Addiction (was A Pavlovian Theory of Weight Control)

[Guest guest]

Oh I don't know if I'd go that far. I go " mmmmm " when I eat my giant

veggie salad everyday.

To switch to the things I don't like means I'd be eating heavy sauces,

lamb, white bread etc. -- stuff that isn't good for me. I'm sticking

to the things I enjoy eating.

To each her own!

Diane

> I'm addicted to all fruit, so I keep it out of my diet. I could eat

> it all day long. As soon as I get to Wild Oats, I head to the fruit

> section - but now I have to control that urge. The pear I ate last

> night was the first in months (it was my room-mates), and I only had

> that because of the intense cravings caused by the main meal.

>

> I grew up on a council estate in England in the 70's. The Labour

> Party and socialism were rampant, and my dad couldn't find work. We

> lived on child benefit payments, social security, and housing

benefit.

> The only way we could survive was for dad to buy food that nobody

> liked. The phrase " You can't have that, because you like it, and

> it'll be gone in 5 minutes " was heard again and again. Perhaps my

dad

> was wise?

>

> If CRONies stick to bland food that doesn't make you go mmmmmmm, I

> suspect they will be able to reduce calories easier and stay on the

> diet longer. Nobody here talks much of failure to stick to the

diet,

> or the cravings that we deal with, but I'm sure it happens. And,

who

> knows, maybe we'll reduce inflammation in the body also?

>

> Kat.

>

>

> > Maybe, but few if any of these discussions over this issue discuss

> addiction to food in relation to broccoli or oatmeal or berries.

[Guest guest]

It was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have stuck to

'bland'. I just meant that I will stick to foods that have little

emotional or immediate physical effect on me. Foods that do not

affect the rate at which the fork goes from plate to mouth. That way,

I can take or leave as much as I need, which is the only way I can

stick to this diet for the rest of my life.

For example, if I am feeling tired from overwork and lack of sleep,

and I eat a Chinese curry full of sugar and MSG, then I feel wide

awake and alert whilst I am eating it. I feel good! But the crash

comes afterwards, and then the addiction cycle begins. So I don't eat

take-away curries, I get steamed tofu and veggies on white rice, and

I could care less whether I eat or not and I just have half a plate.

I think someone else on a CR group does something similar. Was it

Dean? He just eats the same salad three times per day, so that food

is boring, easy to manage, and unemotional.

Kat.

> Oh I don't know if I'd go that far. I go " mmmmm " when I eat my giant

> veggie salad everyday.

[Guest guest]

It was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have stuck to

'bland'. I just meant that I will stick to foods that have little

emotional or immediate physical effect on me. Foods that do not

affect the rate at which the fork goes from plate to mouth. That way,

I can take or leave as much as I need, which is the only way I can

stick to this diet for the rest of my life.

For example, if I am feeling tired from overwork and lack of sleep,

and I eat a Chinese curry full of sugar and MSG, then I feel wide

awake and alert whilst I am eating it. I feel good! But the crash

comes afterwards, and then the addiction cycle begins. So I don't eat

take-away curries, I get steamed tofu and veggies on white rice, and

I could care less whether I eat or not and I just have half a plate.

I think someone else on a CR group does something similar. Was it

Dean? He just eats the same salad three times per day, so that food

is boring, easy to manage, and unemotional.

Kat.

> Oh I don't know if I'd go that far. I go " mmmmm " when I eat my giant

> veggie salad everyday.