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Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going to give me a shot in

my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about combination medication

(I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he says the damage is

done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I don't drive or much else

and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

Temple

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I hope the shot (cortisone, I assume) works, but I would still want to know

exactly what the problem is with your shoulder. Especially since you have

such degeneration in your knees and hips already, I think having your

shoulder checked out would be a good idea.

The rest of what you said is fairly disturbing. What combination of meds

were you discussing? It's not as if you shouldn't be concerned about FUTURE

damage. Now, if your rheumatologist is confident that the Enbrel is holding

the destruction in check, that's a fine assumption as long as he is

monitoring the progression carefully and you seem to be stable. What sort of

x-rays or MRIs or scans of your bones have you had and when? What I really

want to know is from the time you were diagnosed with RA until you started

Enbrel and up through now what has been done to document your status (hands,

feet, knees, shoulders, hips)?

Please refresh my memory about the different pain meds you have tried and

why your rheumatologist is so opposed to prescribing them for you. That's

horrible. I know that, sadly, you haven't had any success so far in getting

any good pain relief. Does he believe that you should just suffer? If this

is so, you should consider seeing someone else. Or does he believe that the

replacements will take care of your pain and that you should be able to live

in great pain until then? This is making me angry! Your other doctors didn't

seem to be too helpful in the pain management department either. What about

a pain specialist?

Sorry.

Re: [ ] shoulder...

> Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going to give me a shot in

> my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about combination

medication

> (I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he says the damage is

> done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I don't drive or much

else

> and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

> Temple

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Don't mean to but into the conversation, but my Rhuemy does not

prescribe pain meds either. She refuses, she says that they are more

trouble than they are worth, that too many people get addicted. Said

there are lots of Rheumys out there who do, and that if my PCP wanted

to precribe them that was OK with her. I tend to agree with you

about the dependant, not addicted point of view. I have been a drug

addict, and I am now revovered. I have had to take pain meds at

times (got them from my PCP)and I had no desire to abuse them. I

wanted them to be there when I needed them. I don't know why these

doctors try to play God with our lives. It is scary sometimes. Just

wanted to vent, tee hee. I'm done now.

> ,

>

> I hope the shot (cortisone, I assume) works, but I would still want

to know

> exactly what the problem is with your shoulder. Especially since

you have

> such degeneration in your knees and hips already, I think having

your

> shoulder checked out would be a good idea.

>

> The rest of what you said is fairly disturbing. What combination of

meds

> were you discussing? It's not as if you shouldn't be concerned

about FUTURE

> damage. Now, if your rheumatologist is confident that the Enbrel is

holding

> the destruction in check, that's a fine assumption as long as he is

> monitoring the progression carefully and you seem to be stable.

What sort of

> x-rays or MRIs or scans of your bones have you had and when? What I

really

> want to know is from the time you were diagnosed with RA until you

started

> Enbrel and up through now what has been done to document your

status (hands,

> feet, knees, shoulders, hips)?

>

> Please refresh my memory about the different pain meds you have

tried and

> why your rheumatologist is so opposed to prescribing them for you.

That's

> horrible. I know that, sadly, you haven't had any success so far in

getting

> any good pain relief. Does he believe that you should just suffer?

If this

> is so, you should consider seeing someone else. Or does he believe

that the

> replacements will take care of your pain and that you should be

able to live

> in great pain until then? This is making me angry! Your other

doctors didn't

> seem to be too helpful in the pain management department either.

What about

> a pain specialist?

>

> Sorry.

>

>

>

>

> Re: [ ] shoulder...

>

>

> > Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going to give me

a shot in

> > my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about combination

> medication

> > (I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he says the

damage is

> > done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I don't drive

or much

> else

> > and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

> > Temple

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Went to the doctor today and had the shot-keeping my fingers crossed. Yes

he wants an X-ray but is away for the next 2 weeks.

My arthritis (pain that is)started 2 1/2 years ago. I have used NSAI,

methatrexate, arava, A-sulfadine, enbrel, remicade and now enbrel again.

All in sequence with varying degrees of relief. Monitoring has been x-rays

a few times.

Pain meds that I have used are- darvoset, Ultram and oxycodone (don't know

how may mgs. they were but even taking 3 barely touched it)

I know, I know, I need a new doctor! I will talk with the orthopedic

surgeon at Mass General.

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

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>

>

> > Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going to give me a shot

in

> > my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about combination

> medication

> > (I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he says the damage is

> > done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I don't drive or much

> else

> > and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

> > Temple

>

>

>

>

>

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I hope the injection in your shoulder gives you some relief.

Did your doctor say why he doesn't want to add something to

the Enbrel? Yes the damage is done, but you want to prevent

FURTHER damage. I don't get your doctor's reasoning.

a

Re: [ ] shoulder...

Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going to

give me a shot in

my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about

combination medication

(I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he says

the damage is

done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I don't

drive or much else

and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

dat2352@...

http:www.homestead.com/kuddlekrittersfarm/index.html

http://www.homestead.com/KuddleKrittersDairyGoats/index.html

http://www.homestead.com/KuddleKraft/index.html

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a,

Isn't the enbrel suppose to be stopping further damage? Ha! I don't

believe it, I have been on either enbrel or remicade for the last year! The

shoulder is feeling no better. I was hoping for a miracle and didn't get

it. The rheumy will give no pain meds and neither will the surgeon. My

knee is tipping in and hurting more each day.

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

dat2352@...

http:www.homestead.com/kuddlekrittersfarm/index.html

http://www.homestead.com/KuddleKrittersDairyGoats/index.html

http://www.homestead.com/KuddleKraft/index.html

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That's what I thought too, but in the 2 1/2 years I've been

on it, the RA has progressed into both elbows, my shoulder

and my wrists. For me, Enbrel is more of an

anti-inflammatory rather than a DMARD. In that respect it

has been my miracle. The decrease in inflammation has

decreased my pain.

I am really appalled at your doctors. It is awful that your

bones have eroded to the point of needing a replacement, yet

they will give you no pain meds. That is cruel and inhumane

treatment as far as I'm concerned. Do they give you a

reason?

a

a,

Isn't the enbrel suppose to be stopping further damage?

Ha! I don't

believe it, I have been on either enbrel or remicade for

the last year! The

shoulder is feeling no better. I was hoping for a miracle

and didn't get

it. The rheumy will give no pain meds and neither will

the surgeon. My

knee is tipping in and hurting more each day.

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

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Dear :

How is your shoulder? I got a cortisone shot in my shoulder yesterday and it

is feeling a lot better. Is the emprel helping you? Why does your Dr.

refuse pain meds? Is the emprel supposed to do the work of a pain med? I

can't take emprel.

Better Days for you and all of us.

Sincerely, Colleti

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How do you find a pain management clinic? I can't seem to find one in

the yellow pages. Does anyone know?

> > > ,

> > >

> > > I hope the shot (cortisone, I assume) works, but I would

> still want

> > to know

> > > exactly what the problem is with your shoulder.

> Especially since

> > you have

> > > such degeneration in your knees and hips already, I

> think having

> > your

> > > shoulder checked out would be a good idea.

> > >

> > > The rest of what you said is fairly disturbing. What

> combination of

> > meds

> > > were you discussing? It's not as if you shouldn't be

> concerned

> > about FUTURE

> > > damage. Now, if your rheumatologist is confident that

> the Enbrel is

> > holding

> > > the destruction in check, that's a fine assumption as

> long as he is

> > > monitoring the progression carefully and you seem to be

> stable.

> > What sort of

> > > x-rays or MRIs or scans of your bones have you had and

> when? What I

> > really

> > > want to know is from the time you were diagnosed with RA

> until you

> > started

> > > Enbrel and up through now what has been done to document

> your

> > status (hands,

> > > feet, knees, shoulders, hips)?

> > >

> > > Please refresh my memory about the different pain meds

> you have

> > tried and

> > > why your rheumatologist is so opposed to prescribing

> them for you.

> > That's

> > > horrible. I know that, sadly, you haven't had any

> success so far in

> > getting

> > > any good pain relief. Does he believe that you should

> just suffer?

> > If this

> > > is so, you should consider seeing someone else. Or does

> he believe

> > that the

> > > replacements will take care of your pain and that you

> should be

> > able to live

> > > in great pain until then? This is making me angry! Your

> other

> > doctors didn't

> > > seem to be too helpful in the pain management department

> either.

> > What about

> > > a pain specialist?

> > >

> > > Sorry.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: [ ] shoulder...

> > >

> > >

> > > > Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going

> to give me

> > a shot in

> > > > my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about

> combination

> > > medication

> > > > (I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he

> says the

> > damage is

> > > > done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I

> don't drive

> > or much

> > > else

> > > > and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

> > > > Temple

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks Kathy-

I never thought of asking my PCP...Duh!! I guess that is part of the

reason I come here. 100 brains are better than one. Hope you don't

mind me picking your brains.

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > I hope the shot (cortisone, I assume) works, but I would

> > still want

> > > to know

> > > > exactly what the problem is with your shoulder.

> > Especially since

> > > you have

> > > > such degeneration in your knees and hips already, I

> > think having

> > > your

> > > > shoulder checked out would be a good idea.

> > > >

> > > > The rest of what you said is fairly disturbing. What

> > combination of

> > > meds

> > > > were you discussing? It's not as if you shouldn't be

> > concerned

> > > about FUTURE

> > > > damage. Now, if your rheumatologist is confident that

> > the Enbrel is

> > > holding

> > > > the destruction in check, that's a fine assumption as

> > long as he is

> > > > monitoring the progression carefully and you seem to be

> > stable.

> > > What sort of

> > > > x-rays or MRIs or scans of your bones have you had and

> > when? What I

> > > really

> > > > want to know is from the time you were diagnosed with RA

> > until you

> > > started

> > > > Enbrel and up through now what has been done to document

> > your

> > > status (hands,

> > > > feet, knees, shoulders, hips)?

> > > >

> > > > Please refresh my memory about the different pain meds

> > you have

> > > tried and

> > > > why your rheumatologist is so opposed to prescribing

> > them for you.

> > > That's

> > > > horrible. I know that, sadly, you haven't had any

> > success so far in

> > > getting

> > > > any good pain relief. Does he believe that you should

> > just suffer?

> > > If this

> > > > is so, you should consider seeing someone else. Or does

> > he believe

> > > that the

> > > > replacements will take care of your pain and that you

> > should be

> > > able to live

> > > > in great pain until then? This is making me angry! Your

> > other

> > > doctors didn't

> > > > seem to be too helpful in the pain management department

> > either.

> > > What about

> > > > a pain specialist?

> > > >

> > > > Sorry.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Re: [ ] shoulder...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Talked to my rheumetologist yesterday and he is going

> > to give me

> > > a shot in

> > > > > my shoulder today- pray it works. Also talked about

> > combination

> > > > medication

> > > > > (I am on enbrel) and he kind of ignored it because he

> > says the

> > > damage is

> > > > > done. Pain meds-a rousing no again. Even though I

> > don't drive

> > > or much

> > > > else

> > > > > and am having the first replacement on 9/14.

> > > > > Temple

> > >

> > >

> > >

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