Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 The thought occurs that Francios (Francois ) de La Rochefoucauld was not informed of the CR mechanism. We often have comments on QOL, but searching to HAVE an opportunity for QOL at 100 yo is ironic. The love of food expressed in many works, even the bible, causes many to wonder why they should live a few short years longer. "You'll live 2 years longer but it's the last 2 yrs." allows us any undisciplined thing. But I can assure you, that idea diminishes as you get older and only HAVE a few short years left. It is my belief, if I could have managed to eat just a few calories more than required for my activities all my life I would be younger in biological age compared to others. The problem is managing to those few calories ( perhaps <20 / day). Regards. [ ] Re: A Pavlovian Theory of Weight Control My pleasure. And if you think about it, it's actually very close tothe diet that asian fisherman followed for most of their history:fish, rice, veggies, and the occasional meat. And I think variouscancer victims follow a similar diet when trying to get well.On another group (PALEOFOOD - excellent data), there are other peoplefollowing the bland approach to food. So it's not that uncommon,particularly in those who yo-yo and have food sensitivities.I hope you reach your ideal weight.I like this quote:"To safeguard one's health at the cost of too strict a diet is atiresome illness indeed". -Francios de La RochefoucauldKat.> Katrina,> Thanks for reifying this for me. I'm a binger/yo-yo type. With only15 lbs> to go to my ideal BW, this might do the trick...finally.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 The thought occurs that Francios (Francois ) de La Rochefoucauld was not informed of the CR mechanism. We often have comments on QOL, but searching to HAVE an opportunity for QOL at 100 yo is ironic. The love of food expressed in many works, even the bible, causes many to wonder why they should live a few short years longer. "You'll live 2 years longer but it's the last 2 yrs." allows us any undisciplined thing. But I can assure you, that idea diminishes as you get older and only HAVE a few short years left. It is my belief, if I could have managed to eat just a few calories more than required for my activities all my life I would be younger in biological age compared to others. The problem is managing to those few calories ( perhaps <20 / day). Regards. [ ] Re: A Pavlovian Theory of Weight Control My pleasure. And if you think about it, it's actually very close tothe diet that asian fisherman followed for most of their history:fish, rice, veggies, and the occasional meat. And I think variouscancer victims follow a similar diet when trying to get well.On another group (PALEOFOOD - excellent data), there are other peoplefollowing the bland approach to food. So it's not that uncommon,particularly in those who yo-yo and have food sensitivities.I hope you reach your ideal weight.I like this quote:"To safeguard one's health at the cost of too strict a diet is atiresome illness indeed". -Francios de La RochefoucauldKat.> Katrina,> Thanks for reifying this for me. I'm a binger/yo-yo type. With only15 lbs> to go to my ideal BW, this might do the trick...finally.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 AS I struggle to start ON, I think about these issues. I am leaning toward one day a week where I eat what I want. Not that I intend to go crazy and eat a whole cake and 1/2 gallon of ice cream (in my younger days I was known to do this), but if I want a normal (normal in terms of portion size) piece of cheesecake on my free day, I will eat it. I am also considering fasting one day a week. Fasting has always been easy for me and we have all seen the studies that indicate that this is one way to achieve CR. A feast and a fast day together might be a good tool for me. I had an interesting snack yesterday. I took a yogurt (yes it had sugar) and put a slit in the top of the plastic cup and stuck in a popsicle stick and froze it. It was an interesting desert, a little challenging to eat which is good in itself. Positive Dennis jwwright wrote: The thought occurs that Francios (Francois ) de La Rochefoucauld was not informed of the CR mechanism. We often have comments on QOL, but searching to HAVE an opportunity for QOL at 100 yo is ironic. The love of food expressed in many works, even the bible, causes many to wonder why they should live a few short years longer. "You'll live 2 years longer but it's the last 2 yrs." allows us any undisciplined thing. But I can assure you, that idea diminishes as you get older and only HAVE a few short years left. It is my belief, if I could have managed to eat just a few calories more than required for my activities all my life I would be younger in biological age compared to others. The problem is managing to those few calories ( perhaps <20 / day). Regards. [ ] Re: A Pavlovian Theory of Weight Control My pleasure. And if you think about it, it's actually very close to the diet that asian fisherman followed for most of their history: fish, rice, veggies, and the occasional meat. And I think various cancer victims follow a similar diet when trying to get well. On another group (PALEOFOOD - excellent data), there are other people following the bland approach to food. So it's not that uncommon, particularly in those who yo-yo and have food sensitivities. I hope you reach your ideal weight. I like this quote: "To safeguard one's health at the cost of too strict a diet is a tiresome illness indeed". -Francios de La Rochefoucauld Kat. > Katrina, > Thanks for reifying this for me. I'm a binger/yo-yo type. With only 15 lbs > to go to my ideal BW, this might do the trick...finally. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 AS I struggle to start ON, I think about these issues. I am leaning toward one day a week where I eat what I want. Not that I intend to go crazy and eat a whole cake and 1/2 gallon of ice cream (in my younger days I was known to do this), but if I want a normal (normal in terms of portion size) piece of cheesecake on my free day, I will eat it. I am also considering fasting one day a week. Fasting has always been easy for me and we have all seen the studies that indicate that this is one way to achieve CR. A feast and a fast day together might be a good tool for me. I had an interesting snack yesterday. I took a yogurt (yes it had sugar) and put a slit in the top of the plastic cup and stuck in a popsicle stick and froze it. It was an interesting desert, a little challenging to eat which is good in itself. Positive Dennis jwwright wrote: The thought occurs that Francios (Francois ) de La Rochefoucauld was not informed of the CR mechanism. We often have comments on QOL, but searching to HAVE an opportunity for QOL at 100 yo is ironic. The love of food expressed in many works, even the bible, causes many to wonder why they should live a few short years longer. "You'll live 2 years longer but it's the last 2 yrs." allows us any undisciplined thing. But I can assure you, that idea diminishes as you get older and only HAVE a few short years left. It is my belief, if I could have managed to eat just a few calories more than required for my activities all my life I would be younger in biological age compared to others. The problem is managing to those few calories ( perhaps <20 / day). Regards. [ ] Re: A Pavlovian Theory of Weight Control My pleasure. And if you think about it, it's actually very close to the diet that asian fisherman followed for most of their history: fish, rice, veggies, and the occasional meat. And I think various cancer victims follow a similar diet when trying to get well. On another group (PALEOFOOD - excellent data), there are other people following the bland approach to food. So it's not that uncommon, particularly in those who yo-yo and have food sensitivities. I hope you reach your ideal weight. I like this quote: "To safeguard one's health at the cost of too strict a diet is a tiresome illness indeed". -Francios de La Rochefoucauld Kat. > Katrina, > Thanks for reifying this for me. I'm a binger/yo-yo type. With only 15 lbs > to go to my ideal BW, this might do the trick...finally. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Hi Dennis, I eat what I want most days, it's just I have selected to eat things I'm gonna like. I'll eat cheesecake, and I'll put it in my spreadsheet so I see how many calories it is and adjust. I may eat pecan pie, or apple pie, or real ice cream. ly, I can't eat a 1/2 gall of ice cream, but I don't try to fool myself eating fake stuff. I'm creative, eg, I made a tomato burger. Got some large tomatoes sliced them 1/2 inch thick, and sandwiched a chopped sirloin patty (3 oz), in there. Add to that 8 oz of salad greens. At supper, I'll have 6 oz of lima bean, or split pea soup and more salad. I like lima beans. Breakfast was 1 oz of corn meal microed, w/ 8 oz ffmilk, and 10 oz of fruit. I like corn meal too. So I see no hardship the way I do it. Believe me if it were, I wouldn't do it. I haven't put something in my gut, I didn't like, since the colonoscopy. Notice no bread - bread hates me. I met an old lady (about 85yo) at walmart buying pecan clusters of 80 kcals. She says she eats one every day, and so far they haven't hurt her. Regards. Re: [ ] Re: QOL AS I struggle to start ON, I think about these issues. I am leaning toward one day a week where I eat what I want. Not that I intend to go crazy and eat a whole cake and 1/2 gallon of ice cream (in my younger days I was known to do this), but if I want a normal (normal in terms of portion size) piece of cheesecake on my free day, I will eat it. I am also considering fasting one day a week. Fasting has always been easy for me and we have all seen the studies that indicate that this is one way to achieve CR. A feast and a fast day together might be a good tool for me. I had an interesting snack yesterday. I took a yogurt (yes it had sugar) and put a slit in the top of the plastic cup and stuck in a popsicle stick and froze it. It was an interesting desert, a little challenging to eat which is good in itself. Positive Dennisjwwright wrote: The thought occurs that Francios (Francois ) de La Rochefoucauld was not informed of the CR mechanism. We often have comments on QOL, but searching to HAVE an opportunity for QOL at 100 yo is ironic. The love of food expressed in many works, even the bible, causes many to wonder why they should live a few short years longer. "You'll live 2 years longer but it's the last 2 yrs." allows us any undisciplined thing. But I can assure you, that idea diminishes as you get older and only HAVE a few short years left. It is my belief, if I could have managed to eat just a few calories more than required for my activities all my life I would be younger in biological age compared to others. The problem is managing to those few calories ( perhaps <20 / day). Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Hi Dennis, I eat what I want most days, it's just I have selected to eat things I'm gonna like. I'll eat cheesecake, and I'll put it in my spreadsheet so I see how many calories it is and adjust. I may eat pecan pie, or apple pie, or real ice cream. ly, I can't eat a 1/2 gall of ice cream, but I don't try to fool myself eating fake stuff. I'm creative, eg, I made a tomato burger. Got some large tomatoes sliced them 1/2 inch thick, and sandwiched a chopped sirloin patty (3 oz), in there. Add to that 8 oz of salad greens. At supper, I'll have 6 oz of lima bean, or split pea soup and more salad. I like lima beans. Breakfast was 1 oz of corn meal microed, w/ 8 oz ffmilk, and 10 oz of fruit. I like corn meal too. So I see no hardship the way I do it. Believe me if it were, I wouldn't do it. I haven't put something in my gut, I didn't like, since the colonoscopy. Notice no bread - bread hates me. I met an old lady (about 85yo) at walmart buying pecan clusters of 80 kcals. She says she eats one every day, and so far they haven't hurt her. Regards. Re: [ ] Re: QOL AS I struggle to start ON, I think about these issues. I am leaning toward one day a week where I eat what I want. Not that I intend to go crazy and eat a whole cake and 1/2 gallon of ice cream (in my younger days I was known to do this), but if I want a normal (normal in terms of portion size) piece of cheesecake on my free day, I will eat it. I am also considering fasting one day a week. Fasting has always been easy for me and we have all seen the studies that indicate that this is one way to achieve CR. A feast and a fast day together might be a good tool for me. I had an interesting snack yesterday. I took a yogurt (yes it had sugar) and put a slit in the top of the plastic cup and stuck in a popsicle stick and froze it. It was an interesting desert, a little challenging to eat which is good in itself. Positive Dennisjwwright wrote: The thought occurs that Francios (Francois ) de La Rochefoucauld was not informed of the CR mechanism. We often have comments on QOL, but searching to HAVE an opportunity for QOL at 100 yo is ironic. The love of food expressed in many works, even the bible, causes many to wonder why they should live a few short years longer. "You'll live 2 years longer but it's the last 2 yrs." allows us any undisciplined thing. But I can assure you, that idea diminishes as you get older and only HAVE a few short years left. It is my belief, if I could have managed to eat just a few calories more than required for my activities all my life I would be younger in biological age compared to others. The problem is managing to those few calories ( perhaps <20 / day). Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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