Re: On the trail of a fungi

May 20, 2012

Hi Terry

I used 1 cup borax & 2 cups epsom salts & 1.5 gallons of water in the tri-jet

every 3 days for 1 month. Stopped all bugs & fungus & mold. Still spray walls w/

2 tbls coconut oil & 48 oz of warm water.

If it is a fungus as I think is part of this stabbing piercing or sliver like

feeling & instant infection . Betadine wiped on to damp skin & left for 5 mins

then rinsed took them out of my hands where they used to attack daily.

Mold control by concrobium & sold at Home depot contains sodium carbonate .

Concrobium reccomends using a tri-jet fogger which Home depot rents for 40.00

or so per day. I had a major change in all this bug ordeal when I ran the fogger

every 3 days in each room while I was gone , I used a lamp timer set on 30 mins

from the dollar store & a tri-jet fogger from www.cedarcide.com for $200.00 ,

best 200 I ever spent .I used 1 cup borax & & 2 cups epsom salts & 1.5 gallons

of water in the tri-jet (sometimes 1 cup windex also , but windex is nasty !.

Painting the walls & cieling also helped a lot. The trijet makes a wet spot 8'

out in front of its discharge area, an 8X12' sheet of palstic placed there

with a towel or 2 on the plastic should soak up most of the excess water . Then

roll up plastic & drip dry in the tub & spray the area thatwas under the

plastic where the fogger could not get to. .

Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent contains contains sodium carbonate as

does Mold control by Concrobium . I sprayed Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry

Detergent 1 cup per gallon on the cielings & walls & floors also. It is the end

of this bug & his buddies (mold, fungus, bacteria & worms) , it takes time but

these are useful tools both the tri-jet & the borax & the Arm & Hammer Powdered

Laundry Detergent and the epsom ( and rarely the windew theough the windex is

greatsprayed in a tray of water to poisonthe thirsty bugs since I hade my heat &

stove on high almost always & hept my house as dry as a kindling a drought in

July .

..

God bless you Terry,

Bill

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some

[is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day

approaching.

Two strands are strong but three makes a cord & who can break it

Heb 10:25

------------------------------

On Sun, May 20, 2012 6:27 AM EDT mitesbegone wrote:

>Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder

>too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to

>instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may

>have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI

>

>If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we

>have been dealing with. Consider the following article:

>

>Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were

>among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests.

>However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in

>integrated pest management (IPM).

>

>A study presented at SEARCAÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar

>Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study,

>Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at

>Indonesia University of Education, found three species of

>entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria

>bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite,

>Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings.

>

>T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it

>usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the

>older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes

>the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the

>plant.

>

>Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and

>B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites,

>having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to

>four days. This is relatively faster than other en

May 20, 2012

Once again great info Bill. I STILL have not used my tri jet fogger ($200), in a box, or my one quart of Cedarcide I purchased 2 years ago, but with all the spiders coming once again in my house, it will be used tomorrow. My husband is using silicone to fill in cracks between baseboards and floor today, places these buggers hide. I think the outside needs to be treated too, but with what? Every year since getting the mites we have also had these spiders and their babies in droves. Have DE on the covered pateo, will clean off and put down fresh. Must think of something... spiders are harder to kill than many insects. Of course, mites are the worst.From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:15:37 PMSubject: Re: On the trail of a fungiHi Terry I used 1 cup borax & 2 cups epsom salts & 1.5 gallons of water in the tri-jet every 3 days for 1 month. Stopped all bugs & fungus & mold. Still spray walls w/ 2 tbls coconut oil & 48 oz of warm water. If it is a fungus as I think is part of this stabbing piercing or sliver like feeling & instant infection . Betadine wiped on to damp skin & left for 5 mins then rinsed took them out of my hands where they used to attack daily. Mold control by concrobium & sold at Home depot contains sodium carbonate . Concrobium reccomends using a tri-jet fogger which Home depot rents for 40.00 or so per day. I had a major change in all this bug ordeal when I ran the fogger every 3 days in each room while I was gone , I used a lamp timer set on 30 mins from the dollar store & a tri-jet fogger from www.cedarcide.com for $200.00 , best 200 I ever spent .I used 1 cup borax & & 2 cups epsom salts & 1.5 gallons of water in the tri-jet (sometimes 1 cup windex also , but windex is nasty !. Painting the walls & cieling also helped a lot. The trijet makes a wet spot 8' out in front of its discharge area, an 8X12' sheet of palstic placed there with a towel or 2 on the plastic should soak up most of the excess water . Then roll up plastic & drip dry in the tub & spray the area thatwas under the plastic where the fogger could not get to. . Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent contains contains sodium carbonate as does Mold control by Concrobium . I sprayed Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gallon on the cielings & walls & floors also. It is the end of this bug & his buddies (mold, fungus, bacteria & worms) , it takes time but these are useful tools both the tri-jet & the borax & the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent and the epsom ( and rarely the windew theough the windex is greatsprayed in a tray of water to poisonthe thirsty bugs since I hade my heat & stove on high almost always & hept my house as dry as a kindling a drought in July . . God bless you Terry, Bill 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.Two strands are strong but three makes a cord & who can break it Heb 10:25--------------------------- >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we >have been dealing with. Consider the following article: > > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests. >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in >integrated pest management (IPM). > >A study presented at SEARCAÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study, >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite, >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings. > > > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the >plant. > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites, >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to >four days. This is relatively faster than other en------------------------------------

May 20, 2012

Hi

Dishsoap (dawn is the best smelling ) 1 cup per quart of water in a Chapin pump

sprayer or my favotire 2 cup in an hose end sprayer from home depot ($6.99) & set

the dial to full concentration , eather of these kills spiders in 30 seconds

flat.

Skf the lay thet told me of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent had lesions

, bumps ,fibers ,itching very bad for 2 years she attemped many pesticide

approaches & it didn't do the trick unlill she used Arm & Hammer Powdered

Laundry Detergent 1 cup inthe bath soak for 20-30 mins & 1 cup per gallon in a

spayer & coated het gouse top to bottom .....and the outside of her house

One day I spilled my a & h soap on the ground 20' away form my front door so I

took an electric weedeater brand leave blower ($23.00 at walmart & blew the 4

cup of power at the front of my house . I have never been bit in 2 years now in

front of my house . I used to get swared every time I pulled up to the house

rolled down my window of my car , even in the winter. But not anymore , ever.

breathing the dust of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ( the sodium

carbonate) will hurt you badly , I hold my breath around the powder & move up

wind quick after using it & wait 5 min ,after that I have not been bothered by

the dust , it seems to stick & kill forever...

thei dust is deadly , look at the msds

.......Breathing dusts can cause severe irritation, delayed pulmonary edema, and

nasal septum deviation. Skin....

The whole msds sheet :

1. Product Information Product Name:

Arm & Hammer Laundry Detergent

a. Acute Health Effects:

From MSDS

Inhalation: Breathing dusts can cause severe irritation, delayed pulmonary

edema, and nasal septum deviation. Skin Contact: Not a primary skin irritant;

various severities of irritation are possible on prolonged, repeated or occluded

contact. Eye Contact: Severe irritant; burns and potential injury upon prolonged

contact. Ingestion: Slightly toxic; ingestion can cause severe pain, diarrhea,

and corrosive damage to the GI tract.

Product Information Product Name:

Arm & Hammer Laundry Detergent

Form:

powder

Product Category:

Inside the Home Cleaner laundry

Inside the Home Detergent laundry

Inside the Home Laundry detergent/soap

Customer Service:

800-524-1328

Date Entered:

1996-08-21

Related Items:

Products by this manufacturer

The following information (Health Effects, Handling/Disposal, and Ingredients)

is taken from the product label and/or the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS)

prepared by the manufacturer. The National Library of Medicine does not test

products nor does it evaluate information from the product label or the MSDS.

(What is an MSDS?)

Health Effects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edema

delayed pulmonary edema,

Pulmonary edema occurs when the pressure in blood vessels in the lung is raised

because of obstruction to removal of blood via the pulmonary veins. This is

usually due to failure of the left ventricle of the heart. It can also occur in

altitude sickness or on inhalation of toxic chemicals. Pulmonary edema produces

shortness of breath. Pleural effusions may occur when fluid also accumulates in

the pleural cavity.

wiki nasal septum deviation

( http://search./search?p=nasal+septum+deviation & fr=sfp & fr2= & iscqry=

)

Nasal septum deviation is a common physical disorder of the nose, involving a

displacement of the nasal septum.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviated_septum - 53k - Cached

[LINK]

SEPTAL DEVIATION - WHAT IS SEPTOPLASTY? OTOLARYNGOLOGY HOUSTON

The nasal septum is the vertical wall that divides the nose into two nasal

cavities. ... The nasal cavities and nasal septum are lined with a thin membrane

of ...

www.ghorayeb.com/SeptumSurgery.html - Cached

WIKI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviated_septum

excerpt :

In most cases a deviated septum can be corrected with a minor surgical procedure

known as a septoplasty, in which the surgeon enters through the nostrils and

cuts away the obtruding matter.[3] The surgery is performed quickly (it takes

around 1 hour) but the patient may take one to three weeks to fully recover.

God bless you ,

Bill

110:1 (A

Psalm of .) The LORD said unto my Lord,

Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst

of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in

the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy

youth

:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. Jesus is Lord of All l:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.

`,,`,,`

.... __/ /\____ ____

, o`,/__/ _/\_ //____/\

```)( | | | | | | | || |l |

,.- ,.-~~-., `-. :

As forme and my house,

We will serve YHWH!

,,`,,``

(Mat 27:40

50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51

And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the

bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were

opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the

graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto

many. 54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus,

saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly,

saying, Truly this was the Son of God. 55 And many women were there beholding

afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee,

Psalm 68:18

18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast

received gifts for men; yea, [for] the rebellious also, that the LORD God might

dwell [among them]. 19 Blessed [be] the Lord, [who] daily loadeth us [with

benefits, even] the God of our salvation. Selah.

------------------------------

On Sun, May 20, 2012 4:34 PM EDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>Once again great info Bill. I STILL have not used my tri jet fogger ($200), in

a box, or my one quart of Cedarcide I purchased 2 years ago, but with all the

spiders coming once again in my house, it will be used tomorrow. My husband is

using silicone to fill in cracks between baseboards and floor today, places

these buggers hide. I think the outside needs to be treated too, but with what?

Every year since getting the mites we have also had these spiders and their

babies in droves. Have DE on the covered pateo, will clean off and put down

fresh. Must think of something... spiders are harder to kill than many insects.

Of course, mites are the worst.

>

> Re: On the trail of a fungi

>

>Hi Terry

>

>I used 1 cup borax & 2 cups epsom salts & 1.5 gallons of water in the tri-jet

every 3 days for 1 month. Stopped all bugs & fungus & mold. Still spray walls w/

2 tbls coconut oil & 48 oz of warm water.

>

>If it is a fungus as I think is part of this stabbing piercing or sliver like

feeling & instant infection . Betadine wiped on to damp skin & left for 5 mins

then rinsed took them out of my hands where they used to attack daily.

>Mold control by concrobium & sold at Home depot contains sodium carbonate .

Concrobium reccomends using a tri-jet fogger which Home depot rents for 40.00 or

so per day. I had a major change in all this bug ordeal when I ran the fogger

every 3 days in each room while I was gone , I used a lamp timer set on 30 mins

from the dollar store & a tri-jet fogger from www.cedarcide.com for $200.00 ,

best 200 I ever spent .I used 1 cup borax & & 2 cups ep

May 20, 2012

And God bless you too Bill. Thanks for the info. I think maybe instead of spreading DE outside I will spread the A & H instead to kill spiders. Do you think the liquid A & H is any good? I bought it last time for wash, but have a hard time finding the A & H dermatologist tested... low odor version for me is best. I had no idea A & H was that deadly, so I'll be careful with it. I've only used it for wash and a few times in the bath with Borax. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:20:16 PMSubject: Re: On the trail of a fungiHi Dishsoap (dawn is the best smelling ) 1 cup per quart of water in a Chapin pump sprayer or my favotire 2 cup in an hose end sprayer from home depot ($6.99) & set the dial to full concentration , eather of these kills spiders in 30 seconds flat. Skf the lay thet told me of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent had lesions , bumps ,fibers ,itching very bad for 2 years she attemped many pesticide approaches & it didn't do the trick unlill she used Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup inthe bath soak for 20-30 mins & 1 cup per gallon in a spayer & coated het gouse top to bottom .....and the outside of her house One day I spilled my a & h soap on the ground 20' away form my front door so I took an electric weedeater brand leave blower ($23.00 at walmart & blew the 4 cup of power at the front of my house . I have never been bit in 2 years now in front of my house . I used to get swared every time I pulled up to the house rolled down my window of my car , even in the winter. But not anymore , ever. breathing the dust of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ( the sodium carbonate) will hurt you badly , I hold my breath around the powder & move up wind quick after using it & wait 5 min ,after that I have not been bothered by the dust , it seems to stick & kill forever... thei dust is deadly , look at the msds ......Breathing dusts can cause severe irritation, delayed pulmonary edema, and nasal septum deviation. Skin....The whole msds sheet : 1. Product Information Product Name:Arm & Hammer Laundry Detergent a. Acute Health Effects:From MSDS Inhalation: Breathing dusts can cause severe irritation, delayed pulmonary edema, and nasal septum deviation. Skin Contact: Not a primary skin irritant; various severities of irritation are possible on prolonged, repeated or occluded contact. Eye Contact: Severe irritant; burns and potential injury upon prolonged contact. Ingestion: Slightly toxic; ingestion can cause severe pain, diarrhea, and corrosive damage to the GI tract.Product Information Product Name:Arm & Hammer Laundry DetergentForm:powderProduct Category:Inside the Home Cleaner laundryInside the Home Detergent laundryInside the Home Laundry detergent/soapCustomer Service:800-524-1328Date Entered:1996-08-21 Related Items:Products with similar usage in this databaseManufacturer Manufacturer:Church & Dwight Co., Inc.Address:469 N. on StreetCity:PrincetonState:NJZip Code:8540Telephone Number:609-683-5900Fax Number:609-683-5092Toll Free Number:800-524-1328Date Info Verified:2008-01-09 Related Items:Products by this manufacturerThe following information (Health Effects, Handling/Disposal, and Ingredients) is taken from the product label and/or the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) prepared by the manufacturer. The National Library of Medicine does not test products nor does it evaluate information from the product label or the MSDS. (What is an MSDS?) Health Effects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edemadelayed pulmonary edema,Pulmonary edema occurs when the pressure in blood vessels in the lung is raised because of obstruction to removal of blood via the pulmonary veins. This is usually due to failure of the left ventricle of the heart. It can also occur in altitude sickness or on inhalation of toxic chemicals. Pulmonary edema produces shortness of breath. Pleural effusions may occur when fluid also accumulates in the pleural cavity.wiki nasal septum deviation( http://search./search?p=nasal+septum+deviation & fr=sfp & fr2= & iscqry= )Nasal septum deviation is a common physical disorder of the nose, involving a displacement of the nasal septum.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviated_septum - 53k - Cached[LINK]SEPTAL DEVIATION - WHAT IS SEPTOPLASTY? OTOLARYNGOLOGY HOUSTONThe nasal septum is the vertical wall that divides the nose into two nasal cavities. ... The nasal cavities and nasal septum are lined with a thin membrane of ...www.ghorayeb.com/SeptumSurgery.html - CachedWIKI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviated_septumexcerpt :In most cases a deviated septum can be corrected with a minor surgical procedure known as a septoplasty, in which the surgeon enters through the nostrils and cuts away the obtruding matter.[3] The surgery is performed quickly (it takes around 1 hour) but the patient may take one to three weeks to fully recover. God bless you , Bill 110:1 (A Psalm of .) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. Jesus is Lord of All l:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.`,,`,,` ... __/ /\____ ____ , o`,/__/ _/\_ //____/\```)( | | | | | | | || |l |,.- ,.-~~-., `-. :As forme and my house, We will serve YHWH! ,,`,,`` (Mat 27:4050 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. 55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee,Psalm 68:18 18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, [for] the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell [among them]. 19 Blessed [be] the Lord, [who] daily loadeth us [with benefits, even] the God of our salvation. Selah. --------------------------- >Once again great info Bill. I STILL have not used my tri jet fogger ($200), in a box, or my one quart of Cedarcide I purchased 2 years ago, but with all the spiders coming once again in my house, it will be used tomorrow. My husband is using silicone to fill in cracks between baseboards and floor today, places these buggers hide. I think the outside needs to be treated too, but with what? Every year since getting the mites we have also had these spiders and their babies in droves. Have DE on the covered pateo, will clean off and put down fresh. Must think of something... spiders are harder to kill than many insects. Of course, mites are the worst. > > > > > > Re: On the trail of a fungi > > >Hi Terry > >I used 1 cup borax & 2 cups epsom salts & 1.5 gallons of water in the tri-jet every 3 days for 1 month. Stopped all bugs & fungus & mold. Still spray walls w/ 2 tbls coconut oil & 48 oz of warm water. > > >If it is a fungus as I think is part of this stabbing piercing or sliver like feeling & instant infection . Betadine wiped on to damp skin & left for 5 mins then rinsed took them out of my hands where they used to attack daily. >Mold control by concrobium & sold at Home depot contains sodium carbonate . Concrobium reccomends using a tri-jet fogger which Home depot rents for 40.00 or so per day. I had a major change in all this bug ordeal when I ran the fogger every 3 days in each room while I was gone , I used a lamp timer set on 30 mins from the dollar store & a tri-jet fogger from www.cedarcide.com for $200.00 , best 200 I ever spent .I used 1 cup borax & & 2 cups ep------------------------------------

May 20, 2012

Thank you so much Bill. I do believe this is a fungus that is causing that

instant sliver of pain as well as the swarming that many of us have experienced.

I, like many others, could not understand how a slow moving mite could suddenly

be in your face. A pathogenic fungus with spores would explain it. I think the

Betadine is an excellent solution as it is used effectively to instantly kill

bacteria and germs in the hospital, it probably works well in this case too. Do

you wear gloves, cause I know it will stain the hands orange.

I have been using Lysol complete clean which seems to be working, but the fungus

is persistent. I may have to switch over to A & H with Borax or Epsom salts. I

know the fungus will have difficulty surviving that.

As always Bill, thank you for instant and wonderful advice and recommendations.

God Bless you, Terry

>

> >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder

> >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to

> >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may

> >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI

> >

> >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we

> >have been dealing with. Consider the following article:

> >

> >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were

> >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests.

> >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in

> >integrated pest management (IPM).

> >

> >A study presented at SEARCAÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar

> >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study,

> >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at

> >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of

> >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria

> >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite,

> >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings.

> >

> >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it

> >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the

> >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes

> >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the

> >plant.

> >

> >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and

> >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites,

> >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to

> >four days. This is relatively faster than other en

>

May 20, 2012

, do you think the spiders are related to the mites? I would truly love to

know if this fungus is harmful to humans or not. I know that we feel the

stinging and the swarming from the fungus and I can only assume that is not

healthy for us, but it is also definitely not healthy for insects as it wipes

them out.

Despite Dr. Sparagano and others telling me that when I return home I will

continue to be bedeviled by mites, I have not really had that problem. They

seem to have either disappeared or been consumed by this fungus.

I only recently saw a flying bug come into the house and I think that was

because the door was open. I don't encounter any type of bug now. But, I am

always waiting, for something. What kinds of spiders are these?

I wish you the best in your continual fight against the microbe invasion.

Terry

>

> >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder

> >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to

> >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may

> >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI

> >

> >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we

> >have been dealing with. Consider the following article:

> >

> >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were

> >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests.

> >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in

> >integrated pest management (IPM).

> >

> >A study presented at SEARCAÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar

> >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study,

> >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at

> >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of

> >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria

> >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite,

> >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings.

> >

> >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it

> >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the

> >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes

> >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the

> >plant.

> >

> >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and

> >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites,

> >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to

> >four days. This is relatively faster than other en

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 20, 2012

HI TERRYI will try to see what the type of these spiders are, but my husband and I have both gotten bites from them that look like a Lyme rash. They vary in size from tiny (baby) to about the size of a pea, once in a while blackish and usually a light tan. I'll see if I can identify. From: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:21:49 PMSubject: Re: On the trail of a fungi, do you think the spiders are related to the mites? I would truly love to know if this fungus is harmful to humans or not. I know that we feel the stinging and the swarming from the fungus and I can only assume that is not healthy for us, but it is also definitely not healthy for insects as it wipes them out.Despite Dr. Sparagano and others telling me that when I return home I will continue to be bedeviled by mites, I have not really had that problem. They seem to have either disappeared or been consumed by this fungus.I only recently saw a flying bug come into the house and I think that was because the door was open. I don't encounter any type of bug now. But, I am always waiting, for something. What kinds of spiders are these? I wish you the best in your continual fight against the microbe invasion.Terry > > >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder > >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to > >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may > >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI > > > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we > >have been dealing with. Consider the following article: > > > > > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were > >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests. > >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in > >integrated pest management (IPM). > > > >A study presented at SEARCAÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar > >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study, > >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at > >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of > >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria > >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite, > >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings. > > > > > > > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it > >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the > >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes > >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the > >plant. > > > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and > >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites, > >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to > >four days. This is relatively faster than other en > > > ------------------------------------ > >

May 20, 2012

One thing I can tell you is that they are not web spinning spiders, but hunters... they are looking for food, but not by the means of a web.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:25:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: On the trail of a fungi

HI TERRYI will try to see what the type of these spiders are, but my husband and I have both gotten bites from them that look like a Lyme rash. They vary in size from tiny (baby) to about the size of a pea, once in a while blackish and usually a light tan. I'll see if I can identify. From: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:21:49 PMSubject: Re: On the trail of a fungi, do you think the spiders are related to the mites? I would truly love to know if this fungus is harmful to humans or not. I know that we feel the stinging and the swarming from the fungus and I can only assume that is not healthy for us, but it is also definitely not healthy for insects as it wipes them out.Despite Dr. Sparagano and others telling me that when I return home I will continue to be bedeviled by mites, I have not really had that problem. They seem to have either disappeared or been consumed by this fungus.I only recently saw a flying bug come into the house and I think that was because the door was open. I don't encounter any type of bug now. But, I am always waiting, for something. What kinds of spiders are these? I wish you the best in your continual fight against the microbe invasion.Terry > > >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder > >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to > >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may > >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI > > > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we > >have been dealing with. Consider the following article: > > > > > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were > >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests. > >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in > >integrated pest management (IPM). > > > >A study presented at SEARCAÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar > >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study, > >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at > >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of > >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria > >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite, > >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings. > > > > > > > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it > >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the > >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes > >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the > >plant. > > > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and > >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites, > >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to > >four days. This is relatively faster than other en > > > ------------------------------------ > >

May 20, 2012

Hi , you are awesome. I am concerned about your rash as well. I believe

you and your husband both suffered together from the mite attack, then the

attack from the fungus and now these spiders!! I can't help but think this is

more than coincidence. Do you know if you were successful in completely

eradicating the mite and the fungus? I think you told me that you thought you

were about 99% clear of it. Have you had a sudden warm weather trend? It would

be good to see the rash...any way you would be comfortable sending me a

picture...privately. I have a good database finally getting build on images.

But if you do not wish to, I understand.

I feel as though I am really being a bit pushy here. If I am, please, anyone,

tell me so. I just want so much for everyone here, all you truly awesome

people, to be well...and me too of course. I probably have too much mother hen

in me as well. (and yes, I hate saying " hen " as it reminds me of poultry

mites).

Terry

And has anyone heard from Sharon? She posted her part one of her story and

since then, nothing. I am concerned about her.

> >

> > >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder

> > >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to

> > >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may

> > >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI

> > >

> > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we

> > >have been dealing with. Consider the following article:

> > >

> > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were

> > >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests.

> > >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in

> > >integrated pest management (IPM).

> > >

> > >A study presented at SEARCAÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Agriculture and Development

Seminar

> > >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study,

> > >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at

> > >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of

> > >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria

> > >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite,

> > >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings.

> > >

> > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it

> > >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the

> > >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes

> > >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the

> > >plant.

> > >

> > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and

> > >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites,

> > >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to

> > >four days. This is relatively faster than other en

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

May 20, 2012

I didn't keep a picture since we both were bit last year and the year before. I did take a picture, but I'd have to really search for it. I had changed computers and lost pictures so might not have any longer either.L.From: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:33:36 PMSubject: Re: On the trail of a fungiHi , you are awesome. I am concerned about your rash as well. I believe you and your husband both suffered together from the mite attack, then the attack from the fungus and now these spiders!! I can't help but think this is more than coincidence. Do you know if you were successful in completely eradicating the mite and the fungus? I think you told me that you thought you were about 99% clear of it. Have you had a sudden warm weather trend? It would be good to see the rash...any way you would be comfortable sending me a picture...privately. I have a good database finally getting build on images. But if you do not wish to, I understand.I feel as though I am really being a bit pushy here. If I am, please, anyone, tell me so. I just want so much for everyone here, all you truly awesome people, to be well...and me too of course. I probably have too much mother hen in me as well. (and yes, I hate saying "hen" as it reminds me of poultry mites).TerryAnd has anyone heard from Sharon? She posted her part one of her story and since then, nothing. I am concerned about her. > > > > >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder > > >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to > > >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may > > >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI > > > > > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we > > >have been dealing with. Consider the following article: > > > > > > > > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were > > >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests. > > >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in > > >integrated pest management (IPM). > > > > > >A study presented at SEARCAÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢s Agriculture and Development Seminar > > >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study, > > >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at > > >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of > > >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria > > >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite, > > >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings. > > > > > > > > > > > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it > > >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the > > >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes > > >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the > > >plant. > > > > > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and > > >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites, > > >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to > > >four days. This is relatively faster than other en > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > >

May 20, 2012

, that does not sound like your typical spider. That sounds like an

arthropod, probably a blood sucking arthropod. Do they have segmented bodies?

The aren't ticks are they? I know where you live they are endemic.

Here is one site you might check out to see if you can identify the pest:

http://bugguide.net/node/view/91197/bgimage

I wish you luck with this. You have been through so much. I keep trying not to

utter those three words " It's not fair " .

YOU are in my prayers.

Terry

> >

> > >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder

> > >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to

> > >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may

> > >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI

> > >

> > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we

> > >have been dealing with. Consider the following article:

> > >

> > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were

> > >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests.

> > >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in

> > >integrated pest management (IPM).

> > >

> > >A study presented at SEARCAÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Agriculture and Development

Seminar

> > >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study,

> > >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at

> > >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of

> > >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria

> > >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite,

> > >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings.

> > >

> > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it

> > >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the

> > >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes

> > >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the

> > >plant.

> > >

> > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and

> > >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites,

> > >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to

> > >four days. This is relatively faster than other en

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

May 20, 2012

I completely understand. I don't want you go to chasing around looking

for things. You are under enough pressure. I thought you currently had a rash.

I misunderstood. No worries. Let's just get this newest pest to leave you

alone!!

Terry

> > >

> > > >Well, I have successfully moved back into my home and before I ponder

> > > >too long as to the whys and wherefore art thou mite? I am going to

> > > >instead focus on the fungus that has remained in my home and which may

> > > >have a name (or at least a type of name). ENTOMOPATHOGENIC FUNGI

> > > >

> > > >If you have not heard that term before, this may very well be what we

> > > >have been dealing with. Consider the following article:

> > > >

> > > >Entomopathogenic fungi, or fungi that cause diseases on insects, were

> > > >among the first organisms used for the biological control of pests.

> > > >However, these fungi have only been recently recognized as important in

> > > >integrated pest management (IPM).

> > > >

> > > >A study presented at SEARCAÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢s

Agriculture and Development Seminar

> > > >Series (ADSS) on 21 June 2011 emphasized this importance. In his study,

> > > >Dr. Yayan Sanjaya, SEARCA PhD Research Scholar and Senior Instructor at

> > > >Indonesia University of Education, found three species of

> > > >entomopathogenic fungi, namely: Metarhizium anisopliae, Beauveria

> > > >bassiana, and Paecilomyces lilicanus as effective against spider mite,

> > > >Tetranychus kanzawai (T. kanzawai) in papaya seedlings.

> > > >

> > > >T. kanzawai is commonly found in Southeast Asia. In the Philippines, it

> > > >usually infests cassava and papaya plants, severely damaging even the

> > > >older leaves, and sometimes, the seedlings. Its serious damage causes

> > > >the leaves to dry up, thus, reducing photosynthetic activity of the

> > > >plant.

> > > >

> > > >Among the species, M. anisopliae isolate 5, M. anisopliae isolate 6, and

> > > >B. bassiana isolate 6 proved to be effective against spider mites,

> > > >having the fastest transmission of fungal infection of around two to

> > > >four days. This is relatively faster than other en

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

May 20, 2012

Hi

The liquid a & h is just soap like tide but the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry

Detergent contains sodium carbonate , it is only dangerous to breathe the dust

of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , when it is wet it is harmless , but

it kills bugs . 2 cup in a hose end sprayer with 2 cup of water , mix & attach

garden hose & spray away it kills spiders bees bugs , fungus , mold . It leaves

a white caulky residue that sticks so it keeps killing mold & fungi . The

white caulky washes off if needed with a brush & scrubbing.. The smell of the

regulas clan burst version is low odor & is sold at most all grocery stores ,

you can smell it thru the box without opening it , it is mild in scent. I don't

like the mountaln fresh scent, it is too strong.

Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent has cured many people by oaking in 1

cup of it for 20 mins . , if it dosent help with bugs, itches & lesions this mix

: is also ver effective :

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz

or bruning from this mix & it is cheap

If they are deep ones I use

8tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

8 oz peroxide (3%)

8 oz water.

God bless you ,

Bill

------------------------------

On Sun, May 20, 2012 6:08 PM EDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>And God bless you too Bill. Thanks for the info. I think maybe instead of

spreading DE outside I will spread the A & H instead to kill spiders. Do you

think the liquid A & H is any good? I bought it last time for wash, but have a

hard time finding the A & H dermatologist tested... low odor version for me is

best. I had no idea A & H was that deadly, so I'll be careful with it. I've only

used it for wash and a few times in the bath with Borax.

>

> Re: On the trail of a fungi

>

>Hi

>

>Dishsoap (dawn is the best smelling ) 1 cup per quart of water in a Chapin

pump sprayer or my favotire 2 cup in an hose end sprayer from home depot

($6.99) & set the dial to full concentration , eather of these kills spiders in

30 seconds flat.

>Skf the lay thet told me of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent had

lesions , bumps ,fibers ,itching very bad for 2 years she attemped many

pesticide approaches & it didn't do the trick unlill she used Arm & Hammer

Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup inthe bath soak for 20-30 mins & 1 cup per

gallon in a spayer & coated het gouse top to bottom .....and the outside of her

house

>One day I spilled my a & h soap on the ground 20' away form my front door so I

took an electric weedeater brand leave blower ($23.00 at walmart & blew the 4

cup of power at the front of my house . I have never been bit in 2 years now in

front of my house . I used to get swared every time I pulled up to the house

rolled down my window of my car , even in the winter. But not anymore , ever.

>breathing the dust of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ( the sodium

carbonate)

May 20, 2012

Thanks Bill. I didn't realize there was a difference. Won't make that mistake again. I wish the unscented powder version was easier to find. Hard to find around here. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:03:57 PMSubject: Re: On the trail of a fungiHi The liquid a & h is just soap like tide but the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent contains sodium carbonate , it is only dangerous to breathe the dust of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , when it is wet it is harmless , but it kills bugs . 2 cup in a hose end sprayer with 2 cup of water , mix & attach garden hose & spray away it kills spiders bees bugs , fungus , mold . It leaves a white caulky residue that sticks so it keeps killing mold & fungi . The white caulky washes off if needed with a brush & scrubbing.. The smell of the regulas clan burst version is low odor & is sold at most all grocery stores , you can smell it thru the box without opening it , it is mild in scent. I don't like the mountaln fresh scent, it is too strong. Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent has cured many people by oaking in 1 cup of it for 20 mins . , if it dosent help with bugs, itches & lesions this mix : is also ver effective : http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.htmlThe mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water.mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz or bruning from this mix & it is cheapIf they are deep ones I use 8tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster8 oz peroxide (3%)8 oz water. God bless you , Bill --------------------------- >And God bless you too Bill. Thanks for the info. I think maybe instead of spreading DE outside I will spread the A & H instead to kill spiders. Do you think the liquid A & H is any good? I bought it last time for wash, but have a hard time finding the A & H dermatologist tested... low odor version for me is best. I had no idea A & H was that deadly, so I'll be careful with it. I've only used it for wash and a few times in the bath with Borax. > > > > > Re: On the trail of a fungi > > >Hi > >Dishsoap (dawn is the best smelling ) 1 cup per quart of water in a Chapin pump sprayer or my favotire 2 cup in an hose end sprayer from home depot ($6.99) & set the dial to full concentration , eather of these kills spiders in 30 seconds flat. >Skf the lay thet told me of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent had lesions , bumps ,fibers ,itching very bad for 2 years she attemped many pesticide approaches & it didn't do the trick unlill she used Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup inthe bath soak for 20-30 mins & 1 cup per gallon in a spayer & coated het gouse top to bottom .....and the outside of her house >One day I spilled my a & h soap on the ground 20' away form my front door so I took an electric weedeater brand leave blower ($23.00 at walmart & blew the 4 cup of power at the front of my house . I have never been bit in 2 years now in front of my house . I used to get swared every time I pulled up to the house rolled down my window of my car , even in the winter. But not anymore , ever. >breathing the dust of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ( the sodium carbonate) ------------------------------------

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