Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hi Tony, I've experimented with diff ratios and I don't see a relationship within reasonable limits. I don't think I'm losing muscle now at a plateau. I am able to add muscle or maybe muscle strength, with added work but usually added weight. Hi protein does not drive out adipose. In fact, I would bet higher pro provides for adipose cell growth. Gotta get it's protein from somewhere, right? Logically, there should be a system that robs the adipose of aminos to build muscle cells, but I think the daily req't must be so small it isn't quantifiable. As well as the lypolysis of fat in adipose. That system may go out of balance at the point we think of as a plateau. Regards. [ ] Re: the plateau JW,What is your P/F/C ratio? Since you are losing muscle, maybe yourdietary protein is low, and since the adipose does not want to go,maybe your carbs are high.Tony--- In , "jwwright" <jwwright@e...>wrote:> My observation is that weight lifting, weight machines, and manuallabor build muscle and do NOT decrease weight although it may decreasethe amount of fat you have. Getting rid of that muscle weight is noteasy.> Consider whether you want to reduce intake to burn muscle protein orfat.> I'm not sure when I burn muscle if it all comes from peripheralmuscle as opposed to heart muscle. A quandary for me.> I chose to not weight lift and gradually lose weight by CR. I lostvisceral fat first, then muscle and adipose. But some of that adiposedoesn't want to leave - the plateau.> > Regards.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hi Tony, I've experimented with diff ratios and I don't see a relationship within reasonable limits. I don't think I'm losing muscle now at a plateau. I am able to add muscle or maybe muscle strength, with added work but usually added weight. Hi protein does not drive out adipose. In fact, I would bet higher pro provides for adipose cell growth. Gotta get it's protein from somewhere, right? Logically, there should be a system that robs the adipose of aminos to build muscle cells, but I think the daily req't must be so small it isn't quantifiable. As well as the lypolysis of fat in adipose. That system may go out of balance at the point we think of as a plateau. Regards. [ ] Re: the plateau JW,What is your P/F/C ratio? Since you are losing muscle, maybe yourdietary protein is low, and since the adipose does not want to go,maybe your carbs are high.Tony--- In , "jwwright" <jwwright@e...>wrote:> My observation is that weight lifting, weight machines, and manuallabor build muscle and do NOT decrease weight although it may decreasethe amount of fat you have. Getting rid of that muscle weight is noteasy.> Consider whether you want to reduce intake to burn muscle protein orfat.> I'm not sure when I burn muscle if it all comes from peripheralmuscle as opposed to heart muscle. A quandary for me.> I chose to not weight lift and gradually lose weight by CR. I lostvisceral fat first, then muscle and adipose. But some of that adiposedoesn't want to leave - the plateau.> > Regards.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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