Guest guest Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 It is good to hear from you mitesbegone. Congratulations on your daughter's marriage and soon to become a grandma! That is such a wonderful life affirming occurrence! I love being a grandma.Everyone on this site goes through so many life changes as a result of this experience... some of the experiences are years in the making. It has been 4 years since we first our first experience w/ birdmites. Much has occurred in 4 years. I was glad to know that you had gone to a LLMD but sad to hear that you do have Lyme Disease out of this experience. So many of us do end up with it, or some of us had LD pre-existing. The experience of "mites" did get better for me when I started treating with antibiotics and antifungals. The info you provided on the fungus killing mites is interesting. Do you have a scientific source for that? Not necessary if you can't find it, just curious mostly. I had gone on Itraconazole a few months back for fungal issues and my liver did not like it one bit; I had been on diflucan before that with no problems with the liver or increased enzyme activity. I went off the Itraconazole to get the liver enzymes back to normal. They are now back to normal. However, secondarily my ankles and feet started to swell and I'm dealing with that now. Never had that before. My father in law had that - and he had cirrhosis, so it does scare me a bit, plus I know you can get swelling like that from heart failure and/or kidney failure. I'm in the process of trying to go onto a low fat diet which I've just started, not following a regular diet, just following certain guidelines. I do have diabetes and a low fat diet is recommended (which I've ignored until now).During the time you were gone my daughter in Germany was back in the hospital with gallstones... a most painful thing. She had her gallbladder out 3 - 1/2 years ago, but you can still get stones in a duct or even in the liver which cause inflammation. We both no longer have our gallbladders. It is recommended to go on a low fat diet for this too, so when the family comes to visit in July-August we'll be eating low fat! So far we're having a good summer despite a lot of life changes, ups and downs. I'm still getting the same weird sensations on feet in very mild form, despite my medications, so at this point I just do not know - and they mostly come at late afternoon to evening. We're all in some kind of process... I think it is all internal for me.So good to hear from you mitesbegone! Please post when you have time.From: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:03:40 AMSubject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.Stay strong! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Thanks Terry , Bill ------------------------------ On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 7:03 AM EDT mitesbegone wrote: >Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the >world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I >know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. >I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the >bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > >First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering >groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be >forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief >from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching >sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we >select few will ever truly understand. > >There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort >and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at >our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what >doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as >well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary >between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those >tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may >be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to >the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > >But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast >forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I >believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that >perhaps, it had not. > >You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of >people, who first let me know I was not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Hello Terry-Sweetheart ! I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post ! I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here, but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ? It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-) Take care my friend Aggi Von: mitesbegone <no_reply >An: bird mites Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.Stay strong! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hi , thanks for your congrats. Whew, never thought I would survive the wedding. How ironic huh? I can survive bird mites and fungus and then not survive a wedding. But the two are so very far apart aren't they... I do have a scientific source on the fungus, in fact, I am going to be chasing down several sources. I have not lost contact with my Professor in England, just had to cool the communication during the last few weeks leading up to the wedding. Yes, this fungus does kill mites. And truly, it is a mixed bag. As horrible as the mites are, and they are truly truly a nightmare, the fungus is just as bad if not worse. However, the fungus does kill off the mites. How? I don't really know. Where it comes from? I don't know that either. But I am trying to research and bend my mind around the problem. I know I have had mites for a very long time. At least a year or more. But never really knew it as they focused on my poor canaries. I never understood why my birds were always so sickly. Well the doggone things (mites) hide during the day so I never saw them. But I did get bit and was scratching all the time. And me, my son and my dog were always sick. Never figured it out. Never put all those puzzle pieces together. But then when the mites got so bad that I saw them on a baby chick...well SNAP!!! That was the problem. So, got rid of the birds and boy oh boy did they fall upon me in droves. But you all know that I tried everything I could. Yes I contemplated Vikane gas, and heating my house and fogging and spraying...well there was a lot I did and a lot I thought about doing. But it was not me that killed them off. It was the fungus. Unfortunately, the fungus was an opportunistic feeder, so turned to me and the dogs when its mite sandwich was all gone. Looking back now...my son over a year ago displayed all the signs of Bartonella. He is yet to be tested. I had and still have all the signs of Lyme disease and Bart. Still can barely walk on my left foot. My dog also had all the signs and symptoms. She too could barely walk, always limping for the last year and a half. But 30 days of antibiotics and she has not limped since. My son's natural immune system seems to be helping him and well, I am on the road to recovery. It is good to look back and evaluate how you got here. Everyone who is dealing with this will look back on this as well...I promise you. It does not last forever. Now, I am not suggesting that everyone go out and get some fungus as their first line of defense. But, it does work. I will try and post some articles and links about it. And for those of you who can not see the mite, but sees black spots and feels itchy and feels like they are just breathing in something that irritates the throat and the nose...well it just could be fungus. And my plant sprayer loaded down with Lysol Complete Clean (diluted) does the job. Everytime something is left outside and it gets wet, that doggone fungus comes right back and my dogs start to scratch...and I just blast it with my fully loaded plant sprayer. I hope everyone gets through their own mitemare as quickly as they can with whatever works for them. If you find something that works, stick with it. You might have to change it up sometimes and go back and forth between a couple of different things...but don't give up. ...good luck with the swelling. Be very careful of that. Especially if the swelling is in the legs but stops at the feet. That could be lymphedema. And that is a very bad condition. I know, I used to have it. Hang in there everyone, Terry > > It is good to hear from you mitesbegone. Congratulations on your daughter's marriage and soon to become a grandma! That is such a wonderful life affirming occurrence! I love being a grandma. > > > Everyone on this site goes through so many life changes as a result of this experience... some of the experiences are years in the making. It has been 4 years since we first our first experience w/ birdmites. Much has occurred in 4 years. I was glad to know that you had gone to a LLMD but sad to hear that you do have Lyme Disease out of this experience. So many of us do end up with it, or some of us had LD pre-existing. The experience of " mites " did get better for me when I started treating with antibiotics and antifungals. > > > The info you provided on the fungus killing mites is interesting. Do you have a scientific source for that? Not necessary if you can't find it, just curious mostly. I had gone on Itraconazole a few months back for fungal issues and my liver did not like it one bit; I had been on diflucan before that with no problems with the liver or increased enzyme activity. I went off the Itraconazole to get the liver enzymes back to normal. They are now back to normal. However, secondarily my ankles and feet started to swell and I'm dealing with that now. Never had that before. My father in law had that - and he had cirrhosis, so it does scare me a bit, plus I know you can get swelling like that from heart failure and/or kidney failure. I'm in the process of trying to go onto a low fat diet which I've just started, not following a regular diet, just following certain guidelines. I do have diabetes and a low fat diet is recommended (which I've ignored until now). > > > During the time you were gone my daughter in Germany was back in the hospital with gallstones... a most painful thing. She had her gallbladder out 3 - 1/2 years ago, but you can still get stones in a duct or even in the liver which cause inflammation. We both no longer have our gallbladders. It is recommended to go on a low fat diet for this too, so when the family comes to visit in July-August we'll be eating low fat! > > > So far we're having a good summer despite a lot of life changes, ups and downs. I'm still getting the same weird sensations on feet in very mild form, despite my medications, so at this point I just do not know - and they mostly come at late afternoon to evening. We're all in some kind of process... I think it is all internal for me. > > > So good to hear from you mitesbegone! Please post when you have time. > > > > > > > > My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > Stay strong! Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Terry, Could it be this fungus?Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US0EmailMarci StoneSalt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. "This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing," said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported. From: mitesbegone <no_reply > bird mites Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.Stay strong! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Thanks for all your wisdom here Terry. I had never heard of Lymphedema. I wonder what causes it and how do you get rid of it? I suspected it might be a lymph build up since I've been on lots of meds with lots of die off. Also, this fungus you are mentioning really interests me, so when you have a source I'm looking forward to reading and more reading. I'm going to have to get the Lysol again and look for the correct one, because Lysol All Purpose Cleaner is not the right one. Please give me the correct name of the Lysol anyone... I've been in slow mode lately, slow head, slow body, etc. Prone to forget.Are you and your son doing okay now Terry? What is wrong with the left foot? Do you know? Thank God your son's immune system has kicked in. One thing that did change for me over a couple of years ... I don't have that strange itching I used to get periodically. Seems gone which is good.From: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 2:50:27 AMSubject: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with youHi , thanks for your congrats. Whew, never thought I would survive the wedding. How ironic huh? I can survive bird mites and fungus and then not survive a wedding. But the two are so very far apart aren't they...I do have a scientific source on the fungus, in fact, I am going to be chasing down several sources. I have not lost contact with my Professor in England, just had to cool the communication during the last few weeks leading up to the wedding.Yes, this fungus does kill mites. And truly, it is a mixed bag. As horrible as the mites are, and they are truly truly a nightmare, the fungus is just as bad if not worse. However, the fungus does kill off the mites. How? I don't really know. Where it comes from? I don't know that either. But I am trying to research and bend my mind around the problem. I know I have had mites for a very long time. At least a year or more. But never really knew it as they focused on my poor canaries. I never understood why my birds were always so sickly. Well the doggone things (mites) hide during the day so I never saw them. But I did get bit and was scratching all the time. And me, my son and my dog were always sick. Never figured it out. Never put all those puzzle pieces together. But then when the mites got so bad that I saw them on a baby chick...well SNAP!!! That was the problem. So, got rid of the birds and boy oh boy did they fall upon me in droves. But you all know that I tried everything I could. Yes I contemplated Vikane gas, and heating my house and fogging and spraying...well there was a lot I did and a lot I thought about doing. But it was not me that killed them off. It was the fungus. Unfortunately, the fungus was an opportunistic feeder, so turned to me and the dogs when its mite sandwich was all gone. Looking back now...my son over a year ago displayed all the signs of Bartonella. He is yet to be tested. I had and still have all the signs of Lyme disease and Bart. Still can barely walk on my left foot. My dog also had all the signs and symptoms. She too could barely walk, always limping for the last year and a half. But 30 days of antibiotics and she has not limped since. My son's natural immune system seems to be helping him and well, I am on the road to recovery. It is good to look back and evaluate how you got here. Everyone who is dealing with this will look back on this as well...I promise you. It does not last forever. Now, I am not suggesting that everyone go out and get some fungus as their first line of defense. But, it does work. I will try and post some articles and links about it.And for those of you who can not see the mite, but sees black spots and feels itchy and feels like they are just breathing in something that irritates the throat and the nose...well it just could be fungus. And my plant sprayer loaded down with Lysol Complete Clean (diluted) does the job. Everytime something is left outside and it gets wet, that doggone fungus comes right back and my dogs start to scratch...and I just blast it with my fully loaded plant sprayer. I hope everyone gets through their own mitemare as quickly as they can with whatever works for them. If you find something that works, stick with it. You might have to change it up sometimes and go back and forth between a couple of different things...but don't give up....good luck with the swelling. Be very careful of that. Especially if the swelling is in the legs but stops at the feet. That could be lymphedema. And that is a very bad condition. I know, I used to have it.Hang in there everyone, Terry>> It is good to hear from you mitesbegone. Congratulations on your daughter's marriage and soon to become a grandma! That is such a wonderful life affirming occurrence! I love being a grandma. > > > Everyone on this site goes through so many life changes as a result of this experience... some of the experiences are years in the making. It has been 4 years since we first our first experience w/ birdmites. Much has occurred in 4 years. I was glad to know that you had gone to a LLMD but sad to hear that you do have Lyme Disease out of this experience. So many of us do end up with it, or some of us had LD pre-existing. The experience of "mites" did get better for me when I started treating with antibiotics and antifungals. > > > The info you provided on the fungus killing mites is interesting. Do you have a scientific source for that? Not necessary if you can't find it, just curious mostly. I had gone on Itraconazole a few months back for fungal issues and my liver did not like it one bit; I had been on diflucan before that with no problems with the liver or increased enzyme activity. I went off the Itraconazole to get the liver enzymes back to normal. They are now back to normal. However, secondarily my ankles and feet started to swell and I'm dealing with that now. Never had that before. My father in law had that - and he had cirrhosis, so it does scare me a bit, plus I know you can get swelling like that from heart failure and/or kidney failure. I'm in the process of trying to go onto a low fat diet which I've just started, not following a regular diet, just following certain guidelines. I do have diabetes and a low fat diet is recommended (which I've ignored until now). > > > During the time you were gone my daughter in Germany was back in the hospital with gallstones... a most painful thing. She had her gallbladder out 3 - 1/2 years ago, but you can still get stones in a duct or even in the liver which cause inflammation. We both no longer have our gallbladders. It is recommended to go on a low fat diet for this too, so when the family comes to visit in July-August we'll be eating low fat! > > > So far we're having a good summer despite a lot of life changes, ups and downs. I'm still getting the same weird sensations on feet in very mild form, despite my medications, so at this point I just do not know - and they mostly come at late afternoon to evening. We're all in some kind of process... I think it is all internal for me. > > > So good to hear from you mitesbegone! Please post when you have time. > > > > > > > > My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > Stay strong! Terry>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hi Bible They shall be abundantly satisfied with the fatness of thy house; and thou shalt make them drink of the river of thy pleasures. 9 For with thee [is] the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light. Psalm 36: 5-9 Everyting will pick up & be better the lysol was lysol multi suface claner complete clean contains benz . .. Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent contains 77% Sodium carbonate the same ingredient as Mold Control made by concronium sold at Home Depot at for $20.00 per gallon . Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent kills mold way better than bleach , though bleach is good for a knock down in the beginning phase of claning , then rinse & use 1 cup Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent & 1 gallon of hot water , A & h leaves a residue that keeps on killing . I use to wash my ice cooler I take to work w/ bleach 2 days later it was moldy. & smelly So I tried Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gallon on the cooler for 20 mins & it kept the moldy smell gone for a week at least. & there is no horrible bleach fumes. God bless you , Bill Bible They shall be abundantly satisfied with the fatness of thy house; and thou shalt make them drink of the river of thy pleasures. 9 For with thee [is] the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light. Psalm 36: 5-9 ------------------------------ On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 1:17 PM EDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thanks for all your wisdom here Terry. I had never heard of Lymphedema. I wonder what causes it and how do you get rid of it? I suspected it might be a lymph build up since I've been on lots of meds with lots of die off. Also, this fungus you are mentioning really interests me, so when you have a source I'm looking forward to reading and more reading. > > >I'm going to have to get the Lysol again and look for the correct one, because Lysol All Purpose Cleaner is not the right one. Please give me the correct name of the Lysol anyone... I've been in slow mode lately, slow head, slow body, etc. Prone to forget. > > >Are you and your son doing okay now Terry? What is wrong with the left foot? Do you know? Thank God your son's immune system has kicked in. > > >One thing that did change for me over a couple of years ... I don't have that strange itching I used to get periodically. Seems gone which is good. > > > > > > Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > >Hi , thanks for your congrats. Whew, never thought I would survive the wedding. How ironic huh? I can survive bird mites and fungus and then not survive a wedding. But the two are so very far apart aren't they... > >I do have a scientific source on the fungus, in fact, I am going to be chasing down several sources. I have not lost contact with my Professor in England, just had to cool the communication during the last few weeks leading up to the wedding. > >Yes, this fungus does kill mites. And truly, it is a mixed bag. As horrible as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I used lysol complete its yellow they have orange too. I had good results with the small brown bottle too (hospital kind) but the smell is overwelming > > > > It is good to hear from you mitesbegone. Congratulations on your daughter's marriage and soon to become a grandma! That is such a wonderful life affirming occurrence! I love being a grandma. > > > > > > Everyone on this site goes through so many life changes as a result of this experience... some of the experiences are years in the making. It has been 4 years since we first our first experience w/ birdmites. Much has occurred in 4 years. I was glad to know that you had gone to a LLMD but sad to hear that you do have Lyme Disease out of this experience. So many of us do end up with it, or some of us had LD pre-existing. The experience of " mites " did get better for me when I started treating with antibiotics and antifungals. > > > > > > The info you provided on the fungus killing mites is interesting. Do you have a scientific source for that? Not necessary if you can't find it, just curious mostly. I had gone on Itraconazole a few months back for fungal issues and my liver did not like it one bit; I had been on diflucan before that with no problems with the liver or increased enzyme activity. I went off the Itraconazole to get the liver enzymes back to normal. They are now back to normal. However, secondarily my ankles and feet started to swell and I'm dealing with that now. Never had that before. My father in law had that - and he had cirrhosis, so it does scare me a bit, plus I know you can get swelling like that from heart failure and/or kidney failure. I'm in the process of trying to go onto a low fat diet which I've just started, not following a regular diet, just following certain guidelines. I do have diabetes and a low fat diet is recommended (which I've ignored until now). > > > > > > During the time you were gone my daughter in Germany was back in the hospital with gallstones... a most painful thing. She had her gallbladder out 3 - 1/2 years ago, but you can still get stones in a duct or even in the liver which cause inflammation. We both no longer have our gallbladders. It is recommended to go on a low fat diet for this too, so when the family comes to visit in July-August we'll be eating low fat! > > > > > > So far we're having a good summer despite a lot of life changes, ups and downs. I'm still getting the same weird sensations on feet in very mild form, despite my medications, so at this point I just do not know - and they mostly come at late afternoon to evening. We're all in some kind of process... I think it is all internal for me. > > > > > > So good to hear from you mitesbegone! Please post when you have time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > > > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hi Aggi, I can't tell what I have posted and responded to and what I haven't. But I miss you!! Love, love love this group! You guys saved me...truly. I was ready to throw in the towel, even though I might have washed it in hot water, with ammonia and borax and dried it for hours!! I can tell you that as confusing as it seems, it is the fungus that comes last. Mites are parasites as we all know. Bird parasites and can feed off of humans. But they are not the only parasites in the world. This fungus appears to kill mites. This is a copy of one reply from Professor Sparagano: Dear Terry ..... An entomopathogenic fungus could explain why the mites disappear. Fungi would be very reliable of the environmental conditions and some colleagues in Denmark (Dr Ole Kilpinen) got limited results when he sprayed conidia of fungi on poultry huts but it was due to the fungi not multiply due to adverse environmental conditions which is maybe not the case in your house. Best wishes This entomopathogenic fungus would be able to live in most of our houses quite well, unlike the cold it would encounter in most places in Denmark. When Dr. Sparagano housed a bag of red bird mites, he noticed after some days, a fungus forming on the outside of the bag. Mites, which were dying inside the bag (natural causes??), suddenly started dying in greater numbers and much more quickly. He was able to deduce therefore, that the fungus arrived after the mites and then preyed upon them. Eventually, all the mites were dead. Unfortunately as Dr. Sparagano studies the red bird mite and not fungus, he did not retain any samples. I have been in touch with several people locally, including the President of the mushroom and fungus society. She has introduced me to several people who might be interested in investigating this. I am hoping to pursue this further as soon as I can catch my breath, put my home back together and start feeling better. But I have not given up. The curious thing is that the fungus, without mite presence, has not given up and is still trying to establish itself here in my house. I am not sure why this is. But, I think I prefer the fungus over the mites, most definitely. I will try and keep everyone posted. Terry > > Hello Terry-Sweetheart ! >  > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post ! > I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here, > but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ? > It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-) >  > Take care my friend > Aggi >  > > > ________________________________ > Von: mitesbegone <no_reply > > An: bird mites > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 > Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > Stay strong! Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hi Sally, I thought at first it could be C Gatti, but apparently it is not. It is an entomopathogenic fungus. These fungi usually attach to the external body surface of insects in the form of microscopic spores. Under permissive conditions of temperature and (usually high) moisture, these spores germinate, grow and colonize the insect's cuticle; eventually they bore through it and reach the insects' body cavity. Then, the fungal cells proliferate in the host body cavity. After some time the insect is usually killed (sometimes by fungal toxins) and new spores are formed in/on the insect if environmental conditions are again permissive; usually high humidity is required for sporulation. I am not sure of how high the humidity needs to be, but it is not surprising to me that living in the state of Washington appeals to this fungus. My concern is that entomopathogenic fungi are now being investigated and spread as Biopesticides. These nematodes are classed as microbial pesticides and are being thought of as " safe " alternatives to chemical pesticides. These are then being grown in labs and released into the environment without proper bio-controls. This fungus, instead of having a short life cycle, appears to be proliferating, especially in the wetter, more humid climates. And while they may be successful at killing insects, including spiders, their ability to infest humans and mammals is being overlooked. This fungus is causing misery to people who have already had to suffer the effects of a bird mite infestation and now must suffer through a fungus attack. I found an interesting picture of this fungus...and for all those who have suffered with Morgs...well, this might make you stop and think. Hope it doesn't bother anyone too much. http://www.flickr.com/groups/entomopathic/ Terry > > Terry, >    Could it be this fungus? > > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US > 0Email > Marci Stone > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. > " This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing, " said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported. > > > ________________________________ > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > > bird mites > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > Stay strong! Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Well thanks . Glad to post what I find out. Not sure how wise I am though LOL. Lymphedema can be caused by a number of things, but it can be quite dangerous as it will actually cause the skin to degrade. There are two types of Lymphedema, and secondary. Primary Lymphedema is the disease itself and is basically a breakdown in the function of your lymphatics. For whatever reason, your lymphatics cease to work optimally. Fluid can then build up in your legs, your arms, stomach etc. There are hubs in our bodies where the lymphatics push out toxins. If the lymphatics are not pushing out the toxins fast enough, the toxins build up in the adipose layer and swelling occurs. Sometimes, as with chemo treatment, the lymphatics take a beating as the chemo is creating more toxins then our bodies can handle. This causes the lymphatics to malfunction and deteriorate. This is secondary lymphedema, also called lipoi-lymphedema. Lymphedema, primary or secondary, is extremely dangerous and really requires quick attention. It is not simply swelling, but swelling with a pitting quality. If you can push in the swollen area with a finger and it is slow to fill, then you are probably a good candidate for lymphedema. Hope that helps some. As for me, the foot pain in my left foot, the heel, is a classic symptom of Bartonella. I am hoping that once I start on abx, the pain will go away just as it did in my dog. My son is still suffering with extreme light sensitivity and has to wear dark glasses even in darkened rooms. He evens wears them at the movie theater. Course, he thinks they make him look cool. LOL But it does seem to be slowly resolving. On the road to recovery here...slowly but surely. And I do hope we are becoming stronger because of the challenge...doggone it! Something good has to come of this right? Terry > > > > It is good to hear from you mitesbegone. Congratulations on your daughter's marriage and soon to become a grandma! That is such a wonderful life affirming occurrence! I love being a grandma. > > > > > > Everyone on this site goes through so many life changes as a result of this experience... some of the experiences are years in the making. It has been 4 years since we first our first experience w/ birdmites. Much has occurred in 4 years. I was glad to know that you had gone to a LLMD but sad to hear that you do have Lyme Disease out of this experience. So many of us do end up with it, or some of us had LD pre-existing. The experience of " mites " did get better for me when I started treating with antibiotics and antifungals. > > > > > > The info you provided on the fungus killing mites is interesting. Do you have a scientific source for that? Not necessary if you can't find it, just curious mostly. I had gone on Itraconazole a few months back for fungal issues and my liver did not like it one bit; I had been on diflucan before that with no problems with the liver or increased enzyme activity. I went off the Itraconazole to get the liver enzymes back to normal. They are now back to normal. However, secondarily my ankles and feet started to swell and I'm dealing with that now. Never had that before. My father in law had that - and he had cirrhosis, so it does scare me a bit, plus I know you can get swelling like that from heart failure and/or kidney failure. I'm in the process of trying to go onto a low fat diet which I've just started, not following a regular diet, just following certain guidelines. I do have diabetes and a low fat diet is recommended (which I've ignored until now). > > > > > > During the time you were gone my daughter in Germany was back in the hospital with gallstones... a most painful thing. She had her gallbladder out 3 - 1/2 years ago, but you can still get stones in a duct or even in the liver which cause inflammation. We both no longer have our gallbladders. It is recommended to go on a low fat diet for this too, so when the family comes to visit in July-August we'll be eating low fat! > > > > > > So far we're having a good summer despite a lot of life changes, ups and downs. I'm still getting the same weird sensations on feet in very mild form, despite my medications, so at this point I just do not know - and they mostly come at late afternoon to evening. We're all in some kind of process... I think it is all internal for me. > > > > > > So good to hear from you mitesbegone! Please post when you have time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > > > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Terry, Terry, Terry! Yes! That explains so much. The bugs flying around the kitchen wrapped in fungus. The "fuz" bugs coming off the clothes. BINGO!Well, samento kills it. Yeah! From: mitesbegone <no_reply > bird mites Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 5:45 AM Subject: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi Sally, I thought at first it could be C Gatti, but apparently it is not. It is an entomopathogenic fungus. These fungi usually attach to the external body surface of insects in the form of microscopic spores. Under permissive conditions of temperature and (usually high) moisture, these spores germinate, grow and colonize the insect's cuticle; eventually they bore through it and reach the insects' body cavity. Then, the fungal cells proliferate in the host body cavity. After some time the insect is usually killed (sometimes by fungal toxins) and new spores are formed in/on the insect if environmental conditions are again permissive; usually high humidity is required for sporulation. I am not sure of how high the humidity needs to be, but it is not surprising to me that living in the state of Washington appeals to this fungus. My concern is that entomopathogenic fungi are now being investigated and spread as Biopesticides. These nematodes are classed as microbial pesticides and are being thought of as "safe" alternatives to chemical pesticides. These are then being grown in labs and released into the environment without proper bio-controls. This fungus, instead of having a short life cycle, appears to be proliferating, especially in the wetter, more humid climates. And while they may be successful at killing insects, including spiders, their ability to infest humans and mammals is being overlooked. This fungus is causing misery to people who have already had to suffer the effects of a bird mite infestation and now must suffer through a fungus attack. I found an interesting picture of this fungus...and for all those who have suffered with Morgs...well, this might make you stop and think. Hope it doesn't bother anyone too much. http://www.flickr.com/groups/entomopathic/ Terry > > Terry, > Could it be this fungus? > > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US > 0Email > Marci Stone > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. > "This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing," said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported. > > > ________________________________ > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > > bird mites > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to start > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > Stay strong! Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 WE HAVE MISSED YOU TOO DARLING ! The guys on this forum have also saved my life Terry, and I will be thankful for the hopefully very healthy rest of it . Nononoone can even try to imagine how this affliction affects life in such a terrible way that you really do want to throw the towel (love your sense of humor about your very special one, lol). Been there, been straight to hell and back out ! Sulfur + Lysol + ABX + Antifungal has been the simple formula in getting rid of the bird mites. Took me a while to understand, that the problem was mainly inside of my body. Goes over your head, doesn't it ? Aandraya was the one who kept praying to us about the chronic infections and in the end i did listen. Still feel like kissing her 24/7 ;-) So glad you're doing better girl! This whole fungus subject is really scary. Think they know nothing about it, haven't even scratched the surface. Please do keep us posted. You are doing a great job with your research. Hugs and more hugs, Aggi P.S.: I almost forgot to mention that I am 100% better, no more biting, no more crawling, no discomfort. All that's left is the strange feeling of the "living hair" as calls it, which has also got better within the past weeks. Now, who's the lucky girl ? ;-))) Von: mitesbegone <no_reply >An: bird mites Gesendet: 11:01 Mittwoch, 4.Juli 2012Betreff: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi Aggi, I can't tell what I have posted and responded to and what I haven't. But I miss you!!Love, love love this group! You guys saved me...truly. I was ready to throw in the towel, even though I might have washed it in hot water, with ammonia and borax and dried it for hours!! I can tell you that as confusing as it seems, it is the fungus that comes last. Mites are parasites as we all know. Bird parasites and can feed off of humans. But they are not the only parasites in the world. This fungus appears to kill mites. This is a copy of one reply from Professor Sparagano:Dear Terry.... An entomopathogenic fungus could explain why the mites disappear. Fungi would be very reliable of the environmental conditions and some colleagues in Denmark (Dr Ole Kilpinen) got limited results when he sprayed conidia of fungi on poultry huts but it was due to the fungi not multiply due to adverse environmental conditions which is maybe not the case in your house.Best wishesThis entomopathogenic fungus would be able to live in most of our houses quite well, unlike the cold it would encounter in most places in Denmark. When Dr. Sparagano housed a bag of red bird mites, he noticed after some days, a fungus forming on the outside of the bag. Mites, which were dying inside the bag (natural causes??), suddenly started dying in greater numbers and much more quickly. He was able to deduce therefore, that the fungus arrived after the mites and then preyed upon them. Eventually, all the mites were dead. Unfortunately as Dr. Sparagano studies the red bird mite and not fungus, he did not retain any samples. I have been in touch with several people locally, including the President of the mushroom and fungus society. She has introduced me to several people who might be interested in investigating this. I am hoping to pursue this further as soon as I can catch my breath, put my home back together and start feeling better. But I have not given up. The curious thing is that the fungus, without mite presence, has not given up and is still trying to establish itself here in my house. I am not sure why this is. But, I think I prefer the fungus over the mites, most definitely. I will try and keep everyone posted.Terry>> Hello Terry-Sweetheart !>  > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post !> I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here,> but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ?> It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-)>  > Take care my friend> Aggi >  > > > ________________________________> Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40>> An: mailto:bird mites%40 > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012> Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you> > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal> journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start> my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not> been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it> remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some> clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We> struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.> > Stay strong! Terry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Those pictures are very graphic - thanks for posting Terry. You can really see what is going on. IF I had this fungus it certainly did not kill the spiders in my house! I'd rather have had the spiders than this fungus. I think you are right about transferring this fungus to other living creatures, those stupid scientists. Why would they not think that this fungus could infect beneficial insects, animals and human beings?From: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:45:09 AMSubject: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with youHi Sally, I thought at first it could be C Gatti, but apparently it is not. It is an entomopathogenic fungus. These fungi usually attach to the external body surface of insects in the form of microscopic spores. Under permissive conditions of temperature and (usually high) moisture, these spores germinate, grow and colonize the insect's cuticle; eventually they bore through it and reach the insects' body cavity. Then, the fungal cells proliferate in the host body cavity. After some time the insect is usually killed (sometimes by fungal toxins) and new spores are formed in/on the insect if environmental conditions are again permissive; usually high humidity is required for sporulation. I am not sure of how high the humidity needs to be, but it is not surprising to me that living in the state of Washington appeals to this fungus. My concern is that entomopathogenic fungi are now being investigated and spread as Biopesticides. These nematodes are classed as microbial pesticides and are being thought of as "safe" alternatives to chemical pesticides. These are then being grown in labs and released into the environment without proper bio-controls. This fungus, instead of having a short life cycle, appears to be proliferating, especially in the wetter, more humid climates. And while they may be successful at killing insects, including spiders, their ability to infest humans and mammals is being overlooked. This fungus is causing misery to people who have already had to suffer the effects of a bird mite infestation and now must suffer through a fungus attack. I found an interesting picture of this fungus...and for all those who have suffered with Morgs...well, this might make you stop and think. Hope it doesn't bother anyone too much.http://www.flickr.com/groups/entomopathic/Terry--- In bird mites , Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>> Terry,>    Could it be this fungus?> > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US> 0Email> Marci Stone> Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe> Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%.> In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC.> "This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing," said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center.> Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,� Business Week reported.> > > ________________________________> From: mitesbegone <no_reply >> bird mites > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM> Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you> > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal> journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start> my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not> been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it> remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some> clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We> struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.> > Stay strong! Terry>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Hi, Aggi, I am glad you are better! Sally ( exsarah) From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you WE HAVE MISSED YOU TOO DARLING ! The guys on this forum have also saved my life Terry, and I will be thankful for the hopefully very healthy rest of it . Nononoone can even try to imagine how this affliction affects life in such a terrible way that you really do want to throw the towel (love your sense of humor about your very special one, lol). Been there, been straight to hell and back out ! Sulfur + Lysol + ABX + Antifungal has been the simple formula in getting rid of the bird mites. Took me a while to understand, that the problem was mainly inside of my body. Goes over your head, doesn't it ? Aandraya was the one who kept praying to us about the chronic infections and in the end i did listen. Still feel like kissing her 24/7 ;-) So glad you're doing better girl! This whole fungus subject is really scary. Think they know nothing about it, haven't even scratched the surface. Please do keep us posted. You are doing a great job with your research. Hugs and more hugs, Aggi P.S.: I almost forgot to mention that I am 100% better, no more biting, no more crawling, no discomfort. All that's left is the strange feeling of the "living hair" as calls it, which has also got better within the past weeks. Now, who's the lucky girl ? ;-))) Von: mitesbegone <no_reply >An: bird mites Gesendet: 11:01 Mittwoch, 4.Juli 2012Betreff: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi Aggi, I can't tell what I have posted and responded to and what I haven't. But I miss you!!Love, love love this group! You guys saved me...truly. I was ready to throw in the towel, even though I might have washed it in hot water, with ammonia and borax and dried it for hours!! I can tell you that as confusing as it seems, it is the fungus that comes last. Mites are parasites as we all know. Bird parasites and can feed off of humans. But they are not the only parasites in the world. This fungus appears to kill mites. This is a copy of one reply from Professor Sparagano:Dear Terry.... An entomopathogenic fungus could explain why the mites disappear. Fungi would be very reliable of the environmental conditions and some colleagues in Denmark (Dr Ole Kilpinen) got limited results when he sprayed conidia of fungi on poultry huts but it was due to the fungi not multiply due to adverse environmental conditions which is maybe not the case in your house.Best wishesThis entomopathogenic fungus would be able to live in most of our houses quite well, unlike the cold it would encounter in most places in Denmark. When Dr. Sparagano housed a bag of red bird mites, he noticed after some days, a fungus forming on the outside of the bag. Mites, which were dying inside the bag (natural causes??), suddenly started dying in greater numbers and much more quickly. He was able to deduce therefore, that the fungus arrived after the mites and then preyed upon them. Eventually, all the mites were dead. Unfortunately as Dr. Sparagano studies the red bird mite and not fungus, he did not retain any samples. I have been in touch with several people locally, including the President of the mushroom and fungus society. She has introduced me to several people who might be interested in investigating this. I am hoping to pursue this further as soon as I can catch my breath, put my home back together and start feeling better. But I have not given up. The curious thing is that the fungus, without mite presence, has not given up and is still trying to establish itself here in my house. I am not sure why this is. But, I think I prefer the fungus over the mites, most definitely. I will try and keep everyone posted.Terry>> Hello Terry-Sweetheart !>  > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post !> I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here,> but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ?> It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-)>  > Take care my friend> Aggi >  > > > ________________________________> Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40>> An: mailto:bird mites%40 > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012> Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you> > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal> journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start> my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not> been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it> remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some> clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We> struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.> > Stay strong! Terry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Thank you Sally ! I know who you are :-) I am still overwhelmed by gratefulness and humbleness that I am cured ! Never thought this could happen... It is only the hair issue that is left now. Do you think the olive leaf mud would work on my hair and scalp ? Are you feeling better now after moving and quitting the horror job ? I so much hope so ! Big hug for my friend x x Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 19:29 Donnerstag, 5.Juli 2012Betreff: Re: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi, Aggi, I am glad you are better! Sally ( exsarah) From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you WE HAVE MISSED YOU TOO DARLING ! The guys on this forum have also saved my life Terry, and I will be thankful for the hopefully very healthy rest of it . Nononoone can even try to imagine how this affliction affects life in such a terrible way that you really do want to throw the towel (love your sense of humor about your very special one, lol). Been there, been straight to hell and back out ! Sulfur + Lysol + ABX + Antifungal has been the simple formula in getting rid of the bird mites. Took me a while to understand, that the problem was mainly inside of my body. Goes over your head, doesn't it ? Aandraya was the one who kept praying to us about the chronic infections and in the end i did listen. Still feel like kissing her 24/7 ;-) So glad you're doing better girl! This whole fungus subject is really scary. Think they know nothing about it, haven't even scratched the surface. Please do keep us posted. You are doing a great job with your research. Hugs and more hugs, Aggi P.S.: I almost forgot to mention that I am 100% better, no more biting, no more crawling, no discomfort. All that's left is the strange feeling of the "living hair" as calls it, which has also got better within the past weeks. Now, who's the lucky girl ? ;-))) Von: mitesbegone <no_reply >An: bird mites Gesendet: 11:01 Mittwoch, 4.Juli 2012Betreff: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi Aggi, I can't tell what I have posted and responded to and what I haven't. But I miss you!!Love, love love this group! You guys saved me...truly. I was ready to throw in the towel, even though I might have washed it in hot water, with ammonia and borax and dried it for hours!! I can tell you that as confusing as it seems, it is the fungus that comes last. Mites are parasites as we all know. Bird parasites and can feed off of humans. But they are not the only parasites in the world. This fungus appears to kill mites. This is a copy of one reply from Professor Sparagano:Dear Terry.... An entomopathogenic fungus could explain why the mites disappear. Fungi would be very reliable of the environmental conditions and some colleagues in Denmark (Dr Ole Kilpinen) got limited results when he sprayed conidia of fungi on poultry huts but it was due to the fungi not multiply due to adverse environmental conditions which is maybe not the case in your house.Best wishesThis entomopathogenic fungus would be able to live in most of our houses quite well, unlike the cold it would encounter in most places in Denmark. When Dr. Sparagano housed a bag of red bird mites, he noticed after some days, a fungus forming on the outside of the bag. Mites, which were dying inside the bag (natural causes??), suddenly started dying in greater numbers and much more quickly. He was able to deduce therefore, that the fungus arrived after the mites and then preyed upon them. Eventually, all the mites were dead. Unfortunately as Dr. Sparagano studies the red bird mite and not fungus, he did not retain any samples. I have been in touch with several people locally, including the President of the mushroom and fungus society. She has introduced me to several people who might be interested in investigating this. I am hoping to pursue this further as soon as I can catch my breath, put my home back together and start feeling better. But I have not given up. The curious thing is that the fungus, without mite presence, has not given up and is still trying to establish itself here in my house. I am not sure why this is. But, I think I prefer the fungus over the mites, most definitely. I will try and keep everyone posted.Terry>> Hello Terry-Sweetheart !>  > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post !> I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here,> but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ?> It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-)>  > Take care my friend> Aggi >  > > > ________________________________> Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40>> An: mailto:bird mites%40 > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012> Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you> > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal> journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start> my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not> been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it> remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some> clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We> struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.> > Stay strong! Terry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Oh my goodness, fuz bugs!! Yuk. Yes, I have seen some pretty strange things myself. Definitely things have a Sci-Fi twist to them. I am going to have to check with my LLMD regarding Samento. I am already taking so many things that I don't want to gum up the works, but I will ask him. I know that Samento is an effective herb in the treatment of Lyme, so it makes sense that it would help with the fungi as well, although I do not know what properties it has that make it effective. But I am sure glad it is helping you out. Way to hang tough!! Terry > > > > Terry, > >    Could it be this fungus? > > > > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US > > 0Email > > Marci Stone > > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe > > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. > > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. > > " This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing, " said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. > > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > > > bird mites > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM > > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > >  > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to > start > > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it > > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. > We > > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Aggi, YOU are the lucky girl! I am so very very happy that you are at 100%. I think stories of victories are extremely important to read especially for those who are just entering into this nightmare. And as you are one beautiful case of a person who has successfully re-entered the world of " normal " ...you bring with you light and hope. Bless you sweetheart. The Lysol + Antifungal is still where I am at. I have not been able to get my blood test done, drat it all. I can only do it on Mon-Wed before 11 a.m. and something has always come up on those days. I had to get behind my dryer yesterday to fix the vent hose and well once there, I had to scrub the floor and the walls and then did the same for my washer. As a result, I have been scratching and itching and have had to take two showers. This morning I woke with a sore throat and I have seen evidence of the fungus on me and in me. I am determined to get my blood tests done next week because my LLMD won't start me on ABX until he gets the lab results. It is not that he does not believe I have Lyme and Bart, but he said he needs the documentation in his files in order to start me on a treatment program. He says that even with IGenX, there is a 15% false negative probability and he does not believe there is a good lab test yet for Bart..well, one that is worth paying money for. He tells me that there are many more strains of Bart then is being tested for. I am hoping that once I do start on the ABX the fungus will not find me such an easy target. But because of this and the fact that I have not been able to adequately clean due to all the hustle and bustle of the wedding, today I shall be rolling up my sleeves and attacking my house with as much vigor as I can muster....LOL, and while my heart is willing, the body .... not so much. But I will do what I can. Only vigilance towards cleanliness and routine power spraying with my Lysol mixture keeps this fungus at bay. I do believe the state of Washington with its perpetual rain really encourages this fungus to grow. Aggi, congrats to you! You deserve to have found your place of contentment free from this terrible affliction. And a great big SHOUT OUT to Aandraya, who, like you Aggi, spoke to me volumes of words about Lyme and co-infections, getting tested and treated as quickly as possible, battling the internal war as hard as the external war. She gave me a rock (which was herself) to lean on. Her wise council ultimately allowed me to retain my grip on sanity as I traversed my own mitemare. You rock AA! Stay healthy, Terry > > > > Hello Terry-Sweetheart ! > >  > > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post ! > > I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here, > > but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ? > > It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-) > >  > > Take care my friend > > Aggi > >  > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40> > > An: mailto:bird mites%40 > > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 > > Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > >  > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This > was my personal > > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little > dog.  I was able to start > > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually > kills mites. I have not > > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this > confirmed, thus it > > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back > home, I went out and tried to take some > > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were > going to have good weather. We > > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 It is all being done under the tag word " organic " . I believe theirs is an incorrect assumption that says...if it is organic, it must be safe. I do not equate organic to safe. After continuing to battle this " organic " fungus on a daily basis, I would love nothing more than to put a tiger in with one of these " scientists " and yell out " don't worry, a tiger is organic, ergo, he is safe! " . Then they can get chomped on as much as I have been. LOL Arrrgh..that is a bit mean spirited I guess. (but I still mean it) Terry > > > > Terry, > >    Could it be this fungus? > > > > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US > > 0Email > > Marci Stone > > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe > > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. > > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. > > " This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing, " said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. > > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include  " a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,� Business Week reported. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > > > bird mites > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM > > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > >  > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start > > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it > > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 My sentiments too. lolFrom: "mitesbegone" <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:57:12 AMSubject: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with youIt is all being done under the tag word "organic". I believe theirs is an incorrect assumption that says...if it is organic, it must be safe.I do not equate organic to safe. After continuing to battle this "organic" fungus on a daily basis, I would love nothing more than to put a tiger in with one of these "scientists" and yell out "don't worry, a tiger is organic, ergo, he is safe!". Then they can get chomped on as much as I have been. LOL Arrrgh..that is a bit mean spirited I guess. (but I still mean it)Terry > > > > Terry, > >    Could it be this fungus? > > > > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US > > 0Email > > Marci Stone > > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe > > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. > > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. > > "This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing," said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. > > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include â€Å"a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,� Business Week reported. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > > > bird mites > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM > > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > >  > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start > > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it > > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Aggi,To remove it from the scalp, you must shave your hair. I'm thinking of going to the beauty shop and buying hair bits to cut and glue gun to a scarf for when I'm out. I find the grainy texture aof the Monteray olive leaf powder works better on the tough scalp. I haven't moved yet. I'm using this time to totally work on me and spend time with God. Neighbors must think I'm nuts. Never leaving, in the bath for long hours, and talking out loud to, as far as they know, no one. I call it "caving". Getting rest, too.Still haven't been able to cry. I bought a book I thought I'd never read as I find it disturbing. "A Boy Named It". I'm going to read it as I know it will make me cry. Cruelty to anyone or thing upsets me so. It also bothers me that I cannot reach back through time and save the young man from his horror. Haven't opened the package yet. I keep staring at it. What ever this is Aggi, I think I've had it for 15 or 20 years as I think back to the manifestation. Keep us up to date with your adventures. I love living them through you.Love,Sally From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Thank you Sally ! I know who you are :-) I am still overwhelmed by gratefulness and humbleness that I am cured ! Never thought this could happen... It is only the hair issue that is left now. Do you think the olive leaf mud would work on my hair and scalp ? Are you feeling better now after moving and quitting the horror job ? I so much hope so ! Big hug for my friend x x Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 19:29 Donnerstag, 5.Juli 2012Betreff: Re: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi, Aggi, I am glad you are better! Sally ( exsarah) From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you WE HAVE MISSED YOU TOO DARLING ! The guys on this forum have also saved my life Terry, and I will be thankful for the hopefully very healthy rest of it . Nononoone can even try to imagine how this affliction affects life in such a terrible way that you really do want to throw the towel (love your sense of humor about your very special one, lol). Been there, been straight to hell and back out ! Sulfur + Lysol + ABX + Antifungal has been the simple formula in getting rid of the bird mites. Took me a while to understand, that the problem was mainly inside of my body. Goes over your head, doesn't it ? Aandraya was the one who kept praying to us about the chronic infections and in the end i did listen. Still feel like kissing her 24/7 ;-) So glad you're doing better girl! This whole fungus subject is really scary. Think they know nothing about it, haven't even scratched the surface. Please do keep us posted. You are doing a great job with your research. Hugs and more hugs, Aggi P.S.: I almost forgot to mention that I am 100% better, no more biting, no more crawling, no discomfort. All that's left is the strange feeling of the "living hair" as calls it, which has also got better within the past weeks. Now, who's the lucky girl ? ;-))) Von: mitesbegone <no_reply >An: bird mites Gesendet: 11:01 Mittwoch, 4.Juli 2012Betreff: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Hi Aggi, I can't tell what I have posted and responded to and what I haven't. But I miss you!!Love, love love this group! You guys saved me...truly. I was ready to throw in the towel, even though I might have washed it in hot water, with ammonia and borax and dried it for hours!! I can tell you that as confusing as it seems, it is the fungus that comes last. Mites are parasites as we all know. Bird parasites and can feed off of humans. But they are not the only parasites in the world. This fungus appears to kill mites. This is a copy of one reply from Professor Sparagano:Dear Terry.... An entomopathogenic fungus could explain why the mites disappear. Fungi would be very reliable of the environmental conditions and some colleagues in Denmark (Dr Ole Kilpinen) got limited results when he sprayed conidia of fungi on poultry huts but it was due to the fungi not multiply due to adverse environmental conditions which is maybe not the case in your house.Best wishesThis entomopathogenic fungus would be able to live in most of our houses quite well, unlike the cold it would encounter in most places in Denmark. When Dr. Sparagano housed a bag of red bird mites, he noticed after some days, a fungus forming on the outside of the bag. Mites, which were dying inside the bag (natural causes??), suddenly started dying in greater numbers and much more quickly. He was able to deduce therefore, that the fungus arrived after the mites and then preyed upon them. Eventually, all the mites were dead. Unfortunately as Dr. Sparagano studies the red bird mite and not fungus, he did not retain any samples. I have been in touch with several people locally, including the President of the mushroom and fungus society. She has introduced me to several people who might be interested in investigating this. I am hoping to pursue this further as soon as I can catch my breath, put my home back together and start feeling better. But I have not given up. The curious thing is that the fungus, without mite presence, has not given up and is still trying to establish itself here in my house. I am not sure why this is. But, I think I prefer the fungus over the mites, most definitely. I will try and keep everyone posted.Terry>> Hello Terry-Sweetheart !>  > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post !> I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here,> but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ?> It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-)>  > Take care my friend> Aggi >  > > > ________________________________> Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40>> An: mailto:bird mites%40 > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012> Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you> > >  > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal> journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start> my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not> been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it> remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some> clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We> struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.> > Stay strong! Terry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Sally, I hope you are doing better. I know what you are going through, believe me. Sometimes I think I am crazy talking to my dog all the time. The other day I was out picking up some medication and just started talking to my dog who was with me. I remember observing some people giving me some very odd glances. But hey, I talk to who I think is listening. And of late, that has been my dog.oy I don't know if you ever got to reading the book you mentioned, but I remember reading a book called The Whiping Boy. It was terribly sad. I figure I have enough sad in my life so try for more upbeat stuff these days. Hope you are hanging in there...Terry > > > > Hello Terry-Sweetheart ! > >  > > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post ! > > I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here, > > but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ? > > > It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-) > >  > > Take care my friend > > Aggi > >  > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40> > > An: mailto:bird mites%40 > > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 > > Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > >  > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. > I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary > between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of > vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do > not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as > that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I > seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start > > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " > community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > > been able to really work on my theory to the > extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, > thus it > > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all > well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to > rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved > into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry > it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Thanks, Terry. I read the book. Made me realize I have emotions of "powerlessness" and "unsupported emotionally." I noted the young man freed himself when he finally broke down crying and handed it to God. I'm also inspired by this little boy from Britain's Got Talent, Ronan Parke. He has passion for what he is doing and is not afraid of his feelings. He sings with such feeling as if he is living each song. That's my goal, to live in my feelings 100% of the time. That's why I am talking out loud to God all the time. I'm looking for help recalibrating my psychi. Terry, I have found this stuff forms over itself again and again forming a ball or lump like structure in the body. So far, the any joint, back of the neck, and behind the eyes and ears are favorite hiding areas. Get these centers and the rest starts to collapse. I haven't coughed since, I guess April?, cause I think the samento/banderal/teasal is working. Big hug sweety,Sally From: mitesbegone <no_reply > bird mites Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:37 PM Subject: Re: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you Sally, I hope you are doing better. I know what you are going through, believe me. Sometimes I think I am crazy talking to my dog all the time. The other day I was out picking up some medication and just started talking to my dog who was with me. I remember observing some people giving me some very odd glances. But hey, I talk to who I think is listening. And of late, that has been my dog.oy I don't know if you ever got to reading the book you mentioned, but I remember reading a book called The Whiping Boy. It was terribly sad. I figure I have enough sad in my life so try for more upbeat stuff these days. Hope you are hanging in there...Terry > > > > Hello Terry-Sweetheart ! > >  > > I am so happy that you are well and thanks a million for this wonderful post ! > > I've been reading your fungus theory with great interest. I also believe that fungus plays a big role here, > > but what comes first ... the fungus, then the bug, or is it the other way around ? > > > It's a bit like the chicken and egg story :-) > >  > > Take care my friend > > Aggi > >  > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Von: mitesbegone <mailto:no_reply%40> > > An: mailto:bird mites%40 > > Gesendet: 13:03 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 > > Betreff: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > > > > > >  > > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. > I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > > > > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > > > > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary > between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > > > > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > > > > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of > vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > > > > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do > not know. > > > > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as > that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I > seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to start > > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > > > > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" > community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not > > been able to really work on my theory to the > extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, > thus it > > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > > > > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all > well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some > > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to > rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. We > > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved > into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > > > > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > > > > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry > it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > > > > Stay strong! Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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