been shy and kind of a sci fi

geek and not particularly sexual. I mean, a bit, probably normal or even under;

it's not like I was looking for it all the time.

>

> Anyhoo, I kept thinking I had guy friends but then they would hit on me. Even

after I started dating and then after I married my husband (Who I knew right

from the beginning wanted to be more than just a friend:)), I still got hit on

quite a bit. Maybe I was stupid to think we could be friends.

>

> I don't think I was sending out signals. It really did get so that I was

uncomfortable around all men except my husband. So, once I really started

gaining weight, it stopped. I lost quite a bit when I had a two year old and

was nursing a baby. At that time I got wolf whistles on the street and a

neighbor's husband hit on me.

>

> Even typing all this out has me in tears. Maybe it's an unreasonable fear.

My husband laughed when I try to tell him about it, thinking that talking would

get it off my chest. I'm now in my early 40's and I'm hoping that in itself

will keep me safer.

>

> I'm not even sure what I 'm hoping typing all this out. I guess, as part of

facing my issues, I want to get them out of my head. It does sound nuts out

loud. Any ideas from anyone?

>

> Thanks,

> JL

>

December 12, 2009

I never got hit on to that extent but I can totally understand why it makes you

uncomfortable and I'm sure I'd feel the same if it were happening to me. Maybe

the best thing is to come up with a strategy to thwart the advances as soon as

they come at you. I don't know what it should be, but this popped into my head

first: " Shame on you, I'm happily married and now a little disgusted with

you! " Those are not the right words but I'm sure saying something along these

regards will make them back off and slink away. I'm sure there are kinder words

" Thanks but no thanks " but it seems you really want them to back off totally.

From: mcmimers <drummrgrl@...>

Subject: Re: Safety

weightloss

Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 9:51 AM

JL,

You have every reason to feel uncomfortable and threatened by these advances.

There are many reasons that underneath you may feel this way but if you feel it,

it is entirely valid.

First of all - you may worry about any one of these scenarios:

- Eventually you may get hit on by someone you find attractive and it has the

possibility of making you think about things outside of your marriage

- Because it seems like you keep getting hit on by married men, it is reminding

you that the world (and marriage) isn't what you had hoped it was (not

necessarily for you but the world in general)

- Because if you aren't as sexual a person and you don't feel as though you

aren't throwing anything out there, you may feel violated when you receive the

unwanted attention.

I could go on but I think you get the picture. You have every reason to feel

this way and I can totally understand why it might make you want to cover up

with pounds.

I wish I could tell you how it might get easier but honestly it sounds like

therapy might be the answer.

-Mia

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've been listening to 's podcasts for a couple of months. I recently

started over because I was listening without doing any of the work. This time

through, I want to really commit.

>

> I have this issue and as I've typed it out I realize it sounds crazy and

(maybe) egotistical. It really isn't. It's a serious issue for me and, I'm

pretty sure, the reason I get scared when I lose weight so please bear with me.

I literally have no one else I can share this with.

>

> I've been thinking about what benefits I get from being overweight. I think

safety from sexual advances is a huge one for me.

>

> It's a social game I never really got. I was pretty cute, I guess, in my late

teens through my mid twenties. But I've always been shy and kind of a sci fi

geek and not particularly sexual. I mean, a bit, probably normal or even under;

it's not like I was looking for it all the time.

>

> Anyhoo, I kept thinking I had guy friends but then they would hit on me. Even

after I started dating and then after I married my husband (Who I knew right

from the beginning wanted to be more than just a friend:)), I still got hit on

quite a bit. Maybe I was stupid to think we could be friends.

>

> I don't think I was sending out signals. It really did get so that I was

uncomfortable around all men except my husband. So, once I really started

gaining weight, it stopped. I lost quite a bit when I had a two year old and

was nursing a baby. At that time I got wolf whistles on the street and a

neighbor's husband hit on me.

>

> Even typing all this out has me in tears. Maybe it's an unreasonable fear.

My husband laughed when I try to tell him about it, thinking that talking would

get it off my chest. I'm now in my early 40's and I'm hoping that in itself

will keep me safer.

>

> I'm not even sure what I 'm hoping typing all this out. I guess, as part of

facing my issues, I want to get them out of my head. It does sound nuts out

loud. Any ideas from anyone?

>

> Thanks,

> JL

>

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December 13, 2009

Hi JL,

I know exactly what you are saying.Â I too have come to the conclusion that

this is the reason, I'm keeping myself 20-25 pounds overweight.Â I'm not the

most beautiful person in the world, but for some reason, I have men attracted to

meÂ too!Â I'm super friendly and sometimes I think I could be a little bit more

reserved, but I am who I am and I don't want to change that, so instead I

remainÂ overweight.Â I've also had a lot of male friends/co-workers throughout

the years and just know this:Men can never be just friends!Â They ALWAYS want

something more!!!! Well,my theory of being overweight had been working for 4

years until just recently a co-worker(who again, I thought was a good

friend)Â had told me he has been in love/lust with me for a while(3-4 years)Â

OMG!!!!!!! I thought I was protecting myself!!!!!!Â So, either way, fat or

skinny, people will find something they like about you!!!!! I just feel so

uncomfortable now in the work place

again!!!Â I feel I can never escape it.Â I'm going to have to transfer out

possibly.Â I've already told him thatÂ I appreciate his telling me(why didn't

he just keep it to himself???)Â but I'M NOT INTERESTED!!!!! I just wish I didn't

have to deal with this!!!!!

Â So my conclusion is.......Â Remain the beautiful, strong person you are and

just roll with the punches.Â I'm trying to have a 4th child and have a great

towards motivation going right now. I want the most healthiest pregnancy

possible, since I'm now 40!

Good luck and it you want to chat more, I'd love to keep in touch.

Teri

________________________________

From: jlfalkowski <jlfalkowski@...>

weightloss

Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 3:58:42 PM

Subject: Safety

Â

Hi all,

I've been listening to 's podcasts for a couple of months. I recently

started over because I was listening without doing any of the work. This time

through, I want to really commit.

I have this issue and as I've typed it out I realize it sounds crazy and (maybe)

egotistical. It really isn't. It's a serious issue for me and, I'm pretty sure,

the reason I get scared when I lose weight so please bear with me. I literally

have no one else I can share this with.

I've been thinking about what benefits I get from being overweight. I think

safety from sexual advances is a huge one for me.

It's a social game I never really got. I was pretty cute, I guess, in my late

teens through my mid twenties. But I've always been shy and kind of a sci fi

geek and not particularly sexual. I mean, a bit, probably normal or even under;

it's not like I was looking for it all the time.

Anyhoo, I kept thinking I had guy friends but then they would hit on me. Even

after I started dating and then after I married my husband (Who I knew right

from the beginning wanted to be more than just a friend:)), I still got hit on

quite a bit. Maybe I was stupid to think we could be friends.

I don't think I was sending out signals. It really did get so that I was

uncomfortable around all men except my husband. So, once I really started

gaining weight, it stopped. I lost quite a bit when I had a two year old and was

nursing a baby. At that time I got wolf whistles on the street and a neighbor's

husband hit on me.

Even typing all this out has me in tears. Maybe it's an unreasonable fear. My

husband laughed when I try to tell him about it, thinking that talking would get

it off my chest. I'm now in my early 40's and I'm hoping that in itself will

keep me safer.

I'm not even sure what I 'm hoping typing all this out. I guess, as part of

facing my issues, I want to get them out of my head. It does sound nuts out

loud. Any ideas from anyone?

Thanks,

JL

December 13, 2009

Hi JL,

I don't have any great words of wisdom but a healthy dose of encouragement. I

commend you for being brave enough to look inside yourself and discover what is

holding you back. I'm sure since you were willing to go in that far you will be

able to go farther to find the answers. Your post prompted me to explore the

sexual side of my weight and I hadn't thought about how my weight is being used

to keep everyone, even my husband at a distance. I uncovered that I have had a

fear of being sexually assalted from the time I hit puberty. I was never

sexually abused or anything or even sexually active until my 20's but I think I

saw enough movies and shows in my teens to make myself become scared enough that

it could happen to me. Actually, now this sounds dumb to me, but I can remember

watching a movie with my day and the woman was car jacked. As I'm watching this

my dad says to me that in the situation you should always do what you are told

and don't be a hero you could lose your life. Well what happened to her next to

me was way worse than losing you life and I remember thinking NOT ME! No way

I'm ever giving anyone even the chance to do that to me. And now I view myself

as strong because I'm big. But then when I look in the mirror I don't like the

mess I am that is preventing me from being happy and a good wife and mother. I

want my daughter to grow up and be strong with a heathly amount of self

protection and I can't be a good example to her looking/ feeling/ acting like

this. So thank you again for your trigger. It is definitely helping me get one

step closer to finding out what I need to work on to let go.

-Ang

December 13, 2009

I work in a virtually all-male profession, and also travel a lot for work

and experience men from other cultures without the workplace rules that we

have here - in some countries they feel much freer to express themselves!

There have been studies that show that men interpret friendliness much

differently than women do - they are much more likely to think it is a

come-on, but avoiding friendliness altogether is not going to work either.

I've had to figure this out because it was important to my career, as well

as me personally, to be " one of the guys " in a sense, and not be aloof,

while making it clear that I have no interest in extramarital affairs. I

have made incredibly rich friendships with men because of it.

You may not be sending out signals, but the guys may be receiving them

anyway. You may feel sexier at a lower weight or wear different clothes or

other things that are perfectly appropriate, but a clueless guy may think it

is HE that has certainly become more attractive!!!

I have 2 strategies, but the best is simply acknowledge an advance and treat

it like a harmless flirtation and move on. I lost weight with an office

Weight Watchers group, and have had a lot of people saying things to me. ( I

am VERY sensitive about weight and don't like even comments that other

people may find pleasant, from men or women. I don't want to discuss how I

lost weight, how much, anything.) However, just mentally rehearse and come

up with a few lines that work for you. Something like " how sweet, you just

made my day " , and move on to another subject immediately. This keeps things

from being embarrassing later - you don't hurt anyone's feelings, and they

figure out instantly that you don't see them as a potential fling.

For others that you don't know and don't have to worry about offending, just

try to be an observer and enjoy the silliness of some of these pick up

lines. I had one very persistent guy that, 2 years later, I still find

hilarious. If you just can't shake someone, laughing at them does the trick.

Not in a mean way, but in the " I can't believe you just said that " way.

Don't let this be a stumbling block! I promise you that a little mental

rehearsal will give you a lot of confidence.

December 14, 2009

Very good! I wish I had your skills when I was younger. It would have saved me a

lot of pain.

For a lot of men finding sex is like hunting. " Missed that one! Oh look, another

one is coming. " They are suppose to stop hunting when they get married. Some do,

some don't.

They enjoy the hunt. It isn't about you as an individual so you can't take

either credit or blame. They take pride in honing their skills. And the more

skilled they get the more luck they have.

There are lot's of women who have the goal of " marrying well. " That's just

another twist on the above.

Jean

From: Jami Nettles <jami.nettles@...>

Subject: Re: Safety

weightloss

Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 11:54 AM