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Hi Bobert:

I am afraid I can't help you regarding organic, defatted, sunflower

seed meal. But your post raises for me a different issue which is

why would you want to make things so difficult for yourself by trying

to be a vegan? Why not take the much easier - perhaps safer - route

of eating some fish?

If your reasoning is that fish are animals and it is therefore

unethical to eat them let me ask you what it is you think fish eat?

In the overwhelming majority of cases they eat other fish. They do

not seem to have much in the way of ethical qualms themselves about

eating each other, so why would you feel you should?

It is a bit like the complaints some people have that the spaniards

stole so much gold from the incas. The incas had stolen most of

what they had from other tribes in previous centuries ...........

and had to kill them to get it.

But we each have to make our own decisions about these things. And,

naturally, we are all entitled to.

Rodney.

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I have been spending a lot of time researching CRON solutions for

> vegans and have hit a brick wall. This is because of the difficulty

> of obtaining enough Omega-3 from vegan sources. Flax seed, hemp,

> walnuts, pumpkin seeds, etc. are all supposed to have ALA, which is

a

> precursor form of Omega-3. Unfortunately, the conversion ratio of

ALA

> into DHA and/or EPA is less than 5%, and as low as 1% according to

> some studies.

>

> As our brains are 45% DHA that seems to be a problem. Of course,

that

> is not the only need that we have for DHA and EPA.

>

> The conversion ratio may be so low because the typical diet is so

high

> in Omega-6 fatty acids and an improper ratio of 3-6-9 Omega acids

may

> prevent ALA from converting very efficently into DHA or EPA.

>

> My proposed solution is to use organic defatted sunflower seed meal

> for protein, supplemented with Lysine and Methionine from other

> sources. Using defatted sunflower seed meal would prevent me from

> getting an overload of Omega-6 and would allow me to more accurately

> control the 3-6-9 ratio to promote optimum conversion of ALA into

DHA

> and EPA.

>

> The problem is that I cannot seem to find a source for organic

> defatted sunflower seed meal.

>

> Can anyone shed some light on my proposed solution? Does anyone

know

> where I might obtain organic defatted sunflower seed meal? Does

> anyone have a vegan solution that they think solves the Omega-3

> problem? I know about fish oil etc. I eat fish now but want to go

> back to a vegan diet.

>

> I cannot believe that a chicken can convert flax to DHA and EPA and

a

> human cannot. It is just going to require some nutrition

engineering,

> IMHO.

>

> bobert

>

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Hi Bobert:

I am afraid I can't help you regarding organic, defatted, sunflower

seed meal. But your post raises for me a different issue which is

why would you want to make things so difficult for yourself by trying

to be a vegan? Why not take the much easier - perhaps safer - route

of eating some fish?

If your reasoning is that fish are animals and it is therefore

unethical to eat them let me ask you what it is you think fish eat?

In the overwhelming majority of cases they eat other fish. They do

not seem to have much in the way of ethical qualms themselves about

eating each other, so why would you feel you should?

It is a bit like the complaints some people have that the spaniards

stole so much gold from the incas. The incas had stolen most of

what they had from other tribes in previous centuries ...........

and had to kill them to get it.

But we each have to make our own decisions about these things. And,

naturally, we are all entitled to.

Rodney.

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I have been spending a lot of time researching CRON solutions for

> vegans and have hit a brick wall. This is because of the difficulty

> of obtaining enough Omega-3 from vegan sources. Flax seed, hemp,

> walnuts, pumpkin seeds, etc. are all supposed to have ALA, which is

a

> precursor form of Omega-3. Unfortunately, the conversion ratio of

ALA

> into DHA and/or EPA is less than 5%, and as low as 1% according to

> some studies.

>

> As our brains are 45% DHA that seems to be a problem. Of course,

that

> is not the only need that we have for DHA and EPA.

>

> The conversion ratio may be so low because the typical diet is so

high

> in Omega-6 fatty acids and an improper ratio of 3-6-9 Omega acids

may

> prevent ALA from converting very efficently into DHA or EPA.

>

> My proposed solution is to use organic defatted sunflower seed meal

> for protein, supplemented with Lysine and Methionine from other

> sources. Using defatted sunflower seed meal would prevent me from

> getting an overload of Omega-6 and would allow me to more accurately

> control the 3-6-9 ratio to promote optimum conversion of ALA into

DHA

> and EPA.

>

> The problem is that I cannot seem to find a source for organic

> defatted sunflower seed meal.

>

> Can anyone shed some light on my proposed solution? Does anyone

know

> where I might obtain organic defatted sunflower seed meal? Does

> anyone have a vegan solution that they think solves the Omega-3

> problem? I know about fish oil etc. I eat fish now but want to go

> back to a vegan diet.

>

> I cannot believe that a chicken can convert flax to DHA and EPA and

a

> human cannot. It is just going to require some nutrition

engineering,

> IMHO.

>

> bobert

>

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