Re: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horror

May 20, 2012

Good luck to you Sharon!From: "birdluvr4evr" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:49:52 PMSubject: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horrorTerry: Thanks for your concern. I was going to order the microscope but didn't get around to it and thankfully have no need for it now. I have no crawley feelings of any kind so my horror is over with. I never had marks or bites. Please read my post #3 to see what I believe caused my problem. That this is common with drug users blew me away. The only thing that could have caused it for me was all those Chinese meds I combined and took with my vitamin regimen. Trust me! You'll never see the day when I use anything like that again. I just hope I can get the smell of those horrid Oils and cleaning things out of my house. I used to love cleaning with Lysol but now it nauseates me. It's wonderful to sleep in my bed again, lay on the sofa and watch tv, do the laundry as I always did and not fear of spreading mites everywhere. I'm over keeping the vacuum bag in the freezer. Thank God, it's OVER!!!The pastor/counsellor was surprised I accepted the diagnosis because most people reject it. When I read it I saw that it described my experience exactly and I am very grateful that God gave him the wisdom to point me in the right direction. I have a new friend here in town who has experienced the same symptoms for 3 years. It appears hers are caused by an energy drink she had begun using and has used since right before that time. I got her the black light and she, too saw nothing and so she is on the road to recovery. Sharon> >> > So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a Ph.D., M.S.> > Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back. > > "Sharon,> > After reading your email, I believe that I know what the problem is. I understand that this is a serious problem for you, and it has caused great stress. Please do not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you come and see me tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to call off sick from work tomorrow to make the appointment with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you. Email me back and let me know which time works best for you Sharon. "> > > > I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read the following links - they are exactly his diagnosis. In fact, he had printed these two sites out and gave them to me.> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis> > > > http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication> > > > They describe my situation exactly! Except that I have never been a drug user nor have I ever even tried drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this to me?> > > > I'll post #3 tomorrow.> > Sharon> >>------------------------------------

May 21, 2012

Sharon

It doesnt make any sense that the crawling just stopped just like,that

Once u heard the pastors viewpoint

Im totaly confused as to whats going on for you

I just hope,that u are alright

Take care x

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On Sun, May 20, 2012 20:28 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>Good luck to you Sharon!

>

> Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horror

>

>Terry: Thanks for your concern. I was going to order the microscope but didn't

get around to it and thankfully have no need for it now. I have no crawley

feelings of any kind so my horror is over with. I never had marks or bites.

Please read my post #3 to see what I believe caused my problem. That this is

common with drug users blew me away. The only thing that could have caused it

for me was all those Chinese meds I combined and took with my vitamin regimen.

Trust me! You'll never see the day when I use anything like that again.

>

>I just hope I can get the smell of those horrid Oils and cleaning things out of

my house. I used to love cleaning with Lysol but now it nauseates me. It's

wonderful to sleep in my bed again, lay on the sofa and watch tv, do the laundry

as I always did and not fear of spreading mites everywhere. I'm over keeping the

vacuum bag in the freezer. Thank God, it's OVER!!!

>

>The pastor/counsellor was surprised I accepted the diagnosis because most

people reject it. When I read it I saw that it described my experience exactly

and I am very grateful that God gave him the wisdom to point me in the right

direction.

>

>I have a new friend here in town who has experienced the same symptoms for 3

years. It appears hers are caused by an energy drink she had begun using and has

used since right before that time. I got her the black light and she, too saw

nothing and so she is on the road to recovery.

>

>Sharon

>

>> >

>> > So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a Ph.D., M.S.

>> > Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back.

>> > " Sharon,

>> > After reading your email, I believe that I know what the problem is. I

understand that this is a serious problem for you, and it has caused great

stress. Please do not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel

confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you come and see me

tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to call off sick from work tomorrow to

make the appointment with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you. Email

me back and let me know which time works best for you Sharon. "

>> >

>> > I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read the following links -

they are exactly his diagnosis. In fact, he had printed these two sites out and

gave them to me.

>> >

>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis

>> >

>> > http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication

>> >

>> > They describe my situation exactly! Except that I have never been a drug

user nor have I ever even tried drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this

to me?

>> >

>> > I'll post #3 tomorrow.

>> > Sharon

>> >

>>

>

>------------------------------------

>

May 21, 2012

Im just delighted for you that the crawlies have stopped!

And that its over!!

:-)

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On Mon, May 21, 2012 09:54 PDT birdluvr4evr wrote:

>Four things happened:

>1) The exterminator told me " I've been doing this for 30 years and I can tell

you if you can't see them they aren't there " . And he also told me about the

retired swat team member who had the same thing and was healed with St s

Wort. He also told me to check with a black light.

>2) After I got off the phone with the exterminator I ran to Whole Foods and

bought what I perceived to be the best St s Wort on their shelf and

immediately began taking it. Before bed that night I had taken 3 doses.

>3) That night, in the middle of the night when the crawling woke me up, I

checked the air mattress and me, using the black light (a long tubular light I

got at Wal-Mart) and a super magnifier. There was not a crawling thing to be

found. I knew then that there were no mites and at that point ALL the crawling

stopped. Call it what you will - IT IS OVER!

>4) Maybe, just maybe all the Chinese meds I had taken wore out of my system or

maybe the St s Wort cancelled them out.

>5) Whether it's mind over matter, I'll never know but all I can tell you is my

life is getting back to normal and I do not have the crawlys anymore.

>

>Those articles on " Delusional Parasitosis " & " Formication " describe my

experience to a T. I believe the Chinese meds screwed up my nervous system. The

last Accupuncturist I went to told me it was my circulation & Central Nervous

System. While I was in the treatment room all needled up he went out to the

waiting room and told my husband that he should take me to a medical doctor

because I needed treatment he couldn't give me.

>

>What more can I say?

>Sharon

>

>> > >

>> > > So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a Ph.D., M.S.

>> > > Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back.

>> > > " Sharon,

>> > > After reading your email, I believe that I know what the problem is. I

understand that this is a serious problem for you, and it has caused great

stress. Please do not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel

confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you come and see me

tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to call off sick from work tomorrow to

make the appointment with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you. Email

me back and let me know which time works best for you Sharon. "

>> > >

>> > > I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read the following links

- they are exactly his diagnosis. In fact, he had printed these two sites out

and gave them to me.

>> > >

>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis

>> > >

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication

>> > >

>> > > They describe my situation exactly! Except that I have never been a drug

user nor have I ever even tried drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this

to me?

>> > >

>> > > I'll post #3 tomorrow.

>> > > Sharon

>> > >

>> >

>> >------------------------------------

>> >

May 22, 2012

Thanks Gloria. Just one other thing as I read the article about formication from Sharon. I have never used or tried any of those drugs. In fact, other than medications from my doctors I've not used many prescription drugs or illegal drugs. Back in 1986 I got Lyme Disease, most likely while gardening barefoot. There is also a possibility that I got Lyme Disease as a result of a trip I had made to Lake Tahoe and as I usually had done, I went into the bush... hiking. When I first came down with this insidious illness I had a sensation of ants walking inside my skull. I had never had that sensation prior to getting ill. I spent 3 months in bed almost constantly sleeping, and had so many symptoms of illness and near death, it would take many paragraphs to describe all the symptoms I came down with at that time.I am sure many people do develop formication or delusional parasitosis. I have no idea who they might be. I still have sensations although they are fewer than 3-4 years ago when I was bit constantly. Like many who have visited this site, it got better with time and with lots of treatments. This is not say that Sharon has found the answer for her. I hope and pray that is so. I have had many days when I thought this was all done. Unfortunately, that has not been 100% the case for me, but I still go on with my life.From: "gloria123445566" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:45:20 PMSubject: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horrorHey guys. Sharon's story sounds like mine. BUT, heck, I couldn't see any mites either, until I sprayed a combination of essential oils on my skin and looked through my 60x pocketscope that I bought off of Ebay for about 10 bucks. It had to be a 60x pocketscope, because the 30x was not powerful enough. Once I spray the oils and took a quick look, I could see them, extremely tiny, trying to move about on my skin, black in color. BUT, my vet had already diagnosed my cat with mites about a year before that, so I knew we had them, thanks to a smart vet who noticed a sore on my cat. I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT WAS BITING US, until the vet said it was sarcoptic mange mite. And believe me when I tell you this. It's a MIGHTY MITE, hard to break the life cycle, very active, crawling, biting, you name it. It's been many years for me and my pets. Delusional???? I DON'T THINK SO. I went through about 20 air mattresses and spend about 30 thousand dollars so far. Very expensive. Draining. Love reading your stories guys. Thank God that Sharon is done with her mitemare.>> So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a Ph.D., M.S.> Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back. > "Sharon,> After reading your email, I believe that I know what the problem is. I understand that this is a serious problem for you, and it has caused great stress. Please do not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you come and see me tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to call off sick from work tomorrow to make the appointment with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you. Email me back and let me know which time works best for you Sharon. "> > I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read the following links - they are exactly his diagnosis. In fact, he had printed these two sites out and gave them to me.> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis> > http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication> > They describe my situation exactly! Except that I have never been a drug user nor have I ever even tried drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this to me?> > I'll post #3 tomorrow.> Sharon>------------------------------------

May 22, 2012

I should have read what I wrote better... "this is not to say that Sharon has NOT found the answer for her." She may have! From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:57:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horror

Thanks Gloria. Just one other thing as I read the article about formication from Sharon. I have never used or tried any of those drugs. In fact, other than medications from my doctors I've not used many prescription drugs or illegal drugs. Back in 1986 I got Lyme Disease, most likely while gardening barefoot. There is also a possibility that I got Lyme Disease as a result of a trip I had made to Lake Tahoe and as I usually had done, I went into the bush... hiking. When I first came down with this insidious illness I had a sensation of ants walking inside my skull. I had never had that sensation prior to getting ill. I spent 3 months in bed almost constantly sleeping, and had so many symptoms of illness and near death, it would take many paragraphs to describe all the symptoms I came down with at that time.I am sure many people do develop formication or delusional parasitosis. I have no idea who they might be. I still have sensations although they are fewer than 3-4 years ago when I was bit constantly. Like many who have visited this site, it got better with time and with lots of treatments. This is not say that Sharon has found the answer for her. I hope and pray that is so. I have had many days when I thought this was all done. Unfortunately, that has not been 100% the case for me, but I still go on with my life.From: "gloria123445566" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:45:20 PMSubject: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horrorHey guys. Sharon's story sounds like mine. BUT, heck, I couldn't see any mites either, until I sprayed a combination of essential oils on my skin and looked through my 60x pocketscope that I bought off of Ebay for about 10 bucks. It had to be a 60x pocketscope, because the 30x was not powerful enough. Once I spray the oils and took a quick look, I could see them, extremely tiny, trying to move about on my skin, black in color. BUT, my vet had already diagnosed my cat with mites about a year before that, so I knew we had them, thanks to a smart vet who noticed a sore on my cat. I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT WAS BITING US, until the vet said it was sarcoptic mange mite. And believe me when I tell you this. It's a MIGHTY MITE, hard to break the life cycle, very active, crawling, biting, you name it. It's been many years for me and my pets. Delusional???? I DON'T THINK SO. I went through about 20 air mattresses and spend about 30 thousand dollars so far. Very expensive. Draining. Love reading your stories guys. Thank God that Sharon is done with her mitemare.>> So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a Ph.D., M.S.> Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back. > "Sharon,> After reading your email, I believe that I know what the problem is. I understand that this is a serious problem for you, and it has caused great stress. Please do not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you come and see me tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to call off sick from work tomorrow to make the appointment with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you. Email me back and let me know which time works best for you Sharon. "> > I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read the following links - they are exactly his diagnosis. In fact, he had printed these two sites out and gave them to me.> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis> > http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication> > They describe my situation exactly! Except that I have never been a drug user nor have I ever even tried drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this to me?> > I'll post #3 tomorrow.> Sharon>------------------------------------

May 22, 2012

I would be very wary about believing that this is truly what you

have. Did you already have the Igenex testing done?

I was also diagnosed with delusional parasitosis by my own

psychiatrist. And he had good reasons to believe that's what I had,

it was in fact a very very bad coincidence because at that time he

was treating me with two very strong medications (an MAOI, Parnate,

and a stimulant, Adderall.) You'd think it would make perfect sense

to believe that this combination would have caused me to develop

delusional parasitosis? Correct, Adderall is a strong stimulant,

similiar to Cocaine, and Parnate is a stimulating MAOI. I didn't

blame my doctor for believing it.

However, I knew for a fact that that was NOT the case. And the

reason I knew it was simple: My mitemare didn't begin one day out of

nowhere during the course of my treatment. Something major had to

happen for it to occur, and I knew exactly what it was: I bought a

piece of furniture that had been refurbished. After a week, I

discovered it was infested with mites. I tried to kill them, and

that caused them to jump all over me and I became their host. I put

a pan with hot steaming water in my room (like recommended on

birdmites.org) to catch a mite, and I did, I caught about 3. I took

them to my psychiatrist, he saw them, he saw the marks on my skin,

and he believed me for a few days. But then he went back to his old

theory and asked me where did I find those critters.

I took the mites and the Morgellons organisms to an entomologist, he

ID'd them as "baby spiders" and "unidentified organism." Then people

around me would scratch all the time, did I imagine that too? When I

moved out of my apartment, the guy who helped me said he felt very

itchy for several days after he helped me move out.

Delusional parasitosis? I doubt it. There's plenty of evidence

showing that this was real. And plenty of people with the exact same

story and symptoms who were never on medications.

So I would advice you don't necessarily believe everything they tell

you about delusional parasitosis. The entomologist I saw was

receiving dozens of samples of the same stuff I had: "debris". So

there is something strange going on in the environment and it's not

delusional parasitosis, although it perfectly fits the description.

Do your research. The testing would be the biggest proof that you

have something other than DP.

Jess

On 5/22/2012 3:45 PM, gloria123445566 wrote:

Hey guys. Sharon's story sounds like mine. BUT, heck, I

couldn't see any mites either, until I sprayed a

combination of essential oils on my skin and looked

through my 60x pocketscope that I bought off of Ebay for

about 10 bucks. It had to be a 60x pocketscope, because

the 30x was not powerful enough. Once I spray the oils and

took a quick look, I could see them, extremely tiny,

trying to move about on my skin, black in color. BUT, my

vet had already diagnosed my cat with mites about a year

before that, so I knew we had them, thanks to a smart vet

who noticed a sore on my cat. I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA

WHAT WAS BITING US, until the vet said it was sarcoptic

mange mite. And believe me when I tell you this. It's a

MIGHTY MITE, hard to break the life cycle, very active,

crawling, biting, you name it. It's been many years for me

and my pets. Delusional???? I DON'T THINK SO. I went

through about 20 air mattresses and spend about 30

thousand dollars so far. Very expensive. Draining. Love

reading your stories guys. Thank God that Sharon is done

with her mitemare.

>

> So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a

Ph.D., M.S.

> Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back.

> "Sharon,

> After reading your email, I believe that I know what

the problem is. I understand that this is a serious

problem for you, and it has caused great stress. Please do

not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel

confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you

come and see me tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to

call off sick from work tomorrow to make the appointment

with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you.

Email me back and let me know which time works best for

you Sharon. "

>

> I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read

the following links - they are exactly his diagnosis. In

fact, he had printed these two sites out and gave them to

me.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis

>

> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication

>

> They describe my situation exactly! Except that I

have never been a drug user nor have I ever even tried

drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this to me?

>

> I'll post #3 tomorrow.

> Sharon

>

May 22, 2012

DP is extremely rare, I read a study on it sometime back, don't know where.AandrayaOn May 22, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Thanks Gloria. Just one other thing as I read the article about formication from Sharon. I have never used or tried any of those drugs. In fact, other than medications from my doctors I've not used many prescription drugs or illegal drugs. Back in 1986 I got Lyme Disease, most likely while gardening barefoot. There is also a possibility that I got Lyme Disease as a result of a trip I had made to Lake Tahoe and as I usually had done, I went into the bush... hiking. When I first came down with this insidious illness I had a sensation of ants walking inside my skull. I had never had that sensation prior to getting ill. I spent 3 months in bed almost constantly sleeping, and had so many symptoms of illness and near death, it would take many paragraphs to describe all the symptoms I came down with at that time.I am sure many

people do develop formication or delusional parasitosis. I have no idea who they might be. I still have sensations although they are fewer than 3-4 years ago when I was bit constantly. Like many who have visited this site, it got better with time and with lots of treatments. This is not say that Sharon has found the answer for her. I hope and pray that is so. I have had many days when I thought this was all done. Unfortunately, that has not been 100% the case for me, but I still go on with my life.From: "gloria123445566" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:45:20 PMSubject: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horrorHey guys. Sharon's story sounds like mine. BUT, heck, I couldn't see any mites either, until I sprayed a combination of essential oils on

my skin and looked through my 60x pocketscope that I bought off of Ebay for about 10 bucks. It had to be a 60x pocketscope, because the 30x was not powerful enough. Once I spray the oils and took a quick look, I could see them, extremely tiny, trying to move about on my skin, black in color. BUT, my vet had already diagnosed my cat with mites about a year before that, so I knew we had them, thanks to a smart vet who noticed a sore on my cat. I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT WAS BITING US, until the vet said it was sarcoptic mange mite. And believe me when I tell you this. It's a MIGHTY MITE, hard to break the life cycle, very active, crawling, biting, you name it. It's been many years for me and my pets. Delusional???? I DON'T THINK SO. I went through about 20 air mattresses and spend about 30 thousand dollars so far. Very expensive. Draining. Love reading your stories guys. Thank God that Sharon is done with her

mitemare.>> So, in response to my e-mail, the pastor who is a Ph.D., M.S.> Licensed Mental Health Counselor, e-mailed me back. > "Sharon,> After reading your email, I believe that I know what the problem is. I understand that this is a serious problem for you, and it has caused great stress. Please do not consider hurting yourself. There is hope, and I feel confident that we can help you with the solution. Can you come and see me tomorrow at 10:30am or 3pm? If you need to call off sick from work tomorrow to make the appointment with me, then call off sick. We are here to help you. Email me back and let me know which time works best for you Sharon. "> > I went in at 3pm and he had a diagnosis. Please read the following links - they are exactly his diagnosis. In fact, he had printed these two sites out and gave them to me.> >

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis> > http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/odd-curious-and-rare/200911/formication> > They describe my situation exactly! Except that I have never been a drug user nor have I ever even tried drugs of any kind. So what in the world did this to me?> > I'll post #3 tomorrow.> Sharon>------------------------------------

May 23, 2012

That is interesting Jess. How are you? I think of you so often.When we made the decision to have our carpets removed we tried to find a company that would remove the carpets and protect their workers. We paid extra for that and were up front about what we needed and why. The poor workers came in with no protection... as they were leaving and standing at the top of the stairs, one of the men started jumping all over the place because of all the stuff that had crawled on him. He had no idea why he was removing the carpets either. We felt really bad about that, but we tried to do the right thing getting a special environmentally sound place to remove carpets. Nonetheless, it has always stood in my mind that it was not just us that were being attacked. This fellow was too.From: "jessnyc" <helpnynow@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:31:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Post # 2 of the end of my horror