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In a message dated 9/5/2002 3:30:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

lisa@... writes:

> He only wishes to eat his sandwich

Let him! Maverick has lots of eating issues.... lots of oral issues. When

he was younger, we would give him goats milk with Instant Breakfast (but he

would only drink vanilla).......to supplement. Bit by bit he has learned to

eat other foods, but his diet is still different from ours in alot of ways.

He will frequently have a cup of baked beans, a tub of LEMON yogurt, peanut

butter and jelly sandwhich or tortilla if we are having something that

doesn't appeal to him. He has for YEARS had only a bowl of applesauce and

toast with cream cheese on it for breakfast.

I think if you offer a variety and see what he likes....then let him stick

with that vegimite sandwich....(do people really LIKE that??????).... for as

long as he needs. Continue offering what you are eating but don't make an

issue of it.

Maverick has gradually addes much to his diet and now I can know that he will

have what he needs...if a bit repititious.

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Maybe BJ is going through that picky stage. I think he is at that age. Kids

go through this every once in a while like once a year. One day their eatting

and the next they don't like anything or just like to eat one thing all the

time. It will probably pass. He is eatting the sandwhich ,correct? Don't

worry too much if he is eatting something. Maybe you could tell him he can

get the sandwhich after he eats just a taste of each thing on his plate. Let

him know if he wants to grow big and strong and have big muscles, than he has

to eat at least a taste of each thing on his plate. And if you do get him to

take a taste of something after you tell him this ,tell him " good job let me

feel those big muscles. " Then say, " I know,you are 4 years old so you only

have to take four bites. " and after each bite praise him and maybe give him a

hug.Hope this help some.

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What is vegimite? My son loves eggo blueberry waffles. He has to eat that

thing dry straight out of the toaster everday. He even asks for it at night

sometimes. I wonder when he gets older if he will be able to stand blueberry

eggo waffles. I know I can't eat certain things that i use to eat often when

i was a kid. Just tired of it. My son won't eat any other waffle but

blueberry eggo. He can taste the difference.

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My parents lived in Australia for a couple of years, when they came home they

brought little packets of vegimite for all of us. My kids took one bite of a

sandwich with it on and just looked at me like - you expect us to eat this???

I'm wondering if it's different if you grow up with it. My parents said the

peanut butter in Australia is really different than what we have here - soooo -

I think australian kids like vegimite, and our kids like (or don't as the case

is in my family) peanut butter. My kids are nutella fans :) Have you tried

that Leis???

Deevee7320@... wrote:What is vegimite? My son loves eggo blueberry waffles.

He has to eat that

thing dry straight out of the toaster everday. He even asks for it at night

sometimes. I wonder when he gets older if he will be able to stand blueberry

eggo waffles. I know I can't eat certain things that i use to eat often when

i was a kid. Just tired of it. My son won't eat any other waffle but

blueberry eggo. He can taste the difference.

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In a message dated 9/5/2002 6:31:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lisa@... writes:

<< He

wants to eat when he gets home from school-we have even tried not giving

him anything when he gets home, but he still wont eat-even then-and I

know he is hungry because he hasn't eaten for over 6 hours. >>

Leis,

Maybe it's the age.(sigh). Liam eats a balanced but limited diet. He's great

with fruits & vegetables, but when it comes to protein he's very limited.

He'll eat cheese, eggs, Calamari and shrimp (ok. I tell him it's calamari).

Dinner is a battle here too. Tonight I gave in and ordered take out so he

could have Calamari, but he'd eat a grilled cheese sandwich everynight if I

let him.

He won't eat pasta, rice , meat or cooked vegetables, although he'll eat them

raw. It drives me up a wall, but my younger brother did this to my parents,

too. He would go on tangents and eat just hot dogs or fried eggs for months

on end. Breakfast is Liam's best meal, because he'll eat most normal

breakfast fare.

Kathy, Liam's mom(4 1/2)

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With three, I have had all sorts of picky phases, but none lasted very

long. IMHO, not making meals a power struggle is VERY important to lifelong

good eating habits, so I would provide his desired sandwich (at least he's

eating something healthy) and try to not stress out over it (not easy, I

know :-) My rule is, I will give free choice (within reason) for breakfast

(unless I am cooking a big weekend breakfast), a couple choices for lunch

(often leftovers), then everyone eats the dinner I cook, with no " specials " .

That way, they are encouraged to eat what the family is eating, yet I know

that if they choose to boycot dinner, they will be eating a breakfast of

their choice in the morning. If I know someone has a real problem with

something (like my oldest won't eat cooked carrots, but will chomp them down

raw, so I serve hers raw; one one will not eat asparagus, so I cook two

veggies on asparagus days so that I'm sure she has some), I give small

servings of the " offensive " food and ask for a bite of two, but don't force

them to eat.

That said, I am finding that my oldest occasionally is now " too busy " to

eat, and will say she's finished with lots of food left on her plate (even

though I know she's hungery). I am having to discover creative ways to find

out if she's really full, or just wanting to be excused. I don't want to

become my parents and force everyone to " join the clean plate club " at each

meal, yet I don't want her to waste food...... it's a balance!

If I have a child on a picky streak, I try and give them their desired

food(s) FIRST (as long as it's not a sweet treat!), rather than having them

say " I don't want that " to the food on their plate, then replacing it with

what they want.....to me, that's giving in and setting up " If I don't like

what I'm given, mom will fix me something else " .

Good luck,

, mom to 3 pretty good eaters!

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In a message dated 9/5/2002 5:52:41 PM Central Daylight Time,

kldoll@... writes:

> As for eating one food at a time... Jordan may get this from me... I do the

> same thing with most of my food... It cracks up my co-workers whenever we

> go

> out for lunch... I start with one thing and work my way around the plate...

> I also don't like my food touching either... If it does, then I don't eat

> that section... I usually end up with strips of mixed food on my plate...

This is too funny. I do the same thing. Dean thinks I'm crazy, leaving the

edges to all my food. Who really wants green beans in their mac and cheese?

LOL.

Ok, what IS a vegemite sandwich? I only remember it from the old Men at Work

song. LOL

Beth

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Now in our case, Alyssa loves pickles. We have to ration them here. At Mickey

D's (her favorite place to eat) we ask for a plain hamburger with extra

pickles. She will eat all the pickles first and ask for more. Only when you

tell her no more,she'll eat the rest of her happy meal. Sue ( who is loving

Alyssa's new school) & Alyssa 5, DS (who is doing well in her new school)

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has never gone through a stage where he didn't want to eat. Neither

have I :) He is in a stage (about a year now) where he will only eat a sausage

muffin before school. Sometimes he has one for dinner, too--but I am trying to

limit the second one because of the high fat content. I do use paper towels to

soak up the grease before serving it to him. He also loves hamburgers.

He is also in a stage where he wants grapes. I bought over 2 lbs last night and

he ate every single one.

We've limited chocolate milk to lunch at school only. He also can sit down with

a box of catdog crackers and finish them off. Sometimes I'm really good and

will put some in a zip lock bag and he doesn't eat as much.

Does anyone elses child eat one food item on the plate before moving to the

next? will have his hamburger, then corn, the french fries and last,

pudding or whatever. If we have mashed potatoes, he will eat them all, then ask

for more and not touch the rest of the food on his plate until he's had his

second serving of mashed potatoes.

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In a message dated 9/5/02 9:58:16 AM Central Daylight Time, Michdock@...

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> He will frequently have a cup of baked beans, a tub of LEMON yogurt, peanut

> butter and jelly sandwhich or tortilla if we are having something that

> doesn't appeal to him. He has for YEARS had only a bowl of applesauce and

> toast with cream cheese on it for breakfast.

> I think if you offer a variety and see what he likes....then let him stick

> with that vegimite sandwich....(do people really LIKE that??????).... for

> as

>

The first few years of his life ate ice cream for breakfast

every day. Then eventually I got him to eating soup. He is now 37 years old

and he has 1/2 can of 's soup every day for breakfast. If he has

something else occasionally, then he has the soup later. He has a glass of

milk, a small glass of juice, his soup, a banana and a cup of coffee. I get

tired of fixing the same thing but he doesn't get tired of eating it.

Otherwise he'll eat about anything, not as picky as I am.

I have probably prepared more 's soup than anyone else in the

world ( my husband and daughter ate tons of it too) and I hardly ever eat it.

Jessie

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RE: Dinner help If I forget to ask for no pickles, these must also

be picked off before he will eat the burger...

Oh, there is nothing like driving down the road and having a pickle thrown on

the windshield! Or finding dried pickles between the seats. knows I

love the pickles, but he continues to dispose of them his way.

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,

will only eat one food item at a time and sometimes only one on a

plate at a time. Like if shes having 2 hot dogs, you can only put one on a

plate at a time and since she doesnt eat bread, you couldnt even think of

putting a hot dog with bread or something similiar.

My son, non ds is very picky - hes 8 and only eats bread products

mostly. My dh ralph who is the household cook hates to cook for us because

no one eats one meal here and im a psuedo vegetarian, so my house is like

Ralph's Dinner on a regualr basis! LOL!

~ Mom to 12 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 8 NY

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Vegemite is a concentrated yeast spread, and has lots of vitamin B.

Smears very well onto the tele and childeren too - if the jar has a big

enough opeing for a childs hand and it is left on the kitchen bench and

mummy is in bed :) It is black and reasonably smelly. It used to be

made of beer hops :) Us Aussies used to own it, but now the US owns

vegemite-cracks me up, as I have not met an American that likes it yet

:) hehehe. it is nice on toast.

Deevee7320@... wrote:

> What is vegimite? My son loves eggo blueberry waffles. He has to eat

> that thing dry straight out of the toaster everday. He even asks for

> it at night sometimes. I wonder when he gets older if he will be able

> to stand blueberry eggo waffles. I know I can't eat certain things

> that i use to eat often when i was a kid. Just tired of it. My son

> won't eat any other waffle but blueberry eggo. He can taste the

> difference.

--

Leis

Aussie mum to 4.5 DS and Natasha 7 months nda

In 100 years time it won't matter what sort of house I lived in, what my income

was, or what kind of car I drove; but the world may be a different place because

I was there to help in the life of a child.

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Sounds like Nicky. He also eats waffles every morning - except they have to

be Aunt Jemima - buttermilk or regular - square - NOT round. <sigh>

He would also eat cheeseburgers 24/7 if he had his way. He will eat a

pretty well balanced diet though, does well with fruits and veggies that he

has grown up with at our dinner table. As he gets older, I am seeing more

of a willingness to try different things if they are in familiar surrounds,

like the dinner table or school cafeteria.

His older brother wasn't much different, though, when he was growing up.

a

Mom of 3,

including Nicky, 11, DS, Hirschsprungs, preteen syndrome

grandma of Zoe, 5, K, and Christian, almost 3!, preschool

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> What is vegimite? My son loves eggo blueberry waffles. He has to eat that

> thing dry straight out of the toaster everday.

>

>

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> Does anyone elses child eat one food item on the plate before moving to

the next? will have his hamburger, then corn, the french fries and

last, pudding or whatever. If we have mashed potatoes, he will eat them

all, then ask for more and not touch the rest of the food on his plate until

he's had his second serving of mashed potatoes.

>

>

Yup, I've got 2 of them here. Nicky loves cheeseburgers and fries, and

will never touch a fry before that cheeseburger is gone. Does the same

thing most meals, no matter what is served.

My older son is 20, and still does that - he'll eat his least favorite

thing first, and save best for last.

a

Mom of 3,

including Nicky, 11, DS, Hirschsprungs, preteen syndrome

grandma of Zoe, 5, K, and Christian, almost 3!, preschool

>

>

>

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Hmmmm, must be something in that extra 21st gene........

When Nicky orders his food, (or if heaven forbid, I try to order for him) he

will " emphasize " NO Pickles. Good thing I like them. We've also done the

picking apart of the burger. (never had one hit the windshield though,

LOL)

a

Mom of 3,

including Nicky, 11, DS, Hirschsprungs, preteen syndrome

grandma of Zoe, 5, K, and Christian, almost 3!, preschool

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> RE: Dinner help If I forget to ask for no pickles, these must

also be picked off before he will eat the burger...

>

> Oh, there is nothing like driving down the road and having a pickle

thrown on the windshield! Or finding dried pickles between the seats.

knows I love the pickles, but he continues to dispose of them his

way.

>

>

>

>

>

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Kids and food. I'll bet that has been a problem since cave-man days.

Can't you just hear the kid-- " I don't want any of that mammoth, it's hairy! "

" How about some nice (help me out here, what else did they have but it

doesn't matter)? " " No, that's yucky! " . And gee no pickles.!

And they survived to turn into----US. what a thought.

Jessie, mom of , age 37, the light of my life.

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> Hmmmm, must be something in that extra 21st gene........

> When Nicky orders his food, (or if heaven forbid, I try to order for him)

he

> will " emphasize " NO Pickles. Good thing I like them. We've also done

the

> picking apart of the burger. (never had one hit the windshield though,

> LOL)

I don't know..... will sit down and eat an entire lunch of pickles

if I'd let her..... doesn't matter, sweet or dill, store-bought or

homemade.... Pickles, pickles, pickles! I have to watch out when we go to

the salad buffet place because she will have her hands in the pickle tub,

helping herself!

, mom to 3 pickle lovers!

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> It is hard with BJ as he cant/won't tell us what i s yucky or not. One

> day it is yucky, but the next it isn't. ....

Sounds familiar!!!! We have found that often is very negative

when it comes to meals, and I don't know why. She communicates fairly well,

but when served her choice (that I THINK she made knowing what she asked

for), she will start yelling no, put her head down, cry, etc. We have tried

humor, taking the food away when she refuses, etc., but what finally worked

is simply ignoring her. It's like she had to complain for 5 minutes, and

then will forget? what the problem was (if any) and go ahead and eat. Does

anyone else have this problem? Even though she's telling us what she wants,

I still wonder if the problem is a communication issuse. It certainly could

be a control/power issue.

Example: , do you want oatmeal or cereal for breakfast?

I want cereal.

OK, do you want miniwheats or corn flakes (I know she hates

corn flakes)

Miniwheats.

How do you ask? (as I am pouring the cereal)

I want have miniwheats, please.

Great, I like how you said that. Here you are.

(Sounds pretty great to this point, huh? Now for the fun

part)

Look at bowl like it is a snake, push it away, start to cry,

saying " Not want miniwheats!! "

Continue to cry, yell NO!, push bowl away...... start to

suck thumb

In most cases, will eventually eat, but I am emotionally

drained, especially on school days!

I know she knows what miniwheats are, she could pick out the box from a 10

cereal box lineup :-) If I add a step and show her the box before I pour,

she will confirm that is what she wants (apparently). I have tried letting

her choose the color bowl (or plate, or cup), but that doesnt seem to make a

difference.

Anyone have a similar situation at their house?

, mom to (6), (4 DS) and (3)

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I cant even get this from BJ as he cant even say that. His main words

for foods are toast,bread and sandwich. He can say chippy ( cant all

kids ;) ) and ice cream. If you give him ice creamb he says no, but if

you give him his fav yoghurt he will eat it. I think he associates ice

cream with icy poles-you know those frozen water ice blocks.

--

Leis

Aussie mum to 4.5 DS and Natasha 7 months nda

In 100 years time it won't matter what sort of house I lived in, what my income

was, or what kind of car I drove; but the world may be a different place because

I was there to help in the life of a child.

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In a message dated 9/6/2002 11:49:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

<<

Sounds familiar!!!! We have found that often is very negative

when it comes to meals, and I don't know why. She communicates fairly well,

but when served her choice (that I THINK she made knowing what she asked

for), she will start yelling no, put her head down, cry, etc. We have tried

humor, taking the food away when she refuses, etc., but what finally worked

is simply ignoring her. It's like she had to complain for 5 minutes, and

then will forget? what the problem was (if any) and go ahead and eat. Does

anyone else have this problem? Even though she's telling us what she wants,

I still wonder if the problem is a communication issuse. It certainly could

be a control/power issue.

Example: , do you want oatmeal or cereal for breakfast?

I want cereal.

OK, do you want miniwheats or corn flakes (I know she hates

corn flakes)

Miniwheats.

How do you ask? (as I am pouring the cereal)

I want have miniwheats, please.

Great, I like how you said that. Here you are.

(Sounds pretty great to this point, huh? Now for the fun

part)

Look at bowl like it is a snake, push it away, start to cry,

saying " Not want miniwheats!! "

Continue to cry, yell NO!, push bowl away...... start to

suck thumb

In most cases, will eventually eat, but I am emotionally

drained, especially on school days!

I know she knows what miniwheats are, she could pick out the box from a 10

cereal box lineup :-) If I add a step and show her the box before I pour,

she will confirm that is what she wants (apparently). I have tried letting

her choose the color bowl (or plate, or cup), but that doesnt seem to make a

difference.

Anyone have a similar situation at their house?

, mom to (6), (4 DS) and (3) >>

oh, not so fond memories. We went through this for years. All I found was

ignoring the fireworks and moving on. I just didn't give it lots of

attention. of course would take it to the next level and the bowl would

magically find the floor. Then I would just say, oh, you are done eating and

move on.

Not a great solution but now at 13 he goes with food in phases. He eats cocoa

rice for breakfast and one flavor of yogurt. It's been awhile since major

fire works over food.

Karyn

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In a message dated 9/5/2002 11:14:18 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

<< Does the blaming of one's self ever go away? Am I silly to be

doubting myself so much?

Thanks again guys

--

Leis

>>

Leis,

It never goes away for me. I worked with kids with developmental disabilities

and behavioral issues for 12 years before came to us. I constantly

doubt myself. Esp. when he walks out the door for school in a slightly

mismatched outfit and his awful flipflops with his toes hanging over the

front.

Yikes,

Karyn

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