Guest guest Posted December 5, 2001 Report Share Posted December 5, 2001 caution: long winded... Dear Drs., I sent a question yesterday regarding primary prevention of coronary artery disease which was driving me nuts. I have a person that I am working with who is 57, avid (and i mean avid) runner and healthful eater (plant based ). He has a genetic predisposition or true genetically elevated total cholesterol which is diet sensitive if he eats only raw vegetables and ice water. Due to his healthful lifestyle the HDLs are in a very good range. He has taken aspirin for years for coronary artery disease prevention ( anti-inflammatory effect) and for the blood thinning effect. Recently he was placed on tocotrienol ( a form of vitamin e with different biologic action than e, from rice bran oil ) which is a liver HMG-coA reductase inhibitor. The HMG-coA inhibition is the same action as Zocor and Lipitor, both prescription drugs. The tocotrienol brought down his total cholesterol and his LDLs. He went off the tocotrienol for a month and his levels went up and now his internist wants to place him on Zocor which I questioned. Zocor and Lipitor both have the potential side effect of rhabdomyolysis which sounds horrible. If this condition is due to the HMG-coA action then the tocotrienol, despite being from a natural substance, could potentially have the same effect, although there is no warning about that from the manufacturer. Anyways, my thinking was that if you took aspirin then you would worry less or not at all about the cholesterol if you were eating well and exercising. I wanted to know if this was true but I couldn't find the answer... Dr. Tim a commentator from abcnews did a bit on TV and in a chat room on anticholesterol lowering medications and his rationale as to why he chose to take it even though he has no known coronary artery disease and apparently no elevation in his cholesterol ( i could be wrong about that ). See link below. http://abcnews.go.com/onair/DailyNews/2020_000121_heartplaque_chat.html So, given my natural propensity to question prescription medication I went on to ask the question about whether or not aspirin could be used for primary prevention of cad in a person with elevated cholesterol , good lifestyle, and no known cad. This idea was postulated several years ago in the New England Journal of Medicine. Given the answers from the list serve and from a literature search I have come to the following conclusions : It is standard medical practice, with no known cad, to give both aspirin and cholesterol lowering medication if the cholesterol is elevated. Dr. 's idea is still not standard of care yet ( although interesting). Aspirin is given (baby asa) for both the anti-inflammatory effect ,which is part of the cad process, and also for the anti-platelet effect. Diet and exercise is essential. So is non-smoking. With known cad, give asa for mi prevention and treatment, as well as reduce risk factors ie cholesterol and every other thing possible ie diet, exercise, vitamins, herbs, enzymes, chelation ?, etc. What I want to know now, given the ideas from all of you is, what vitamins, herbs, enzymes, relaxation techniques etc. would you prescribe in addition to or as a known effective alternative to the asa or cholesterol lowering medication for either primary or secondary prevention and or treatment (reversal) of cad ? (be specific) Thanks. vty, sharron fuchs dc Responses: Dr. Freeman: Hi Sharon, My understanding of current medical practice is that aspirin cannot be used in lieu of a statin-type drug for lowering plasma cholesterol. Dr. Lumsden: I agree with Willard. It can be reversed but only by the hard way as is outlined. Damaged vessels and stasis can increase tendency to form clots and so the aspirin, enzymes, or even onions/garlic reduce the tendency to form them. It is a matter of lifestyle management. This is where DC's should really shine in health care at large. My sister had a mild MI last week at 47 years of age, high stress, poor diet, no aerobic exercise, mild to moderately overweight. In speaking with her last eve, I hope she gets serious about lifestyle factors as there just ain't no silver bullet. Steve Lumsden, D.C., D.A.C.B.I. Dr. Bertrand: No to aspirin as prevention of CAD. No to drugs for prevention of CAD. To reverse CAD only 1 safe and effective way: diet, exercise, and relaxation. Vitamins and herbs to stabilize damage, baby aspirin (or proteolytic enzymes) to block clotting factors, but will not reverse CAD. No magic bullets, that's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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