Re: comfrey issue

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K Thanks.

-----Original Message-----From: Bob & Deb [mailto:poplar@...]Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:40 PM Subject: Re: comfrey issue

The FDA site as well as Becky from soapnuts(fellow herbalist tried and trained ) that it is banned from INTERNAL use in supplements or otherwise and for use in topical applications we must label with this;

(taken from FDA site)

WARNING: External Use Only. Consuming this product can cause serious liver damage. This product contains Comfrey. contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids, which may cause serious illness or death. This product should not be taken orally, used as a suppository, or applied to broken skin. For further information contact the Food and Drug Administration: http//vm.cfsan.fda.gov

Like I told Collen...you wouldn't eat Noxema either but I also use that on a frequent basis-isn't it amazing?

Deb

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The FDA site as well as Becky from soapnuts(fellow herbalist tried and trained ) that it is banned from INTERNAL use in supplements or otherwise and for use in topical applications we must label with this;

(taken from FDA site)

WARNING: External Use Only. Consuming this product can cause serious liver damage. This product contains Comfrey. contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids, which may cause serious illness or death. This product should not be taken orally, used as a suppository, or applied to broken skin. For further information contact the Food and Drug Administration: http//vm.cfsan.fda.gov

Like I told Collen...you wouldn't eat Noxema either but I also use that on a frequent basis-isn't it amazing?

Deb

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I think the important thing here for you girls that use it is the

"do not use on broken skin" issue. I would definitely put that

in large print on labels. I think most people would not consume the

product - it's the skin issue that had made my eyes bug out when I

read it in the newspaper. I'm just curious (because I don't use it)

but is it THAT great of a product with a lot of people requesting it

that it's worth taking the chance of using it in your products?

M

Re: comfrey issue

The FDA site as well as Becky from soapnuts(fellow herbalist tried and trained ) that it is banned from INTERNAL use in supplements or otherwise and for use in topical applications we must label with this;

(taken from FDA site)

WARNING: External Use Only. Consuming this product can cause serious liver damage. This product contains Comfrey. contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids, which may cause serious illness or death. This product should not be taken orally, used as a suppository, or applied to broken skin. For further information contact the Food and Drug Administration: http//vm.cfsan.fda.gov

Like I told Collen...you wouldn't eat Noxema either but I also use that on a frequent basis-isn't it amazing?

Deb

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I have to say that Debs salve cleared up some poison ivy on a kid I baby sit... he is a poison ivy magnet in the summer and this is the quickest his parents have seen it clear up and you know... I only put it on him once!! Other times he has needed to be treated by the Dr. Deb... I may need another tin of it! LOL

Terri

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I have studied herbalism for over 15 years or better...getting into the soapmaking only in the last 4 years (seriously) and I must commend the healing results of this herb(I must also say here I only use the leaf, not root which is not as potent in Alointon which is not even mentioned in the FDA's article) in my salves and facial clay masks(Bert's bees also uses Comfrey extract in his as well ) and can not say enough about it from my own personal stand point as well as the sales and most important return sales of my products. The article the FDA wrote can be found at their Website and only stresses the internal ingestion of this herb. As we all know, media and well-doers can get a bit over zealous with reporting accurately at times. Which paper did you read it in? I can only label according to FDA standards as we all have to concerning INCI and warning issues on all of our products. Of course, I can't put "HEALING" comfrey salve on my labels but then the product speaks for itself and I do stress to only use it on minor skin abrasions and problems due to how quickly it does heal over from the outside in. I have personally had a wound on my face (a doorknob incident) go from a cut to a pink spot with no bruising in 3 days with my family as witnesses. No wonder the FDA investigated it. The old-timers (Indians included) called it "Knitbone" as they used it for mending broken limbs as well as internal bruising and they drank the tea as well-my grandma was one of these folks and I must say she lived to be 98 with no damage I knew of anyway. I think anything in excess is not a good thing. There are many herbs and chemicals which can not be ingested and if we realized the amounts of toxins we absorb through our skin in everyday household cleaners we would probably not clean our houses either Wow...that would be kind of a good reason wouldn't it...hmmmmm. I happen to make many of my own cleaning agents for this reason. If anyone would like the link to get to the FDA you can hop onover to soapnuts and then to labeling cosmetics....then when at this site you can scroll down and click on the FDA site itself and search comfrey.

have a green day!

Deb

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Hey Terri-tried to call you today before 12-no answer-honestly! Bob and I are heading down to Binghamton for a show so I will try once more before we go-we are only a few hours late with our plans today-power for the course!

Deb

-I want to call you too-maybe we should try osmosis?

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Murray wrote:"

I'm just curious (because I don't use it) but is it THAT great of a product

with a lot of people requesting it that it's worth taking the chance of

using it in your products?"

-I've got to reply to your question. My son had broken out

in an almost hive-like rash a couple weeks ago from something he may have

eaten. That was a Friday night. Saturday night I put some Tea

Tree Oil on him. The stuff really stinks, but it sort-of took some

of the rash away. Sunday I met Deb at the Caz show she was at and

got some of her Comfrey Salve. I put it on the rash that night, and

he was nearly rash-free when he woke up the next morning! The stuff

really works great! I am of course plugging Deb's product, but also

any comfrey product. I think it's got great "healing" qualities.

And my MIL just bought a tin from Deb because she saw what it did for her

grandson!

CJ

Country Meadow Creations

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I've never used any herbs or even grown them for that matter. So I know absolutely

nothing about them. I take that back. I have

chives in my flower garden because they're pretty. I love to go out and cut some fresh to

use in different recipes.

That stuff sounds wonderful. Do the drug companies ever

use it in their 'topical' products?

M

Re: comfrey issue

Murray wrote:" I'm just curious (because I don't use it) but is it THAT great of a product with a lot of people requesting it that it's worth taking the chance of using it in your products?" -I've got to reply to your question. My son had broken out in an almost hive-like rash a couple weeks ago from something he may have eaten. That was a Friday night. Saturday night I put some Tea Tree Oil on him. The stuff really stinks, but it sort-of took some of the rash away. Sunday I met Deb at the Caz show she was at and got some of her Comfrey Salve. I put it on the rash that night, and he was nearly rash-free when he woke up the next morning! The stuff really works great! I am of course plugging Deb's product, but also any comfrey product. I think it's got great "healing" qualities. And my MIL just bought a tin from Deb because she saw what it did for her grandson! CJ Country Meadow Creations

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When this issue came up I started some internet research on comfrey. Here's a pediatric wellness center that sells it..

http://www.kidswell.com/skin.htm

It's in a $94.00 skin kit! YIKES!

You would be amazed at the amount of places that sell a salve with comfrey in it.

Go to and type in comfry salve

Terri