Re: Re: Jerusalem Artichoke low carbo diet

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Right, it's those hard to get things that bug me.

And every time I try a low carbo diet, I end up migrating back to fiber. Beans, lentils, for Mg. and fiber. But more meat means to me less calories like 1300 - 1500 kcals, with no hunger. However, the last 2 days I've been > 50% C, and I haven't been hungry either so maybe I'm finding a middle of the road. Also atkins raises BP way to much, like 38/18.

I actually had one day <1000 kcals with no hunger. So I see how some CRONies can get by with less calories. I just can't get by without the fiber, and the metamucils don't work by themselves. Not a small problem.

But today, I sitting at 1338 kcals, 20/21/58 P/F/C, and if I do a ground sirloin patty, I'll still be like 1564, 23/27/50.

And 54 gms of fiber.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Jerusalem Artichoke

Hi Apricot:Thanks for the question on jerusalem artichokes. I don't know the answer, but your post has provoked me to rant(!)Does anyone find wording like that appended below, from your link, helpful? It is so typical of so many sources of information about foods, especially that from people 'qualified as' dieticians or nutritionists. What bugs me about it? Well for example many people would want to AVOID prolific sources of iron - males in particular - not eat more of them. Second, is anyone in an industrial country likely to be deficient in potassium? I don't think so. Third, my diet is loaded with vitamin C, and nowhere remotely close to being deficient in thiamine or niacin. Nor do I believe I need extra phosphorus or copper, and I don't have any symptoms that suggest my diet is deficient in fiber. So what benefit would it be to me to consume more calories from this product and merely overload me more with nutrients I am getting more than enough of already? Yet calling them an "excellent source of ............" seems to imply benefit.When I last checked my nutrient intake I did note that the two things I definitely would do well to get more of were zinc and calcium, and perhaps some extra magnesium and vitamin D would be helpful. Does this product offer any of these? They do not mention them.So who cares about the ingredients for which jerusalem artichokes are listed as 'excellent source of' in that write up? Eating more of them would do nothing that I know of to improve my diet. Are there other benefits? ORAC? Proven anti-cancer characteristics? Demonstrated preventative capacity against heart disease, diabetes or other common afflictions? Improved immune function? They do not mention any of these.So I find those kind of comments not helpful to me. It would have been somewhat more helpful if they had stated them in terms of nutrient content per hundred calories. (Or, even better, from my viewpoint, in terms of percent of RDA contained in 1700 calories!). But I suppose we will have to wait for another couple or so decades before these people wake up to a CRON-type reality. SIGH.: ^ )))Rodney. > Excellent source of iron and thiamin, and a good source of potassium, > phosphorus, copper, fiber, vitamin C, and niacin

[Guest guest]

Right, it's those hard to get things that bug me.

And every time I try a low carbo diet, I end up migrating back to fiber. Beans, lentils, for Mg. and fiber. But more meat means to me less calories like 1300 - 1500 kcals, with no hunger. However, the last 2 days I've been > 50% C, and I haven't been hungry either so maybe I'm finding a middle of the road. Also atkins raises BP way to much, like 38/18.

I actually had one day <1000 kcals with no hunger. So I see how some CRONies can get by with less calories. I just can't get by without the fiber, and the metamucils don't work by themselves. Not a small problem.

But today, I sitting at 1338 kcals, 20/21/58 P/F/C, and if I do a ground sirloin patty, I'll still be like 1564, 23/27/50.

And 54 gms of fiber.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Jerusalem Artichoke

Hi Apricot:Thanks for the question on jerusalem artichokes. I don't know the answer, but your post has provoked me to rant(!)Does anyone find wording like that appended below, from your link, helpful? It is so typical of so many sources of information about foods, especially that from people 'qualified as' dieticians or nutritionists. What bugs me about it? Well for example many people would want to AVOID prolific sources of iron - males in particular - not eat more of them. Second, is anyone in an industrial country likely to be deficient in potassium? I don't think so. Third, my diet is loaded with vitamin C, and nowhere remotely close to being deficient in thiamine or niacin. Nor do I believe I need extra phosphorus or copper, and I don't have any symptoms that suggest my diet is deficient in fiber. So what benefit would it be to me to consume more calories from this product and merely overload me more with nutrients I am getting more than enough of already? Yet calling them an "excellent source of ............" seems to imply benefit.When I last checked my nutrient intake I did note that the two things I definitely would do well to get more of were zinc and calcium, and perhaps some extra magnesium and vitamin D would be helpful. Does this product offer any of these? They do not mention them.So who cares about the ingredients for which jerusalem artichokes are listed as 'excellent source of' in that write up? Eating more of them would do nothing that I know of to improve my diet. Are there other benefits? ORAC? Proven anti-cancer characteristics? Demonstrated preventative capacity against heart disease, diabetes or other common afflictions? Improved immune function? They do not mention any of these.So I find those kind of comments not helpful to me. It would have been somewhat more helpful if they had stated them in terms of nutrient content per hundred calories. (Or, even better, from my viewpoint, in terms of percent of RDA contained in 1700 calories!). But I suppose we will have to wait for another couple or so decades before these people wake up to a CRON-type reality. SIGH.: ^ )))Rodney. > Excellent source of iron and thiamin, and a good source of potassium, > phosphorus, copper, fiber, vitamin C, and niacin